The Devil Wears Prada: Miranda Priestly - A Defense of Perfectionism
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- Sign up for Skillshare: skl.sh/thetake56 | Is Miranda Priestly (Meryl Streep) actually "the devil" in The Devil Wears Prada? Is she wrong in trying to be perfect? Her pursuit of excellence actually makes her a role model for working women, and we can all use a touch of Miranda in our professional lives -- that is, of course, if you’re willing to pay the price of perfectionism. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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Please do jude law in the young pope next :((((((
You guys need to do a video on euphoria please 😁
@The Take - this video is a joke right? This woman's abuse is being excused and her villainy portrayed as good
@BLAIR M Schirmer not a ''bad written'' character. Miranda is written perfectly as a villain.
If I’m not mistaken at the end Nate is dating someone else and Andy is happy for him. She does end up in her dream job. I guess that’s the happy ending.
"Don't raise your voice, improve your argument."- Ruth Bader Ginsburg
A shame how so many of her supporters only scream at those they disagree with.
But if you know your audience, you would realize some people won't respond to a calm voice. You MUST scream to get through to them.
Love that!
@Fuert Neigt lololol
*Did you know in Japan, it's legal for 13 year olds to have sex with adults?*
There're even legalized institutions there that hook old fat middle aged married men with young schoolgirls. Hilarious!
But what can you expect from a country where women are forced to use a separate pronoun (watashi) from males (boku) to refer to themselves lest they be seen "arrogant," and the word for husband is "Shujin" which literally means "Master," or a place where they recently ruled a few months back raping a drugged up woman does not count as rape because "she did not explicitly say 'no.'" And a drugged up reporter last year iirc get dragged into a motel by their hair by the editor in chief and he gets to walk free despite even the whole ordeal was filmed by a security camera?
The scene I always think about in this movie is when Andy gave expensive presents to her friends that she got because of her job and they all loved them BUT a few minutes later when she got a phone call from work they stole her phone and were being rude by not giving it back even though they’re receiving benefits from her working there. That scene always pissed me off because of how selfish her friends were
They were assholes in that scene. Get new friends.
Same!
ikr?? They want the perks but then makes fun of her "superficial" and "unimportant" job. The hypocricy. Somehow this reminds me of men (and just people in general) who enjoy porn, pole dancing etc. but also slut-shame women in these occupations. Like, what exactly do you want??
Elizabeth Zelaya yeah exactly
Ikr, that in thar exact scene, I was pissed off.
Yall notice how a woman aiming for perfection in her professional life makes her the devil, the known villain of a story, while if a man does it, he's usually the protaganist of that story.
No? That usually means it's their fatal flaw. Like it was for Miranda here.
Mhm, even the protagonist points it out in the movie
@@3Katapa male ambition is painted as a fatal flaw? 🤔 getting ambitious is usually the “act 3” development for male protagonists as they lock into what they want to do and let nothing stand in their way. Rising up to be no.1 in their field is celebrated for men, and domestic life is most definitely placed lower. Look at any sports movie just for an example.
But they are usually asshole characters as well.
@@alfredinho3696 i was literally thinking about Michael Douglas as Gordon Gekko too haha
Reminds me of when one of my friends entered some very selective medical school and she said "guys i intend to give 1000% to these studies, that means i won't be able to see anyone until next summer except maybe my family on christmas and that's it, i love you all but the competition is so extreme i can't get any distraction" and we were ALL like Guuurl no problem! no worries! let's have one last party at the beach or something and then we'll say bye until next summer! And we did that and we just all focused on our own studies really hard and no one complained like "you weren't there for me/ you don't call as often/you changed" or any of that bs, we just gave each other a call/text on our birthdays and it was enough, no one was mad! And we were all even more happy to see each other again at the end of the year, we're all still friends after years, that's why i was really confused when watching this movie, if this were my friends and i were Andy they would have been like "Girl shut up why are you even apologizing?? Oh wait is that your boss calling?? quick answer your phone!! no wait go to the bathroom it'll be more quiet!!" And after she said she had to leave , they would have been like "Then why are you still here?? *slap butt* run bitch run!! Be careful not to get hit by a car though!" They didn't deserve Andy honestly
@@normandy2501 friendship knows no time or physical distance
Putting career... before you relationships? Groundbreaking
@@normandy2501 some friendships really withstand absolutely everything. and sometimes, people are confident that their friendships have that strength, so they're okay with doing things like choosing career over relationships, because they know the friendship WILL withstand it.
I wish my friends were like that. Like we could all be busy and someones like "y'all are ignorant." not even giving us a chance to explain. I wish it was balance.
@@sof3304 wtf
Florals... for spring? Groundbreaking
I didn't understand this. Can you explain please?
@@preranapradeep3963 A floral pattern features flowers, which are commonly associated with the spring season. So when she says its "groundbreaking", it's really just a sarcastic reply to something incredibly overdone. Like wow, florals for spring? what an original idea.
@@juliansew thank you!
@@preranapradeep3963 Slow signal?
"By all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that THRILLS me."
The ending with her apologising to her boyfriend pissed me off.
Me too! Leave the whinny mofo behind, girl! Upgrade him!
ugh same! what an I considerate douche
No, she was being distant. If the roles were reversed, you'd be saying he is an uncaring douche that doesn't value their relationship 🙄
He was such a bum
@@SugarHoneyIceTea90 you don't know that at all. You don't even know what his job was. This movie was focusing around her life, not his. You can't just assume he's a bum based on the genuine lack of evidence.
i'm just gonna say that we need a backstory for Miranda to see how hard she had to work and what she had to give up to become the boss we know.
actually, that’ll be interesting.
oh please, dont ruin something perfect. who is going to be the young Miranda? What we need a sequel, with a new Assistant! Emily Blunt could either be on the same post or she is the new Editor in Chief.
LFT How Emily became Emily would be more interesting... So Miranda dont have to be some young Cruela.
@@eduardochavacano oooh a better idea indeed 😊
We have some details of her past in the book, being brought up in a poor English home by parents who were dedicated Orthodox Jews. She worked in Paris runway for ten years before becoming editor at American runway, and she’s the youngest out of eleven siblings!
Apparently, she had a really strong cockney British accent, too.
I would love to see more details of her, so I completely agree.
I feel like a lot of people forget one big thing, Miranda loves her daughters. Her main worry in the divorce is how it will affect them over her. The impossible tasks she sets Andy are to please her children, not her. I think that's really sweet.
understandable, though I doubt new special book equals happy child.
Using someone to do your job as a mother? Really sweet.... Point is she knew very well she is an absent mother cause of her work and feel for it but it's all thanks to her job.
Miranda may be cold to the rest of the world, but she is still warmth and loving to her family especially her twin daughters.
It’s not really a bar to love your own kids. She can’t even do anything for her own children but is always making someone else do it. She knows her absence from their lives and their lack of a stable father figure hurts them but she continues anyway, because ultimately the job is more important than them.
@@lucykoelle6602bingo.
To be fair I think Cruella De Vil's major sin was wanting to kill puppies.
If she weren't a smoker, it would be her only sin. She was very encouraging of Anita.
MsBettyR. Which movie are you talking about?
@@papr1kaboo hahaha
@@vulbvibe the 101 Dalmatians live action film that came out like 20 years ago
Cruella De Vil's mistake was openly admitting that. If she had quietly gone to a puppy mill and grabbed a bunch noone would have cared that much. heck, Anita admits that she likes herself some furs... where does she think fur comes from if not from cute animals with nice coats :facepalm:
What is worst than having a perfectionist boss is to have mediocre, disorganized and still quite selfish people over you at work.
thats why I hate the monitor lizard lady way more than Ton in Aggretsuko
A wise statement.
Both situations are awful. People don't have to be either perfect or mediocre, there is a middle ground for everything in life, specially leadership.
César Abraham Castañeda Valencia
Amen 😄
César Abraham Castañeda Valencia
A demanding boss at least allows for growth - if you’re willing, to put in the work. The kind of boss you’re referring to (which I‘m all too familiar with) just makes everyone miserable without even the boon of success and recognition as a carrot.
The incredible double standard women face is appalling, and I DESPISE the fact that Andy apologized to Nate and got back together with him. Andy's intent wasn't to work there forever, she asked for ONE YEAR. That's it. That's all Nate had to tolerate, and he sulked and guilted her for putting him in a position that women are CONSTANTLY put in and expected, if not demanded to be supportive, encouraging and patient in when, objectively, women have less time to wait during their fertile years.
