The WNBA CAN'T COME CLOSE to paying Caitlin Clark her worth! - Michael Wilbon | PTI
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Pardon The Interruption's Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon wish Iowa Hawkeyes phenom basketball player Caitlin Clark a happy 22nd birthday while discussing her situation with NIL deals at Iowa.
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Can’t believe this show is still on with Tony and Mike and hasn’t changed one bit. I was a teenager when I first saw this show.
Yes it’s nutty. I remember staying home sick from grade school watching this show and around the horn.
same lol. i was 16 or 17. now i am 33
Yup same here, nostalgic💯
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Very good show, don’t agree with everything they say but thought provoking
For those thinking she’ll make just as much/more. She likely won’t. NCAAB has more visibility & fan engagement than the WNBA. The wnba doesn’t have anything that even comes close to March madness popularity or even women’s ncaa regular season engagement.
So even she keeps the same sponsors it’s not likely they’d pay the same premiums for less visibility.
Unless she’s a star
As in for money, her nil deals will go with her to the league, she in fact will be earning more with her WNBA salary and her collaborations and deals. Caitlin doesn’t make money from Iowa’s attendance record, many agree she should, but it would be unfair as Iowa is a team sport. Popularity aside, the money she makes will grow larger, and with Caitlin that won’t stop even when she makes it out of the ncaa
@@chossone Lol wont matter, the WNBA has had "stars" before, still no one watches.
Maybe watch some caitlyn interview , she already explained her NIL deals signed the way that it will transform in PRO as well , she told her money will be not be impacted even if she goes to WNBA , so the money will be not factor in her decision.
All of that money will follow her to the WNBA.They don't need that league to market their products when these are global brands she has deals with. She will do just fine and that money will keep coming for her while in the WNBA
She's a lethal shooter. Shout out to her.
Beth Curry
She’s also a decent tackle
Wilbon is right. She won’t sniff anything close to this money. I remember Stacey Dales leaving the WNBA in the prime of her career to become a sideline reporter because it paid more than the WNBA. The WNBA is the sports equivalent of the witness relocation program. People always go missing once they enter the WNBA. Diana Taurasi and Britney Griner were both hugely popular as college athletes about the same popularity as Caitlin Clark and then they go pro and you never hear from them again (except for a mishap at Russian customs).
They do realize she's gonna make that same money from endorsements PLUS a salary when she gets to the WNBA right lol?
ehhh ot too much lol eve angel reece said she make more now then she would in the wnba
I was thinking that won't she have endorsement deals.
She likely won’t. NCAAB has more visibility & fan engagement than the WNBA. The wnba doesn’t have anything that even comes close to March madness popularity or even women’s ncaa regular season engagement.
So even she keeps the same sponsors it’s not likely they’d pay the same premiums for less visibility.
@@Roadrunner0077 WHo? the women who nobody talked just ride CC wave and fame? ofc she not going to make money cause nobody watch and care about her
On caitlyn side : She already told in interview the money will be not a factor in the decision to stay or go WNBA cause her NIL deals signed the way that its will transform into PRO as well, so she will not lose money at all , She is a brand with personal sponsor deals , not like any other collage basketball player. Her signed contract remains
@@fullfradi95 goofy that got nun do w what we talking bout and no she didn't ...how bout u mind ya business sir we was having a real convos
Why would her endorsements not follow her?
Lack of visibility. Womens college basketball far surpasses the WNBA in visibilty and support.
exactly lol
It sounds stupid this argument smh
endorsements are not part of team salary
It depends. What gets more ratings, WNBA or Womens NCAA Tournament?
she might play for a team who is compettiotors to her sponsor
What exactly is she worth when the WNBA loses money hand over fist .
a 1990s NBA contract
The WNBA needs Caitlyn she may be able to lead women into making better pay
In order for them to get better pay, they need an audience. The WNBA doesn't have an audience.
The only way womens pay improves in the WNBA or any sport is IF PEOPLE WATCH. It has nothing to do with society thinking women deserve to be paid less than men. TV deals, Tickets sold, merchandise, etc.. its basic economics. How can women in the WNBA get paid more if no one watches? Where would the money come from? Caitlyn going to the WNBA will do nothing for womens pay increasing LOL
Better pay? 😂😂😂 They can't draw flies they're lucky they're paid at all. The WNBA operates at a loss every year.
