Embiid vs. Wembanyama Was An Instant Classic
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2024
- The first ever matchup between Joel Embiid and Victor Wembanyama was total domination, the 14th 70 point game in NBA history.
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embiid is on another planet this season
but damn wemby is crazy for a rookie, i can see him being the most dominant player in the league in 3-4 years
Agree with this comment 100%, both really stood out on a historic night.
@@HoopVenuein 3 years he will be at least top 4
Embiid might have to get tested lmaoo
@@bigbangbasketballone of her does this in the playoffs
I'll give him two more years. He is a potential DPOY winner in year 1.
moment i really loved about victor was his rage after getting caught for 3 fault on embid pumpfake , it say a lot of how smart and stronger he wants to be on the court at 20 years old against a dominant center mvp
That's a good catch, he also said he wants to start playing back-to-backs again, his drive is amazing.
No one likes to get schooled lol, i'd imagine most ppl would react the same as Wemby
@@mr.kwamid-86_43okay
One thing that wasnt mentioned in the breakdown was that wemby was in foul trouble during most of the second half so he couldnt be as aggressive as he wanted to against embiid leading to easy points. He will need to work on that in the next matchup between the two. Once again great breakdown of the matchup
Rookies need to learn about all the BS vets will throw their way. Experience is the best teacher.
@@shorewall Imagine how lethal Wemby will be once he gets that experience in his bag.
Definitely, and glad you enjoyed the video!
@@MarquisVegan fr, it's pretty crazy to think that this guy's barely even scratched the surface of his potential. I really wonder if he'll have a physique glow-up like Giannis did and would be destroying everyone. I hope his career goes this way cuz man, I really want to see that
@@insanejoe9042 I don't know if he will bulk up like Giannis but I'm sure he will still put on enough muscle to where he can kind of bully the opponent more than he can right now. Either way this kid will dominant the league soon.
As good as this game was I do think the refs and a minutes restriction robbed us of a better one on one match-up on the level of Giannis and Wemby. Victor getting 2 early fouls in the first 6 minutes changed how he was defending the 76ers, felt like he was contesting but not trying to block shots, which for him is unusual. And the refs were calling everything (on both teams) that imo killed the flow of the game. I'd be curious if there was a 3 minute stretch in the game without free throws.
Great observation and take. Glad to see some intelligent thoughts on the comment section.
sure but then why wouldn’t people just foul to defend?
@@wokoloco- there is a big difference between no whistle for fouls at all or whistling everything. The hard part in the NBA compared to say NHL or NFL, is that you can actually foul out. And this impacts things on a whole additional level. I don't mind people getting to the line for ticky-tack fouls when the refs feel like its whistling-time. But the change in momentum due to your most important players having to dial it back whilst your opponents will dial it up to draw even more fouls, feels like game breaking. I like the FIFA/football rules a lot more: you can foul a lot, and if it is "bad", you get booked for it, which can only happen once a game or you're out. Pretty much like flagrants work. But there's no way you get fouled out for stupid incidental body contacts.
Agree with this for sure!
@@sinastir7688 Whining about refs isn't intelligent thought. It's typical redditor shit.
MVP performance by Embiid and ROTY showing why this league will be his in a few years
Excellent breakdown. Watching the game, Embiid was so unstoppable. It got to a point where the refs were ignoring fouls, and he was still getting buckets through all the contact
Embiid is a force of nature. There is nothing that can stop it.
Definitely a memorable welcome to the league moment for wemby 🤣 I was at the game and it was phenomenal to see Embiid shoot over wemby couple of middys.
Still cool how Wemby played really well though, 2 generational talents going crazy.
Wemby had 33 on the MVP that’s pretty memorable
@@hashbrown4278 I don't think Embiid was the only one guarding him
@@TedTeddy-ej3dpwemby only on embiid for half his shots so
@@TedTeddy-ej3dp exactly all of embiids points weren’t on wemby and vice verse
Love these videos!
Glad to hear it!
Embid looks like he’s in full form hopefully he’s healthy during the playoffs so we can see a joker embid showdown.