How many guys go off to join the military, and how many girls and women are treated like monsters for not waiting for them when training and initial service often takes YEARS of absenteeism? Basic training takes months, then onto Land/Soldier Qualification, then onto their trades course. None of which they are allowed to live outside of barracks where their families are not permitted. Then, an expected move (which the woman is expected to go along with, education, career or family be damned), only for the guy to be sent off on a tour that's at least 6 months, but can go up to 3 years!
Now imagine all that, but many girls/women find themselves baby trapped during that time too! Hard to leave a guy after you had a couple of kids with him before he bothered to tell you he's up and joining the army. If his boss was framed like Miranda, it would be "Oh wow, so organized, so driven", yet this point is MOCKED in the movie when Andy points out the double standard.
Miranda isn't a "good person", but who TF cares? Andy wasn't there to work forever, it was ONE year, and she was there to learn from objectively, the best. The skills she taught Andy were not only attention to detail, but something called "implicit tasks/orders". It's obvious to many that if I tell you to make scrambled eggs, I expect that you will not expect me in turn to hold your hand through buying the eggs, using the stove, or getting a pan, through making the eggs, and plating.
Andy was shown to absolutely master anticipated direction, and implicit tasks in the "Harry Potter" scene. She not only got the copy, but made one for each kid, had them bound, dropped off to the girls for their train ride etc. all without being told, because she was able to think ahead. Those skills are VITAL in leadership positions.
Anyways, long rant short, Nate and Andy's friends were trash. Women are expected to support men during trying periods while building their education and careers, but DWP comes down on a gross double standard.
Underrated comment.
UP!
This. *THIS* comment is everything. And I love the way you described it. Maybe you could consider a journalism career for yourself?:P
Okay... Let me be your supportive house husband who lives with you while you work to pay most of the bills.
That's it : think ahead
Emily Blunt played her role so well. She's an incredible actress, but I really loved her in this.
The whole cast killed it. I could feel everything they felt
She has such an intimidating expression.
YES!! “Wish me luck!” “Shan’t 😒” lmaooo I loved her
I just didn’t understand why the critical, unsupportive friends & boyfriend are the good guys while the boss that helped her understand & appreciate her own beauty & the importance of giving her all to her career is the bad guy.
Agreed
Totally agree
Then I recommend you watch it again.
Your boss can achieve the same outcome without being a jerk
YES!!
Because people don’t like when you succeed over them. They don’t like that you put them in front of a mirror to show them that they abandoned their dream / or are too lazy .
Her boyfriend is a chef so he should understand high demand jobs. Smh.
Except chefs stop working once the restaurant is closed. Andy worked 24/7 at Miranda’s whim. He didn’t like that, which is a fair critique of her job.
Oh come on! The number of times I heard ' if he can't make time for you he doesn't care enough! Dump his ass!" If a guy works too much it's perfectly normal for society and especially women to criticize him about how he is neglecting his relationship, family etc. If a girlfriend is feeling neglected or like she has to fit in HIS schedule then obviously she is wronged. But a guy can't feel like that? It makes him a villain? I don't think so.
He dated her before her demanding job- the change alone would be an adjustment, the disappointments and excuses would be an issue and finally her dismissing his feelings all together instead of even trying to be more of an actual partner to him, show he was right to cut her loose. He was not only unhappy with how she dismissed and treated him, but also disliked who she was becoming. He was 100% in the right and it's weird to me people would want him to be in an unhappy relationship with a person that barely remembers he exists just so what? so she wouldn't need to make any kind of effort in her relationship? No.
It's a bit better in the second book were andy dates a guy called max who is very supportive
As someone who works in a high stress restaurant but on the front of house side. Work does not end when we are outside of the job, if anything that’s the only time admin is done.
@Máté Safranka preach it
Loved this, but Christine Lagarde is way more than a French lawyer. She's the President of the European Central Bank and was the MD of the International Monetary Fund, literally one of the most powerful women in the world.
Wow, amazing fact. Thanks for that.
Oh shit. I thought her name was familiar. She helped put Greece into a inescapable debt.
Yeah another neoliberal powerful woman
I was wondering why they would base her look off of a 'random lawyer. That makes a TON more sense
In 2005, Christie Lagarde was just a famous lawyer.
The panic before Miranda arrives at work is literally my dad arriving home
It is so sad the way some parents terrorise their families with their rage. It is typical of an individual who is a narcissist.
@@mariamkarjiker301 Exactly. This your dad…not some random stranger invading your home. This is all backwards culture
I can relate --my siblings and I would anticipate an uneventful, restricted weekend because our dad came home.That's part of the reason why the ccl of this video (excellent people don't have to be nice) feels at best ambiguous, at worst not a really healthy takeaway. I don't really understand why we would need to look up to narcissists, male or female...
@@mariamkarjiker301 so true
@@clairestz1328 I 100% identify with this. However, there's a huge difference between this being your home life, and then going to work at a job with world class standards. One is imposed on you without your consent and one is sought after.
The devil wears a sulk when his girlfriend is succeeding in her career
@ThePabloSylar why? If Andy wants to put her carrier above her friends and family that's her choice. Sounds rough but have you ever seen a movie, where the head manager of a huge cooperation was shamed for not being home enough and not caring about his family enough? No, he's a tough man and he wants to climb the career ladder. But when Andy does it she's selfish. And made fun of, cause the field she's in is feminine and not publicly accepted to be real work. And her friends and family in their narrow mindset do not even consider to support something that is obviously Andy's dream. They shame her for perusing her career. They ARE wrong. And shitty people they are too.
@@akirachinatsuken ikr! and when the boyfriend criticized her for dressing fashionably. Like, dude, that's part of her job! I remember being so pissed when I saw that part of the movie
@@JadeCaro yes!
But he was right and andy quits ar the end
@@lochofmceo just because she quit doesn't mean he was right? Like???
I don't think that Miranda represents the evil of a career woman.
I think that she represents how damaging and dehumanizing some industries can be, at any level.
I agree. Miranda is patterned for the type of people, men and women, that's on top of their game in their industry. They've all gotten bad press and been "misunderstood" by many... in the end, they just don't care what others think about them.
She's not nice, she's not good, she's just right.
@@IsomerMashups Youuuuu're so NICE ! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE ! ;)
Jokes appart, Miranda is pretty miserable in the movie.
She is going throught a very public divorce.
I agree. Though, in order for a mentee to really learn from this kind of boss, she/he should have a high level of Emotional Quotient. Talk about being degraded in every single way. I also had this kind of boss in the past in an industry I hated (but I needed the job). Every single day at work is hell. But at the end of my career in that company, I appreciated the lessons I gained. However, I no longer wanted to work for this kind of boss in the future.
I agree. Though, in order for a mentee to really learn from this kind of boss, she/he should have a high level of Emotional Quotient. Talk about being degraded in every single way. I also had this kind of boss in the past in an industry I hated (but I needed the job). Every single day at work is hell. But at the end of my career in that company, I appreciated the lessons I gained. However, I no longer wanted to work for this kind of boss in the future.
Miranda is also a self oriented perfectionist. The reason that she has such high standards is because she has higher standards for herself. People forget that she was born into poverty and crawled her way to the top by working her ass off. She worked so hard to become EIC and she didn't have her job handed to her (like Andy). People often make the assumption that bosses like Miranda didn't work hard to get where they are. I can only imagine the amount of stress Miranda is under, and based on her childhood, there is no room for failure. The pressure she puts on herself reflects onto her staff. Miranda is not the bad guy.
I agree that Miranda is not the bad guy, but what do you mean by "people forget she was born into poverty and crawled her way to the top?" Who in the audience is forgetting? The movie never said any of that about Miranda's backstory. Please explain where your information comes from. We don't know if she grew up poor, she could have been born rich and went to ivy league college or inherited the company from someone else. What if the job was handed to her? Not saying it was, but my point is you can infer a hypothesis or extrapolate ideas, but you can't just make stuff up as if it were part of the actual story.
Clearly, Miranda has spent decades building up this magazine to be successful and she has the unenviable task of doing three jobs in one. She has to be a business manager, killing autumn jackets wasting hundreds of thousands in order save millions of dollars in advertising revenue. She also has to be fashion forward, predicting the future without ripping off other ideas they've already done (ie "we did that two years ago"), and she has to be the final arbiter of taste. Anyone can throw together pieces of fabric and call it "fashion" or "art."
And along comes this young millennial know it all, who can't even be bothered to do basic research on the company she's interviewing for, and pushes back against everyone who tries to help her, while acknowledging she is totally unqualified for the job. I would never hire someone who didn't want to be there, on the hopes that maybe someday they would change their attitude. When all is said and done, she flat out abandons her job and doesn't even put in two weeks notice, yet somehow gets a glowing recommendation. How long will it be at her new journalism job until she walks out of that one too? Like you said, Miranda is not the bad guy. Maybe, just maybe, Andy is the real antogonist here.
