@Jo T Jack was trying to write a nice comment, so why do people like you just come and say random things that do not correspond with the discussion at all?
Equally it is a tremendous pity that Bach failed in his attempt to meet Handel. What could have been the musical result of the two (of four) musical genius’ having time together discussing their compositions.
@@plebiu Agreed. He also met Georg Böhm and possibly Jan Reincken. A shame he never met Handel or Vivaldi. We know he corresponded with François Coupérin, but his letters sadly do not survive.
What a joy! Vivaldi, Bach, and such a wonderful organ, organist, and recording! It's great to be reminded at this miserable time in history that humans can touch the face of God.
There is something going on here with real substance. It is so refreshing to hear this piece end very simply and not on some big power chord that is so typical. A great piece and a great collaboration. Some really good choices were made in this piece. One of my favorite sections is at 4:15 where the pedal part drops out which is good contrast to all the activity going on before that and it sets up nicely for the ending for the first movement.
I could tell immediately that this was Simon Preston playing. Superb phrasing, energy and an exciting performance as always. Evrrythingbhe touches is always inspirational. No one really like him.
I think even Vivaldi could not do a better job creating an arrangement for organ like this one made by Bach. This arrangement really make justice to the original.
Gerubach, thanks for feeding us with new sheets and songs. Bach would be amazed by your work. More than 250 years and his work are influencial in our age...WOW
I often wonder what Bach would think if he knew that he is more revered today than he ever was in life. That's the irony about geniuses, never fully appreciated by their contemporaries.
The "heart-wrenching" spot debate is just that, spotty. How about we say that this entire work makes one's heart sing at such sounds. If music is that beautiful here on earth, imagine what the Lord has in store for us that believe in Him!!! Thank you Lord!!
I absolutely love playing Bach on the organ, it takes so long to get everything correct but in the end is absolutely worth it. And Simon Preston is my favourite Organist! Thank you
Vivaldi’s music is extremely angelic. Like you’re looking at one of the biblically accurate angels with it’s symmetry, repetitiveness (in good style) and powerful cadences.
This is a transcription of Vivaldi's Concerto for Two Violins in A minor, RV 522. And a great one at that. Here is a link to the original conceerto: czcams.com/video/7E-RTI-H2oI/video.html
The Adagio clearly is a major inspiration in the one in Bach's original "Concerto Italiano". Despite the allegations of having "written the same Concerto 600 times", if you've been held in such regard by the greatest of them all we can comfortably say your value is out of discussion.
the figure in and around 11 minutes is a series of up a fourth progressions within up a fourth tonicizarions, notice the nut of the loop when the ruckpositiv enters it's no longer the III chord but the minor one chord huh?
If anyone sees a lag (usually about a quarter-note's worth) between the sound and the position of the music, it is most likely from having Bluetooth speakers. (It won't happen with built-in or wired speakers.) This can be the combined result of the Bluetooth driver's packaging the digital signal, and the speakers' having to decode that into connected digital units that, then, have to be sent through a RAMDAC for digital-to-analog conversion in the electrical signal to the magnets of the speaker units.
quel et cet orgue qui et si agreable a ecouter ? ou et t il ? mr josef zimmerman et parfait ! choix des registres varier , phraser , tempo , le resultat et la pour notre ravissement / merci ! pierre-xavier de chassot .
The dotted half notes at 0:55 and again at 3:14 elapsed are not being held long enough. They are being played as if they were not dotted which is wrong playing. They need to be held for 3 full beats of that measure.
I usually can distinguish between Bach and other composers, even baroque ones, pretty quickly. But it’s easy to understand why Bach loved Vivaldi from this piece. Soooooo similar to so many original Bach works.
At 4:30 elapsed, is there an implied ritardando in the 2nd to last measure of the first movement because I don't see it notated. If it is meant to be there, why didn't Bach put it in since he arranged this piece for pipe organ? If it wasn't meant to be there, then why does this performer play it as if there was one there? Same thing happens at the end of the 2nd and 3rd movements.
