Hungarian Revolution of 1956

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  • čas přidán 31. 07. 2020
  • Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the Hungarian Revolution of 1956.
    Shoutout to Historigraph for giving us permission to use his video on the Hungarian Revolution: • Twelve Days of Freedom...
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Komentáře • 825

  • @TheColdWarTV
    @TheColdWarTV  Před 3 lety +121

    Shoutout to Historigraph for giving us permission to use his video on the Hungarian Revolution: czcams.com/video/EqImvCnO15w/video.html

    • @yasinibrahim
      @yasinibrahim Před 3 lety +6

      Thanks for the amazing content

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Před 3 lety +7

      I knew those maps from somewhere! Great collab.

    • @yasinibrahim
      @yasinibrahim Před 3 lety +2

      @@AhmedIbrahim-by9hetoxic hater

    • @AhmedIbrahim-by9he
      @AhmedIbrahim-by9he Před 3 lety +1

      @@yasinibrahim Sorry for the bad etiquette, it was my child who was on my account. Please accept my apologies.

    • @richardbragg6682
      @richardbragg6682 Před 3 lety +1

      I am trying to source some of the information presented in this series. However, I can't find the presenters name anywhere or his credentials as a historian. Help?

  • @carpathianhussar8553
    @carpathianhussar8553 Před 3 lety +320

    Hearing someone pronouncing hungarian names almost flawlessly for the first time(even knowing that the family name comes first), I'm impressed!

    • @JakobMusick
      @JakobMusick Před 2 lety +5

      Never knew that until now!

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw Před 2 lety +8

      Especially knowing that Magyarul S sounds like sh in shore, and GY being the palatal D, Ð.

    • @queenofdramatech
      @queenofdramatech Před 2 lety +6

      Same! I am American but if Hungarian ancestry. This makes me so happy!!!🤗

    • @stevenparker7946
      @stevenparker7946 Před 2 lety +6

      Indeed! I was thinking the same thing! That alone secured my Subscription!
      I was three when this happened. My Grampa had left Budapest in 1916, but many family members stayed, and perished during these events… It’s when I realized I needed to learn some Hungarian just out of “self defense”, so I could understand why the adults were so upset…

    • @johnbaker4246
      @johnbaker4246 Před 2 lety +7

      He is not Hungarian, but he said in another video that he lived in Budapest for a few years, so that would explain his pronunciation.

  • @paulfrancis8836
    @paulfrancis8836 Před 3 lety +517

    I was there when the Stalin statue came down. I was five, with brothers nine, and 11. We all sneaked across the Austrian border. Walked through 2 kilometers of mine field. 5 pairs of feet, and never hit a mine.

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  Před 3 lety +56

      Do you know if you crossed at Andau?

    • @KZ-xt4hl
      @KZ-xt4hl Před 3 lety +22

      No offense but this doesn't seem believable

    • @paulfrancis8836
      @paulfrancis8836 Před 3 lety +112

      @@TheColdWarTV I'd have to ask my 95 yr old mother when she gets up as I was only 5yrs old. I do remember huge floodlights going on, and some Austrian solder fired a few shot at the Russians. From there we went to Switzerland for 2 years, where I first went to school.
      From there, some went to the US, some to Canada, and some to Australia.

    • @katischra2111
      @katischra2111 Před 3 lety +65

      My parents fled after the revolution. They both crosses the border into Austria separately with whatever clothes they had on and whatever they could cram into small suitcases. My parents were in the “second wave” of refugees and flew on an airplane to America where they met. Their romance continued while they detained at Camp Kilmer where they learned English, and were prepared to enter the workforce. They later married and settled in Chicago.
      No one runs to Communism. They will flee it only. My parents were fortunate to make it out.

    • @paulfrancis8836
      @paulfrancis8836 Před 3 lety +51

      @@katischra2111 An old truck driver offered us a ride, but it was too crowded so we could'nt get on. About 10 min later, we saw that truck blow up and burn, no suvivers from what my father told me. It was apperently hit by a morter, or cannon shell. I'm glad I was too young to register the gravity of the situation. At first, my parants were going to America, then, in Switzerland, a guy told them that Australia had more jobs, so we finished in Sydney.

  • @loganmacgyver2625
    @loganmacgyver2625 Před 3 lety +402

    My mom didnt hear about the revolution until the curtain fell and we have been having memorial days (she was born in 1970, in a small town in Hungary, teaching about the revolution was taboo)

    • @9wowable
      @9wowable Před 3 lety +16

      it's weird, im hungarian but my family were from then Czechoslovakia and we knew about it from pretty much the beginning.

    • @aranos6269
      @aranos6269 Před 3 lety +17

      @@9wowable I am from czechoslovakia, we knew about it from the beginning. But it was a taboo subject officially. However I did not know, never heard of strike/uprising in pilsen, 80 km from where I lived for years, until I studied in pilsen and a friend told me. His father was in it. To this day people do not know much about it.

    • @vityke
      @vityke Před 3 lety +14

      It is true. I am also Hungarian and there have always been two subjects we were not allowed to be taught about: The treaty of Trianon and the revolution in 1956. These "pages" were missing from the books of my teacher both in elementary and high school. They just simply jumped through this whole topic...and those who dared to teach about were fired...uumh "sent" to other schools. And this one happened in the 90's ! It is like if i write down the truth here. If i dare to say, they delete it.
      My father was 13 years old when soviets marched into Budapest and he lived in District 8th which was the worst warzone that time around. I am not going to continue now because my comment will be deleted or i will be banned.

    • @ericpayne4577
      @ericpayne4577 Před 3 lety +2

      Wish you could say more. But there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

    • @loganmacgyver2625
      @loganmacgyver2625 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ericpayne4577 its not like the Tijamen (i hope i spelled that right) square massacre anymore

  • @maddyg3208
    @maddyg3208 Před 3 lety +112

    I met an old Hungarian refugee in Melbourne Australia a few years ago. He was still emotionally wounded from having to leave in 1956 and being not allowed to go back for his father's funeral twenty years later.

    • @petronellakatona310
      @petronellakatona310 Před 3 lety +3

      These things were not known by public! Actually we had a very happy nation till 1956! Since then we are struggeling and waiting for Miracle!

    • @petronellakatona310
      @petronellakatona310 Před 3 lety +6

      Much more people were executed after the Saint Revolution than You mentioned! God Bless Them, Who died for our Homeland. Hungaria!

    • @centralasia6827
      @centralasia6827 Před 2 lety

      @@petronellakatona310 the soviets kicked ur ass. My grandfather fought against u, u invaded the Soviet Union, and then try to make urself as a victim.

