Dream Theater - Octavarium (Reaction)
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2020
- My first listen to, Octavarium by Dream Theater . Excellent musicianship!
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Emotion is literally pouring out of that outro, I really dont know how you cannot feel that. Im sure you’ll feel it on multiple listens.
The intro, I'll give you and some in the later stages. The majority of it didn't hit me on an emotional level. But I agree, more time maybe required to get the full impact.
I haven't listened to this song in quite awhile, but I know the ending always knocked me out. Especially from "We Move in circles..." almost has a Rush feel to it. Now with Peart's passing, it's hitting hard.
Like a ton of bricks!! Always loved Rush. Listen and watch anything and everything that they are evolved in. And still, this hit me harder than I ever could of expected!
To get the full experience of the gamut and depth of emotions this song goes through, watch and listen to it on the Score: 20th Anniversary live video which was recorded at radio city music hall. It's one of my favorite experiences of all time. It brings me to tears of utter joy and frisson everytime.
Their live version was epic mind blowing, you can see the gesture of all players
My favorite band of all time.
I never listened to them because I was a huge Queensryche fan, and D.T fans kept telling me how much better they were then Queensryche. So out of spite, I wouldn't listen. But they are pretty damn good!
@@sonicallydisruptive lol
The song is a microcosm of the entire album Octavarium, which basically represents the cyclical nature of things. The entire album is a huge concept, even to the point of there being 8 songs, 8 musical keys, and each song begins on one key, ends on the next key, and the next song starts on that same key. The song ends with the same chords and melody as the song began. The album is so complex that someone wrote a thesis explaining it.
If you're really interested, here's the link with all of the references and tie-ins that go into the album - dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php
Thanks! That is very deep stuff. I'll take a look.
did you wrote that thesis ?
Song gives me goose bumps no matter which version. Good stuff!
Please, react to Best of Times - Dream Theater... Really emotional song and one of the best guitar solos...
I'll add it and do that song soon, thanks.
That outro and guitar solo are one of the most gorgeous pieces of music ever created
To fully understand the backstory to this song, you need to listen to the previous few albums that Dream Theater released, starting with Scenes From A Memory. The ending of each of these segues into the next. Scenes ends off with some white noise, which is how The Glass Prison opens up with, on Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence. And so forth. The guys in Dream Theater were looking for a way to get off this cycle, which could have continued indefinitely, and so they composed Octavarium to that end.
There is so much more that goes into this. Eight studio albums. Five current members and three former members, representing five lyrical and three instrumental movements.
You are completely correct. It is a masterpiece.
That sounds like a crazy rabbit hole to go down. Nice
*cracks knuckles* some context. It's not really a concept album, but it does how ever share many themes throughout that all come together in this track. First theme is the ratio of 5 and 8. It's in the artwork, the songs, everything. The second major theme which is pretty clearly laid out is everything coming full circle. The first lyric movement of the song is a guy scoffing at someone average, becoming an overachiever than wishing he had a more simple life. The second a doctor revives a catatonic patient who's been out for 30 years only to have him relapse. Then we have the movement that's full of references to various bands and things that have influenced them now to find out they're the ones being considered influential. The next lyrical movement uses a line or two to briefly sum up each song on the album until realizing being "trapped inside this octavarium" then we move into the finale that tries to tie it all together. Like you said it's a hell of a lot to unpack in one reaction lol but I do love it, my user name comes from combining paradigm shift by liquid tension experiment which is basically instrumental dream theater with Tony Levin on bass, and then of course this song.
I definitely didn't catch all of that on the 1st listen! That is some deep writing. Thanks for the knowledge. Knowing all of that I'll go back and listen again.
React to Illumination Theory, GREAT SONG with a lot of epic parts to it, KEEP UP THE CONTENT! LOVE IT!
I will add it and do it soon. Thank you, I great appreciate it!
@@sonicallydisruptive I saw what you write about "studio version first", but even in your own time don't hesitate to watch all those masterpieces in their live versions (Score, Budokan, Boston or Luna Park). It's a whole new experience. (illumination theory being a good example). Cheers and enjoy your DT journey, best band ever :)
There so many songs that are really epic one of my favorite is Change Of Seasons. That is a must listen.
I'll add it, thanks.
You gotta do Under a glass moon if you want epic solo
I you want a emotional DT I highly reccomend The Count Of Tuscany💚
Thanks. I'll add The Count of Tuscany.
@@sonicallydisruptive that is a *_very_* good choice for a song! It's stunningly beautiful in parts.
Dude, right after the Gilmour comment in the beginning, did you grab a chip and turn the music up at the same time? That was smooth.
You should check out all the meanings and nuggets behind the song and album, it's mindblowing... I promise.
If you like longer songs and you like guitar alot (I assume you do) you need to listen to In The Presence of Enemies (part 1 and 2 combined!). 26 minute song with 6 movements. It's not like Octavarium at all or any of their longer songs. It's a Petrucci masterclass, alot of shredding, riffing (like the fastest and hardest guitar parts I have ever seen especialy in the main solo, and I listen to alot of shred). In my opinion it's easily their most underrated masterpiece. Like nobody (almost) recommends this song and I don't know why. Maybe because it's not as emotional? It's more of a story based with main 2 characters: A man (Heretic) and the Dark Master which is symbolized as his personal struggles and darkness that he has within himself. The song has a very sinister vibe to it which I love so much, it's a badass song.