@@vincentcerasoli5969 Miranda had a rags to riches story, it was in the book. Looks like you are the one who didn't research.
@@ridaashraf4919 First piece of advice, trolling will get you nowhere if you wish to be taken seriously. Second, I highly recommend you watch the above video if you haven't already. Miranda's backstory is never motioned in the film. This video is about the film not the book. There is no such thing as a film that is a carbon copy of a book.
Finally, go back and read the comments again. I'm AGREEING with this person, Miranda is not the bad guy. Andy is the antagonist. The point is NOT how many people in the audience read the book (most people don't), but rather how much our perspectives evolve over the course of our lifetimes as we change and mature. THAT's what makes this a genius film, NOT the source material in the book. In undergrad, I never questioned the idea that Miranda was the antagonist and Andy was the protagonist. Most people that age feel the same. But once you get out in the real world and work in a job for a decade or two, you go back and realize it was actually Miranda who is the hero here. A truly great film will help you evolve and grow as a person because you can find new meanings in the message, and sometimes reinterpret it as you get older and more mature.
That's what you would understand if you thought about it with more nuance and depth instead of unsuccessfully attempting to troll me or own me.
In other words, try to keep up next time.
It was never mentioned in the movie that she came from poverty. Maybe it was from the books but not in the movie and it is not fair to assume someone does or someone should when the video itself is based on the movie miranda.
@@vincentcerasoli5969 But Andy seems nice.
You know, I never got the whole betrayal of Emily thing. Miranda basically said she'd be fired if Andy didn't go. Miranda is the boss and of she doesn't want to take Emily, she isn't going to. So how was Emily betrayed?
Exactly. Emily was just being salty cuz Andy has proved she's a lot better.
I think Miranda’s point was that Andy put her own career above Emily’s dreams, who at that point, Andy viewed as a friend. Miranda did the same thing and put her career above Nigel’s dreams. Andy felt that Miranda should have stepped down rather than betray Nigel, but she didn’t step down rather than betray Emily.
I think its a fair comparison between the choices made by Andy and Miranda. Both of their careers' were on the line and they betrayed their colleague/friend by crushing their dreams to save it. Its a test of loyalty to the other person, they both failed by being selfish and did what they had to do to save themselves.
I still love how after all that Andy made a move to make things right with Emily. That scene where she sends her clothes to Emily is so cute. Their dynamic made me smile every time.
Well, it was Miranda's decision all right - so strictly speaking she should have called both girls to her office and communicated that decision to them. What she chose to do instead was to tell Andy that SHE was to tell Emily about that decision. In this way, she makes Andy to be the agent of Emily's demotion rather than herself - on the morning after the charity event, she throws her coat and bag on Emily's table instead of Andy's which suggests she considers Andy to be first assistant now. She has probably noticed on that evening that something like a friendship was developing between Andy and Emily and she wanted to crush that - she wanted to teach Andy that in order to get on in this world, you sometimes also need to trample on other people, notwithstanding they are your friends.
"why is no one reeeadyyyyy" lmaoo
belencita best line uttered !
🏃🏻♀️💨
I love that part too.
And that's why I hate dubbing, they just missed that detail when they said it in Spanish
I was about to comment that this is one of my favorite lines from the movie.
"Please, by all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me."
- A legend
HA-HA
My constant go-to line!!!!
My favorite line too.
OMG! I get this in MIAMI daily, makes me crazy.
I didn't understand this. Can you explain please?
*i PRAY i never end up with a group of friends and a boyfriend/partner/husband like that*
Then don't. There are WAAAAAY too many people in this world to surround yourself with trash. Know your worth.
same nate and the friends are disgusting i’d ditch them if i were in andy’s place
Don't worry. If you display a hypermasculine personality like that, few men will be interested in you, and they will dump you before long. Just as is illustrated in the movie with repeated divorces.
Women can make men of themselves, but those same women don't want feminine men, and masculine men wont have them for long.
Of course you can have a fuck with a man when you like, but be prepared to die alone.
That part where you ladies point out how the whole "work a year for Miranda and you can work anywhere" might really have less to do with Miranda's brand value than it does with how competent you're forced to become when you work for her was mindblowing to me. I had never caught onto that.
I hated Andy's insecure boyfriend
I love how all the characters in this story are incredibly flawed. I think the only exception might be Nigel who ends up - rather unexpectedly - as the proverbial sacrificial lamb. Even though he starts out a tad unlikable your heart breaks for him in the end. I don't think I've seen a story like his ever since and I think that it's an important lesson we can all learn: no matter how much you fight the good fight you could very well still end up the loser. Oh and yeah, the bf is annoying as all hell! Same goes for the unnecessarily mean friends.
@@illneverbeyourdreamgirl I totally agree. I feel like Emily is a better friend.
I think her personal life bogs down the film. I skip through it.
@@valentinomiller6251 Exactly! Working in the magazine is so frantically glamorous that when she's back with them it's like oh yeah, she's an American who hangs out with regular people who lead boring lifes...
Was he wrong though? you cant have a relationship without investing time in it. When one parter changes so much of their values it feels like you are not in relationship with the same person anymore and she did end up sleeping with someone else. So...it makes one think whether all this hatred towards Andy's boyfriend isnt also societal pressure into the new feminist views.
Miranda isn't the devil here. It's Nate and Andy's friends.
Agreed
Oh yeah
Agreed!
nah abusive bosses aren't really all that funny, she's funny cause she's not insulting you 24/7 but rather a doormat called andy
@@birbwho Did you even watch the video?
While I agree with several parts of this video, I assume it's mostly work obsessed Americans who think a boss like her is a good boss. Where I live, it's illegal to get an email or call from work outside of working hours.
She also body shames in several occasions and has absolutely no concern for people's feelings or personal circumstances. Demanding good performance is not equal to belittling people. There are better ways.
Ya i understand..this kind of work environment is not okay for a long term..but for a year it's good i feel cause it's gona bring out the best in you..
edit: and yes bodyshaming is not acceptable at any cost..
EXACTLY!! A boss like that should never be tolerated. It’s not good for your mental health. Idk why people are glorifying her character :/
@@cheechee6473 right. Even ify ou are an assistant, getting phone call outside your working hours unless its stated in the contract are a no-no. In our office when its 4pm thats it. Everybody leaves work behind. Lets assume she is on the call assistant, its fine because she gets paid for it but the streesful enviroment is very bad for people. she could theach her everything she did without this cold attitude. and lets be honest. She was often very rude.
@@cheechee6473 no one is glorifying her. Yes she exploits her assistants and belittles people BUT we're saying she's not all devil. All characters in this movie are more or less grey, that's what makes it interesting.
True !
If Andy had been as assertive with Nate as she was with Miranda, she might have set a more revolutionary standard.
I love this film, i only hate how the selfish friends and boyfriend are played as the good guys. Miranda may not be an objectively good person, but what her pressure brings out of Andy is incredible. I think everyone going into a field they're passionate about has an experience like that, and it's important to: that pressure shapes you into who you want to be. It makes you reassess goals, if the job is truly what you want. It makes you ready for the failures and hits.
I'm sorry but Andy was pretty neglective of her boyfriend it's not her fault of course that she has to work 24/7 it's Miranda and the fact that pple think it's normal to work that long but it's horrible dating someone that probably forgot you existed no matter what the reason is you can't expect him to shut up and except his unhappy releshinship he has with her
@ferrod liles That's a profound way of thinking about it. I like it.
@@Rose-cq3bf Not necessarily, Nate and her so called friends were really being unreasonable. They sure loved getting presents from her work but hated that she had to work?
@Big Potato What was selfish was that they were kind of holding her back. They all knew her goal was to become a journalist. This is how she had to get there. Its not her fault if it requires time away from them.
@@darkshadowstorm7056 bruh everyone likes getting presents liking her presents that she herself is offering has nothing to do with her job
"Is there some reason my coffee isn't here? Has she died or something?" Always cracks me up
Amber Tirbhowan me too 😂😂😂
What I say is that if Miranda is in the way to be a coffee drinking habit why doesn't she have a coffee maker at the office with all the power and income she projects. It'd be a shame by the same way to make Andy a waitress at the office if she was already a coffee delivery girl.
You have to give Miranda several things, and one of them is her wit.
I love the outtake where she says “has she gone to Rwanda for the beans?”
She can always get her own coffee.
Andy won't be able to "have it all" with Nate anyway. The moment she starts to excel at her new job, he'll get attention-deprived again and will try to guilt her into choosing an unsupportive partner instead of her dreams, again. Hopefully this time she'll understand that the true problem is not her job, but her boyfriend and will break up with him.