    • @weebanimefan7760
      @weebanimefan7760 Před 2 lety +2

      @@centralasia6827 Wow man, as a political ally for Germany back then they had 0 choice, and USSR(later in the cold war era it was published that the Germans did that with USSR planes) planes bombed Hungary, then Horthy had no choice aswell, and you can see when they wanted to jump out to save the people they get occupied by Germany easily.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety +1

      That's a bit more complex. Before and during the Grand Amnesty of 1963, the Kádár regime took advantage of a few facts: a general lack of being able to learn forbidden languages, a general lack of Hungarian diasporas abroad, and a general lack of familiarity with self enterprise forced some Hungarians to return, out of whom the regime found some willing participants who gladly played a part in propaganda movies regaling about how the amnesty was real (which was technically true) and there was nothing to fear.
      Generally, there were 2 types of people who still refused to return: those, who did wage armed combat (and who weren't exempt if there was evidence of them killing anybody) and those who felt that Kádár, a former minister under Rákosi is just another Stalinist who devised the ruse to imprison them. It is a controversial subject, but there were two other subgroups. For this, one must know that evidently even in the most oppressive of regimes, not everybody is a political prisoner, some do time for conventional crimes. Bear in mind that in 1956, just a decade after the trials of Arrow Cross Party members and other fascist collaborators, some were still sitting in jail for war crimes and rebels freed prisoners during the uprising. Naturally, the Western stance was that they are not to accept communist accusations against residents, which made the work of the Wiesenthal Center that much harder.

  • @raekveny4716
    @raekveny4716 Před 2 lety +58

    My grandpa was there, at 14 years old.
    I'm so proud him!
    Nyugodj békében papa 🖤

    • @elf7321
      @elf7321 Před rokem

      your grandpa is GAY- Glory to the glorious soviet union, screw zionism

    • @renelataupe9507
      @renelataupe9507 Před rokem +5

      My grandfather also, at 17 years old he made the revolution and then he escaped to France, these mens were strong

  • @hoselui
    @hoselui Před 2 lety +20

    The only country that offered military aid to the Hungarians in 1956 was Spain.
    FRANCO, who was a furious anti-communist and military man, was so enthusiastic in helping them that he planned to send a contingent of 100,000 volunteers to fight alongside the Hungarians (twice the number of volunteers of the Blue Division on the Russian Front).
    This desire to actively participate in the Hungarian revolution of 1956 can be explained because at that time 20 years had passed since the Spanish civil war and this was the occasion to remember good old days fighting against the communists again, Franco never stopped being a soldier.
    In the end, these intentions remained in humanitarian aid only for logistical reasons, due to the lack of collaboration (for fear of the USSR) of the transit countries, it became impossible to transfer that contingent of soldiers.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety +4

      I respectfully ask you never to use Franco and humanitarian in the same sentence.

    • @josephpostma1787
      @josephpostma1787 Před 2 lety +2

      @@akosbarati2239 As well as you!

  • @uglarthenosmart4573
    @uglarthenosmart4573 Před 3 lety +179

    Love Hungaria and Hungarian people.
    Brave, amaizing and talented people.
    Ria Ria Hungaria from Poland!

    • @Pltlght2571
      @Pltlght2571 Před 3 lety +8

      Likewise buddy. Together we bring down Brussels.

    • @peterandkodiak9762
      @peterandkodiak9762 Před 3 lety +6

      The Polish people were always our Brothers and Sisters!

    • @013wolfwarrior
      @013wolfwarrior Před 3 lety +3

      Dzieki bracie

    • @tommeiner9983
      @tommeiner9983 Před 2 lety

      @@Pltlght2571 Lmfao you rather let them down.

    • @Pltlght2571
      @Pltlght2571 Před 2 lety

      @@tommeiner9983 as you wish. But those neo marxist anti-pepole will go down.

  • @richardgeering7074
    @richardgeering7074 Před 3 lety +190

    Later that year Hungary vs USSR water polo match at Melbourne Olympic Games 1956. The team left before the start of the revolution. It was noted as one of the most physically intense Olympic Games matches as the Hungarian team fought back on behalf of their now lost country against the invader.

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  Před 3 lety +71

      The so-called Blood in the Water match. Global politics played out in a swimming pool on the other side of the world. Many of the Hungarians on the team had no idea if their families were alive or had been killed.

    • @alien332
      @alien332 Před 3 lety

      That was a casual waterpolo match, had nothing to do with the revolution. The players was not the cause of the soviet murderers

    • @adhitya858
      @adhitya858 Před 3 lety

      damn...

    • @adhitya858
      @adhitya858 Před 3 lety +8

      @@alien332 its mainly the symbolism

    • @alien332
      @alien332 Před 3 lety +1

      @@adhitya858 I know, its just stupid, it alters the reality

  • @AnEnemy100
    @AnEnemy100 Před 3 lety +29

    My grandfather, a Spanish Republican who fought against Fascism in the Spanish Civil War and in the French Resistance, tore up his Communist Party card in disgust at the treatment of Hungarians by the Soviets in 1956.

    • @richardque4952
      @richardque4952 Před 2 lety +7

      Mugged by reality

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety +1

      A few weeks after the revolution, if I recall, in December of '56 that Khrushchev let the children of Spanish revolutionaries get back to Spain from Soviet captivity.

  • @user-dn7pi3es6b
    @user-dn7pi3es6b Před 3 lety +37

    I'm so glad we donated so much blood for our Hungarian friends in 1956 because it actually made us a family by definition! Love and respect from Poland!

  • @Sparrows1121
    @Sparrows1121 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Where the term "Tankie insult" came from

  • @georgehalm
    @georgehalm Před rokem +11

    Freedom fighters not rebels. The best 2 weeks of my life.

    • @TSERJI
      @TSERJI Před měsícem +1

      you took part in the revolution?

  • @9wowable
    @9wowable Před 3 lety +116

    My family is Hungarian from Southern Slovakia (actually very close to the village Gerő Ernő was from). And even though we weren’t part of the revolutionary Hungary. My grandad was 14 when the revolution happened they had no idea what was going on at the time (news did spread quickly here thoguh), but he still remembers the columns of Soviet Tanks driving down our village heading to Budapest from the nearby military base, then coming back up again afterwards. ironically the same happened in reverse when Czechoslovakia was occupied in the 60's.

    • @csfelfoldi
      @csfelfoldi Před 3 lety +8

      My great grandparents with my 7 year old grandma at the time were deported from Szenc because of the Benes Laws. Always wondered why some were deported and some weren't.

    • @pampalini9344
      @pampalini9344 Před 3 lety +1

      @@csfelfoldi eyy you mean Senec ? In slovak ?

    • @pampalini9344
      @pampalini9344 Před 3 lety +2

      @@csfelfoldi Because i live in Senec :D
      My Great Grandparents lived in Slovak vilage in south Hungary and then moved here to Senec

    • @csfelfoldi
      @csfelfoldi Před 3 lety +2

      @@pampalini9344 Yup. My grandmother still has family over there. Cried in the middle of a shop there cause it stood on the place of their former house.

