Tru-Arc Bridge on Gretsch G5410T Rat Rod
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- I thought I would make a video for anyone interested in either the Gretsch 5410T Rat Rod guitar, or in upgrading their current bridge to a tru-arc, also, a little look at Pinegrove leather straps.
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I appreciate you offering gear tips. I just upgraded a Streamliner with a bone nut, roller bridge, heavier trem spring and a set of TV Jones (Supertron neck and Classic Plus bridge). It brought it to life! It plays amazingly. $300 for the guitar used, $520 for pickups (including parts and luthier) + $220 for the nut, spring, bridge and setup. Total $1040 for a great player that I enjoy as much as my 1990 5120-W Tennessean. So if you can't afford a $2500 Gretsch, anyone can get a good start with a $300 Streamliner that will sound amazing after a few upgrades! Its a good cheap platform that sounds decent stock, especially with some gain. The first upgrade should be the roller bridge or Nico's Tru-Arc bridge to keep it in tune after using the Bigsby. This upgrade can be done without an Aluthier (as Nico just showed us) and bridges are mostly inexpensive.
Thanks bro! Nice to see someone FINALLY properly mic’d their amp for a demo of this guitar.
Dude...you're hybrid picking skills are insane.
Thanks for the vid!
Thanks Biff! 🍻😸
So fluid!
I'm sitting here watching your pickup replacement video, and I'm pretty well convinced to buy a tru-arc bridge now... You got me sold.
I should work for them! 😂
Man cool guitar and playing, a werewolf poster, a skull, tattoos, everything you need!👍☠🙏
Thank you kind sir 🍻 🐺 💀
I’ve got a standard stainless TruArc on order for my G5622T. Can’t wait to get it and this vid really tells me I went the right direction. Love your playing brother. Cheers!
Cheers Jason! I’m sure you’ll enjoy it !
Sounds good, looks good and probably works well with the Bigsby too..... the bridge base is pinned on that model so you might have minor intonation issues, but I think the type and gauge of strings you use has a big effect on that.
Changing out the Gretschbuckers and fitting single coils will make a big difference to the sound. Look forward to it
Although I have just found a little new something with dearmonds so that might change the plans !
Came to check out the truarc and was stunned by the guitar playing! Awesome playing and picking very fluid and smooth. Thinking about getting a truarc with a 2 1/4 inch string spacing. 👍
Thanks very much! I love a tru arc, me !
That Tru arc bridge really does make a difference acoustically from what I hear. I was looking at the specs and the Rat Rod is exactly the same as the 5420T that I own (save for the pickups.) I might order one of these bridges. Great playing by the way. Love a Gretsch guitar. Thanks for the video
I ve changed the stock tune o matic bridge of my 2016 5420 for this serpentune brass bridge. This video helped me to choice an alternative bridge.
Thank you so much!!!
I would advice anyone to try this before upgrading pickups imho
That’s awesome thank you
Night and day difference. Sold!
That dude screams Punkabilly
crazy insane playing my friend
Thanks for your help mate It's much appreciated and helpful keep on rocking
Good timing! I’m looking for a bridge.
Found a late 50’s Old Kraftsman archtop to do a low budget rat build up with some spare pickups.
My Godin had Lace Alumatone pickups I took out and will install these in the archtop with a used Bigsby so I’ll try out one of those bridges.
I just upgraded my Godin to a pair of Lace Deatbucker pickups.
Thanks again for your videos.
I live in Canada and will be in Arizona Sept 20 to pick up the new / old archtop and hang out in the desert 🌵 for a few months to work on some cool lessons you provided.
I’ll order up one of your t-shirts and retire the GnR profile photo soon…
Thanks so much for the support! And keep me posted with your project! These bridges are great 😸
Cheers for this as I just got a Rat Rod and was considering an upgrade for the bridge as experience tells me that most stock tuneomatics need replaced. Great playing also.
Thanks! Yeah I love these tru arcs! Next I’m gonna look at pickups when the time is right, and then maybe tuners
Brilliant review...