I read above that she broke up with her boyfriend at the end of the book. I'm sticking with that in my mind. Movie director(s) probably wanted to give people who liked andy+nate an "happy ending" of some sort as to not leave them disappointed.
Cruella wasn't evil for being a career woman, she was evil because she literally wanted to kill innocent animals for clothing?
This
Yeah but this is a 1950's movie and they purposely gave her a career and queer coded her to associate those things with villainy
@@tyriaxepheles7996 what are you actually talking about?
@@imbroke1992 Go google the concepts? 😭 Why y'all so helpless
@@user-nv7uq3zj5e I know what the concepts are, dipshit. I just have no clue how they relate to this movie or the original comment, especially since Cruella wasn’t exactly “queer-coded”. She never expressed an interest in romance with anyone in general. I don’t see how that makes her queer-coded, so it’s definitely reaching.
Meryl Streep was truly the perfect choice to play the boss from hell, although it's established that she can play ANYONE!😄 Plus, the more I watch this movie, the less I sympathize with Andy's friends. They criticize her for dressing nicer, even though she has to make an effort when she's working at a fashion magazine, toss her phone around when her boss is calling, and her boyfriend gets upset when she misses his birthday, even though she had no real control over it. Andy definitely deserved better pals!😤
Trina Q yup
They have a sort of ‘just quit’ idea which made sense when I was a teen but now... I think they were just jealous. I mean, what do they think would happen in any career? Plus it’s New York... she’d have been homeless in weeks
I always said that I didn't care for them. Especially that scene where they were tossing her phone back and forth. IRL, you would never do something like that to a friend because as an adult, you realize that is your friend's JOB and know that if they got fired, YOU should take care of them because you caused it. Love the movie 😍 but they always irked me a little!
Plus they were happy to take bags and gifts that Andy got from work, but were completely ungrateful for it!
Yeah pretty much everyone in this movie is a horrible person.
By all means move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me 🙄
Haha that's my favorite line and I say it in the car all the time!
That's my favorite line!
california gurls! I love your pfp
I use it all the time
I heard this in my head in her voice😩😅😅😅
“Florals for spring, ground breaking” I had a flashback to my first year studying design
I still hate Andy’s boyfriend.
For valuing their relationship and having self-respect? Lol
@@jshell0771 for dismiss the work of her girlfriend when he knows that can be CRUCIAL in her career and also being happy whit her makeover but complain saying that she had change (something that had to happen with life)
@@karlareyes1671 when that work basically took ALL of her time and made her LITERALLY obsessed with it he had the full right to complain about it and her absence in their relationship at all. And secondly those "changes" were Andy becoming a person she have despised previously, it was more like a shadow of Miranda, not true Andy, which we see at the end of the movie - more confident, but with her own mind and values in life. How the hell can you call such transformation something that had to happen?
@@jshell0771 but if andy did not take the job, she would not have even gotten that job at the end where miranda wrote the reference letter for. she would not have that many job opportunities opened up to her if she didn't work for miranda. it was crucial to her career and the boyfriend should've grown up and been more supportive of her career. she was supportive of his career as a chef? he even got a promotion at the end. he has andy and the job he wants in the end.
also the job didn't even take all her time? she still had time to go to dinner with them, give them presents, cake and go to her friend's art museum or something. her friends and boyfriend were selfish as hell and expected too much from her. it was too much pressure for her and they should've been way more mature than they were in the film.
@@Neha-ue3uk it's not that she shouldn't have got the job, what bothers me is that you all are justifying miranda and demonizing her boyfriend. He was supportive of her at the beginning, but after she didn't show up at his birthday because of another Miranda's task after hours he didn't even make a scene, just was disappointed. The theme of the movie is choosing between work and private life, and i have no idea why you all are acting like you'd also support your bf/gf, if she didn't even have time for you. Her bf got the job, but you could see that he wasn't so overloaded with work and still had a decent amount of time for his gf. Sure Andy still managed to see her friends sometimes etc., but you could see that the more miranda relied on her, the less time she had for herself and the more she changed like a person into the image she despised previously, that's what made her reject miranda at the end. And such working hours is the reason why Miranda's marriage fell apart in the middle of the movie, it showed us that you can't dedicate most of your time to your job and hope that your relationship would still work. Her friends and boyfriend didn't put pressure on her, it was Miranda doing it all along because of her work ethic. And I don't blame her for it, i'm just irritated of everyone in the comments not seeing the point of the movie at all.
The Devil Wears A Chef's Hat
snatched wig OMFG YESSSS
The devil take freebies from working frnd and then act unsupportive
The devil acts clingy and possessive and doesn't like that Andy was starting to get passionate for her career and excelling in it
Gordon Ramsay? I mean he has Hell's kitchen.
Lol I'll never get how is it possible that Nate was a chef and yet had plenty of free time, especially in the nights, like, aren't you supposed to cook dinner in your restaurant?
"Florals? For Spring? Groundbreaking..." They could NOT have picked a better actor to play Miranda!
I didn't understand this line. Could you please explain
@@preranapradeep3963 haha me too😂 I can't relate what he talks about 😂
@@paradisekiss1893 I meant, the quote
@@preranapradeep3963 exactly! That's what I'm referring, why?
Flowery designs during spring is overdone and thus a grave sin for the fashion industry since it isn't anything original or groundbreaking.
*flies away*
did i cry when miranda seemed to be proud of andy? well, yes
She’s iconic, I used to be so obsessed with her but I can see now that perfectionism is toxic and she might be amazing at her job but she’s a tyrant and a bad leader.
Totally. She is a terrible manager and leader. She may be good at fashion but that's it.
@@marine463 Thank you and thanks to PaGus Music as well. Good to see not everyone has drunk the koolaid. When I worked at an automobile company, the scale of which is far more complex than that of a fashion magazine and where the margins are wafer thin, I did not see CEOs operate in the MP way. They were more like orchestra conductors, choosing the best products (compositions), the best talent (highly trained musicians) and then guiding rather than ordering them to success. MP is super talented about fashion but a poor people manager. That does not take away from the success of the real person on whom MP is based but it is horrible to use that success to whitewash the bad aspects of her management style or even elevate it as 'perfectionism'.
I have just finished the book and it reads very differently from the movie. I cannot help but wonder that with Streep possibly being a friend of AW as well as Hollywood in general fawning over her, they decided to rewrite it both as a favour to Vogue and to cover their own toxic 'geniuses', the sordid details of some of whom like the man Streep called The Punisher have now started to pour out.
Yes she can still be competent and perfectionistic in her work, at the same time work on cultivating more empathy. She doesn't have to be nice of course, just be good in some of her moral decisions, ie. Emily and Nigel. The last thing we want is a nice Miranda, no God please no hahaha.
Andy should’ve let her boyfriend go. She’d find another one, probably a better one as she grows as a woman. I think she was too good for him.
In the book, they actually broke up in the ending
@@braddyhyperchavz2335 thanks... She deserves better
@@braddyhyperchavz2335 yeet
...Or better still, a more successful one who would understand her struggle and be more than happy to help her succeed _and_ improve.
@A.M. M. Exactly her so called friends sure enjoyed those free presents they got but somehow didn't understand that she needed to work to further her career?
Everything I've ever tried to explain to people about why I adore this movie
I am actually emotionally moved by this video, which did an excellent analysis of the movie -- which was my work life at one point ...
Yep
Charlie yes yes yes
It's the only movie I've ever seen that's better than the book it was based on
"Even if we don't achieve perfection, we just might arrive at greatness."
Greatness doing something trivial for most of the very limited time we have here on Earth.
More like burn out.
I was both Andy and Miranda, and then I got major depression. I have liberated myself from that perfect images and am feeling significantly happier now. But still, those days taught me a lot about life and about myself. And I am grateful for it.
Chefs often work evenings & nights & many do prep work early-early in the morning. Nate being upset about her hours didn't make sense unless he said 'with your schedule & mine I barely see you' - but instead he comes across as a selfish brat.
This 💯
The way he is portrayed in the movie is like a childish brat, which he is.
Haha... true
I get him being sad at her missing his birthday party though, but he still should've been more understanding of her new situation.
That's why it's so weird, their hours are also whacked. And him being upset over her hours just confuse me. I think he's just one those plot accessory, not very well-thought out character.
I really hate how normalised woking overtime is. How it's expected in order to advance your career, or sometimes to keep it. My own manager told me he expects me to do a lot of more (unpaid) overtime if i expect a positive review from him. I hate this, i hate that society sees it as perfectly normal to be missing from your personal life for 12+hrs per day.
Looks like we share a manager. The whole city was flooded today and he asked me to explain why I can't come in.