    • @pampalini9344
      @pampalini9344 Před 3 lety +1

      @@csfelfoldi What a coincidence that we meet :DDD
      A lot Hungaryan speaking pepole are still here . Did you konw where they lived ? Maybe in my street :DD

  • @hussar3906
    @hussar3906 Před 3 lety +159

    Thank you for covering this topic thats pretty personal to my family, both my grandfather and great uncle took some part in the revolution. My grandfather was on the last day of his mandatory military service when the soviet tanks came over the border near Ukraine in november, upon hearing the tanks in the early morning everyone stationed there ran out and the next thing my grandfather saw was one of his comrade's head rolling on the ground, probably decapitated by machinegun fire, him and 4 other soldiers were sent out to hold a bridge not far from where they were stationed with nothing but a machine gun, their commander in chief fled and he was left as commander, he quickly ordered for the firing pin to be removed from the gun and thrown into the river under the bridge, they called in saying that they were given a faulty weapon and requested to evacuate. After the revolution he had to serve an extra year in the Hungarian military.
    My great uncle on the other hand was only 16 during the revolution and quickly joined, theres actually a photo of him holding a machinegun somewhere out there and after the revolution he was sentenced to death and escaped to Switzerland and never returned to Hungary.

    • @aliahmedwadi5849
      @aliahmedwadi5849 Před 3 lety +15

      They are great brother as we having a revltion in Iraq its pretty good to read about others and how they died for their countries.❤

    • @013wolfwarrior
      @013wolfwarrior Před 3 lety +9

      Smart move. When my dad was i the borderguard he only kept a couple of bullets in his magazines, he didnt wanted to kill anyone and gave zero shits if someone wanted to escape.

    • @thedadoffab
      @thedadoffab Před 2 lety +3

      My mother to fought in the revolution and fled to Switzerland
      The country which I was born

    • @JohnFartblast
      @JohnFartblast Před rokem +2

      My grandparents came to sweden from hungary during the revolution as refugees, its very interesting to hear about others stories about this.

    • @patriciaramirez9295
      @patriciaramirez9295 Před rokem +2

      My father was also assigned to patrol the border. He said that he left his station and used the riverbed to escape. He found shelter in a barn. And was confronted by farmers. He told them he left his post. They said they knew of a underground smuggling systen to get refugees to Canada.
      My Father's last name was Fekete.

  • @brentfoster9138
    @brentfoster9138 Před 3 lety +48

    My mom was one of the 120 000 that fled for Austria as a child. Her whole family eventually settled in Canada

  • @laszlo5201
    @laszlo5201 Před 3 lety +91

    Thank you for covering this! ❤

  • @robertalaverdov8147
    @robertalaverdov8147 Před 3 lety +80

    Roughly a century apart Russian troops quelled a Hungarian revolt against the then Austrian Hapsburg monarchy and then against their own puppet communist dictatorship.

    • @shawnv123
      @shawnv123 Před 3 lety +4

      imagine thinking it was a dictatorship

    • @azstrikbonjok1171
      @azstrikbonjok1171 Před 3 lety +17

      @@shawnv123 because it was commie.

    • @shawnv123
      @shawnv123 Před 3 lety +1

      @@azstrikbonjok1171 no it was sommie because it was socialist

    • @azstrikbonjok1171
      @azstrikbonjok1171 Před 3 lety +10

      @@shawnv123 there's 0 difference in the two.

    • @shawnv123
      @shawnv123 Před 3 lety +1

      @@azstrikbonjok1171 there’s plenty difference in the two lmao communism has never been tried

  • @Gabor-xn3lm
    @Gabor-xn3lm Před 3 lety +20

    The way my grandmother discovered about the revolution: Her parents sent her to buy some vegetables from the market, and when she got there, there was already a shootout.

    • @maddyg3208
      @maddyg3208 Před 3 lety +2

      My mother-in-law went out to buy some milk and saw tanks in the street

    • @mikeyorkav4039
      @mikeyorkav4039 Před 2 lety

      Its almost like this revolution was manufactured by outside actors

  • @jeffreypopper9719
    @jeffreypopper9719 Před 3 lety +20

    I did a 110-page independent research project in Budapest on this, based on original archives. Amazing job on this video!

  • @ffffuchs
    @ffffuchs Před 3 lety +55

    My grandpa was there all along. He was the son of a wealthy peasent who were deemed kulaks and had all their belongings taken away. Since all better job oppurtinites were denied from people like him, he ended up being a teamster in Budapest when the revolution started. He participated in toppling the statue. He told stories on how they trapped tank columns in narrow streets and rained on them down with molotovs, or how they practiced firing an artillery gun in a park (he himself was a veteran of WW2), and how they pitied the frightened soviet soldiers when who were clearly just as much victims.
    In the end he fleed back to his home village where however he was quickly charged and imprisoned. He served about 6 years in like 4 prisons until the amnesty. He was still not allowed to settle down in the HALF of the country he was from so had to come to the western part where I live today.
    Till the end of his life he had a burning hatred for communism, and because he was branded anyway he never backed down from voicing his opinion knowing they can't put him any more down (not just because of '56 but having experienced the stalinist style persecution personally, even suffering outright torture). He was often at the market and constantly shittalked the communist party. In one example when some well known party figure died he corrected people saying he didn't perish but said "megdöglött" which is a term we use for animals, when applied for humans it is considered super dehumanizing and demeaning. When he went for a job interview and was asked if he served prison time (something the questioner obviously knew holding his papers) he shouted "of course I did, i fought in 56 against the communist vermins, why do I not look like honest Hungarian man to you?". From what my father told he constantly did these sheinigans just to poke needles at the regime.
    His biggest regret in life was that in 1989-1991 when the regime collapses its members weren't given the same treatment. He reputedly regularly harassed ex-communists by promising them the same they did to them. Sadly it never came to be and their descendants hold many key positions.
    Rest in peace grandpa.

    • @UsaSzerelem
      @UsaSzerelem Před 2 lety +6

      Thank you for sharing your story. This has a lot of parallels with my grandparents and uncles. They all fled Hungary, except for my grandfather because my grandmother was a simple peasant woman who was afraid to leave. This costed my grandfather's life as he was tortured and killed, the family owned factory was taken away and converted to a shoe factory by the communist. It took 2 generations to get ourselves out of poverty and ensure that the 3rd generation is brought up without fear of where they are going to sleep or how they are going to find their next meal. The communist did tremendous amount of harm.

    • @Jmj__
      @Jmj__ Před 2 lety +2

      @@UsaSzerelem “wealthy peasant” has got to be the stupidest thing I’ve read this month 😂

    • @mikeyorkav4039
      @mikeyorkav4039 Před 2 lety +1

      @@UsaSzerelem lol. Deserved it.
      "Boo hoo, they took the family factory and we had to live like the workers we exploited!!!! We're the victims here!!!"

