Prototype HST 41001 Cold Start @ Wansford, 7th April 2016
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- 125 Group/Project Miller prototype HST power car 41001 performs a cold start at Wansford on the Nene Valley Railway after arriving as part of the convoy from Leicester LIP ready for the NVR Spring Diesel Gala at the weekend. After a spectacular smokey show, 41001 uncouples from its matching Mk3's and runs round to refuel. Filmed on 7th April 2016.
The loco convoy moves will feature in a separate movie later
"No smoking at this station"
Class 43 and 41's: Hold my clag for a second,
Now that's what I call vaping.....massive clouds.
Outstanding amount of smoke
1:07 Nice smoke screen. Military might be interested.
your perseverance paid off - well done and glad you got to see it in the convoy move today - deffo in the right place to get smoked out and bet that smelt great :)
Wow! when you said smoked out.....you really meant it!! Lovely, glad you had a great day
Very good shots. Certainly a lot more smoke than when it was started up on the Friday morning of the MNR's gala the previous weekend!
I love the livery of the prototype, it reminds me of the light version of the blue pullman sets. All they need now is to build another power car for the other end.
A normal person would of thought that's a steam train
LOL your right
Rhys' Trains Would HAVE. NOT OF
So I guess you are not normal
Rhys' Trains WOULD HAVE not would of....
LOL
Great video, looking forward to seeing it tomorrow.
Now that's a Valenta! Nice one Darren. Nice to see the loco running light engine too. I had a similarly smoky experience on exactly the same spot, but mine was a class 31 a few years back.
Wow....Smoke in Bucket loads....Great video...Steve.-:)
Great video Darren.
That smokes more than i do.
"You int seen me......roight !!!" Had that for haulage at MNR bloody brilliant!!
Smokin.....loving the cough at 49 secs 😀
not surprised it needed fuel after that start, I think you must have swallowed a couple of litres when it started up :p
Great video.
Wow it started then cut out but 2nd start up stayed running great action from that Valenta
Epic clag!
Well worked out day for you Darren.
Great video.☺️
Thanks very much.
Super video
Impressive!!
Very impressive nice video😁😁😁
I love the sound of injector knock 😌
Blimey that was a hard start compared to the one we got at the MNR!
Cameraman loving the smell of all the diesel smokes. It smells amazing
Euro 6 compliant :)
LOL :-)
Most certainly!
🤣😅😆
HST COMPLIANT
A mad smoky cold start up. Smoke, like a steam engine after fire up
How could they make a train that is so claggy, even back in the 70s when the 125 was being developed, and think 'yea this is okay' to pump out so much reek?! I know we're all green an environmental these days but the clag, even back then must have raised eyebrows?? Haha. Brilliant video :)
Thankfully it's just raw diesel at that point, although from other vids they seem to like a drop of oil in the combustion chamber also 😳😂
Maybe the Class 41 deserves to win at the clag complication show
Nope they didn't give a crap back then
Is that amount of smoke normal, startup and when running or does it need repairs which took it offline
Nice! :)
I went to the gala on a saterday
Is this the loco AP used to record sounds for their class 43 valenta enhancement pack?
Great footage mate hopefully down 09/04/16
A random lady in station: hello?
There's usually one somewhere ;-)
Shame we don't hear that sound anymore.
Clean air zone exempt?
Never seen a Class 41... I never knew they existed even though I know SO MANY TRAINS! Unusual train have to say.
well they were the prototype HSTs and the class is only 1 strong these days
One set, two power cars, one of the two is dead
Huff, puff and chuff!
Smokey start indicates a very cold engine , notice the smoke has disappeared after a short while !
Everyone love a bit of Trash and Crag
If Redex made Carlsberg, this would probably be the best train start ever
Very good, I like that :-)
There's a vid of an EMT VP185 cold starting at Leeds and it sounds identical to this Valenta.
The EMT power cars are the only decent sounding HST power cars left now that the others are all MTU sadly.
VP is a heavily improved Valenta, at the end of the day :)
I know it's running and all, but why won't they push it to go as fast as a production Class 43?
Is it fragile?
holy crap could've created a tornado with that amount of smoke
Pretty much all that was missing from this shot!
Love that screaming starter motor, the old Paxman coughing knocking belching oily grey smoke like a 40 a day grandad. But hey it is a big english bulldog diesel, and allowed to cough and fart, least it is not a pissy little diesel made in Korea and more suited to powering a sex toy out of an Anne Summers Catalogue.
Cough!!! Fully smoke like this.... I cannot breath in cause make me heart attack!
You should've been standing where I was!
Lol!!!
My condolences to the cameraman
Great vid here, but I think next time you should consider which way the wind is blowing and film from there, that way the film wont be blocked out with all the clag LOl, just a thought for next time .
Needs more choke
I always thought it was EEs that started one pot at a time!
Wow
Mega
Holy shit that's what I call smoke
Gotta be the smokiest loco I've ever filmed, beating any steam loco!
yes cold start
Can't beat them.
Smoking like a steam locomotive. An early 41 diesel unit, that should on display at York nat rail museum.
William Radford It was orriginally, but then they decided to ressurrect it.
AH! the seldom used invisibility shield ! Makes James Bonds DB7 Aston look a bit ordinary.
🤣🤣😂😅😆 That one made my day! 🤣😅😆 It's camouflage technology!!!!
who needs f***ing kettles! Brilliant stuff🙂
In what time u live there on that island ? Diesel trains, OMG !!
Most countries use at least some Diesel traction e.g. for branch lines. Note the video shows the prototype power car which is now an obsolete design, the IC125 power cars were re-engineered around the year 2006 and MTU 16V4000 R41R engines fitted. The German MTU engines are far more environmentally friendly and produce no visible smoke (while still in good condition). The MTU engines are interlocked so that starting the engine is not possible unless the engine has been electrically heated up to about 25 degrees C (from memory).