@@kritianant9012 prolly he has an asshole client too I guess
I know the feeling. I think the only way to escape is to be a Miranda no matter what job position you're in. The self respect she saw in Andy, etc
This makes no sense. What is the point of stating working hours if you are expected to not stick to them? You need to review the Labour Law in your country/state and hit them with the facts next time they try to bully you. So long as you clock in on time, you have every right to leave on time. The state should be on your side.
So true. My first full-time job as a primary school teacher I was working 11 hours at school, followed by work at home and on the weekends. I later quit. Not a sustainable lifestyle at all yet somehow so common.
Meryl Streep's evergreen beauty literally amazes me
I may be heavily biased bc I love her so much, but she’s literally the most beautiful woman in the world
Being a terrible, controlling person should never be glorified. There are great leaders/teachers out there who encourage people to bloom their potential. It's all fun and games until someone commits suicide from that rotten attitude haha
who hurted you
@@ccurtonizea2883 Probably the reality that is in their comment.😅
true true
If you are young and able bodied, you must be exploited
@@Abhi-ex6uo wtf is that supposed to mean?
My favorite moment is when that one lady changes her shoes from some ugly ass sneakers to these really nice heels before Miranda shows up.
edit: okay they were clogs, not sneakers. i stand corrected
Mine too, it may have been a brief shot, but it already told us SO much about the intimidating, formidable Ms. Priestly just seconds before she made her first appearance!👠
it also sums up several paragraphs of information in the book in two seconds.
Technically, they were mules not sneakers!
For me it's the call Andy makes to Emily* to pass on the clothes, with their conversation in two levels. Sweet and cool.
*Thanks, Brookie. 😂
They were NOT sneakers!
I always disliked Nate.
Me too, he doesn't support Andy, whines that she's changing, and that he "misses the old Andy", and gets stroppy when she has to work late, and misses his birthday, even though she couldn't find anyone else to cover for her at the last moment.
He was below her on every level. They were going to divorce at some point, good thing they broke up.
Me too! If it was HIS career as a chef at a 5 star michilin restaurant he would be going up and beyond and expect Andy to lovingly support his goals but if she has the same work pace? Then she’s a saleout for some mind boggling reason 😤
@@aishalee5924 thank you!!! I've been saying it for years.
Except he's super hot
"What constitutes perfection is subjective" This is a huge statement.
You can demand a lot from your employees - in a positive, supportive way. I would not work for a person like Miranda, because I would not feel like I'm getting the support I need to do my best.
In reality, supportive, co-operative work environments produce the best results for any business. Competitive, hierarchical work environments have the opposite effect: they produce nothing but yes-men who either damage other people's work performance or hide important information from their colleagues that would help to achieve a goal - all to the detriment of the business they work for.
I do agree that, in our society, men get away with toxic behavior that women are chastised for.
Miranda wouldn't hire you anyway, so the joke is on you.
What I realized about Miranda is that she supportive, she is just incredibly subtle about it.
And vice versa. For each sex society has certain demands and allowances. They are just, mostly, different for each, doesn't mean the other has none.
As a company head let me tell you something. Sometimes compromise and being nice can lead to heavy depts and at last only attacks the leader. Sometimes being nice doesn't get you far cause people find a leeway to be lazy and not present their best. So, sometimes acting tough is the only way to get the damn work done in the BEST WAY POSSIBLE!
@@rimadaschakraborty8411 I would think people who choose to be lazy could be not/hire fired quickly so managers can devote time to dedicated employees.
I must admit, when I watched the film, I was both underwhelmed and pleasantly surprised by Miranda's portrayal. She's a really, really grounded character, and even though the movie tries to frame her as a devilish creature, I could never see her as more than a woman who knows her value and believes in other people's potential and in her own. She's just a demanding boss, and in the real world, that resembles not just the high standards someone in her position is expected to have, but also live up to.
Wendel Brito Absolutely but there is a much healthier way to approach those values without de-humanizing yourself or others.
SallyWind Agreed, you can’t just expect everyone to read your mind.
"She's just a demanding boss" - no, she is abusive, toxic and mean. Demanding and demeaning are not synonymous.
North americans seem to accept moral humiliation pretty easily. It's like their culture understand that is ok people with issues freely spill their emotional garbage onto others, like if it's not like someone really spill saliva on your face. It's not by chance that one usually come with the other.
That is also very revealling about their views when it came to international politics, after all, if it's ok to stomp freely onto others, how they could ever really respect other countries?
@@HDloly What the hell are you blabbering about? Miranda never humiliated anyone. She was merely blunt, not blatant. She doesn't like sugar-coating bullshit. If you can't handle the truth presented to you as it is, then that's on you.
I agree. Her character might be a little bit exaggerated but it is a spot on for someone in her position and capabilities.
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now, whenever i think of giving up with my job I'll think about Miranda Priestly. She's just that inspirational
The movie paints Miranda in a much more positive light than the book did. Her character in the book was an absolute monster who blamed others for every problem, no matter who was truly at fault.
Sounds like an incompetent asshole narc to me. 😂😂😂😂
"Details of your incompetence do not interest me." The end.
But it wasn't because of Emily's incompetence, it was because the stylist (?) was sick. Should the stylist have known she would be sick ahead of time? Should she have risked her health to meet Miranda's demands? I don't care who you are or how hard you've worked to get to where you are, entitlement to Miranda's scale is not acceptable
@@lotrfan8 Exactly.
@@lotrfan8 i agree she should be a bit nicer
@@aelius9907 is not even about being nice, but at least the bare minimum of human decency and respect
@@candelariagarlot8666 :(
Me watching this movie as a kid: the boyfriend is so cute though
Me watching this movie now: gross, leave, out of here
same
Book was better
God, same
@@milenasarkowicz3080 Were you reading the book?
same here
I think an interesting male equivalent can been drawn in J.K Simmons' performance in Whiplash. At the heart of his tyrannical tendencies and vitriolic method of getting things done is an innate desire for perfection in the music of his band. In the same way Miranda displays pride with Andy, so too does Fletcher with Andrew Neiman in the final performance of the film.
Just because someone is a genius and can get you far in life, does NOT mean they allowed to treat you and everyone else like shit. I had a teacher like Miranda, and I will say what I just said again. Power is meant to help, not to abuse others.
Abuse can be seen as relative...how people will treat you will also depend don't heir persona or what they are going on with at the time.
I would have liked it if you had mentioned that the perfectionism at work is to fulfill the expectation of being accepted and respected at work because miranda works "like a man" but she is criticized by the media and her husband for not fulfilling her role as a housewife, a mother, and a spouse. She is being called to by society and her family to be even more perfect just as she does with those who work with her. Basically, the exaggerated version of the unreasonable expectations put upon women everywhere
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@Agatha jay agreed. it's hard to find the balance especially if yer ambitious about yer career, but unless ye cant balance it then perhaps it's better to not dip into that pond in the first place.
Agatha jay Yet this kids go cry at their therapists when their dad wasn’t there. We are talking how women are PUBLICLY roasted when they do not strive to have it all. Look at the stupid questions women get “how do you manage work life balance?” Yet men never get asked those silly questions, there is an assumption that someone else dies child rearing for them. We have to look at things realistically how they happen, not how we think they should.
Some women choose to focus on their careers over starting a family, that's fine. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. Don't have children if you're not going to be there for them. It makes no sense why Miranda had kids in the first place when she doesn't seem to give two shits about them. I don't buy that her husband pressured her into having children, she looks like the type to get rid of a partner the moment he starts demanding things from her she doesn't agree with. She could have made it very clear to him from the beginning that she never wanted children, and some childless marriages work perfectly well when both partners are on that same mindset. But it's like she decided to have children like "oh, whatever, I'll just hire a nanny" and now her daughters are going to suffer an unhappy childhood and growup with a bunch of issues.
The ghost of John Wick's puppy
The problem here is that you can say as often as you want that you don't want children, but people still tell you that you will change your mind and if you are too old to have children you will be pitied even though you might be happy.
I don't want children of my own, because I like to work and learn new things and I have a severe phobia of doctors that is the result of a childhood trauma. I want to adopt a child though.
Even if I explain this to people, I still get the same answer or just silence.
(Important stuff is over, I just rant here.) Furthermore it's not only my job to care for a child my partner is going to have the same responsibilities as I do. It comes down to how we BOTH balance out our work and our private life. If you are in a long lasting relationship, you will have to make sacrifices and that might also consist of talking to each other about their job and if they should take that opportunity or if they are happy in their current position.
"Meryl Streep can play batman, and that's a perfect choice." - Cam Tucker, Modern Family.
