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    Half-Life for the Macintosh was finished, but never came out. Today, we find out why.

Komentáře • 131

  • @franciscoandrada412
    @franciscoandrada412 Před 5 lety +457

    Rebecca Heinemann is just awesome. She single-handedly did a Doom port in a stupid amount of time and she only failed because they studio leader was an idiot, and now I find out SHE MADE A HALF LIFE PORT? This lady is just amazing!

  • @SomeGuy234
    @SomeGuy234 Před 4 lety +387

    I can't be the only one that read this as "Half Life 3 Fated Mac Port" because it looks too much like roman numbers.

    • @the_brallon
      @the_brallon Před 4 lety +14

      Some Guy Dadamage dw i did too

    • @gamesergeanthd
      @gamesergeanthd Před 4 lety +14

      same wtf

    • @fatalis7147
      @fatalis7147 Před 4 lety +9

      I did this just now too, and immediately scrolled down to see if anyone else did the same thing!

    • @xpickpoke2266
      @xpickpoke2266 Před 4 lety +5

      same

    • @laze_amvs424
      @laze_amvs424 Před 4 lety +4

      same, legit came to the vid because of this reason.

  • @btarg1
    @btarg1 Před 4 lety +104

    Wait, THAT REBECCA HEINEMAN? Nice.

    • @Petar321_GT
      @Petar321_GT Před 4 lety +20

      i watched her vid talking about developing doom for the 3do. they tricked her she just had to polish the doom 3do port but she actually had to port it all by herself. and considering the situation, it was a awesome port, music was the best!

    • @tjrizvi251
      @tjrizvi251 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Petar321_GT dude Burger Becca is a fucking Gangsta

  • @RiasatSalminSami
    @RiasatSalminSami Před 4 lety +115

    Video Title:
    Half Life lll
    haLF lIFe 3?!

  • @snapchipper
    @snapchipper Před 5 lety +141

    Someone out there definitely has the code for it. It’s only a matter of time until we find it…

    • @sugarbombs6884
      @sugarbombs6884 Před 4 lety +7

      Would love to have it see the light of day

    • @Journey_to_who_knows
      @Journey_to_who_knows Před 4 lety +5

      Well I doubt it would be that exciting, just normal Half Life for different performance

  • @jakebrown8116
    @jakebrown8116 Před 5 lety +209

    Good video but you left out one major part... Valve DID eventually bring Half Life not only to Mac, but also to Linux. Valve has invested a lot into achieving parity between Mac, Linux, and Windows for all of their games.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 5 lety +119

      Fair point, though I was mostly trying to keep this to new information. Not to detract from Valve porting their library to other platforms, because it's a very good thing, but porting to Intel-based Macs is a lot less complicated than porting to PowerPC based Macs. PowerPC is a whole other architecture on top of the OS difference.
      The main reason we saw Mac gaming get a lot more "even" (in terms of ports) in the 2010s was the transition from PPC to Intel in 2005ish making it a *lot* easier. Valve releasing Steam for OS X was just the push it needed.

    • @user-bl5so7dv1s
      @user-bl5so7dv1s Před 4 lety +4

      Blame Windows 8 for that

    • @wadmodderschalton5763
      @wadmodderschalton5763 Před 3 lety +9

      Valve's macOS ports were very short lived when it came to updates, having never made the transition to 64-bit at all, and even since then, Valve has never released a 64-bit only version of Steam ever, not sure why but maybe it's an enterprise related problem to Valve to keep the 64-bit version of Steam in Development Hell forever.
      Even then though, Valve itself is not an enterprise company. And the only 64-bit version of Steam that was released is on macOS, the 64-bit Windows & Linux versions of Steam still remains in development hell pretty much forever.

    • @trismd3
      @trismd3 Před 2 lety

      let me know when steam doesn't want i386 architecture added and i don't have to add non-free repos.
      Steam on Linux is more half baked than smoking shit weed

  • @Rocky1138
    @Rocky1138 Před 5 lety +42

    I had to stop the video a few times to read the text from the postings and the quotes. It was really hard to read text with someone talking a different sentence overtop, and the text was not shown on screen long enough to read it all several times. Great video, though. I had no idea about the Mac port.

  • @Sideswipe-gr6kj
    @Sideswipe-gr6kj Před 5 lety +62

    Hey what’s happening guys this is kaxey from kaxey news network and today we’re gonna be talking about the canceled half-life port for the Macintosh, let’s go

  • @banguseater
    @banguseater Před 4 lety +25

    3:00 Hahahaa PeeWee! I've been playing HL DM with him for years, probably one of the finest and nicest players to keep this gracious deathmatch mode alive. Anyways great video!

