Big Little Lies: The Lessons We Learn
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- čas přidán 6. 10. 2017
- Big Little Lies taught us some interesting and useful lessons by the end of Season 1. The HBO series, with its star-studded cast including Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon, Laura Dern, Zoe Kravitz and Alexander Skarsgard, is set in Monterey, California, and explores the everyday dilemmas and life-threatening traumas modern women face. BEWARE SPOILERS. If you like this video, subscribe to our CZcams channel for more.
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Having a show that starts out with women pitted against each other and then ends with them all supporting each other is so rare and such a breath of fresh air. What a beautiful show!
👍
I cried with the last scene 😪
I loved this too, especially since they make it seem like one of the women will die but nope! Such an amazing season of television
It's not organiv though.
I never dislike Bonnie or Renata, I really like all the characters, because they present them in realistic way. Like no one is just villian or a hero
@@gordenramsauce well even Perry is not a one-dimensional bad guy. Perry is tormented, which is not an excuse for him at all, but they portray him in a more layered way. which is good. I personally liked that they portrayed why is it so hard to leave your abuser. in so many movies and series you just got a one-dimensional abuser, who is a bad guy from first sight and you just wonder: how the victim could not see it and staying there? With Perry and Celeste's self-blaming it portrays a more realistic picture of it.
@@kovilil I don't know, Perry was pretty bad. Good with the kids but otherwise not much redeeming about him that would make one stay. Few abusers are cartoonish villains.
@@edithputhy4948 yes, he was. If you read my first sentence again, I only said he wasn't one-dimensional. :) I could not feel sorry for him even for a minute, but he had layers. Actually I understood why her wife didn't leave him for so long.
Never got to like Bonnie
i keep saying this. Bonnie is not bad and Renata, while she can be a lot some times. at the very worst she’s rlly just a scared mom
Such an underrated show. It had a great ending that really brought the whole show together in a really satisfying way. And it wasn’t a predictable thing either which made it that much more impactful.
To be honest I loved all the show, except that end the way he dies and they push him! I love very end in beach! But it was a great show, I hope they make justice in the second season
I had trouble with the ending where it was just images, sound and no dialogue where as the book of course had talking. I Would've preferred it because I would've liked them reacting to what Perry did to Jane while asking what they're going to do now which helps it lead into season 2 nicely.
Amber Cotrone *it was super predictable*, the only thing I didn't predict was Perry dying, I thought it'd be Renata but Bonnie killing him was obvious from her watching in the bushes, it only made sense for the wholesome character to kill him. And Max being the bully? Obvious that he'd copy what he sees from his dad and the fact Perry and Jane never met? Of course he's the rapist. It gave us some nice duality between Max and Ziggy nature vs nurture malarkey.
underrated?? It was literally one of the most watched shows of last year. and one of the most awarded. and season 2 is coming in june....with MERYL STREEP.
I keep rewatching the last episode just for that finale. good to have DEK back writing on tv!!!!
I also love how the children in this story are so intelligent and have so much awareness
Same they remind me of my nieces and nephews, very thoughtful and know when something's wrong with the adults
I struggle with Madeline's demon of perfection. Reese does an amazing job bringing the character to life.
Then you have to check out her performance in Little Fires Everywhere
So happy you guys did a Big Little Lies piece. Another profound thing from this show is the idea of inherited evil being false.
The show brings up a couple times if there's something in Ziggys past that could be violent going as far as to ask who his father was because Ziggy just looks like an empathetic nurturing child.
In the end the ones who end up violent are the ones who live with the violence in their home. Not Ziggy.
Joshua Rodriguez That is a great point! Very true. Thanks for sharing.
Touche. Kids pick up on things that adults may not notice. Also I think domestic violence is tied up with toxic masculinity, which is not born with; it's a social construct. Like that, violent go-to measures is also learned behavior.
I still think Ziggy will have to deal with a lot... and it will affect him and those around him.
Nature Vs Nurture
One of the best female ensembles ever assembled.