    • @mikeyorkav4039
      @mikeyorkav4039 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jmj__ 20 bucks his grandfather also fought for the fascists

    • @tariqnasneed3857
      @tariqnasneed3857 Před rokem

      @@mikeyorkav4039
      What's a matter, Popov? Did Azov gut your pig brother? Don't be sad, atleast you got a TV out of it.

  • @indonesiansasquatch4926
    @indonesiansasquatch4926 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm impressed by the effort made in pronouncing the names right. Been following the channel for a while, amazing content!

  • @markmarot9026
    @markmarot9026 Před 2 lety +2

    Cangrats David! That was a pretty good summary of the revolution. I'm a Hungarian, and love history so I can tell. Grate videos, keep it up!

  • @bhutochakrabarti4173
    @bhutochakrabarti4173 Před 3 lety +17

    Another amazing content. Waited all weekend for your video.

  • @user0307
    @user0307 Před 3 lety +7

    I love how you included Hungarian Dance # 4 by Johannes Brahms at the end. Very good.

  • @davidh.7027
    @davidh.7027 Před 2 lety +15

    I like your Hungarian pronunciation, and I love that you say the names in Hungarian order: first is the family name, second is the forename. 😊

  • @haraldkrausz
    @haraldkrausz Před 3 lety +40

    Great episode. Living memory for many in Hungary and beyond. Canada received the largest number of Hungarian refugees per population after the Revolution. More than 38000 Hungarians were allowed to settle in the country. Many of them had their tickets to Canada payed by the government of Canada.

    • @tszirmay
      @tszirmay Před 3 lety +7

      Like the entire Sopron University forestry teachers (and families) who went to British Columbia en masse and helped the lumber industry ! My family were late defectors (in February 1957) and arrival in Canada 7 months later. Funny anecdote the McGill University sponsored plane landed in Gander , it was minus 25 degrees and my father thought we were tricked to land in Siberia! I was a baby and 1956 still resonates with me today, as I speak the language fluently.

    • @stevenszikora2375
      @stevenszikora2375 Před 3 lety +5

      It was very appreciated that Canada took all the refugees in after and during the uprising and paid the ticket to get here. When we got here we all received $5 per person Ticket to come across the Ocean was around $125 and A train ticket to your final place of your choosing Around $35 . There was no welfare so you where on your own, we all had to get some sort of job.
      That really was the best way to go to different Country no hand out. Since I was 11 years old I had a job that paid 25 cent an hour working on different farms as a hired man, whit no regret. And all the people that came the same way we all made it in this land. And we paid back every thing what Canada has given us 10000 times over. That is why immigration legally works the best way in any Country.

    • @AnnaLVajda
      @AnnaLVajda Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I think my Dad moved to Canada shortly after too. I hope Russia is not moving back in there soon.

  • @juliuscaesar8925
    @juliuscaesar8925 Před 3 lety +8

    Loved the video. Please make a video on the situation in Antarctica during the Cold War

  • @dario2439
    @dario2439 Před 3 lety +60

    Avanti ragazzi di Buda

    • @Pelaaja20
      @Pelaaja20 Před 3 lety +14

      Avanti ragazzi di Pest

    • @kgbfiles5713
      @kgbfiles5713 Před 3 lety +12

      Studenti, braccianti, operai

    • @svenhassel1312
      @svenhassel1312 Před 3 lety +7

      Il sole non sorge più ad Est!

    • @iibugii9353
      @iibugii9353 Před 3 lety +2

      Abbiamo vegliato una notte,
      la notte dei cento e piú mesi!

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 Před 3 lety +4

    Well told, sir! My complements to your ability at wrapping your tongue around thos Hungarian names! Bravo!

  • @franciszekwiniarski3383
    @franciszekwiniarski3383 Před 3 lety +11

    Nice video!

  • @anthonypaul6148
    @anthonypaul6148 Před rokem +1

    Amazing video! These comments are a gold mine....many stories that need to be remembered.

  • @jezzalanko
    @jezzalanko Před 3 lety +20

    My mother is Hungarian and my grandfather decided to leave once things got hairy and move to Australia they arrived here in 1956 I am glad they did

    • @infpisland9295
      @infpisland9295 Před 3 lety +2

      Same here :)
      Well my mum’s parents left Hungary for Australia in the late 40’s. Just after the Second World War, and trying to leave before the Soviet Union took over

    • @bigbeartanner
      @bigbeartanner Před 2 lety +1

      same, but it was my grandparents that fled to america

    • @AlphaSections
      @AlphaSections Před 2 lety +1

      @@bigbeartanner Glad to have Hungarians come to USA. I had a great neighbor of an Armenian women and a Hungarian man. Their kid was my friend, and I learned that later, both of them fled their original countries during the cold war. God bless them!

  • @alexandrosnaoum1318
    @alexandrosnaoum1318 Před 3 lety +1

    A well done episode. I'm sure that though the time you are getting the necessary experience to produce the quality of the content that this trouble era is needed.

  • @deanbuss1678
    @deanbuss1678 Před 3 lety +2

    This was a great couple of episodes 👍

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 Před 3 lety +8

    Hello The Cold War. I sometimes go to Mass at a Hungarian Church on the side of town I happen to live because I can walk on a nice day. There are two shrines, one to St. Steven of Hungary and one to the uprising of 1956. If you would like pictures or what have you, no problem. Great work as always, thank you.

  • @norbertnagy2339
    @norbertnagy2339 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this :) Very nice name pronunciation! Greetings from Budapest!

  • @martinnorek7316
    @martinnorek7316 Před 3 lety +8

    Greetings to Hungarian people .I am from Poland leaving in Australia.

  • @adamfaith2321
    @adamfaith2321 Před 2 lety +5

    My Hungarian Father in law ( who passed away with Covid Oktober 2021) was in Budapest at this time saw his friend killed, he escaped Hungary while being shot at escaping via Austria to eventually England at the age of 16.
    He made many friends and was very successful in England and made a large (Nagy) Family. Thanks to him I now live in central Budapest, a wonderful city I love very much and every day I am reminded by my surroundings of those events. God bless Hungary and it's people.

  • @billhanna2148
    @billhanna2148 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you 🙏AGAIN for your work 👍🙏 it's an excellent succinct informative flawless video 👍💪.

  • @VinylsRock92
    @VinylsRock92 Před 3 lety +15

    25,000?! I knew of the uprising but never knew it had cost so dearly

    • @papapara2916
      @papapara2916 Před 3 lety +1

      Probably more many who participated in the revolution were sentenced to death

  • @mr.n0ne
    @mr.n0ne Před 3 lety

    Great video. Very informative.!!