  • @kyoobqa
    @kyoobqa Před 4 lety +11

    Wow. Half-Life is my favourite game of all time, and only now do I hear this story. It's actually really sad. I feel so bad for the studio and especially the lady. Having so much work just thrown out the window must be excruciating.

  • @tones3dferret
    @tones3dferret Před 5 lety +20

    How tf you only got 1K subs? This is some 500K quality

  • @blackflame_
    @blackflame_ Před 5 lety +9

    Great choice of background music 10/10

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 5 lety +1

      Kelly Bailey is incredible.
      Spot the original track though.

  • @sidewaysfoxbody
    @sidewaysfoxbody Před 4 lety +16

    i'm stoned silly, i totally read that title as half life 3. 🤣

  • @dadwhereareyou5702
    @dadwhereareyou5702 Před 5 lety +6

    Good video! Never heard about this story until now

  • @penguingalorigin6341
    @penguingalorigin6341 Před 2 lety +3

    When you said they were told to destruct the code, I literally gripped my chest in pain... so much work went into it and it probably isn't ever going to get archived.

  • @HunterTinsley
    @HunterTinsley Před 5 lety +18

    Good video! I don't even like Apple/Macs and this story _really_ bums me out. Folks, this is why you always keep an archive of your code.

  • @BSPNode
    @BSPNode Před 5 lety +3

    You out did yourself Kaxey! I love these half life videos. Keep it up man

  • @VikingPoodle
    @VikingPoodle Před 4 lety +1

    Ya got a great channel here. Very well made videos. Glad you showed up in my recommendations. Subbed

  • @OliverBevan23
    @OliverBevan23 Před 5 lety +3

    Great work here, really interesting to find out what happened to the port.

  • @SuperRickrules
    @SuperRickrules Před 5 lety +3

    very interesting video about one of the many half life ports that never came to be.
    maybe someday we can experience it, lovely video as always.

  • @crypeton
    @crypeton Před 4 lety +1

    This channel is underated and it one of my fav channel

  • @christopherwilliams9418
    @christopherwilliams9418 Před rokem +1

    Really wish there could be some sort of agreement with Valve to release the PPC Mac build of Half Life in some capacity. I mean, we got Star Fox 2, so why not?
    Really I just want to be able to play one of the era defining and genre defining games on my iBook Clamshell lol... I'd pay full modern retail AAA game price for a physical copy.
    I wonder when the last time anyone asked Gabe about it was?

    • @Benzona
      @Benzona Před 9 měsíci

      At the end it says they were instructed to destroy the code, even if they made a sneaky secret copy (which would be illegal) any media from back then is probably perished

  • @ClipHub777
    @ClipHub777 Před 3 lety

    your vids are very unique, good content

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz Před 4 lety +1

    It's not really THAT tough a port. Big endian transition could make map data incompatible and network data, or it could be made to work, but of course a lot of cleanup of the underlying engineering would be necessary. Of course it's not entirely unfair to call HL on Windows-PC a mess because of general software quality issues on the one hand, and immature graphics accelerator support on the other, with Direct3D, OpenGL and Voodoo Glide as competing standards which all had to be supported, and variously broken drivers for each GPU in particular - but OpenGL was fairly robust on a mac back then already. I remember Bungie's Oni ran fine.

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts573 Před 4 lety +6

    Rip Dreamcast and Mac ports. At least the ps2 came out

    • @Agret
      @Agret Před 4 lety

      The Dreamcast leak was good, I wonder why Valve didn't want it on those two platforms.

  • @icarusgaming6269
    @icarusgaming6269 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm getting some Ahoy vibes on this one

  • @johnmartinez12347
    @johnmartinez12347 Před 4 lety +2

    Half-Life Ill confirmed!

  • @gold4cash418
    @gold4cash418 Před 4 lety

    Very good video, I hope more people see it.

  • @JakeTheGhostYT
    @JakeTheGhostYT Před 4 lety

    you have earned a sub my dude

  • @darknightmike10yearsago
    @darknightmike10yearsago Před 4 lety +11

    I thought it said Half-Life 3 at first, and I was like, "What? It was finished this whole time but got canceled?!" Then I saw it said ill, and not III.

  • @liamwhartonhamilton
    @liamwhartonhamilton Před 4 lety +1

    I read ill as III like the roman numerals, so i thought it meant half life 3

  • @Kyle-xv5kv
    @Kyle-xv5kv Před 2 lety

    Did the powerpc build of this ever get leaked? I've been digging about forever for even a scrap of information on this. This really needs to get out into the public domain.