I wish it had more diversity tho
@@comedygod522 yeah but then again Monterrey is not a diverse place, it's overwhelmingly white and wealthy
@@edithputhy4948 ok, but that isn't an excuse, there should diversity in every tv show or movie no matter what
@@comedygod522 no there shouldn’t be Director can cast who ever they want in there films. Forced diversity isn’t good
@@randywhite3947 "forced diversity" THERE IS NO SUCH THING.. every movie and tv show show bring representation no matter what
I actually had no idea of Bonnie’s abusive father until this video and I hope that is something they explode in season 2. I could only tell in the last few scenes in the show that something might have happened to her. Also they never explained why Jane moved from Santa Cruz to Monterey.
Abby Ventura Yea Jane in the book says she moved because she was hoping to find him in addition to starting over. In season 2 there having Bonnies mother be the abuser not the dad, maybe we'll get to see Janes family in the second season.
I know you commented this a year ago but - you can tell (though it is not explicitly stated) that Jane moved there in an attempt to chase her attacker. It is made evident through the shots of her running along the beach in the purple dress from the night she was assaulted chasing the man in the suit and the connecting shots of her running in the same place for exercise. It is blatantly said in the book that she saw him looking at real estate there, but I do think that you can tell in the show that she has connected Monterey with her attacker.
At some point she says something that had me thinking "oh she definitely has known abuse". It was in a conversation mid season i think.
@@OlgaGax I thought that too. When Ed shows up at her workplace to agree to peacemaking with her during the upcoming dinner between the couples (EdxMadeline and BonniexNathan), he tries to explain his behaviour towards Nathan as "being supportive of Madeline". Bonnie responds something along the lines of "everybody has problems/demons". That line got me wondering what was her backstory. Unfortunetely the first season left her as the least developed character of the 5 female leads, so I'm glad that they made a second season where they could explore her more.
Bonnie was the one I liked consistently through the whole show. As you said, a whole person. Maddy was the one I was rooting for to have a whole life and feel fulfilled. She constantly needed approval or acceptance but at the same time fighting every chance she got. She was similar to Perry in a way (minus the insane criminal element). Same in a way they both are needy, live in the negative and aggressive.
You guys are great. I love your deep analysis into popular shows. I never thought you guys would do Big Little Lies tho. No one ever really talks about it, but the show was really good.
Redishonor I was with you until you said "no one really talks about it." 😂😂 um, Emmy nominations and a win, critically acclaimed...I don't know what you mean by "no one really talks about it." It was so popular in the states and so talked about that HBO chose to put it in red boxes and use it as a subscription hook.
shesadg1 Really?? Most of time, when I talk to people about the show, they don't even know what I'm talking about. The only ones that do know about the show are critics who have watched everything under the sun.
as for sexual or physical violence, I love how this show encourages us not to keep it a secret. just be very careful with picking the right person but then yes, open yourself up because abusers thrive in our shame and secret and are able to prey on so many of us because we dont talk about it 😞
Unfortunately there is no being careful to pick the right person. U never know
cant wait to see Celeste tear down the system as an attorny again next season!
Excellent video. You really nailed down what I find to be most poignant about this story. I was first introduced to Big Little Lies as an audiobook, which was narrated by an Australian woman (since the author is Australian and the book was initially set there), so it took quite a bit of adjustment for me to get used to seeing the same story in an American setting. Sure you still had the divine Nicole Kidman representing the Aussies, but I worried that something could be lost in adaptation. My fears were completely unfounded as the show actually improved on the book in a number of ways. Many of the complexities were better illustrated in a visual medium than in a book.
lyannastarkweather it's hard to make a bad show with this all star cast, the story is just the icing on the cake. They found a way to show character development for every single character, even the supporting roles - all in one season. The soundtrack and cinematography were gorgeous, the screenplay was flawless. But the characters are what really did it for me, they are somehow so relatable when I have nothing in common with them at all. The school, the coffee spot, they all felt so real. Even down to the way they dress, it was just beautiful. This is a great example of using the film medium to its fullest extent, not wasting a single frame.
I only wish Bonnie's back story can be told more on screen. That would explain why she unhesitatingly helped Celeste.
姚澜 I think they left it out on purpose so they can explore it on season 2
姚澜 and also I wasn’t a fan of Madeline’s affair which they added in.
@Lyanna ( Stark Targaryen 😉) I saw the show and then read the book. Both are good, but I agree that the show, especially the last four episodes, was really outstanding.
Do you mind sharing your ideas about how the show improved on the book?
What a lovely, astounding performance from all of those women. That show was watched twice, eagerly and among friends.
There is no such thing as white privilege. Remember that.