You won’t find a ritardando notated in most of Bachs’s music if I remember correctly, however it is still almost always played. Decisions like if you should play a ritardando or not are always up to the performer and the music being played. In most of Bach’s music a ritardando is always fitting, because endings might otherwise come to abrupt, thus most performers choose to play one.
Very strange that the largest musical minds in history all lived at about the same time; Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, Pachelbel, the Couperins, Scarlatti,... I wonder why?
Because music it's a part of a whole social thinking. Not about talent, not about virtuosity or superiority. Music are not dots on a paper, sacred notations that should be kept through time. It's not even the sound that it produces, that's just the way it expresses itself. Knowledge is not something able to be transcribed perfectly on books. Bach was what he was thanks to his environment, especially his family and hard work and passion, just another mortal that experienced his life how he could. How many possible Bachs must exist now?
@@qwertyschneider None, western culture is collapsing due to crazy leftists. At least all the scores are stored electronically and can be accessed by other people in the future.
C'est Wunderbach ! Imaginez ce que JS Bach eût pu produire s'il avait fait partie de la véritable église catholique au lieu d'être prisonnier de sa chétive hérésie allemande...
On parle de génies, tel Einstein, Mozart, Schrödinger voire de Broglie, mais y avait Bach, et tout était dit... Et je me relève difficilement en sachant qu'il y aura toujours un pithécanthrope qui me demandera d'éteindre cette "sotte" musique....
One would think this was not a work by Bach, unless one knows it was based on Vivaldi. It has many style gallant , linear and simple parallel elements that Bach normally would rarely use. You can see in the 1st movement how Bach's inner non-conformist musical mind is trying to break out in the inner harmony, while Bach is consciously trying to keep a lid on things, and stick to the spirit of Vivaldi's original work. lol
Bach also wrote galant music. He was not opposed to it but he thought those who restricted themselves to the galant style were lazy and didn’t care for dissonance. See the Scheibe/Birnbaum debate.
The first movement is almost totally unchanged so I don't know what you're on. Bach thoroughly admired Vivaldi, so maybe he literally transcribed it because he liked the piece as it is, and the very few changes probably weren't made in an alledged spirit of "non-conformism" but simply in order for it to be more interesting to play and listen to with the organ. Because although these transcriptions of Vivaldi pieces on organs are often very pleasing, they still lose a lot of complexity and interest simply because some techniques and way of playing with violins can simply not be replicated on other instruments. The 3rd movement for example of this very concerto is much more impressive, complex and pleasing in its original form, with the barriolage and the stacatto that weren't translated well on the organ. (the 2nd movement suffers quite a lot from the lack of vibrato and double voice IMO too).
@Pointy .. one would think !! And one thinks right , this is NOT music from Bach who simply did a ( genial sumptuous awful ) transcription. And you being an educated Music Listener , quite confidently intercept the MANY Music that the ( undoubtedly ) great Bach borrowed from others 😮😮😮😮
Vivaldi, what can you say of him? Bach thought that he was a genius and thats more than enough for me, I love them both.
@Jo T You do sound like someone who would like their own comments
@Jo T Jack was trying to write a nice comment, so why do people like you just come and say random things that do not correspond with the discussion at all?
Equally it is a tremendous pity that Bach failed in his attempt to meet Handel. What could have been the musical result of the two (of four) musical genius’ having time together discussing their compositions.
@@orb3796 I like my own comments! 🥰
@Jo T ???
Bach, the absolute madman, really did it. I was not expecting to see he arranged this concerto, but he did it!
I have always wished Bach and Vivaldi had meet each other at some point in their lifes.
at some point in their lifes
they really meet
The afterlife.
I'm very glad he met Buxtehude tho
@@plebiu Agreed. He also met Georg Böhm and possibly Jan Reincken. A shame he never met Handel or Vivaldi. We know he corresponded with François Coupérin, but his letters sadly do not survive.
Yes, same story with Beethoven and Mozart..
A few days ago organist on my church player this before a mass. What a power, what a creeps, what a thrill. Wanderful
高校生の頃、ＢＷＶ593を聴いて感激しました。今、６２歳ですが、感激を新たにしています。
What a joy! Vivaldi, Bach, and such a wonderful organ, organist, and recording! It's great to be reminded at this miserable time in history that humans can touch the face of God.