Dream finals scenario
I'm not worried about Wembanyama... He's young, he's learning about the NBA and the players who make it up. He had a good rookie season statistically, it's crazy to think that the guy is on the same points average as Embiid when he was 22 years old.
100%, he's on a minutes restriction and putting up superstar numbers, special talent.
Has
He's young, and its crazy to think that this guy had 70 points on him.
@@SeaTK610all 70 wasn’t on wemby.
Hoop you did it. Awesome video
Appreciate it 🙏🏻
Luckily wemby doesn’t have to worry about bruiser bigs every night but it definitely highlighted his need to gain size/strength
It'll get there, he's only 20! I love that he still got his on the other end though, didn't go down without a fight.
It really wasn’t that bad Embiid is a huge human he won’t see anyone else this strong
@@tay4734 Yeah, better to be light like Wemby and Chet, rather than Mr. Breaks his foot every playoffs Embiid.
I hope gaining size will not affect his ability and shooting
@@HoopVenue Boston manhandled him too. This is the way they’re neutralizing him? Knocking him down!
ive always said this about Embiid. He has the most well-rounded skillset in the league and is the archetype of a perfect big. Dominates the paint like Shaq, elite mid-range shooter, can step back for the three, elite free throw shooter, can pass the ball to the open man if double-teamed. If the guy gets a head of steam he is the most unstoppable player in the league offensively. Defensively he is a top rim protector, can guard the perimeter, etc.
His only issue (and to be fair he has had a lot of bad luck) is his playoff performances and being able to show up big in big moments. He is missing that Kobe, Lebron, Jordan factor where he can create plays and shots in high pressure situations and knock them down.
I mean if you want to talk pure skill, Jokic is on another level. But I get what you're saying
bro i get what you saying but he is a freaking rookie with minute restriction doing all that wemby is way better than kobe in his rookie season even bron and he doing that with a shitty team
He showed up before in playoffs, its just kawhi (raptors)hit that lucky shot in the corner to ruin his championship year😂😂
Needs to get the playoff hump and win a chip. Dude is a walking bucket forsho, a 7 foot kobe
@Sofwarriors no he didn't. Gasol dominated Embiid in those playoffs with Embiid shooting under 40% and averaging less than 20ppg
Im convinced Joel's play is gonna carry over to the playoffs this year mostly because his processing of the defense has gotten so much better but I'm also convinced because of how he performs in these moments wemby is gonna live up to the hype eventually. You made history covering this classic again bro 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He stat pads vs shit teams. He is just an overrated flopper.
@@jimmywalker8354😂😂 casual
@@iversongmd Keep that same energy after he exits the Playoffs in the 2nd round, prolly vs idk... NY Knicks, in embarassing fashion again.
@@jimmywalker8354lmao he only gets eliminated in embarrassing fashion because of injuries. i dont know how you can expect him to keep up his insane regular season production while injured
@@iversongmd Jokic gets better in the Playoffs, why can't Crybiid??
thank you for this video. i see alot of people not trying to give him his credit for what he did. just because they dont like him so they hate lol
That just shows you how good he is
Man i was just opening youtube to listen to music while i play 2k and i sat here to watch this whole damn video... Whatver i guess that means it was interesting. Hell of a game for embiid. 70 is nuts
W VIDEO AS ALL ALWAYS. I was wondering if u could make a clips vs lakers video
as a bandwagon harden fan i wanna see u analysis why the laker keep beating the clippers
I did one on their first matchup this season!
That Pop quote is one of his best 😂
Scored only 16 points on Wemby. Wemby’s +/- is 0 for the game. Scored 33pts on minutes restriction. « Destroyed »??? Really??
Wemby defended Joel for 26 possessions. Joel scored 24 points on 67% shooting. Victor played extremely well, Joel was just on another planet.
Haters be like
@@HoopVenueI still wouldn't say destroyed since wemby also had 33
There’s no hate lol, I’m as big a Wemby fan as you’ll find on this website. It’s a title.
I changed the title because I don't want to give off a perception of "hate", but half of the video is breaking down everything Wemby did well, he's amazing.