John G.K. Rather there shouldn't be "white privilege".
This show was well made... everything from the script, storyline and production was well executed.... it has me wanting more... I recommend it!!!
And the music!!
I loved this show, but I honestly wish that it had been left as a limited one season series as originally planned instead of trying to find a way to continue it. Sometimes it's best to let go and move on.
H A We won’t know if it’s a bad idea until it comes out. I’m assuming or hoping the creators have more to say and it’s not just for money. It’s happened before where I’ve dreaded the continuation of a story but found the newer material to just as or even more compelling.
I know. I fear they destroy all these precious lessons from the season 1 and make everyone stay against each other (just like How to getting away of murder)
Tia Williams But there's no denying it's only for the money. There was only one book. Anything they add to the story is just useless fanfiction.
No I’m so glad There’s gunna be a season 2
The last parts of the novel set a year later to me is a great spring board for series 2 because of how the woman become bound by the event at the trivia night. There's material that hasn't been used from the book yet, Janes parents, bonnies family (which is being used in series 2) and Janes developing relationship with Tom.
Faved. Omg. I felt Celeste's words when she said that motherhood is not enough. That's where I'm standing right now.
Such a good, complex series. Exquisitely crafted in every way. I want to watch it again.
Great analysis!
You have got to talk about the other show Nicole Kidman was in 'Top of the Lake's both seasons of this show are incredibly well crafted, definitely worth the analysis.
I don't know why I cried watching this .. lol
I saw the shown in its entirety today and my god it's absolutely I credible. The acting is fantastic and the writing is something really beautiful to read. Honestly considering the recent controversy of all the sexual allegations popping up in the news, this show is one that women (and even men) SERIOUSLY need too watch
I've only seen the show but it's an interesting departure from the novel that Bonnie's mother is abusive to her rather than her father being abusive to her mother.
This essay is hands down one of the most profound yet realistic I've watched on CZcams. Great job, guys!
YAS! I loved this show and your analysis was spot on. I only wish this video was twice as long so you could've really gone in on a few pivotal scenes, especially the climax, also the music and cinematography are well worth discussing.
Can't wait to see your take on Merryl Streep's Mary Louise ;-)
This show like 13 reasons had me in tears during and at the end. I was in an abusive relationship at 20 with a slightly older guy and was going through what Celeste went through. Nothing came out till I finally moved home completely beat up and bruised in the face. Shows like this really are beautifully sad.
I'm tearing up watching this. This show was one of the best things I've ever watched and I think every woman show watch it. Thank you so much for this video.
Love the vocabulary, psychological terms, and phrases you use throughout your videos. Very impressed and pleased with the content.
I loved your analysis of Renata's character arch in particular. Inspired me to post a video comparing the character of Renata to the characters of Nora (Marriage Story) and Marmee (Little Women). Thank you for the continually original and insightful content!
Just finished the show today and I'm so glad to discover Take doing a video essay on this!
thank you for making such great and content!!
Your videos are always SO GOOD
Awesome video keep it up the films and series that are show cased are insightfull and the break down of character development is amazing I show friends this channel when talking about a film or series
Great analysis of a brilliant show. I watched it after I saw your analysis. Thanks!
ScreenPrism I love you SO much!!
Please do a video for “The Witch”🙏🏼
(And also Houses Martel, Arryn & Tully) 😉
Lathan - Kyle Hell yeah, The Witch is awesome 👍
YES, a video for The Witch would be amazing
Lathan - Kyl
dawngrrrl the
Lathan - Kyle
Your analysis is so great. It’s so enlightening to see a show so full of symbolism.
Excellent work!
Gonna check out the show now thanks you you guys! Keep up the great content!
The only thing I dislike about the show is Madeline's adultery. If it were not for her infidelity to her loyal, supportive husband, I would root for her.
I rooted for her because she clearly realized how deeply she had fucked up and expressed real remorse. That alone is worth rooting for and forgiving, imo.
If you haven't read the novel, you should. Madeline loves and adores Ed very very deeply there. There was one scene in the book where Perry and Ed where walking side by side and Madeline was admiring how handsome Perry looks, and then looking at Ed and falling in love with him even more, becos even when he stood next to Perry, she knew she'll still pick Ed no matter what. When I watched the series I was FURIOUS of how they changed Madeline into a cheater.