2:53 is so heart-wrenching
automatofix 10:45 better than that :)
Better? hmmm
It is such a beautiful passage. It seems to me baroque composers were so obsessed with heart-wrenching beauty, with God, or with both.
it is so predictive in a positive view as well!
3:59 too
There is something going on here with real substance. It is so refreshing to hear this piece end very simply and not on some big power chord that is so typical. A great piece and a great collaboration. Some really good choices were made in this piece. One of my favorite sections is at 4:15 where the pedal part drops out which is good contrast to all the activity going on before that and it sets up nicely for the ending for the first movement.
Bach and Vivaldi together. What else can I say? Beautiful execution and interpretation organist! Thanks for that!
Two combinations I love: Bach and Buxtehude, and Bach and Vivaldi.
I could tell immediately that this was Simon Preston playing. Superb phrasing, energy and an exciting performance as always. Evrrythingbhe touches is always inspirational. No one really like him.
thank u for putting his name here. i will be exploring into his recordings now!
KInd of how I feel about Helmut Walcha.
Love it, I cannot stop listening. I love you Johann, x
Honestly you owe your love and gratitude mostly to Vivaldi , the ORIGINAL REAL Author , Cheers 🎉🎉
god this is beautiful
Yes
0:39
I think even Vivaldi could not do a better job creating an arrangement for organ like this one made by Bach. This arrangement really make justice to the original.
Insanely beautiful work.
Pretty good, but I wouldn't go that far.
@@davidjames1684 I would.
Gerubach, thanks for feeding us with new sheets and songs. Bach would be amazed by your work. More than 250 years and his work are influencial in our age...WOW
I often wonder what Bach would think if he knew that he is more revered today than he ever was in life. That's the irony about geniuses, never fully appreciated by their contemporaries.
Con un poco de sensibilidad que tengamos, esta composición te eleva hacia Dios. Gracias a su Autor y a sus intérpretes por tanta belleza!!
The "heart-wrenching" spot debate is just that, spotty. How about we say that this entire work makes one's heart sing at such sounds. If music is that beautiful here on earth, imagine what the Lord has in store for us that believe in Him!!! Thank you Lord!!
Amazing work, Geru! Definitely one of my fave discoveries on your channel! 🙏🏽🦊
Wow, I can hear so much more of the harmonies and the specific lines in this registration. It's really awesome.
Maravilha! Certamente um dos melhores arranjos de todos os tempos. Aqui dá para ter noção, um pouquinho, de como é os céus. Glória a Deus!
I absolutely love playing Bach on the organ, it takes so long to get everything correct but in the end is absolutely worth it. And Simon Preston is my favourite Organist! Thank you
Allegro is particularly beautiful! Can't stop listening! :)
Vivaldi’s music is extremely angelic. Like you’re looking at one of the biblically accurate angels with it’s symmetry, repetitiveness (in good style) and powerful cadences.
Well said. I think Bach is not Angelic or godly, nor heavenly. Bach’s music is only “churchly”.
@@weiliu3623 Bach is infinitely superior to Vivaldi
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Bach himself did not think so!
Simply amazing. You do great work.
Love that recurring motif in the Allegro; beautiful
I just cant hold my head pounding on that allegro!!! And now I need more, and I know Bach can provide more than I can handle :O
Love all that you do sir
God Bless
I WAS HOPING THIS VIDEO!!! THANKS A LOT
I knew the original piece but not the organ's arrangement of Bach ! Thank you to share it :)
Brillante ,precioso,gracias.
Brevíssimo! Gracias por el vídeo y la partitura!
Thanks for the work!
É uma obra prima. Fantástico!
This is a transcription of Vivaldi's Concerto for Two Violins in A minor, RV 522. And a great one at that. Here is a link to the original conceerto: czcams.com/video/7E-RTI-H2oI/video.html
FBI, open up!
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven you can't even hear this masterpiece so stfu
Beautiful.
MAGNIFICENT thank you !!!