  • @edmundgerald9627
    @edmundgerald9627 Před 3 lety

    Nice history video with clearly explained

  • @DavidKutzler
    @DavidKutzler Před 3 lety +55

    The wife of a former employer was Hungarian, and, as a young teen, had escaped to the West with her family around 1960. While crossing the border, a young woman with their group stepped on a mine, and both her legs were blown off. They were forced to walk away and leave as the mine explosion and her agonized screams were attracting the attention of border guards.

    • @karobahuz3344
      @karobahuz3344 Před 3 lety +12

      My grandfather was a border guard in his early 20s after the revolution. He let many families through the border, but he had to be cautious because of the older guards, they were sometimes very cruel to the fleeing families.

    • @andreidarie4076
      @andreidarie4076 Před 3 lety +4

      Andrew Robinson WW2 was after the 20s. Don’t underestimate the viscousness of Bolsheviks/communists particularly in the Jewish communist officers under Bela Kun’s regime

    • @stephengopp9734
      @stephengopp9734 Před 3 lety

      @@andreidarie4076 WW2 start 1939 -1945 Hope you update yourself before
      giving us great infomation

    • @Alaryk111
      @Alaryk111 Před 3 lety +1

      @@andreidarie4076 He meant that his grandfather was 20something years old not that it happened on 1920'

    • @Pltlght2571
      @Pltlght2571 Před 3 lety +1

      @@andrewrobinson2565 Probably... they fought the red plague.

  • @dkwlin4351
    @dkwlin4351 Před 3 lety +12

    Please Remember the Hong Kong anti-extradition law Protest.
    1956 In Budapest
    2019 In Hong Kong

    • @jozefpisudski6952
      @jozefpisudski6952 Před 3 lety

      Heroes in West and East.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety

      I remember the Hungarian government declaring it an internal Chinese affair. My personal opinion is different, I genuinely believe in the 1984 Sino-British Agreement, though I don't like how some protesters looked up to an American president who doesn't believe in civil rights many of his own citizens would have helped Hong Kong.

    • @Sparrows1121
      @Sparrows1121 Před 9 měsíci

      Fascists and Tankies are the same thing. Change my mind

  • @mgl8753
    @mgl8753 Před 2 lety +6

    My dad fled Budapest in early November, a little under a month before his 8th birthday, and has described how the horrific images of bodies everywhere are burned in his memory to this day. He lived in district VIII, and I had no idea is was basically a central rebel stronghold. Thank you so much for this well-researched, and historically accurate depiction. Cheers!

    • @kidalcoholic4092
      @kidalcoholic4092 Před rokem +1

      My grandpa fled a town called Fehégyarmat, East Hungary. He was 19 at the time

  • @AuthenticDarren
    @AuthenticDarren Před 3 lety

    Very well explained Cold War Chanel. Thankyou.

  • @SPak-rt2gb
    @SPak-rt2gb Před 3 lety +9

    Made in Hungary 1956 born in the USA 1957 my mother was six months pregnant with me and they almost wouldn't let her get on the plane because they were worried of a miscarriage but the doctor finally gave the OK it was safe to fly

  • @DoraFauszt
    @DoraFauszt Před 3 lety +10

    The episode is awsome and put together simply, so everyone understands the situation right on the go.
    One thing I would point out is the inconsistentcy in the names. You used the family names first then the given names (e. g. Nagy Imre) but then flipped it when it came to squares and places (Zsigmond Móricz square iso Móricz Zsigmond). I don't mind I know them, but foreigners watching this may get confused.

    • @varana
      @varana Před 3 lety

      I think the non-Hungarian order is in the parts of the video they used from Historigraph while their own content (including the spoken word) uses the Hungarian order.

    • @gergomogyoros8644
      @gergomogyoros8644 Před 3 lety +2

      I believe place names have official translations to English, and they might not have wanted to deviate from those.

  • @pancakes3250
    @pancakes3250 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you.

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney Před 3 lety +1

    Ha! Everyone uses Historigraph's animations apparently. Great stuff!

  • @bencejuhasz6459
    @bencejuhasz6459 Před 3 lety +3

    I tip my hat to you guys,well done.

  • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
    @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 3 lety +14

    My Father was a Sailor on the USS Ft Mandan. That ship and others picked up and transported thousands of non-communist refugees from Hungary. As you said, there was a lot going on at that time and I believe the United States did not make this publicly known.
    I truly enjoyed this video. Remembering the story my father had told me about this one excercise, of many amazing things done on the USS Ft Mandan.
    Take Care and be safe, John

  • @attilarischt2851
    @attilarischt2851 Před 3 lety +25

    I'm sad you never mentioned the last transmission of Nagy towards the west where they were asking for help.

    • @JakobMusick
      @JakobMusick Před 2 lety

      I think I have heard it. I think it is online.

  • @remybien3277
    @remybien3277 Před 3 lety

    Great information.

  • @SymbiosisAndre
    @SymbiosisAndre Před 3 lety +24

    My father took me with him to fight for freedom against the communist regime. He talked about the west abandoning us when we needed help. The Russian tank gunners killed two of my friends not more than ten feet from me. In December we, my mother and younger sister, escaped under fire through a mine field to Austria unharmed. I still have flashbacks on that.

    • @cryptohalloffame
      @cryptohalloffame Před 11 měsíci +1

      my father also fled, along with his brother and mother, sad, my father was part of the golden team program for 8 years as a teenager player . . . obviously I wasn't too bad at soccer either, naturally a world class player, some thought I was one of the best in the world at 17

  • @IzzysTravelDiaries
    @IzzysTravelDiaries Před 2 lety

    Great video! I'm in Szeged and working on a video on the local history of 1956 in English. I was looking to see how much is available in English of the revolution and I was very happy to see your video! I'll link it to mine and just cover the local events.
    You generally say the Hungarian names pretty well, though "Nagy" is a different sound in the end. If you need any help in Hungarian pronounciation in the future, you can ask me.

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  Před 2 lety

      the "gy" sound in Hungarian was always a problem for me! But we are glad you enjoyed the video and found it to be useful!

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 Před 3 lety +103

    The birth of the "tankie"

    • @shawnv123
      @shawnv123 Před 3 lety +2

      cringe word but yeah that’s where tankie came from

    • @zurdddtk3025
      @zurdddtk3025 Před 3 lety +7

      The word which we tankies still wear with pride

    • @thefederalist7807
      @thefederalist7807 Před 3 lety +22

      @@zurdddtk3025 Imagine being proud of sending tanks to suppress popular revolts.

    • @zurdddtk3025
      @zurdddtk3025 Před 3 lety +4

      @@thefederalist7807 if those are the cia backed fascist lead revolts, highly YES why not? Crushing reactionaries especially of the national Bourgeois class is always good and even fun

    • @thefederalist7807
      @thefederalist7807 Před 3 lety +15

      @@zurdddtk3025 The Prague Spring wasn't even fascist.

  • @hayleyxyz
    @hayleyxyz Před 3 lety +9

    This is so sad. I was rooting for the revolutionaries even though I already knew the outcome.