@@danegonzales5651 yea it made no sense too. Its like they only added that to create drama. Also Madeline had so much more charm and charisma in the book than was shown by her TV counterpart.
Book Madeline would never cheat on Ed
Jesus christ you guys deserve to make it big. Such great content.
I love what you're doing. Keep up the good work 😊
Luv it!!! Thanks for sharing
whilst subscribing only for GOT, I binged on this and only some moments were worthwhile...the ending was beautiful in how it all brought them together, but really the acting from those ladies is brilliant and that beach and sounds is what keeps me coming back... now to watch your video and prob will enjoy it
It feels like Desperate Housewives meet Pretty Little Liars with amazing award winning cast...
Really? I felt those shows were addictive but not written with any purpose.
This show was way better than those two
I would even say a masterpiece
So happy I clicked on this video.
Great video. You verbalised my thoughts about the show in a way that I could not.
I LOVE THIS SHOW! Thank you for this.
yes i love u guys for doing big little lies and all of the vids i saw SO COOOOLL !!!!!!!!!
They billed this as what used to be called a "comedy-drama" now a dramedy and the whole time I'm,watching like, "...not seein' the funny."
It is definitely not funny...
I agree, it's not funny but it did have some funny moments, particularly from Renata " ..make sure you mention that my daughter was almost in a coma " as Madeline was getting up to speak to the parents in the Auditorium....I replayed that part a few times because Renata is just beyond dramatic! Love her,!
That's because comedy in literature doesn't mean funny.. it means that's the a big majority of main characters end up happy.. like The Merchant of Venice and Tempest.
Tradegy on the other hand is where they don't.. like Macbeth or Hamlet
great vid!! just finished BLL (both seasons) so i was thrilled to see this in my recommended c:
Here after the passing of Jean Marc Valle. Such a terrible loss. He was an incredible director and a masterful editor.
Didn't think the show had such depths. A really great and insightful video!
I love the use of September Song as the intro
Beautiful series and very beautiful and deep analysis!!
it was about time!!!!
Coming back to watch this now they've announced Meryl Streep is going to star in Season 2!!!
Megan Have you saw the set pic with Madeline throwing ice cream at Perrys mother (Meryl Streep).
This series reminds me of the poem "Road Not Taken" wherein we often ask ourselves about what-ifs over not taking the other road.
Please do one for season 2 soon :)
The show did not put us against Bonnie. She was nice and likable from the start.
I’d say the whole pitting us against Bonnie is highly understandable when you have a high severely amounts of Madeleines insecurity because of her youth or that mainly it’s not her she’s hating on it’s rather the ex husband who’s probably picking something younger and hotter than you just to really piss her off and it’s clearly works
Ugh I love this channel
holyshit this was good. I gotta watch this show. the bit about Celeste really hit me hard about her finally sharing about her “her worst secret”. I’ve become so used to hiding my eating disorder and keeping up this facade that I’m perfectly fine and doing great with everything in life. But that’s so not true. shame hides in the shadows.
Wow loved it💕
I am going to watch this after the vid.
Jesse Rodriguez thats a good idea! I watched the show in one day and didn't regret it at all :)
That's a good idea to be spoiled of the best parts of the show before watching it. Yeah right... In fact, you should do this with every movie/serie you will watch in the future. I would have appreciated to know that the character of Bruce Willis is dead from the beginning when watching for the first time The Sixth Sense. That's the best way to enhance a cinematic experience.
The book is so great, anyone who has seen or wants to watch the show you should read it as well!
Such a beautiful show..teaches us that not everything that seems to be perfect is actually perfect..deals with serious issues like rape mental and physical abuse and infidelity..this show starts with the women hating each other to supporting each other and understanding each otherr..I lovee it..the characters acting story visuals plus the soundtrack is soo good 💕
I need the name of the first song in the video!
This show isn't my cup of tea, but anything this Screen Prism narrator talks about sounds delightful.
USArmyMedic 1 honestly if you haven’t watched it I highly recommend it. The viewer makes such an amazing connection with each character and is emotionally invested in each even though the series is only 8 episodes
So masterpieces aren't your cup of tea?
David Jensen you mean 7
I get how people might have a preconceived notion about this show, but I'd also recommend it. I was blown away.
Looks like we found an abuser
I liked Bonnie from the jump, but RWP aren't really my favorite, so...