The Adagio clearly is a major inspiration in the one in Bach's original "Concerto Italiano".
Despite the allegations of having "written the same Concerto 600 times", if you've been held in such regard by the greatest of them all we can comfortably say your value is out of discussion.
Agreed, and I love Vivaldi's melodies and energy!
Génial, merci :D
Love it!
I start and end the day with this song~~
Glorious reverb.
0:39 beautiful
There was a reason for one. And that's why this is my favourite music.
Well done!
Simon Preston è sempre uno spettacolo!!!!
Блестяще!
There is always those 1 or 2 people who dislike the videos! I wonder who they are.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Your son Wilhelm says he doesn't know, and can he borrow 30 ducats
Hans Zimmer's fans
Rappers
fans lovers the DESPACITO .......
After following along very closely, now everything in the room is moving! Bach acid trip
the figure in and around 11 minutes is a series of up a fourth progressions within up a fourth tonicizarions, notice the nut of the loop when the ruckpositiv enters it's no longer the III chord but the minor one chord huh?
If anyone sees a lag (usually about a quarter-note's worth) between the sound and the position of the music, it is most likely from having Bluetooth speakers. (It won't happen with built-in or wired speakers.)
This can be the combined result of the Bluetooth driver's packaging the digital signal, and the speakers' having to decode that into connected digital units that, then, have to be sent through a RAMDAC for digital-to-analog conversion in the electrical signal to the magnets of the speaker units.
estaría genial si pueden hacer un video sobre el "Oratorio de Pascuas" de J. S. Bach; estaría muy agradecido
1:45 to 2:25 sounds almost modern. I dont know but theres something realy familiar about these parts.
I find Preston's attack & dance tempo in outer mvts refreshing... had not heard this recording.
First part sounds quite medieval...I really like it haha
Hello, thank for allí of your videos, amazing. I'm interested un how to scrolling like that.
The beginning is epic
gerubach I love you!
What a hoot!😀
باخ العظيم عبقرية فذه في تاريخ الموسيقي العالمية ...بل في تاريخ البشرية ...شكرا جزيلا
Großartig, Gruß aus Deutschland
Surréaliste !
🖤
quel et cet orgue qui et si agreable a ecouter ? ou et t il ? mr josef zimmerman et parfait ! choix des registres varier , phraser , tempo , le resultat et la pour notre ravissement / merci ! pierre-xavier de chassot .
Bravo bravo bravo
Best part
0:24 - 12:45
This gives me blackened deathcore vibes
The dotted half notes at 0:55 and again at 3:14 elapsed are not being held long enough. They are being played as if they were not dotted which is wrong playing. They need to be held for 3 full beats of that measure.
crazyyyyyy
03:54
man, thats God talking to us.
no
@@IceKrabiklol
I usually can distinguish between Bach and other composers, even baroque ones, pretty quickly. But it’s easy to understand why Bach loved Vivaldi from this piece. Soooooo similar to so many original Bach works.
Still wishing I can get an organ so I can have foot pedals, instead of playing the pedal part and recording it on my keyboard. Still dreaming. 🙏
Are you still looking? I hipe you’ve found one. Good luck
💕🍀
2:50 my favorite part
The first two measures sound like thunderstruck from AC/DC😅
At 4:30 elapsed, is there an implied ritardando in the 2nd to last measure of the first movement because I don't see it notated. If it is meant to be there, why didn't Bach put it in since he arranged this piece for pipe organ? If it wasn't meant to be there, then why does this performer play it as if there was one there? Same thing happens at the end of the 2nd and 3rd movements.
You won’t find a ritardando notated in most of Bachs’s music if I remember correctly, however it is still almost always played. Decisions like if you should play a ritardando or not are always up to the performer and the music being played. In most of Bach’s music a ritardando is always fitting, because endings might otherwise come to abrupt, thus most performers choose to play one.
Very strange that the largest musical minds in history all lived at about the same time; Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, Pachelbel, the Couperins, Scarlatti,... I wonder why?