@@thenerdupstairs5705That's what OP is saying Clark has been Box office she can definitely improve the WNBA's numbers between herself and Reese we could see the league start making some $
@@thenerdupstairs5705 still mad you can't play basketball better than a woman? 😢
Yea ok send her to the NBA lets see how far she gets.
Yes they can! they can’t even afford to play every season because all the women they said will watch still haven’t figured out that there is a WNBA 😂 because there’s so many different things women want in life that there’s only so much time in the day and so many days in a year. And that’s the biggest problem, attention deficit syndrome at its best.
Plus, in most businesses, and most situations they would like Men to pay for their entire life and take the blame for their failure. But it does not work in business and or building a business.
WNBA NEEDS to recruit all of the big name players in women’s college basketball if they want to grow their audience and significantly increase players’ salary. Bring in players who audiences want to see. -Angel Reese, Rickea Jackson, Paige Bueckers, Deja Kelly, Janiah Barker, Caitlin Clark, nearly every player on South Carolina’s roster and the list goes on. Imagine the huge viewership increase if the current women’s basketball stars will play in WNBA. Wake up WNBA! You have a golden opportunity to change your trajectory.
lol, ain’t nobody going to watch an wnba game.
I’ll watch them in college. Once they go to woke WNBA I’ll release them.
Big name players have already been in the WNBA. This new wave won't change it
They wouldn’t agree to it because they’d get less exposure in the W. That would never happen.
Right now the WNBA salary is too high compared to the salary cap.
So teams cannot afford to fill up their rosters, and some of the rookies get waived.
Yup, stay in college, more money and respect than in the goof league. I seriously don't think Angel Reece for that matter will ever go to the WNBA. She's already celebrity, she'll make more doing something outside a league nobody watches.
Right now her salary is $0 so she will be making more money when she goes to the WNBA, the NIL deals will follow her
what are you talking about? right now her salary is over $800k he said it in the video.....
@@elijahmoran4842 her NIL deals with various companies are worth $800K, that money is not coming from her school, so her salary to play for her school is $0. And when she gets in the league she will have a base salary to play plus whatever she gets for her name image and likeness
@QuitaLovesSports is correct - her salary is zero, as is probably the rest of her teammates w/out NIL deals ... Nike, Gatorade, StateFarm 🤔 only $800K combined? $800K a piece would sound more fair.
Actually is 3mil this is copy paste from google.
Caitlin Clark has many NIL deals, including deals with The Vinyl Studio, Hy-Vee, H&R Block, Topps, Nike, Shoot-A-Way, Bose, Buick, Goldman Sachs, and others.With all of those NIL deals added up, reports say that she's making about $3 million
@@EliMoran-w8h After this season, especially if they win the"CHIP," I could see her NIL 5X to atleast $15M next season ... Then hopefully some of those deals will follow her to the WNBA ... Off-Topic, but I see a NCAA player strike coming due to many players not receiving compensation - especially High ranking ncaa football programs. 🤔🐢
Even if the WMBA max salary is "just a few hundred thousand" (which is still way more than 95% of Americans make), she will still likely be pulling in a million+ a year in endorsements. For playing basketball. In a league almost nobody watches or cares about. I feel a lot worse for a 50 year old warehouse worker making 50k a year than a 22 year old making over a million dollars a year to shoot hoops.
I do love how the women in the WNBA complain about making such a 'paltry' amount. And they play only about 32 games. They are making much more than most doctors and engineers while only having to work not even half a year.
She might be just what the wnba needs to explode even further
CC STILL ON IOWA NEXT SEASONS 🎉
Caitlin has never really seemed like the person to do it just for the money, so I really don’t think that will be a factor in her decision for staying or going. And even though the wnba doesn’t pay their players nearly as much as the nba players get paid, they still make a decent amount of money that you can live comfortably off of
I'm afraid she may get hurt in the WNBA. There are always a few players will resort to dirty play when they find out they cannot stop this great player in a game.
This is why the WNBA will forever be boring and terrible
People don't watch it, they will watch these young ladies play for their favorite college team. However once they turn pro those same people don't watch them play in the WNBA.