  • @hgmd3284
    @hgmd3284 Před rokem

    i wonder if valve will recode thier games to run wonderfully on M1 based archetecture? id be a dream having TF2 and Gmod running near flawlessley on macs.

  • @Channel9iNE
    @Channel9iNE Před 5 lety

    Fantastic quality content

  • @olzhas1one755
    @olzhas1one755 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Gabe!

  • @highdefinitiongrapes4815
    @highdefinitiongrapes4815 Před 3 lety +1

    You know what you did with that title.

  • @wesleybcrowen
    @wesleybcrowen Před 4 lety

    merry christmas btw

  • @nostalgicbannana2336
    @nostalgicbannana2336 Před 4 lety

    Not gone forever there's stuff we've said like this and what fo you know it washed upon shore because someone sold it on ebay

  • @bigtonybruiser
    @bigtonybruiser Před 4 lety

    underrated vid!!!

  • @doitallYT
    @doitallYT Před 2 lety

    Well dang, I was just repurposing 2 1994 Mac's with the hopes of playing HL1 😕 what a shame, hopefully someone creates some kind of a homebrew port one day

  • @TornadoSandwich
    @TornadoSandwich Před 4 lety

    Of course today you can just install Windows 10 for free on any Mac (if you don't mind a little watermark) and play just about any PC game you want if your Mac is powerful enough

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 4 lety +3

      TornadoSandwich Right, and HL also has a native Mac port. But PowerPC Macs didn’t have HL and still don’t.

  • @joaquinremalante8160
    @joaquinremalante8160 Před 4 lety +1

    nobody
    me: *Half Life 3's fated port*

  • @RobertJBareIII
    @RobertJBareIII Před 4 lety

    I think I know what you were going for with the game-play section, where it was louder and more prominent and all. But (and this is a personal comment) I think it might be better if you kept it more in line with the general volume of the rest of the video. I usually use my computer with speakers and not headphones and that game-play section had me racing for the volume knob.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 4 lety +1

      I was bad at audio mixing back then. I've gotten a lot better since :)

    • @RobertJBareIII
      @RobertJBareIII Před 4 lety

      @@Kaceydotme I've noticed, I'm liking the content. Good stuff (=

  • @JohnDoe-ke2gx
    @JohnDoe-ke2gx Před 5 lety +1

    I cant believe noone didnt save the code to themselves

  • @Benzona
    @Benzona Před 9 měsíci

    Gabe Newell owes each and every member of the team a personal apology.

  • @snoopersmokio
    @snoopersmokio Před 5 lety

    This is epic.

  • @realdunky69
    @realdunky69 Před 3 lety

    Did this later change? Iv played Half-Life on a mac through steam

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 3 lety

      Yes, it was later ported to Intel-based Macs, but that port has nothing to do with this one. This one was pre-Intel.

  • @Alex-ui8oy
    @Alex-ui8oy Před 4 lety

    Funnily you can beat and play Half-Life fully on a mac like I have!

  • @davidridley926
    @davidridley926 Před 3 lety

    I could've sworn this said Half Life 3

  • @j1nz007
    @j1nz007 Před 5 lety +1

    really like the atmosphere and the style of editing. Is there any word to describe this style?

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 5 lety +6

      Thanks Jinzo! This is often called a "video essay," though I don't know if I'd use that term myself. But some of my inspirations who I think have slightly similar content to mine are Green Ham Gaming and Raycevick. You might find some satisfaction in their content. There's also my other videos; I consider atmosphere one of the most important aspect of games and I try to let that shine through in my content.

    • @DodoGTA
      @DodoGTA Před 4 lety

      @@Kaceydotme Green Ham Gaming 🤔

  • @SAClassHunterZero
    @SAClassHunterZero Před 3 lety

    Well, I just drink a lot of WINE now, if you know what I mean, lol

  • @Fr4ncM
    @Fr4ncM Před 4 lety +1

    I'm such a PC fanboy, but even I have to admit what Gaben did was shitty. One thing is screwing Mac users, but another way different is screwing the honest labor of hard working people. Epic is now using similarly shitty tactics on Valve... Karma is a bitch, I guess.

  • @Xxsergo68
    @Xxsergo68 Před 3 lety

    Didn’t the mac port leaked ago ?

  • @SpartanWasTaken
    @SpartanWasTaken Před 5 lety

    Hi Kaxey
    I've tried to reach out to you but you don't have info contact. I've kept you in my featured channels and followed you for a while and I plan on dropping some old games content on original Xbox so it would be nice if you could put me in your inspirations, as a mutual advertisement
    Thanks in advance!