@bertasu me too
I totally would watch it
i agree
great quote. Modern Family has really great script.
Ok, too much internet for today
Except in real life, being unforgiving of mistakes will bite you in the ass the first time you fail to be perfect, which you will. Also, this is how you die of a stroke at 45.
It was Meryl’s idea to have Miranda working constantly - she wanted to show that she wasn’t just being mean, she was very busy.
I really enjoyed The Devil Wears Prada. But I have always been disappointed with it's ending, as it took a less sophisticated approach to human development than what I thought the movie was going for. Throughout the movie you see Andy and her friends speak down of those who work in the fashion industry. Until she finally gains a new perspective of their lives and realizes that everyone has their different interest and values that differ from other's. Yet by the end she almost entirely rejects that which she learned as if what she and her friends thought in the beginning were right all along. I thought Entourage Dude's beef was incredibly unfair, he wasn't happy with her change as a person. Bottom line, people grow and evolve like different things and he should've championed that shift in Andy rather than shame her as well. The end just felt too black and white like a kid's movie about different cliques. I don't mind the fact she left, but that she started looking down on the culture of the fashion industry again.
There are a lot of problems in the fashion industry that are more exacerbated than some other industries. But the fact that she now works in the (infamous) journalist industry... I mean, she is just not in a position to look down on fashion. That's my issue with it.
Hm I think she didn't look down on the fashion industry, but on the way she was working there to please Miranda and now she's career orientated for herself. I do agree that Nate (entourage guy) had a *lot* of flawed points he said to Andy, but I don't think she meant that he was right about those aspects. Especially since the way she prepared for the end interview was much different to the beginning of the movie
I didn't think she was looking down on it--she just didn't want the life Miranda had. Emily pointed it out to her in the hospital that Andy didn't care, which was true. Andy only saw it as a stepping stone to doing greater things she wanted, and Miranda had to admire that about her, even if she also knew that fashion wasn't what Andy was gunning for.
That's what changed in the end, when Miranda was talking to her about people wanting their lives. Andy realized she just didn't agree, and realized she was already there all along, just because she wanted to get ahead.
i don't think she looks down at the fashion industry by the end of it, but has understood its good and bad, which is also reflected in her style at the interview at the end of the movie - still stylish in a miranda sense, but also somehow more "her own" and a little more basic than what she wore while she was working for miranda.
i dont think it was them saying they we're right all along but realizing that yes fashion us hard, but she NEVER planned to stay in fashion
I never understood her ending up with Nate when the other guy was so clearly understanding of her job and still interested in her. I felt even then that she should've cut ties with Nate.
Adina McCray Christian lies to Andy though, and is duplicitous and manipulative; even if he was willing to help open doors for Andy as a writer. Nate at least treated her well, and was a more genuine boyfriend to her.
Adina McCray Christian reminds me a guy who would treat Andy as a trophy, pretty, arm candy.
In what Christian lie to Andy?nothing
She didn't end up with the other guy was he was willing to betray Miranda near the end. She felt he had bad morals and was ruthless.
For a second I thought you were talking about Andy's incredibly gay friend XD
Wonderful video! I have talked about The Devil Wears Prada, in this manner for years and this video shares all of my sentiments about Miranda, Andy, and the other characters that follow. I am extremely happy that you talked about excellence and how others such as Andy's friend and boyfriend became intimidated by her new found sense of confidence and self-respect. Thank you! I would say more, but my comment would turn into an essay about maintaining core values while being excellent at what you choose to do with your own life. Thank You!
I don't always agree with everything you say but your content is always so insightful, interesting and challenging! good job and thank you!
Nate was such a jerk. I never liked him.
He just wasn’t a good match for Andrea.
Andy had some awful friends and boyfriend honestly she could have done better
Nate is gay... and he envies Andy working in Runway.
@Maple lord That doesn't mean he was straight lol. There is a whole ass word for the women who gay men marry to disguise that they're gay (beards), since it was such a common thing in the past. Hell, it's probably still common now.
Nate was a cook or something, and we all know how equally cutthroat the culinary industry can be. So why is it that Nate didn't seem to empathize with Andy's situation?
Also Miranda redeemed herself when she gave Andy a positive reference for her new job. I mean she left her at the busiest week of her industry without notice or any backup. She truly considered her an equal.
I don't know if this redeems Miranda because Andy worked hard for it anyway. She just handed the recommendation out. Doesn't excuse any of her abusive behaviors.
@@jannraymondruedas3474 im confused, didn't she tell him that andy was her worst assistent of all time? she was a petty bitch
@@Jordan-xg4pn It was followed up with "and if you don't hire her, you're an idiot."
jordan gucci That’s not what he said, he said “Biggest DISAPPOINTMENT.” Play of words that are very important considering. 🤷♀️😌
@@Jordan-xg4pn I think what she meant by "she was the biggest disappointment" is that she was disappointed that she lost her in the end bc she quit.
What’s crazy about the work/life balance is that it doesn’t only pertain to the attainment of wealth or success only, but also the sharp regression of the aforementioned
The channel is by far the best channel I have come across on CZcams.
Amazing content.... Love it!!
pls make a separate video about how Andy's boyfriend was trash and blamed her for just wanting a successful career
and her friends!!! like you’re okay with her job/success when you can reap the benefits of it (i.e. the purse) but not when they have requirements/obligations
THIS ☝🏽
That’s not what the issue was at all. Nate’s claim was that she became the very kind of person she said would have claimed to hate. “You used to make fun of the Runway girls, now you’ve become one of them”
Andy almost had none of her true self left. Success is fine, but don’t sacrifice oneself.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Ehhh I don't agree. Whilst of course I see where your take comes from, I saw it as; yes- she made fun of them, before she realised how hard they worked and the tenacity it takes to be able to work for runway. She actually grew to realise that fashion is a serious field in both art and commerce esp. in the scene with her friends when she was showing them different articles by a fashion journalist so it's evident that she still had her passion for writing. She was still herself but was being challenged in a field outside of her preconceived identity which I think is an opportunity everyone should take if given the chance. Nate was fixed, while Any was growing.
Cassy I also see YOUR point, and you’ll never hear me say hard work is a problem. However, Andy saw that they were working themselves to death to meet impossible, tyrannical demands. That’s the rub and where she made fun of them. She did grow through the experience by realizing she threw a lot of herself away for the job. And one will notice she upped her fashion game at the end, but did it in her own way and didn’t go completely overboard by being someone she isn’t.
And in the end Miranda was creating a toxic environment that would have eaten everyone who worked there alive. One can’t deny this. Minus Nigel somehow...but even Emily who seemingly cares to the nth degree was being chewed up and spat out and had to convince even herself that she loved her job. That kind of stress will create literal health problems IRL.
What made me angry about the movie/novel was that Nate and Andy’s friends were so quick to drop her. She deserved a lot more support and acknowledgment than they had offered. I’m glad Miranda made Andy realize that she didn’t need to settle for just the “Okay,” or she would’ve never seen her full potential.
To think that almost every "fashion boss lady" in movies later on were trying to copy her image
I once had a colleague who taught me how to make the distinction from Perfection and Excellence
Pray tell.
side note: fell in love with Emily Blunt
...How did I never notice that was Emily Blunt under all that makeup?!
She is absolutely brilliant and hilarious in the film. I don't think Anne Hathaway would shine if not for Emily's mannerisms. I adore adore adore her in this movie.
She was gimmicky and funny in this one, but I only started liking her when she was in The Edge Of Tomorrow with Tom “Scientology” Cruise. She was great in that.
@@lifePaultheball Maybe you should express your opinion more respectful
us all, my friend.
"Why do the excellent people have to be nice?"
This statement sums up so much of what is wrong with the world. The idea that if you're rich and successful you should no longer be expected to treat people decently.
Most excellent people are nice anyway compared to that hag Miranda.
YES THANK YOU.
I think the opposite. Too many people expect because you're rich and successful, you should conform to some general standard of being nice. My nice and say Kim Kardashian's nice could be two entirely different things. It's the belief that everyone believes as you believe is what's wrong with the world...that we vilify people for not being who WE think they should be. Instead of allowing them to be themselves..even if themselves is someone we think is mean.
I know... I find a lot of successful people to actually be nice. Success comes rather the other way around. You're good at work AND a nice person. Everyone wants to work for/with you because you are brilliant and nice is how it usually works. I find a lot of renowned scholars to be excellent people to talk with.