@@jlv3x I watch WNBA ball from time to time because Basketball is my favorite sport. Ironically, WBNA players make more fundamental mistakes than women’s college hoopers.
Exactly. I watch Clark play every chance I get... but I'm not going to follow her to the WNBA. It's almost apples and oranges. She might have put NCAA women's basketball on the map, but she ain't going to do it for the WNBA -- plus, she probably won't even like playing there nearly as much. As an aside, I've long thought Angel Reese isn't even looking at the WNBA -- she can just be a commentater, blogger, spokesperson, and millionaire -- without even going through the rigors of training and playing. @@jlv3x
The WNBA needs to fold. The NBA is losing money trying to keep the WNBA alive. Face it nobody cares.
All that NIL but I bet State Farm won't cover that collision.
😂
She thought she was still in game with that acting.
As a woman, I have never watched the WNBA & you couldn’t pay me to watch them.
That's why once the top female college basketball players leave school they can't make big money in the WNBA. Just like you, most people are not watching.
Not even for money? That's wild.
You're delusional for thinking that.
And that's why the league operates at a loss. Women wanna cry for equality but won't support each other. You'd rather watch 5 tramps on tv go to a day spa for Botox.
It's all about viewership. The more people watch, the more network coverage and advertising revenue comes in, and the more an increase in salaries can be demanded. This is where Caitlin Clark is revolutionizing women's basketball. Tickets to home games were sold out before the season even started. She and the Hawkeyes are selling out "opponent" stadiums. I have rarely, if ever, watched a full WNBA game. But I can promise you, when Caitlin goes to the WNBA I won't miss a single game she's playing in. Either will millions of other people. This will wake up both network coverage and the WNBA. I'm a 73 year old man and I feel like an excited teenager watching her play. This is what it takes...and she'll be changing this forever.
Old man believes brand deals stop once leaving college
They will. She wont make as much as she have as much viewership
What brands pay you to play in front of no one?
They will. How many WNBA players have deals?
She ran into that fan and flopped
She been watching too many Embid clips😂
Casuals
Reporter
It doesn't't make sense
bc Clark could have her deals still when she gets to the WNBA, right?
It depends. What gets more ratings, WNBA or Womens NCAA Tournament?
They need to make an exception for her. She needs to be the first million dollar salary player. She can literally change the WNBA
It makes no sense to compare NIL deals (which is sponsorships with companies) in college to WNBA salaries with no sponsorships with companies. She’ll still get the sponsorship deals, which may be even higher at the WNBA level. These two seem to be oblivious to what happened with Sabrina Ionescu, the star guard that came before Catlin Clark. Ionescu signed with Nike for a reported $24 million. Clark should be in line for a similar amount. Money won’t be an issue for Clark when she enters the WNBA.
she can make new deals, it's not that hard.
No one in the WNBA has deals like that. Players like Caitlin and Angel Reese are making more money off of NIL deals in college than the top players are making in the WNBA. That's why female college players are not leaving school early to turn pro. Many will be taking a pay cut to turn pro.
you would know huh ? lmao
I've been saying it all along also,the wnba simply is not good enough for her.
It’s not like the NIL money will be going away and she’ll gain a salary.
Can’t stay in school forever 😂
Clark is going to get her's. 36 out of the 40 games is nationally televised . Her sponsors are going to make sure she gets hers
Seriously? They just had this conversation about her NIL vs. WNBA a couple weeks ago, and everybody and their relatives commented about the lack of understanding that her biggest brands/deals are multi-year contracts that carry over. Yet, they still recycle that same misguided comparison that it is either $78K in WNBA or much more (these valuations they throw out are hokey and completely ineffective) in college/NIL.
I mean no one watch the WNBA so honestly yeah they can pay her her worth.
She's a queen off the court and a killer on the court. 👑
i didnt even know there was a female "pro" ball team
She will be fine money wise in the WBNA with endorsements. And I am sure the WNBA and her team (likely Indiana Fever) will market her like never before. The league has a great champion (Vegas Aces) and a couple of other popular teams and players. Here is their chance to gain traction, but hard not to be pessimistic.