Wemby’s revenge games are going to be insane
Facts, can't wait!
He’s cooking up a 40-20 game soon
@@bigbangbasketball with 6 blocks and 5 assists or some shit
3:15 i like that you referred to Shaq diesel ,young guys do not know how dominant he was in his prime
I’ll die on the hill that Shaq at his absolute peak has a very strong argument to be the best player ever
@@HoopVenuethat's a huge stretch. Most dominant is an argument, considering what Wilt did, but all Shaq did was bully people in the paint. Hardly makes him the best at any point.
Good video but no mention of Wemby’s extreme foul trouble early and throughout. By 3rd quarter he played very conservative defense on Embiid etc, basically with just his hands up in the air.
He was getting bodied in the third. That’s when embiid went to work
@@AkeemPierre It's also easier to do that, when any resistance you put up might lead to getting fouled out of the game, and your own foul counter is low. It's smart by Embiid and within the rules.
Good call!
@@AkeemPierreno
Well, of course, Embiid is going to overpower Victor he’s only a 20 year old rookie in his first season, give him a couple of seasons to let his body develop. Then we’ll see if Joel can do that to him.
Absolutely! The fact that he’s already doing the things he does defensively without filling out his frame is remarkable
Embiid knows that it's just a matter of time for Victor to dominate the game. Wemby is learning faster than expected. Wemby takes his losses very personal much like the character of Mj.
Wemby did well on him. Embid is 7 feet tall, stronger, with far more pounds weight & more experienced.
Facts
Such a good game to be at. Embiid is a beast this season
He is just 20 years old. It is very common that a 29 years old man is at the prime of his strength and 20 year old is just out of his teenager skinny period. The physical strength differential is just too much. I don't think Embiid can score so easily after two season when strength differential is not as much.
Only time will tell!
Even as a more casual basketball fan, I could see Wemby’s talents shine through. He didn’t look too bad at all, just young and inexperienced. He’s dangerous now, I can’t imagine what he’ll be like when he’s a bit older and built less like a rake.
Fun to watch
You can’t compete against Embiid and the refs at the same time. It was a disgusting match.
Refs baby Embiid an insane amount. They need to chill with the whistles.
@@sinastir7688Meanwhile embiid is knocking down trees with his body banging?
Just when you think it won't dazzle you,the nba get's better? Wow
Are you serious? Pop was joking hard ... obviously Embiid is too big too good for the moment
I included the clip because it was funny, not because I took it serious 😅
3:18 is an offensive foul look at the arm bar
The Spurs second unit is horrendous. The lead extends tremendously when they're on the floor
Joel Embiid back-to-back MVP 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Wemby gonna be insane after earning experience with constant double teams and being matched with the top players.
28 min per game and the 2 player whith more blocks in the past 15 years. Wemby is unreal
Joel has a lot of practice going against Mo Bamba (7-10 wingspan) so he more than any other big would have known what angles offense against Wemby involved.
Good point!
Peak Harden (2019 2020 or whatever year) or Current Embiid & why?
I'd say Embiid, he's reached that tier as a scorer (if not surpassed) and is a DPOY candidate.
Harden's playmaking of course takes his offense to another level, but I think Joel's gotten good enough in that regard to gain the 2-way edge.
Sohan needs to hit those wide open 3s
Sorry babe I can’t pick the kids up from school. HoopVenue dropped a video about Baby Goliath vs. Goliath
🔥
Fleeced of a generational offense vs defense battle. Wemby looked like he was half trying defensively sometimes to avoid getting more whistles smh. That said still a legendary matchup. Embiid’s antics annoy me but can’t discredit 70 points and he hit crazy shots. And Wemby with his 33 in 28 minutes. Well done to both
Wemby will get his ...remember young Shaq who becomes big Shaq diesel
No doubt, he's ridiculous.
HES ON A RESTRICTION SOMEONE GET THIS BOY HELP
FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL, FOUL........
70 POINTS. What a legend...
You get it.
Then don’t foul. (He made 24 field goals)
@@HoopVenue Damn. Why didn't the NBA players think of that. The coach is going to be kicking himself when he realises.