I did think she was a bit of a Pollyanna at first...
this is goooooood
I love Renata. I get Jane's frustration as well but if some kid was constantly hurting my daughter, I wouldn't stand for it either. Especially if I felt the kid and the mother weren't taking responsibility and helping to improve the situation. Yes, it wasn't Ziggy in the end but Renata had no reason to believe it wasn't and Madeline threw gasoline on the fire because she was jealous of Renata's success.
Madeline is a Karen in disguise and owes more apologies than anyone in the group. She treated both Bonnie and Renata badly.
The first season of big little lies is absolutely fantastic, i literally binged watched it all in a day , I’ve only ever seen 2 episodes of season 2 I wasn’t feeling it , should I finish it off because some people we’re telling me it’s terrible
I actually disagree about S1 ending. The closing of the lighter signifies the detective has given up. S2 wasn't planned so it makes sense because the lighter represented the unfulfilled investigation, it implied the fire would be lit eventually when all was revealed but it wasn't because it didn't matter.
Can you do a movie about “Call me by your name” please
All these actors are my favourite......reese....meryl streep.....shailene....zoe.....nicole....
Well, for me Renata was the "antagonist" for way she deal with all the situation and mistreat Jeannne since the begging, instead to act as a reasonable person. While Madelaine made a lot mistake but could "dislike" her because her friendship was to pure, but I agree the story give us more reasons why to don't like Madalaine than Renata.
Great ABSOULUTEYLY LOVE IT
.IDONT CARE ABOU THE SPELLLING BECAUSE I RARELY TYPE IN YOIUTUBE
Screen prism should show the lessons we learn from Dexter and girl boss
You guys, at the end of the last episode, is someone watching them? Who do you think it is?
it's the detective
inosaurus it's gotta be considering the consistent sound of the lighter
But most importantly: sorority ❤️❤️
Tbh i liked renata and bonnie since the beginning
What is that piano song in the first 3 seconds?
NVM Agnes Obel - September Song, didn't think shazam could get a small clip like that
I actually never hated any of the female characters they are all amazing and show us all the personalities within women.
How was Jane able to afford that school for her son. She's a young single mom.
ijeleo92 All the kids go to a public school.
It was a public school that's why everyone moved there, for the schools
in America schools are funded by property taxes. So wealthy neighborhood with big houses from the white picket fences variety can have really well funded public schools
I wish they would've had Janes family appear like they did in the novel to maybe explain how she could afford to move and start a new life.
@@timothyw98 how is her family like in the novel?
I’m still kind of pissed that this show won the Emmys instead of Feud: Bette and Joan. But this video made me feel better about it.
Will you do an analysis of "Girls"?
not relevant to this video, but are we ever gonna get rest of those The Wire videos as promised? after you guys dropped your McNulty video, I started to re-binge the series in anticipation.
Hey, yes they are still coming! Thanks for your patience. It will just be a couple more weeks till the next. We're doing our best to get them to you as soon as possible. Enjoy re-binging The Wire in the meantime!
You need to make an ASMR channel 😂😂
If you haven't watched this show already then you're really missing out!
i fucking loved this show, reading the book right now
I choose to be positive.
This show is great, but I wish there was more diversity and representation, bonnie's storyline could've been exploring being a black woman in a systematically white society, I hope if they made a season 3, they bring more black, asian and hispanic males and females.
How come never came to Perth.
I read the book and I couldn’t make it through the first episode, it’s corny 😩 Shailene Woodly was the perfect choice because she’s so annoying just like Jane 🤣🤣 Love Reese but I expected more :( love this video though
Very positive and upbeat music for a darkish show. I haven't watched, I'm just going on assumption
But what about Meryl Streep in Season 2...?
It is a great message and I loved the show but the truth is that it is not realistic. In reality, letting other people's know things like this hardly ever result in help and new friends and more often leads to more judgement and abandoned, things are taken out of context and used against u and the whole community will just get you down further in that hole. That often includes doctors and therapists
yay
Please, make a video about the Americans. Please, please. You will like it!
Madeline was good until she cheated and could not realize the amazing man she had. . Her daughter had issues. Honestly. Teenagers are something.....
Bonnie?
I think a couple of episodes in I knew it was Eric Northman that did that to Jane and fathered her child. Yes... he will always be Eric fucking Northman to me.