LOL Caitlyn already explained : Most of her NIL deals will transform into pro career as well , she told in interview before that money side she will be not really effected even if she decide to go WNBA , i dont know why ppl keep talking about this
Is her/him trans ??? No disrespect. If she is pure woman she’s the best I’ve ever seen on the b ball court!!!
I wonder if they’ll cover up my last comment and call it femininestick or something weird like that because I’m being honest
Are you not allowed to have commercial deals in the WNBA?
Nominate for best actor award 2024
Why was she running that way😂 did someone forget to tell her the game was over?
yeah but she would still be making name image and likeness money in the wnba apart of her wnba contract so i mean she would be making more than she would be making now
Why should they pay him what he's worth! This Trans in sports has gone too far!!
NIL deals are awesome but nothing is saying that all those advertisers can't still sponsor Clark in the future. Caitlin can just make endorsements in addition to a WNBA check. People making college out to be way better are gaslighting people.
Facts
Has she declared for the draft yet?
Why not stay i college for another year and get that sweet NIL-money?
I think she should. And she would be playing in front of soldout crowds instead of ones that are about a quarter full like they are in the WNBA.
In a sense, she’s Magic Johnson or Air Clark 😂
Go Iowa!
are these two saying her endorsement will stop if she goes Pro???
She’s money💯🏀🔥
Next time i watch a wnba game, will also be the first time i watch a wnba game
So this is interesting...
Lets just assume for conversation sake, that this is true. Clark is making more off NILs than she would make playing in the WNBA.
If so, she and a handful of others (Reese, Buekers, maybe even Ionescu) in the next couple years have an enormous opprtunity to use their personal brands to do something the WNBA has never done since the day it started. Grow. Grow in viewers. Grow in ticket sales. Grow in overall revenue. Grow in exposure. Finaly turn the league into something profitable, not a write off for the NBA thats subsidizing it. Use your image to invest into that product. Pick up you fellow women in arms. Get them paid. Trickle down economics may not work outside of a vaccum like Regan envisioned, but in a vacuum like the WNBA, it absolutely WOULD!
She'll be like Michael Jordan who made way more off of endorsements, rather than his salary
So she won't go to the league then? Good thing she gets to make all that NIL money then
That’s because they don’t sell any tickets
Huh? She hasnt played 1 minute in the WNBA
Exactly everyone! Maybe she can stay in college forever. #SMH
She ain’t joining wnba anytime soon.
Now just waiting for her WNBA Debut!!!!!!!!!!!
She might as well go play with the guys
Break Pete Maravich's scoring record Caitlyn 😁
If Pete was aloud too play in his freshman year and there was a 3 point line when he played plus they play 5 more games a season now, he would have about 4800 points and nobody would ever catch him.
@@renovo56 OK
@@renovo56 Ok🤷🏽♂️
10x more than the WNBA?! Wow! She’s making a WHOLE $10,000!!!
10,000 more than you make from your "skills" 🤡
@@440-fishermandrock8 hope she sees this kid
Her net worth is $6mil and she just turned 22 today. How you lookin?
@@EliMoran-w8h hope she sees this bro
@@EliMoran-w8hshe'll burnout after college. Only place to go is the Olympic team.
all this hype and she still wont sell tickets
She will earn from the league what she brings into the business. Most everyone on this string commenting have never forked out the cash to attended a WNBA game in person. Most can't even name 3 WNBA teams. Her pay is a direct byproduct of your financial contribution to the league. Figure it out people!
How you know what ppl know? You just making a bunch of assumptions and telling yourself it's the truth.
future WNBA HOF, GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
She should go to NBA.
She might as well go play overseas
She's awesome
For all the eople in the comments who keep saying why wouldnt her endorsements follow....the team she get drafted too might be gatorade but she rock w powerade (just a example) so would cause coflicts w the team n money if they star is sponsored by the opps
Is this the guy Smith beefing with?
We know there are incredible girl Jordans and Bird's and Johnson's out there to be found. Wt @#R$# is going on with women's recruiting? I didn't watch until Clark cuz' it wasn't good ball.