  • @Matt_from_Florida
    @Matt_from_Florida Před 3 lety +6

    Around 1980 in Jacksonville, Florida I knew a man who was a teenager in Budapest when the H.R. happened in 1956. He fled the country with his parents and immigrated to the United States. He said *the normal Russian soldiers doing the fighting were told that the Nazi's had risen again and taken over Hungary.* He told me of a specific bridge (I've forgotten which) in Budapest where *the Soviets took the heads of those they'd killed and stuck them on top of the lamp-posts.* I never asked him if he'd been part of the fighting. It seemed he was just glad to escape alive and the thought he may have resisted never occurred to me until watching your video just now.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety +1

      I have never seen any verified beheadings, the only lamppost hangings I know of were done by rebels against ÁVH officers. The uprising was very complex, and yes, former Arrow Cross members and other antisemites did fight, and some even reached out to Horthy to come home (the former governor for life lived among other former Nazis in Estoril this despite the Nazis kidnapping his son).

  • @sandorkomlos6202
    @sandorkomlos6202 Před 3 lety +4

    Great video and pronouncing of the Hungarian names. My father and uncles were involved in the revolution and had to flee Hungary. They were adamant that the propaganda from Radio Free Europe had fueled hope there would be US and/or NATO intervention for a successful Hungarian revolution. You can hear that in the last broadcasts from the revolutionary radio station in Budapest during the last minutes of the revolution. Again great video looking forward to watching the next one.

  • @username19237
    @username19237 Před 2 lety

    Great couple of episodes. Sad to think of how close they were to a compromise.

  • @RedStarRogue
    @RedStarRogue Před 3 lety +7

    A bunch of Hungarian Forestry students fled the country during this time and actually finished their university education here at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver.

  • @stefanmolnapor910
    @stefanmolnapor910 Před rokem +2

    Just picked up a 53' M44, and being of Hungarian blood, this is interesting. My Hungarian family told me of this history, but it is another aspect to view it. They fought and started a new life for me and future generations.

  • @dzejrid
    @dzejrid Před 3 lety +115

    Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki.

    • @---uf2zl
      @---uf2zl Před 3 lety

      What does that mean?

    • @lynxrufus2007
      @lynxrufus2007 Před 3 lety +17

      @@---uf2zl A Pole and a Hungarian are two nephews. Meaning we're family.

    • @attilarischt2851
      @attilarischt2851 Před 3 lety +3

      It means he is a friend by default

    • @dominikbarsi746
      @dominikbarsi746 Před 3 lety +12

      Igazad van lengyel testvérem
      🇵🇱
      You are saying truth my polish brother 🇵🇱

    • @Graun
      @Graun Před 3 lety +2

      @@lynxrufus2007
      That is correct! ;)

  • @mohammadgharaeiyazdi4886

    so great!!!!
    please make more videos about the middle east during cold war era

  • @kecsek3496
    @kecsek3496 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm an 8th grader, and in Hungary we learn history starting in 5th grade. So just imagine: I waited 3 years, and about 5 months to finally learn about the Hungarian revolution. We only discussed the first day of the revolution today (and we'll learn about the rest on wednesday.), like how the peaceful procession turned into a bloody revolution.
    For me this was one of the most interesting lesson ever. :)

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 3 lety

    Thank you

  • @queenofdramatech
    @queenofdramatech Před 2 lety +1

    The Hungarian dances music is such a beautiful addition!!

  • @davidkovari4739
    @davidkovari4739 Před 3 lety

    Great video on the revolution of my home country, it was even more detailed than I remember from history class. I found only one mistake and even that is a small one. You guys or somebody who made video that showed Janos Kadar mispelled his name as Janos Katar. Otherwise, great job!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 3 lety +49

    I wonder "What If" the Hungarian Revolution had been far less radical and more moderate. And "What If" the moderates in the Soviet Government had prevailed when it came to Hungry. How different would history have been? My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

    • @cmoore9664
      @cmoore9664 Před 3 lety +9

      If that did happen it’s interesting to think about Hungarian and Russian relations would be today

    • @SOS-School_Of_Survival
      @SOS-School_Of_Survival Před 3 lety +10

      All Bosheviks want the same thing. To rule through over power over Gentilea.

    • @miroslavantonin9354
      @miroslavantonin9354 Před 3 lety +7

      iw would be same .. viz czechoslovakia 1968

    • @enchantressdeath1289
      @enchantressdeath1289 Před 3 lety +6

      @@cmoore9664 I'm not sure it would necessarily have an effect. The current Hungarian government under Prime Minister Orban and Fidesz has pursued a nationalist policy, one that has unfortunately somewhat antagonized some "mainstream" Western forces like the EU, for better or worse, and aligned ever closer with Russia, sympathizing with Putinist Russian nationalism, with which they share some similarities

    • @enchantressdeath1289
      @enchantressdeath1289 Před 3 lety +5

      @@cmoore9664 Mind you, I am rather sympathetic to Orban, but I don't agree with his friendliness toward Russia or Putin
      I'm not a fan of Russian revanchism, and indeed, am much more sympathetic to Ukrainian nationalism

  • @aranos6269
    @aranos6269 Před 3 lety +6

    Interestingly there were queues of volunteers in Leeds, England hoping to help Hungarians. They were refused passports by British home office. I have this from a friend who stood in that queue

  • @feha6580
    @feha6580 Před 3 lety +2

    Mad respect for the pronunciation of hungarian words and names, somebody must have helped who speaks the language or something cause it was top notch.

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 Před 3 lety +1

    You know, knowing that you're a Canadian based channel, every time I watch a video I can't help but think of Igor Gouzenko, and a novel I once read. I can't remember the title or author, but it was undoubtedly inspired by Gouzenko. A defector is being debriefed in a city that is cold, snowy and miserable. Through the entire book, you're led to believe it's a Western defector to the East. It closes with the defector looking out the window, across the snow, at the Peace Tower on Parliament Hill.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety

      Makes me think the channel should interview former West Germans who had an embassy in Nova Scotia where GDR citizens on their way to Cuba could and did file for asylum.

  • @earljohnson50
    @earljohnson50 Před 3 lety +4

    This and the Warsaw Pact Invasion of Czechoslovakia isn’t talked about enough even in history courses in college. Thanks for shining some light on this

  • @hungarianhillbilly4144
    @hungarianhillbilly4144 Před 3 lety +23

    On behalf of my father who took part in 1956 Revolution and Hungary. I just wanna thank the United States of America for dropping leaflets that read hold out help is on the way!!!!!! Thank you president Eisenhower for not lifting a finger and not allowing Spain to bring weapons or ammunition to Hungary. Which made the wholesale torture and slaughter of freedom loving Hungarians much easier. I'd like to think that if perhaps Hungary had oil or another resource that the US finds valuable they might have felt the need to spread some that democracy they talk so much about.