Say it!! Being good at what you do does not mean a free pass to belittle, embarrass and/or bully others
I’ve seen this movie over and over again but this video makes the movie feel like it’s a 5 hour documentary
This movie reminds me a lot of an intership I did when i was still a business student. I used to work for a high-end company and in the beginning I never lived up to my boss's expectations; she was a real perfecionist and it drove me crazy. I constantly felt that I was performing well below her standards. During my internship I started to get more and more attention to detail and I started to understand 'office politics'. I slowly started to admire her drive and perfectionism.
She was not the type of person to compliment. But at the end of my internship she told me that I will meet people in the corporate world "who won't be as driven as WE are". The fact that she said 'we' made me feel like I was finally getting credit for my hard work! At the end of my internship I heard from other colleagues that she spoke very highly of me. She was difficult to work for, but she has given me a lot of learning experiences.
Yeah I agree that Nate was really the villain in that movie lol
And the rest of her “friends”. Tossing around her phone when the boss is calling? No actual friend would endanger their friends job and livelihood like that.
@-- U sound mad
@-- The Take has video essay on Cinderella. Maybe you should give that a watch
-- As a woman that have to minimize another woman to fell superior, you will have to learn way more about empathy and true self-esteem before became a winner.
GalloY Nate doesn’t fight for their relationship though. He never tries to understand where she is coming from or compromise on anything.
Have you ever tried working for a person like that? It is absolutely nervwrecking and anxiety-inducing. Being controlling and cruel does not make you excellent. (Yes, my boss is like that and am trying to get away from it.)
Nadine Piontek I used to be an assistant for a high level investments manager at a global firm, and as soon as I met her, I couldn’t believe the similarities between her and Miranda, right down to their style, voice, mannerisms, facial expressions, behaviour and treatment. All of the women in the work place looked up to her and worshipped her despite being treated poorly, and I swear to you, she hated men. She was treated equally and fairly in the office by her male counterparts, if anything, they were intimidated by her as she really was the embodiment of the ‘dragon lady’ without ever raising her voice. Those 2 years I spent as her assistant was 2 of the most stressful, unhappy years of my life. I was returning home in tears every night, my mental health declined and anxiety increased greatly, my hair started falling out and I was suffering from extreme burn out something massive. Her expectations were impossible to live up to and the way she treated others was despicable. And for what? Because she’s smart and successful? I don’t believe that’s a good enough excuse to behave that way. I love the Devil Wears Pravda as it’s so relatable for me and a really entertaining film with fabulous acting, but experiencing this in real life makes me believe that Miranda is no role model for women at all.
I have worked in an environment like that, too, as a waitress in a restaurant. It wrecks your mental health.
@@jade5615 I agree, and i will add: it does not matter the sex or gender of the abuser, but this video say: this is the difference.
I doubt you were working for a Miranda. The point of the video is: Miranda is an exemplary role model in her field from whom people can learn many things.
If your boss was toxic, but not excellent, then she's not a Miranda. If she was, indeed, a paragon of excellence and you couldn't handle her, then you're just incompetent and the one who was toxic in your working environment as what incompetent people usually are.
@@reinebautistamercado4286 this is a hideous take omg
There’s only one fact you missed.
Meryl Streep also says, her hair was based on actress Helen Mirren.
Not a bad hair choice to take after either... not at all
To me, it's autocratic management. Like the way sisters in hospital wards used to be - the doctors even feared them!
I learned so much from those strong, hard working and wise women. And they were good to their staff. I think those sort of bosses should be encouraged, especially in essential professions
When Miranda called Andy while Andy was not at work, demanding Andy work, that's when I realized she wasn't a character I wanted to aspire to be like. That's a big pet peeve with me. When I'm not at work, I'm not "on the clock", I do not owe my boss anything. People have lives beyond work. Too many times we forget this and portray people in media as "hustlers" for doing the job even when it completely interrupts our lives.
I agree with you. I rather be labeled as an unprofessional than sacrificing my physical and mental health for a work that can easily replace me when I die.
Yet everyone expects teachers to spend time after / before school grading papers, planning lessons, creating materials, calling parents to be friendly and "in touch:".
I was a school librarian and as it's a little hard to take the library home, i typically spent 2 -4 hours after school still in the library. One benefit: I got to know the custodians really well and admired them!
Retired school librarian
That actually depends on your profession.. You are lucky when no one is calling you when you are out of your work...
Take medical professionals.. Especially doctors.. There are some doctors who are disturbed when out of rotation and clinics.. And need to be in hospital because of an emergency.
@@yachishairclips2250 Exactly. I'm going into Psychology and its very likely in that career to get called outside of work from patients or other medical matters.
Yes, if you're not willing / able to work outside of ypour regular working hours, don't pick a career that might require you to do it, simple as that. For some people who are passionate about their career, it's not just about "owing something to your boss", but about owing yourself. Or as discussed in previous comments, other people who actually depend on your help.
“By all means, move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me.”
Always a great line.
Wonderful critique and point of view. I LOVE this movie and Miranda's character is amazing, especially regarding your types of perfectionism. Well done.
"What she learns from Miranda is 'excellence'"
This line alone beautifully summarizes the WHOLE movie and it's MORAL! 👍🏼
One thing bothers me about every defense of Miranda - the "it would be okay if she was a man" should make us analyze what we let MEN get away with, not just blanket excuse her behavior. We should work hard and hold ourselves to high standards, but it's toxic to force people to neglect their personal lives. A good boss, male or female, knows when to say, "hey, you need to go home and get some rest." I love that your video acknowledges this!
I think if we really want to create a world where women aren't pressured to "have it all" in that unrealistic sense, we need to make work/life balance acceptable across the board. More women could rise to the top if more men were given lengthy paternity leave, or if it was socially acceptable to take a couple years off to be a stay-at-home dad... I'm in serious danger of soapboxing for pages and pages so I'd better cut myself off here.
Exactly. I'm retired military. One of my best commanding officers was a guy who would walk around (LBWA - leadership by walking around) about 5pm. If there was anybody still there he would ask why? In the military there is a perfectionist culture too and the norm is you are in before the commander and out after. This guy though, if found you at your desk he would tell you to go home. If you couldn't get your job done by 5pm you weren't doing it right. And god help the officer that kept his troops around until after the CO left just to impress him. THAT's leadership! I gladly followed where he led us even though it was extremely dangerous.
@@henrycolestage4249 That guy sounds awesome! I love stories like that.
I'm now thinking of my favorite boss (a woman in a special needs program). She was incredibly detail oriented and put together the most demanding plans I've ever seen, but she got results. She was also collaborative. Team meetings were long but everybody got their say and everybody felt appreciated for whatever they brought to the table. Plus, you could talk to her about anything. I cried when I left that job.
I had a part time job in grad school (nothing fancy, just an old theater), where my boss was the kindest, most down to earth lady ever. Her attitude made me want to show up and do a good job. She would occasionally buy us lunch and would defend us if customers got out of line. If an employee were unprofessional, she would talk to them very bluntly about their performance and their standing. Overall, she was fair-minded. I respect that type of person way more than showy perfectionists, who think their positions gives them license to berate others.
@@MsSphinx91 I like hearing stories like this because it makes me think of the kind of boss I want to be one day
Yep, the day that "right to work" laws (or anything similar) are a thing of history and the PAID working hours are the only ones anyone is ever allowed to work on will be a day worth celebrating. As is, too many employees abuse of the mentality of "if I don't work unpaid overtime, I might get laid off!"
Miranda can only be a perfectionist in her work since her life outside of it is in chaos.
My favorite video of all time
Angelika Torres Isn’t it the other way around? Her outside life is chaos because she’s a professional perfectionist. I think she cared more about her kids than her husband who was also an egomaniac.
You can be perfect and amazing at what you do but if you're a shitty person, you are going to be called that! There is a difference between being ambitious and downright condescending and narcissistic.
Making her assistants do unrealistic personal tasks like asking Andy to get the Harry Potter copy and threating to fire her if she couldn't pull through was a shitty thing to do. She also stabbed Nigel in the back because she didn't want to lose power. That's toxic. A person who is confident about their abilities would know that even if Runway decided to replace them, they could start something of their own because they're that good. They don't have to play games and take away credit from other people just because they're scared of being replaced.
It's a great thing to be career oriented and demand perfection but there's a limit. She can be abusive at times which is not OKAY. She's controlling and demeans people just because she can. She's great with fashion but she's not a good leader.
That being said, Miranda is amazing at what she does and should continue demanding a high standard from her employees. Her husbands leaving her for that is also wrong - I mean why marry an ambitious woman then?
You might as well have a firey personality so you can say that to a boss like Miranda and clash with her with few issues.