Caitlin Clark is a DIME❤
Enjoy it, all down hill at the wnba
Stay in school. Make well over $1 million next year or go to the pros and make 72,000. That’s an easy decision. Stay in college. Playing in front of sold out crowds on the road as well as home. Be the face of the sport. Or go to the pros and get lost in a crowd of about 3000 people that will be watching. The NBA for women is a joke.soak up this, soak up all that attention because it’s well-deserved.
The WNBA simply isn't good enough for her. But she isn't good enough for the NBA, as great as she is. But she is worth her weight in gold for women's college basketball.
It's definitely not easy, does she get them same endorsement deals in college? NIL deals and what she getting from playing in the WNBA is different money. She can get money and attention in college, but she not getting the big endorsement deals until her feet is firmly in the WNBA, You clearly have no idea the difference with playing in college and making the league regarding endorsements and just focusing on a $72K contract lol.
@@trhansen3244 If the WNBA not good enough for her why is she not leading the league and her team a top team? She is barely shooting over .400 which is only good in baseball. Almost 6 TO's a game definitely not good. And her overall shooting is down from college. For somebody that played Bball too seems like she hasn't even figured the league out, yet to you she is too good for the league. Makes sense. I like CC and know she is still young unlike her fans, but sometimes her fans overhyped her game too much. Haven't played ONE season and somebody too good for that league is crazy bias thinking smh
@@jba414 Because she is too good for the WNBA. That includes her teammates, who constantly mishandle passes. Enough of this sophistry! I'm going to get some pizza cupcakes.
That's the beauty of the NIL deal! I'm all for it, any college athlete should be making money off themselves. NCAA and colleges have been banking off these athletes forever now it's time for the athletes to get some of that pie! Due to her making that kind of money once in the WNBA she won't have to play overseas if she doesn't want to. She's going to be drafted with money already in her pocket plus knowing how to handle her finances already.
Women’s bb so what
That’s sad WNBA players don’t really make what they should
She'll be the reason the wnba will actually be watchable
The same is true for cricket players and Rugby players. At least in the US.
She bulldozed that fan. They need to make her nickname the bulldozer
Why would anyone give a crap about that or her
Let’s see how how much of a game changer she is, she should draw in bigger crowds and more jersey sales and make the game overall more fun to watch
She's hiding in college if she returns next season.
Hasn't she already proven she can squash 18 and 19 year olds? Time to play some grown women.
WNBA y'all want Clark give her stake of the league she's not Angel Reese
lol 😂 she should join the big 3 lol they pay better
I believe CC could play PG in the NBA ❤
Wow though a accident ironic enough. It served as reason & proff as a random dude. Shows why no matter how much this woman. Cry that NBA money won't apply. No matter how hard they try. Cuz they're not worth the buck. After this how do they not know what's up. A small collision from average Joe yo. Left her needing support to get off the court. So to me honestly this is better than irony. It's more like poetry being poetic. Exposing the fantasy narrative that this women's play is worth the men's pay. At the end of the day proving how this women. Can continuously act & talk tough but it ain't enough. Cuz ultimately they're not made out the same stuff. Explaining why once again they're not worth the buck. Whiners can cry but the numbers don't lie. As the truth just was applied & I don't think anyone is surprised. This foolishness of women thinking they're equal physically to men gotta end why pretend? Sports are a entertaining business common sense should tell anyone. That woman aren't going to bring in the same revenue as men. Therefore make the same amount of money. Business 101 you've to spend money to make money. So why would any business organization. Hints the NBA spend more than what they're going to be making back in return? Yet regardless still on some real I know this WNBA women will. Be naive & self deceived continuously. Believing they're worth the money & can out play the today's NBA. But It's ok most know where the truth lay. It's just cap a poor group of delusional women's act. This ain't no attack just a fact.
Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese will be the Magic and Bird of the WNBA if they don’t mess it up.
she is worth more than what the WNBA can pay her. she is worth more than an entire teams salary. thankfully sponsors will get her the money, but its sad that her skills are beyond where the wnba is at right now. give it another generation or 2 and maybe the wnba will be up there with the nba, but they will need more stars like her in the league.
The problem is that sponsors only hire you or pay if you are bringing a lot of people to watch you. Unfortunately the WNBA is not really watched, so the sponsors might go away. Can Caitlin make a lot of people to follow her in the WNBA, we’ll have to see