Because music it's a part of a whole social thinking. Not about talent, not about virtuosity or superiority. Music are not dots on a paper, sacred notations that should be kept through time. It's not even the sound that it produces, that's just the way it expresses itself. Knowledge is not something able to be transcribed perfectly on books. Bach was what he was thanks to his environment, especially his family and hard work and passion, just another mortal that experienced his life how he could. How many possible Bachs must exist now?
@@qwertyschneider 0
Because Baroque is the BEST period of music? :D
@@qwertyschneider None, western culture is collapsing due to crazy leftists. At least all the scores are stored electronically and can be accessed by other people in the future.
Still prefer Vivaldi's original RV522, so intense and powerful, with a hint of mystery...I sense Venice in his music.
Yo también prefiero el original a la “ copia “ ( transcripción, realmente ).
Vivaldi REALLY likes that motif doesn't he? I don't know what it's called, but I'm sure some know what I'm talking about.
Beautiful music, and good job editing though.
Can someone point out where the motif appears?
Yes but where can I find this in the video?
Could you give me a time marker example? My knowledge of music theory is limited.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
N1C3
1:09 Just sing it. Ale ale ale😂
how do you make those Scrolling notes??
3:34 awesome
C'est Wunderbach ! Imaginez ce que JS Bach eût pu produire s'il avait fait partie de la véritable église catholique au lieu d'être prisonnier de sa chétive hérésie allemande...
ok obviously this is the preston recording, i own the full set too, but YT seems to be wrong.. says the artist is "josef zimmermann".. oO
2:51- 2:55 AC/DC-Thunderstruck
I knew im not the only one
UN JOYAU à déguster avec un apfel wine 😁😘💋💜
Nb: une cadence moins rapid peut allonger le plaisir 🤗
I'm going to learn this piece for day five of Simply Organ. Is it too hard for a fifth day beginner?
It can be played on Pedal Piano too
Cool
What is this, five voices played by the same person? Two voices for soprano (right hand), two for the bass (left hand) and one for the feet.
1:07 , 1:31 , 3:18 2:30 , 2:52 , 3:34 , 4:14 predictive in a fascinating way
waaaaaw
Why did Bach always conclude his pieces with a Picardy third major resolution?
Because he knew better than to finish in a minor
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
I'm on a bach binge
06:52 💔
I knew that this was played by Simon Preston
Adagio... Beautiful
Eine alte, anständige deutsche Orgelschule
where is the fugue ? '-'
On parle de génies, tel Einstein, Mozart, Schrödinger voire de Broglie, mais y avait Bach, et tout était dit... Et je me relève difficilement en sachant qu'il y aura toujours un pithécanthrope qui me demandera d'éteindre cette "sotte" musique....
One would think this was not a work by Bach, unless one knows it was based on Vivaldi. It has many style gallant , linear and simple parallel elements that Bach normally would rarely use. You can see in the 1st movement how Bach's inner non-conformist musical mind is trying to break out in the inner harmony, while Bach is consciously trying to keep a lid on things, and stick to the spirit of Vivaldi's original work. lol
Bach also wrote galant music. He was not opposed to it but he thought those who restricted themselves to the galant style were lazy and didn’t care for dissonance.
See the Scheibe/Birnbaum debate.
The first movement is almost totally unchanged so I don't know what you're on.
Bach thoroughly admired Vivaldi, so maybe he literally transcribed it because he liked the piece as it is, and the very few changes probably weren't made in an alledged spirit of "non-conformism" but simply in order for it to be more interesting to play and listen to with the organ. Because although these transcriptions of Vivaldi pieces on organs are often very pleasing, they still lose a lot of complexity and interest simply because some techniques and way of playing with violins can simply not be replicated on other instruments.
The 3rd movement for example of this very concerto is much more impressive, complex and pleasing in its original form, with the barriolage and the stacatto that weren't translated well on the organ. (the 2nd movement suffers quite a lot from the lack of vibrato and double voice IMO too).
@Pointy .. one would think !! And one thinks right , this is NOT music from Bach who simply did a ( genial sumptuous awful ) transcription. And you being an educated Music Listener , quite confidently intercept the MANY Music that the ( undoubtedly ) great Bach borrowed from others 😮😮😮😮