I mean I respect her but I don't like her as a person. but for me I could think of a reason WHY she does those things (not justify)
she's a boss, her doing that to Andy wasn't for enjoyment, as you can see she hates stupid questions, and overall excuses, she wants people to work hard and smart, it's like telling someone to make scramble eggs but you keep doing all the necessary steps of doing a simple task and suddenly they are not working, which is why in some scene Miranda doesn't explain much, She's a boss, in a highly active and from what I see non stop work, her time is her work and keep answering questions when you can figure it out is time consuming.
now the Harry Potter one, is both a test, and a reminder to Andy, because Emily already stated, that Miranda is a very PRIVATE PERSON and Andy broke that line by witnessing Miranda's personal life. now remember before Andy was already given many tasks. Miranda use the Harry Potter scene to see if Andy is still the ungrateful, not so flexible girl she met before who didn't try her all or appreciate or at least respect the people working in the fashion industry, and the second to remind Andy that she made one thing clear via through Emily, DO NOT CROSS HER PRIVATE LIFE. (this part is hypocritical but like imagine someone seeing such a vulnerable and ugly moment of your private life even though it was already said that you do not like that)
the Nigel part wasn't because she wants to be in power, for me if you notice every seen Miranda is always working or at least work is always near, and from how she belittles and demeans Andy in the cerulean scene is giving Andy, someone who undermines and even laugh at Miranda's job a reality slap and good shade that she deserves. now seeing all that already establish that Miranda's entire life is RUNWAY, and the MAGAZINE. now Miranda is very good if not a goddess in what she do and her career, and we see Miranda never does things without good reason, (reference to the meeting scene where also called as the "flowers, in spring? groundbreaking scene). she rejects and make comments of every idea because not good enough, already done, and too cliche not enough bold.
the Nigel betrayed was in fact in Miranda's eyes a way to save NOT HER but THE MAGAZINE plus it's not like Nigel was fired, he didn't get the job that he WANTED but we already seen through Andy's hardwork and the groundbreaking scene that Miranda always rewards hard work and excellent performance from her employee's, so who knows maybe in the future a better position will be offered to Nigel.
now for the scene's where she always has a sarcastic comment or snide, again she's the boss (although not an excuse you can understand) Her time and work requires the utmost efficiency she can tolerate small mishaps but she will not tolerate people who doesn't find ways to achieve their task, do what's been told, or make time to tell excuses instead of doing it properly.
imagine like your the boss a very run down boss whose job does not allow for slow pacing or failures or mistakes, and you have an entire team, but your team mates constantly makes excuses, waste time, or not do properly, at first you'll be it's alright just do better, but they never do, they keep making it worse and inconvenient.
Miranda is not asking much, all she ask is don't waste my time, do your job, do anything to achieve the task, and no slow pacing. although not an excuse you can see everyday with people who does Al lthat can really grind your nerves.
now the scene with Emily and Andy, I think lots of people are exaggerating Andy as betraying Emily, Andy didn't, Emily made it clear that only the most effective team, (even Miranda says it) are needed to go with her to Paris, Andy couldn't say no, it's a job already, and Miranda chose her, if she had said no Miranda would just tell Emily that she will stay and bring Andy with her so it's really the same situation. plus Emily also got hit by a car (idk if it's after or before Miranda chose Andy to go to Paris with her if it's before then the explaination above is my take on that if it's before then she got hit by the car she can't work :/ )
anyway that's just my opinion, love to hear more from yours anyway have a great day and lovely year!!!
Thank you bruh
@HasufelyArod lol she will just fire you🤷♀️, she kept Andy only because it was her whim. Miranda is narcissist in way she makes her workplace revolve around her persona which means that once she has to leave it will fall apart without her as core, she doesn't train a successor. I'm not sure about her fashion sense because it's likely not that great and more stuck up, just because she can't listen to others
I never really looked at this movie where there's a villain. I just thought working sucks but getting stuff done is great. Growth is part of life and all that and society makes it really hard to be nice because being nice meant giving up that power of intimidation. Men bully each other all the time and play it for laughs, I think we made it "normal" to be mean. Stress never helps in making someone nicer either.
Talking about perfectionism, here's an inspirational story:
A man says to his boss one day, "Wow, boss, is that a Lamborghini I saw you drive in?"
The boss says, "Yes, and if you continue to work hard, put in your all and strive for excellence, I will be able to get another next year."
Haha so true
That has nothing to do with perfectionism. But it has everything to do with how capitolism gets confused with meritocracy.
@@elleofhearts8471 Yeah, what?
Lmao didn't expect that 😅
@@elleofhearts8471. English please
unlikable, but undeniably a hard-working feminist icon
91clarie Being likable is overrated. If you are not efficient, it won’t matter.
@@Lafemmefutile depends on where you live or who do you work with/for I guess. I was fired by my unqualified boss for (and I quote) taking my job too seriously. Meanwhile a guy who was sexist and unprofessional but more likeable is still working there.
Betzy Arosemena I think the caveat should be that only when you get at the top can you then apply these leadership principles. When you are in the pit with others, you have to be a team player otherwise you get ejected really fast. You have to read your company and identify where you can add your extra 20% and not try to be 200% when most other employees are at 80%. You have to understand your company culture. Usually it’s because people take themselves too seriously that they get ejected, not because they take their job too seriously.
Unlikeable? Like, in-verse?
I like her. She reminds me of Tywin Lannister from GoT. Powerful, principled, demanding and cruel. I'll probably only admire and fear from afar if I ever encounter this type of ruthless leaders in real life. But they are very charismatic in their own unapologetic way.
I loved everything about this video! Well done!
The key point I want to admit is how beautifully Meryl Streep played the role of Miranda, a rather traumatized and partially immature, but also scheming and ambitious person at the top of the fashion industry.
Her character in which the most vulnerable feature is childhood traumas associated with the control of the surrounding space, resentment against parents, as well as sadistic inclinations in moments of loss of control or the desire to harm subordinates or colleagues, which are wrapped in minimal social norms.
The remnants of childish infantilism in her are expressed in the desire to be offended and the manipulation of her grievances (and expectations) without a clear verbal expression of them; in the desire to express her critical mood exclusively with facial expressions or gestures, as well as attempts to force subordinates to comply with these deviations and punish those who against it.
And of course, how this person realizes her ambitions, remaining a first-class specialist in the top-fashion industry.
And of course, Andy's character, which is quite healthy and remains such to the end.
I think Miranda’s greatest weakness is that by adopting these traits that are usually masculine in the workplace or the fact she is forced to act like a man to survive in a male dominated business setting she has also adopted a lot of those toxic traits of those types of leadership
the interesting thing is that, at least for movies versions of business, she conducts things in very feminine way.
She doesn't yell, she strikes with careful barbs. She doesn't punch anyone. She doesn't even outright threaten her boss to keep her, she "explains what would happen if she was fired".
She doesn't even sexually harass anyone.
She was better than any male leader. I didn’t see any toxic stuff in her. She was playing the game very well and she’s winning. She just cannot escape the duties of motherhood and marriage (even men are marginally spared by this).
“Male dominated”? Most of the people there are women, her rival is a woman and most men there are homosexuals.
this is a good point ....
@@91838072 "Male dominated" as in the business world in general, not the fashion industry.
Miranda Priestly made me want to rock that haircut, but I knew it would never look like hers.
Straight hair that short is a lot of maintenance anyway.
@@shineeis5657 I have to be honest w skill level here too. But yeah you're definitely right. Although my hair is so straight naturally
Her haircut is ugly for my taste anyway. I'd rather take an emo/scenelike haircut over an old butchy one any day.
She has what has been defamed in internet culture as a "Karen haircut."
@@shineeis5657 maintenance Miranda can afford. She just makes it part of her job to find the time to tweak her hair. Anna Wintour gets up at 5:30 to work out and then goes to work. Where does she find the time; she makes time and goes to bed early
The difference is: If Miranda was a man, nobody will be writing a. 22 minutes justifying every single detail of his abusive behavior. The idea that people don't talk about the boss's family when he is a jerk just because he is a man is so funny that I wonder if the people that say such thing have: 1. Never worked on a place with a bad male boss, 2 were so hated that nobody speaks to them about the boss, 3 have a severe case of selective memory. Besides the "if she was a man nobody will criticize her" the video is excellent,
Hell no. If Miranda were a man, the same character would be considered abusive anyways.
@@gianmarcorusso1713 men, exactly, nobody will be justifying it. By the way in the older more machista times, they will and they will not justify a woman. It's interesting how equality works. I was expecting that by now both women and men will be judged basically the same way. Instead of it men and women are now different not only under the practice (as it was before against women) but even at the text level.
@@gianmarcorusso1713 But it would still be considered pretty normal
@@msk-qp6fn It might have been considered normal at the time the movie came out, but in the meanwhile, people have become more aware of sociopathic, abusive bosses.