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 Před 5 lety +1

    Is is buried somewhere or was it destroyed?

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 5 lety +3

      I asked and did not receive an answer. Take that as you will.

    • @anfrac3700
      @anfrac3700 Před 4 lety +1

      I own the Mac port on Steam. Its not an actual port, but a conversion of goldsrc into Mac OS X. Valve did it with a bunch of other old games too (CS 1.6, Day of Defeat) Pretty much runs the same as normal half life but with less support.

  • @colly6022
    @colly6022 Před 4 lety +1

    what about the 2010 release? as in the one that I started playing... on my mac.

    • @Callewaerty
      @Callewaerty Před 4 lety +2

      Colly This ain’t the same. Mac’s back then were a LOT different compared to the ones we have now, mainly due to architecture and PowerPC/Intel stuff.

    • @colly6022
      @colly6022 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Callewaerty yeah but in the video he said half life never got a mac release

    • @Callewaerty
      @Callewaerty Před 4 lety +1

      Colly Yeah i think he just forgot about it lol

    • @IanThunderbolt
      @IanThunderbolt Před 4 lety

      The original version of Half Life has never been ported to Mac, the version you can buy on steam today is the Source engine version of HL 1 not the 98 code that this port was a version of

    • @colly6022
      @colly6022 Před 4 lety +1

      @@IanThunderbolt there's half life and half life source, both available for mac

  • @denizo9263
    @denizo9263 Před 4 lety

    i see no problems with my linux port

  • @Player3.
    @Player3. Před rokem

    Man, mac gamers really got stiffed in the early 2000’s. They got stiffed out of this HL port, and they also lost Halo to Microsoft. Must have been heart breaking for mac gamers.

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k Před rokem

      Apple's exagerated claims didn't helped, but even then, a bunch of platforms that were still performing well just didn't survived, with the MacIntosh (and Sega Dreamcast) among them.

  • @tigranmelconyan5562
    @tigranmelconyan5562 Před 4 lety

    Sad😟

  • @TheArtOfTechSupport
    @TheArtOfTechSupport Před 4 lety

    I'm waiting for a port to android

  • @potatogamer5559
    @potatogamer5559 Před 4 lety

    but i can play half life on mac

  • @thebornelazer6435
    @thebornelazer6435 Před 5 lety +3

    Who tf r the 2 dislikes???

  • @masonhales
    @masonhales Před 4 lety

    and dreamcast

    • @vulcanitu2578
      @vulcanitu2578 Před 4 lety

      Unfortunately the dreamcast port is ass, too many loading screens and framerate drops

  • @arcticridge
    @arcticridge Před 4 lety +1

    *WRONG!*

  • @WA_Stokins
    @WA_Stokins Před 4 lety +2

    Hell yea, I love burger becky!
    Trans rights!

  • @Littlefighter1911
    @Littlefighter1911 Před 4 lety +1

    When you purposefully write a big i in the world "ill" so it looks like "Ill"

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 4 lety +1

      Every word in the title is capitalized Chief. If you’re expecting HL3 to use Roman numerals it’s your own fault.

    • @Agret
      @Agret Před 4 lety

      Gotta get the clicks somehow, CZcams algorithm is made to game

    • @Littlefighter1911
      @Littlefighter1911 Před 4 lety

      Yeah, I suppose "purposefully" is probably not entirely accurate here.
      However I think many people actually did not see the "I" as an "l" and thus thought it's a 3.
      You could have prevented it, and who knows, maybe you even specifically chose that word (there are people smart enough to think about this, and I can imagine, you are as well).
      I'm not bashing you for doing it, I'm just pointing out, it will definitely confuse people.

    • @Kaceydotme
      @Kaceydotme  Před 4 lety

      @@Littlefighter1911 I guess my faith in people being literate was too high, and I'm not particularly worried about the opinion of anyone who is prone to being confused by the phrase 'ill-fated.'

    • @Agret
      @Agret Před 4 lety

      @@Littlefighter1911 Make no mistake, he knows what he's doing. Must be new to youtube if you don't recognise clickbait tricks :) he deserves any traffic he gets to his channel, he has good videos and it's not like he is the only one to game youtube.

  • @nacl_keo
    @nacl_keo Před 4 lety +1

    I know why there was never a macintosh version...
    Apple computer suck ass
    Just because it costs alot does not make it better

  • @neonrelmsproductions4224

    You ever try to play anything on a mac? It ain't all that fun.