I cant wait til Wembys about 4 years in..
Even just 1 year in!
@@HoopVenue yea hes putting up the numbers even now with playing only mid 20 mins. But in 4 years hes gonna be filled in a lil more physically
Ngl i love the breakdowns you're doing but that background music is too iconic
wemby is gaining vaulable experience
Embiid had no problem getting to his jumpers, yes. But all of them were at least ok-ish contested, or even heavily contested, when Wemby was on him. Zach on the other side... Well, ... Let's not talk about that.
😂
JOEL NEEDS TO REMEMBER TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SECOND ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS!!!
BUT WILL HE!!!??? >:( SMFH :/
Only time will tell 🤷♂️
Anyone hating on the free throws he got in the game name me somebody on the Spurs that was gonna stop him from dropping 50 then?
He had 49 points without free throws, people are gonna hate no matter what
Pause… coach pop😂😂😂
Again and again, these tall players in NBA proved to us that it does not take skills to play basketball, only height is required.
That's your takeaway from two 7 footers shooting pull-up jumpers from 20-30 feet out?
I hate that 7’5 players exist
Spurs got to get rid of some of these turkeys (i.e. Sochan). Not that Wemby is perfect, but they aren't a good fit. They seem like they can't get Wemby the ball in his best spots.
Give Joel MVP now gang
Now it’s time to talk about luka 👀
Just uploaded one on his game!
I feel like Wemby is the first player maybe since Lebron that you know it’s only a matter of time before he is the best player in the world, along with AntMan, Luka, Shai, Tatum (with Chet, and Paulo Banchero being my two honorable mentions for the future top 5 in the next 3 or 4 yrs
That man Embiid has earned that MVP, and I'm a Jokic fan. He deserves it now.
Definitely, his numbers are off the charts
Thing is literally nobody cares about him getting another MVP if he keeps shitting the bed in the post season, nobody is openly saying it because he is playing well but it's always looming
@@soooslaaal8204look how people look at harden legacy
@@soooslaaal8204 health
i never knew zach collins was this trash until now
I feel like that’s also the Joel Embiid effect though 😂
@@HoopVenue I'm really new to basketball but to me he seemed bad even on offense (ball glued to him, weak decision and play-making, terrible 0/12 shots missed)
@@HoopVenue that’s true but the slow motion in 4K did him ZERO justice 😂 great vid btw
You’re not wrong, and appreciate it!
Zach is hardly trash because he got owned by Embiid. The mf averages 35 points, he owns practically everyone every night.
Zach though was supposed to be a stretch 5 with passable everything else. He is passable at everything but the stretching part is a disaster. i expected a poor man’s BroLo, but the 3’s have regressed too much to play with Wemby. Now he is a less defensive Poetl that takes and misses 3’s.
Man for a guy who only started playing basketball as a teen he is really aforce
Bro i love your vids but you need to change that iphone ringtone ass beat in the background, making me think someones calling 😂
This guy acts like we don't know about JO JO
75% of people watching probably think he only foul baits and is a “ref merchant”, they definitely don’t know about Jo.
Wemby GOAT
Embiid is very impressive.
Wemby gonna score 80 before the season over
I'm a wenby huge fan but come on man 😂😂😂😂
Embiid for MVP
12:36
You point out when the 76's premier player is in the paint and 2 players from the SA SPURS can't stop him as basically a WOW moment!!! When Wemby does it it's because there was no one one to defend him!!! Wow talk about a (1) sided VOOOw!!! UBLW.
Wemby needs to score better with Embiid guarding him and he needs to stop Embiids shooting. He got crushed by Joel
Nick batum still plays? Damn.
Serious hooper!
For sure...seems like he has been there as long as Lebron.
Embiid is so skilled but he only does this against bottom-feeding teams. He's just a stat-padding, flopping merhant... he will never an ECF!!
bro how did sochan even make it to the nba
Give him some time!
dang embid is an animal
Embid MVP
Spurs Needs a Center and Wemby's teammates looks like they be hating on his clouts!