If interested you can see & hear an MTU engine starting if you search for this video …… `Great Western Railway 43156 Engine Startup at Camborne'
Where do you live
*MINION TRAIN*
*MINION TRAIN*
I never knew Class 41s engines were Volkswagen.
Its like a munter Minion
Why is there not the deafening whine that I remember of the production HST's? It sounds almost like a modern diesel (slow rev's and quiet)
orange appled it's the prototype. It's actually quite different from production HSTs
orange appled I'm guessing the prototype had no turbocharger?
i'm guessing that the turbocharger never really kicked in because they weren't pushing it that hard
It’s only idling and with no load on the Engine. The screaming only happened when 24psi of turbo charged air pressure applied and at 27000 rpm 😉
As load increases, the Napier turbocharger starts to spin up; first a low whistle, getting higher and higher until you get the scream, then higher still until just a hiss. The turbo shaft produces 750bhp.
Dam it I filled up with unleaded by mistake !!
Thought it was red diesel! :-)
Pielstick?
Now that's clag.
Paxman clagtastic!
Euro VI compliant? Methinks not. :)
Was that a Valenta engine?
Yes
U still live in the 50 / 60 's ??
This thing was built in 1972
This the one sat in york ???
I thought it was at Shildon?
they should make the prototype hst mainline certified
I believe that is the ultimate goal, along with acquiring a production HST power car too. Well worth joining the 125 Group and supporting their efforts.
thanks for that i bare that in mind
I wonder if 41001 is mainline registered and is permitted to be ran on the mainline
slenderman7676 Rblx not at the moment. Whether it ever will..who knows..
Well that's the goal
APU must be in place here , it will extend the engine / Human life and save time.
I'm not familiar with APU?
It's small diesel engine with alternator to charge battery and heat lube oil and coolant some times combine with a small boiler .
APU standing for auxiliary power unit I presume?
sounds almost like Pielstick engine. Pielstick 12 PA-4-185
I will have to take your word for that :-)
Constructed 1972.
Do love a paxman valentia
See all
Habemus papam!
Set smoke screens to maximum, no photographs it's classified.
If they did that in Australia the Enviromental Protection Agency would give them a huge fine and ground the engine.
Your XPT has an update of the Valenta - the VP185. I understand that when stone cold those engines also `vape' alot since the design predates preheaters. I don't know whether the fleet of XPTs will be re-engined with German MTUs eventually (like the UK HSTs) but these I believe do have preheaters and start like a dream. Although MTU is German the last time i checked they were owned by Rolls Royce Power Systems AG.
Martindyna I live in a different state and don't know much about them. I remember that they got new engines though. Australia is also in the dark ages when it comes to trains too, the politicians love roads.
Yes, you may be remembering when the engines were changed from Paxman Valenta to Paxman VP185s. Although not liked by most train enthusiasts, MTU engines are far greener than either of them. I don't agree that the IC125 is the dark ages now the power cars have been re-engineered with MTU and other changes although in terms of speed obviously you are correct (but there again I like old British Rail stuff).
Our government has recently decided to run a line under London from West England to East London so the IC125 is being replaced on that line (by Hitachi dual mode electric / Diesel trains) since Diesel is unsuitable to run in tunnels. What a waste of money!!!
The smoke effects might have been a bit overdone
Had to laugh when somebody coughed!
Did Valentas misbehave like that when cold even when new? - if so I would have thought that the media would have pounced on this except for the fact that most people in the UK are prejudiced for the IC125 and Valentas.
Presumably the design predates the use of preheaters.
It's not unique to 41001 or HST's though, there's quite a few cold start movies like this on CZcams with Class 37, Class 50, Class 56, and more.
It's a marine engine, so I'd say yes
this is a new train?
+intersezioni yes, they will use it on HS2 when there isn't any overhead power ;)
It was new at one point.
(1972)
More like, the Smoking Valenta
Exuse me Mr HST but you forgot ya coaches
Did you have a face mask on .
Keynsham-Trains now you need it!
the engine Sound look like ge u18c
I'll take your word for it :-)
Where's the train? Ps under all that smoke lol
So was I - cough, cough!
it starrs with difficult,,not all the cylinder s work,,,if you hear,,only one or two works at the beginning,,,the huge clag(fuel vaporizated) are from the cylinders that doesnt ignite the fuel,,,when more cylinders ignite the fuel and the engine warms the clag decreases,,,,,warning""This clag is flammable,,,many locos eshaust flames during cold start!!
A flash of flame was all that was missing from this one!
Mr Deltic 15,,at the end of the video,when the engine warmed the huge clag attenuates a lot,,the detonation heared at the beginning is the fuel that explodes into the cylinder,,not ignites gradually,as the diesel cycle.
Ahhh where's everyone gone cough splutter ahhhh cough clag ughhh
Hey no smoking allowed
Clag At it’s finest
Mind if I smoke cough cough nothing like diesel exhaust through your lungs
It was a bit cough inducing, but I stood my ground for the movie!
Is it just me who thinks it looked good?
No, I think quite a few liked the look of it :-)
It looks kinda cute lol
needs a service if it's that bad
Just clearing its throat after standing idle for a while.
We get it, you vape
Like it :-)
How exactly could a designed look at this and think it looks good ? The 43s look decent, but this front end is hideous.
needs a service if it smokes like that
nope, is POS
Valenta engines are prone to be quite smokey at times, and is was a standard feature to the HST's originally, nowadays, the production samples now have much cleaner MTU Engines