    • @akosbarati2239
      @akosbarati2239 Před 2 lety

      You can visit near Nagykanizsa where the former MAORT-owned American suburban houses still stand, which the American company lost in the 1947 show trial.

    • @HAM6BONE9
      @HAM6BONE9 Před 2 lety

      lololol

  • @websurfer191
    @websurfer191 Před 3 lety +14

    Very well written and presented. It's too bad that Hungary in 1956 became a casualty of the cold War.

  • @pedrogonzalesgonzales5097

    If you think the outcome would have been different if only the Hungarians had moderated their demands , think again. In 1968 Dubcek did just that. And received “ fraternal assistance “. in the form of Russian tanks
    The Ruskis have but one response to any attempt at independence

  • @noellephoenix9627
    @noellephoenix9627 Před 2 lety

    köszönöm

  • @BillThrobsme
    @BillThrobsme Před měsícem

    My grandparents met in Australia due to the uprising. Godbless those who took part

  • @the1ghost764
    @the1ghost764 Před 3 lety

    Nice 👍.

  • @a.champagne6238
    @a.champagne6238 Před 3 lety

    Check out the song "That's How Grateful We Are" by Chumbawamba. Its about the the Hungarians tearing down the statue of Stalin.

  • @Dartaen
    @Dartaen Před 3 lety +4

    3:43 "This crowd on Bem square then spontaneously..." I somehow expected you to say "spontaneously combusted" and burst out laughing. ;-)

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Před rokem +3

    My son-in-laws family was able to leave Hungary during the revolution when the Hungarians opened the border to Austria for a few days. They were the first family to arrive in Los Angeles as Hungarian refugees. His mother was the first child in their family to be born in the US. The Hungarians had hoped for help or at least diplomatic pressure from the West but alas-poor timing. The Hungarian revolution happened at the same time as the Suez Crises so that is where the gaze from the West was turned at that time. James Michener wrote a great little book about the Revolution as he was a UN observer at the Austrian border for the few days opening and talked to many Hungarians after they had crossed.

  • @lawsonj39
    @lawsonj39 Před 2 lety

    This was one of the earliest international events I recall; I was seven at the time, and I'll never forget the images of Hungarian refugees in grainy black and white on American TV. My father sent his WW2 uniform to help clothe them.

  • @bhutochakrabarti4173
    @bhutochakrabarti4173 Před 3 lety +10

    What is the name of soundtrack used at the end? Very good to listen to.

    • @zoltanercei1094
      @zoltanercei1094 Před 3 lety +2

      I think is Hungarian Rhapsody final part

    • @bhutochakrabarti4173
      @bhutochakrabarti4173 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zoltanercei1094 Thanks.

    • @csfelfoldi
      @csfelfoldi Před 3 lety +3

      It's the start of Brahms Hungarian Dance no. 4 czcams.com/video/HSNAy0ML-cg/video.html

  • @skywishr1313
    @skywishr1313 Před 2 lety +4

    never forget

  • @mantis2048
    @mantis2048 Před 3 lety +46

    Imagine being a mighty kingdom, then dual partner in one of the largest European empires, and then a few decades later being a small soviet satellite state. Poor Hungary

    • @balazskevin9495
      @balazskevin9495 Před 3 lety +2

      Sad story but true... :(

    • @KZ-xt4hl
      @KZ-xt4hl Před 3 lety +11

      I oppose soviet violence and oppression, I don't in any way support the control of hungry or any other country by any imperialist power communist or capitalist.
      With that out of the way, hungary had it coming, they spend 3 decades fighting on all the wrong sides and committing horrific shit, countries who behave like that end up in pretty bad positions unless you are a super power ofc
      edit: spelling

    • @wahlex841
      @wahlex841 Před 3 lety +3

      Well, none of this would have happened if it wasn't for their severe case of swollen ego 40-something years prior.

    • @Pltlght2571
      @Pltlght2571 Před 3 lety +4

      @@wahlex841 Zip it token!

    • @Pltlght2571
      @Pltlght2571 Před 3 lety +3

      @@KZ-xt4hl And as you can see Hungary is still there. We have survived the greatest empires the world has seen. And now you have it coming. We are coming.

  • @roy1299
    @roy1299 Před 3 lety +1

    Common interests.
    One wants to rule, so the bigger brother helps (it comes also with coercion).
    Looks similar to Occupied series.

  • @stalkinghorse883
    @stalkinghorse883 Před 3 lety +1

    It was during the Hungarian revolution that the west got its first good look at the then new Soviet infantry rifle, the AK-47. Many of the revolutionaries got their hands on them and they are seen in some of the photos that made it to the west.

  • @TheGeoDaddy
    @TheGeoDaddy Před 3 lety +8

    1956 - the year my mother fled Hungary - but her mother and sister remained. She made her way to Austria and accepted an arranged marriage with my father (who immigrated to the US shortly after the war and was sponsored by the US soldiers who captured him around Normandy as a 17 year old “soldier” working in NYC as a long shore man and then an accountant... also fought for the - right - side in Korea) my mother didn’t dare to go back until 1977 when her mom was dying and my brother and I got to see Communism first-hand... a neighbor at my aunt’s apartment reported “Americans” to the secret police... decades late I went back in 1992 and that same neighborhood apologized and became a close friend

    • @TheGeoDaddy
      @TheGeoDaddy Před 3 lety +1

      And, to think, as bad as things are getting to be here in the US of A, I’m actually thinking of moving back and retiring in my mother’s homeland... as it’s more affordable and safer 🤔

    • @TheGeoDaddy
      @TheGeoDaddy Před 3 lety

      Actually, it looks like the politicians in Australia and New Zealand have gone even WORSE Covid Crazy!?! Someone tell them that this virus 🦠 strikes old people with comorbidities and more young people still die of the seasonal flu... seen people arrested for not wearing masks out doors or planing to attend anti-lock down rallies!?! At least here there are Red States that pretty much tell the Blue States to f*ck off...

  • @inquiringtardigrade960
    @inquiringtardigrade960 Před 2 lety +6

    Ah, yes ! The Molotov cocktail.
    The official drink and proud sponsor of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution !
    Our uncle said people in their desperation broke off the handle of frying pans (palacsinta sütő) and tossed them onto roads, stopping entire tank columns in their tracks . The Russians thought they were land mines.

  • @lynxrufus2007
    @lynxrufus2007 Před 3 lety +15

    Thanks for this show. It is really important to remember the Hungarians' fight for freedom. However, you missed at least two important pieces of information: 1. you never mentioned card. Mindszenty and 2. in communist Poland there were widespread blood donations for the Hungarians, something that was quite opposite to the official policy of the communist block.

  • @iancuvlad7368
    @iancuvlad7368 Před 3 lety +3

    3:34 Now I know where this comes from

  • @tharos
    @tharos Před 3 lety +37

    I wonder if the French and British weren't too busy trying to grasp onto their collapsing empires, if the West would have taken a firmer stand in support of Hungary.