Pause
Do players not study film no more? Joel has been shooting that mid-range at the free-throw line all season and he's cashing it almost everytime. How hasn't adjustments been made for him yet?
Because the nick nurse offense. Last year he was great in the mid range but there was no player movement so you can load up on him. Now there’s action off the ball so when the do load or double embiid he make easy passes
You can learn a great player's tendencies but a 7 footer who is quick, can face up and shoot the lights out, overpower you in the post, or drive to finish at the rim like he's a guard, is just too many options for a defense to contend with unless you wana leave guys with wide open looks and live with double/triple teams in the middle of the floor that he will see coming and easily pass out of
Big problem is that once bigs come up to contest, they aren’t quick enough to take away his drive without fouling.
You’d rather him shoot a pull-up middie than FTs or a dunk, really makes you “pick your poison”
And Mr. Embiid said hold my jock son while I put up 70 points...
You are too gullible to even believe a joke from Pop😂
I included it in the video... because it was a funny joke.
victor is a rookie. he can not instantly be as good as Embiid of course. Embiid is just a living god at his prime. Let the young man a bit of time
Of course not! The fact that he’s even matching up and winning possessions is impressive.
Pause af pop
Embiid 1v5 on the Spurs
first comment!
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Philly had the advantage of biased refs. It was pretty obvious how easily they ruled for Philly thus neutralizing a lot of defense esp. on Embid.
Sochan really sucks at running guard wth is Pop thinking putting this terrible playmaker at the guard position?
i mean, wemby is a rookie!
Yeah no we know. That's why he dropped basically 30 solely on him that night lol it makes sense but he's been making literally everyone else look silly at times. Gonna take a couple years for him to get one on Embiid me thinks lol
Man. Wemby has very bad teameates. He can be so much good than this and hes avg 20 & 10. Leading the league in blocks too. His future is scary 👽👽
If the team was built around him, this team would be very different. This season should be seen as tryouts for who is gonna get to stick around.
Exactly. The fact that they only moist by 10 and the bucks game was close to says a lot
When the defenders start elevating more than a foot off the ground to block or alter shots, then maybe I'll start watching NBA games again. They jump like women !
So may foul baits and he only scores 16 on wemby
Bruh can you just show the highlights don’t need your commentary man I can work this shit out on my own
Highlight videos exist for a reason, this is NOT a highlight reel.
Wemby gets knocked down regularly!
Not really.
@@hashbrown4278 recent Boston game?
@@MrReymoclif714 he doesn’t seem to get knocked down that much. Here and there yeah but I’ve only really seen him be around more then knocked down
He’s only 20yrs old try that on David Robinson or Tim Duncan real pros not rookies
Embed is soft
Y'all need to pump the breaks. Joel waz playing against children out there smh. One of greatest scores of all time NO!! U have 3 big men in nba that are all starz. 90"s 2000's at least 8 to 10 superstars bigmen. Stop hyping these players up
He’s averaging 36 PPG on 65 TS%, is averaging 40 since December 1st, and has scored 30+ in like 22 games straight.
Yes, all-time great, and it isn’t just from this performance or from this season.
Chet would never
Chet scored 8 points and won tonight, bro is a roleplayer 😭
Jokic got robbed of a mvp last season. But this season Embiid deserves mvp
Idk if I’d say “robbed” because Joel did have a great case himself, but I get what you’re saying, Embiid’s separating himself this year for sure.
So should we give the MVP to Jokic this year and call it square? Nah, I'll just take that Embiid can't cry his way to a chip as a number 1.
@@shorewall You're legit pathetic
THEY TRYING PROMOTE THIS LITTLE GUY, BUT WE KNOW THE NBA SCRIPTED LOL, THE GAME SUX NOW , I STOP WATCHING GAMES AFTER THE SPURS INTERNATIONAL TEAM WAS BUILT and promoted..
Embiid is dangerous with elbows aiming his oponent's faces, his shoulders impacting sternums and his knees hitting testicles. His dirty way of playing includes self victimizing as soon as he is touched, and, of course, he exagerates any action against him.
He's just taking advantage of anti defense rules. In the 90's he would have had no chance against Rodman.