Very deep. I'm sure knowing that deepens the entire experience. Thanks for the knowledge.
Liquid tension experiment - when the water breaks live in LA. It’s basically dream theater without a singer and different bassist. Thank me later.
The first thing I thought while watching/listening to the intro was "Hey, it's Pink Floyd'ish". And I agree completely about both the amazing musicianship and not really getting much of an emotional journey out of it. Btw., they did a whole show playing Dark Side of the Moon. They did it very well and nailed some of the atmosphere but obviously they're not Pink Floyd (and James LaBrie & John Petrucci is not David Gilmour/Roger Waters).
Lol you need to get used to many DT songs before listening to this masterpiece. No DT fan will say there's no emotional journey. The ending is known for how emotional it is...
@@nikelodeon6852 Sure. However, if you're not a DT fan you may not pick up emotionally on it. It's entirely subjective. I wrote in the earlier DT reaction that I've tried several times to get into DT but for various reasons I just couldn't. It doesn't mean I'm dissing the band or the fans, it's just my personal (humble) opinion.
Yep, on 1st listen, no emotional connection for me. I get the feeling the guys in D.T. may be happy and feel, if you get it right away, its too easy.
@@sonicallydisruptive You need to listen to it multiple times like any other prog song for it to grow on you. There are also soft ballads by them which you'll probably like.
@@nikelodeon6852 I get that, some of my favorites took effort and time listening. And it doesn't need to be a ballad. I just like to feel a strong emotion. Whatever it is, pain, joy, anger, doesn't matter what. And it doesn't need to even be a great song. If I really feel it. I like it.
Dream Theater is simply not for folks without a " musical ear"
It is exctly like the movie Amadeus when the Emperor say oh Mozart this was good but to many notes people cant digest so many notes just cut a few notes here and there and it will be fine,
And mozart replied EXACTLY what notes should i cut this peice has exactly as many notes as the song require cut one and it will be diminished enogh said!! :)
Best of Times !!!!!!!!!!
I would love to see you do The Count of Tuscany. A Nightmare to Remember is also an essential one if you’re looking for something more aggressive. As for something more emotional/somber, Space Dye Vest is an older classic
I'm doing Count of Tuscany in a day or 2. It's the next D.T song on my list, thanks.
@@sonicallydisruptive Great, I will be looking forward to it
@@sonicallydisruptive Yes! Can't wait to see how you react that outro gets me every time
If you are so inclined, Dream Theater did a full live performance of Dark Side Of The Moon.
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Hey Mr. Great song, please check The count of tuscany, a change of seasons, a nightmare to remember, in presence of enemies 1 and 2. At Wit's End. Metrópolis part 1, voices, in the name of god, endless Sacrificed, Sacrificed sons, under a glass moon, the best of times, hollow years, Dissapear, silent man, the mirror, the root of a evil, as I am, this dying soul, the ministry of los souls, outcry by Dream theater. Let the game begin
That is a lot of songs! I did do Endless Sacrifice. I'll be doing some of those on your list soon, thanks!
@@sonicallydisruptive Just close your eyes and choose randomly haha Although I think you need to expire with the count of tuscany and a change of seasons
Ministry of lost souls. My goodness, when I first heard it, it was the only song I listened to for a whole week! On top of that, In the presence of enemies I and II are on the same album! About 4 years ago, I started keying in to the lyrics of DT. The depth and genius of the musicality is matched, arguably superseded by, the lyrics.
Listen The Glass Prison for the next reaction, please!
Others have said that as well. I guess I better check that one out. Thanks for the suggestion!
Ok Please Next Dream Theater - Panic Attack !
I will do it soon. I've promised The Count of Tuscany first, then Panic Attack!
Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways (Part 1 & 2)
I'm a big Porcupine Tree fan, so I already know the music, otherwise I'd love to.
i like change of seasons better, but nice choice, i like your boldnes sir
I see that you reacted to various songs of DT, well. I don't know if you want to react to some more but, I will tell you songs you must listen to. "The Glass Prison", "A Change of Seasons", "Metropolis Pt. 1". The whole album "Metropolis Pt.2" and if you liked that try then twelve step suite. See ya.
Its your decision to listen the songs
I did A Change of Season. I did the 1st 4 parts in Metropolis pt 2. But it was blocked. Thanks for the suggestions and I will be doing many more.
I didn't know Louis CK was into Prog Rock. Cool! lol JK
Just subscribed here. Check out James LaBrie's solo albums as well. The song Mislead is a good place to start. Thanks.
I wasn't aware he had done a solo record, thanks!
Try Anne by Discus👍
If you want a song with that big, emotional buildup and release, Count of Tuscany does it better than almost anything I’ve ever heard.
I'm doing that song, most likely tomorrow. Thanks
You look like Theoden
Ha ha, Not that old yet.
It didn't grab you, because you spent most of your video eating lunch in front of us.
Haha, maybe true. But it was a late night snack!