    • @The_sound_Of_Thunder
      @The_sound_Of_Thunder Před 3 lety +10

      No chance, they already gave away half of Europe by that time to as usually the "wonderful" and "prosperous" russian leadership

    • @digenesakritas1107
      @digenesakritas1107 Před 3 lety

      Our brethren the Greek Communists (Partisans of the Greek Civil War) played a vital part in crushing the Rebellion.

    • @Pvt_Badger0916
      @Pvt_Badger0916 Před 3 lety +7

      Very insightful comment there .. yeah mate let's just invade East Germany and Austria aswell Hungary just to help by causing a bigger war in 1956 .. maybe also look at the area's controlled by France and United Kingdom after the war .. excuse me America don't mind us just off to help the Hungarians with our armies just passing through ..

    • @varana
      @varana Před 3 lety +5

      Maybe there would have been more international condemnation. But that's about it. Whatever else was going on at the moment, intervening in Hungary would've meant direct conflict with the Soviet army itself. Avoiding that made the Cold War "cold" instead of turning the world (or Europe) into a nuclear wasteland.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 3 lety

      There is really nothing much they can do except actual war...

  • @mayukhmitra5819
    @mayukhmitra5819 Před 3 lety +25

    Alt hist hub: what if hungarian rebels did not fire on avh

    • @mayukhmitra5819
      @mayukhmitra5819 Před 3 lety

      A mini game should be made on this

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal Před 3 lety +6

      @@mayukhmitra5819 There is a board game called Days of Ire (Pesti Srácok) I have it I played it it is actually good. A tiny bit similar to Twilight Struggle. boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/192802/days-ire-budapest-1956

  • @amuthanboopathy5323
    @amuthanboopathy5323 Před 3 lety +3

    Early finally!!!

  • @coolgabe64
    @coolgabe64 Před rokem

    Kudos for pronouncing the Hungarian names and getting the facts right.

  • @kresimirskaro8935
    @kresimirskaro8935 Před 3 lety +22

    It's soo sad what happened to Imre Nagy he and the hungarian people are the real heroes.

  • @andraslibal
    @andraslibal Před 3 lety +78

    In Romania the aftermath was the abolishment of the Hungarian Autonomous Zone in Eastern Transylvania and the forced merger of the Hungarian state university - the Bolyai University with a Romanian university, the splitting off of the Medical University that they moved to a different city (that was only finally abolished in 2018). A lot of professors were sacked and the Romanians used the 1956 events to their maximum extent to go back on the rights they were forced to give to the 2 million Hungarians in Transylvania in 1948 (to gain back control of Transylvania from the Soviet troops that were protecting the Hungarian minority here from genocide). The Romanian state policy of destroying the Hungarian minority is unchanged, the end of the Cold War did not change it and the Romanian state used and uses every excuse they have to further cut back rights, take away churches, school buildings and close schools and Universities whenever they can. The Romanian president openly mocks Hungarians in national television, war cemeteries from WW1/WW2 that were left alone are now bulldozed over and fake Romanian crosses installed over Hungarian graves ... and the world does not care.
    Romania will use every single excuse they have against Hungarians they have been doing it for 100 years now, consistently, in monarchy, in fascism, in communism and in capitalism and "democracy". They are in the EU they are in NATO they are important to the Americans and the Americans decided that the rights of the Hungarian minority here are of no concern of theirs so the Romanians just do whatever they please, the president gets a Charlemagne medal one day and incites ethnic hatred on national television the other day, Europe could not care less.

    • @haraldkrausz
      @haraldkrausz Před 3 lety +19

      This bothers me to a great extent. Especially now, when there is so much discussion about cultural and ethnic genocide in Western countries. Unfortunately, Romania's strategic position provided them with a free pass to do whatever they want with their minorities. Meanwhile, Romania has a lot of good PR in the west presenting itself as a dynamic and hip country with great opportunities for growth, completely ignoring the authoritarian governing styles of their leaders. The Romania I see is a country in almost constant political turmoil where every leader plays the Hungarian card whenever their position is threathened.

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal Před 3 lety +5

      @@haraldkrausz thank you for your emphaty.

    • @WildBillCox13
      @WildBillCox13 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow. May the light of nonviolent truth carry you forward out of the clutch of your abusers.

    • @AndreiHarcaian
      @AndreiHarcaian Před 3 lety +12

      It wasn't a decision made by the Romanian people, actually students supported the Hungarian revolt, but by Gheorghiu-Dej, Stalin's favourite apostle in Romania, that was the de facto leader of Romania. Dej did all of this and was servile to the USSR in order to persuade Khrushchev to get the Red Army out of Romania and to gain some autonomy in the Soviet Bloc to direct Romania along a more nationalistic line. It is a shameful part of Romanian history.

    • @danculea7865
      @danculea7865 Před 3 lety +6

      This is funny considering that the Hungarians have oppressed and tried to force the majority Romanian population in Transylvania to Magyarize for hundreds of years. Now, to address your claims:
      1. "The Romanian state policy of destroying the Hungarian minority is unchanged, the end of the Cold War did not change it" - this is mostly false because in the regions with high Magyar populations the administration is usually bilingual and there's wide usage of Hungarian and even German in all official signs and documents. The education system offers students the possibility to study in Hungarian or even German, from kindergarten all the way to university without being discriminated against. As a matter of fact the political party Democratic Alliance of Hungarians in Romania (UDMR) has been part of a coalition government almost continuously since 1996. During this time the magyar minority not only has preserved its rights and minority focused institutions but has also gained some more, a list of them can be found here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Alliance_of_Hungarians_in_Romania
      2. "take away churches, school buildings" - during the communist regime all property belonged to the state, this includes any and all church property of any creed. Tt's true the state has done a poor job giving said property back in a timely manner to their rightful owner but it hasn't discriminated against anyone, be it a private individual or institution.
      3. "cemeteries from WW1/WW2 that were left alone are now bulldozed over and fake Romanian crosses installed over Hungarian graves" - the cemeteries were restored not too long ago by a Hungarian NGO and they only restored what they believed to be Hungarian graves. The problem here is that the graves they restored are very likely to actually belong to soldiers from a wide range of ethnic backgrounds as the Austro-Hungarian army had soldiers from more than a dozen different ethnicities (including Romanian), not to mention the likelihood that the soldiers buried there may have been from opposing sides. This has been seen as disrespectful by a lot of Romanians. I'll be fair and admit that the way in which the local authorities have tried to fix this issue has been rather shameful.
      Historically, there has been a lot of bad blood between Romania and Hungary, Romanians and Hungarians, and neither side is innocent. I'm sure everyone has an opinion on which side was worse. Not getting everything you want doesn't mean you're oppressed.