I gptta get a Screamin Lord Sutch shirt. Bad ass🤘
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Fantastic playing. Thanks
Totally agree the Tru-Arc is a good upgrade worth considering. For those interested, I have posted an A/B comparison Original Tune-O-Matic Vs Tru-Arc video here: czcams.com/video/oDNDcOhDifg/video.html
Nice axe and great playing my friend ✌️
Sacheen Pukhrambam thanks very much ! 🙏🏻
I'm going to grab the rat rod in the matte black color. Looking forward getting it.
Excellent choice !
You play well. Nice guitar.
Thanks ! 🍻
Love the guitar and playing . Def buying after seeing this. Great job. Subbed to your channel. Love how chilled you are. Pints someday lad when the madness is over 🤘🤘🤘
Thanks a lot ! 🍻 sounds good
This is ironic. My Gretsch 6118T came with a rocking bridge exactly like the Tru-Arc you just fitted and I'm looking to replace it with a bridge that I can intonate because the guitar just won't play in tune higher up the neck. Currently looking at either a Compton Special compensated bridge or a Graphtec ResoMax NV2 tune-o-matic.
I can see why you might want an adjustable bridge, I have learnt that different guage strings will affect the tension on the bridge and therefore intonation. I feel like it would be less of a problem if the bridge were not pinned!
Fabulous..!!..🤙
Trident UK thank you !
hi you there! I'm very intrigued about the black rat rod,never had a Gretsch ,Fenders mostly,worth the money? so,I'm in love with that!gonna buy it soon
tnx 4 you precious videos
hi you there! always a good job!I just got a blk rat rod and didnt know anything about Gretsch! just a question: when you use the middle pu position do you set the volneck+ bridge full up? tnx I'm experimented'little hard for a Fender man cheers
Which tru arc did you get in particular I just want to make sure I order the right one for my rat rod
Hi mate, do you remember which bridge you ordered? I have a G5420t and I'm after one 😁
hi, I've got same guitar model, and also i love lower action, im thinking change to tru-arc bridge, i saw the wood from old bridge is. same so i need only to change the steel bridge?, thanks for share your experience. This guitar is great.
The site of tue-arc is strange there is no link to buy, is only accesible from usa? im from spain(europe)
TKS
Oh, that bridge keeps things sweet. I always thought for a Bigsby a bridge with those wheels was the way to go too. Does the action stay nearer on the Tru-arc than the initially odd wheeled bridge?
You can definitely get closer with the tru-arc! The fact that the radius is matched to the neck means a lower action is possible 😸
Great demo and playing 👍 I‘m looking to buy my first Gretsch and heard you mentioning also owning a g6120... For a first buy, would you go the rat rod or the g6120? Thanks man
Hi that’s a good question!
I think it depends on your budget, and what kind of other guitars you are used to playing. You will definitely enjoy the rat rod, and for the price it’s amazing. The build is great and it plays really nicely. If you have the extra budget for the 6120 you will notice the difference though. The pickups will be more ‘gretschy’ whether you go for filtertrons / tv Jones or dyna style pick ups. You might find a pro level 6120 nicer to play as well. I would recommend trying all the guitars out that you can if that’s possible, you might just fall in love with one and the answer then becomes a lot easier. My 6120 is the RHH mode with TV Jones classics. There is also the option to mod your rat rod so you could you also find pickups you like and drop them in.
Hope that helps 😸
@@DEATHRAYCAT Thanks for your insight, I appreciate that. I‘m used to all sorts of Gibsons and Fenders of different neck shapes, Trems and so on - but never had a Bigsby equipped guitar and really always dug the Twang of Filtertrons... The RHH is a stunning guitar 👌
Hey man what kind of strings do you use for it to intonate that well? And what brand)? I got one too
Hi, that's a cool video about the Rat Rod! I have the black one for about two weeks now. I really like the sound and the playability but every time I slightly touch the Bigsby I'am out of tune. Do you have any ideas how to fix that problem?
It could be a number of things but one thing to check is how the strings have been strung up. If it has too many winds It could cause a problem. it also could be that the nut needs lubricating, but also if you've only had it 2 weeks it may be adjusting to your home still? There are some good threads on the Gretsch forums and some groups on Facebook about how to string up the guitars to avoid tuning issues. It wouldn't hurt to take to a luthier to have it set up professionally, but I know that might be frustrating as you just got the guitar. Another thing to check is that the strings are all straight and evenly spaced between the Bigsby and the bridge. You could also pop some graphite ( from a lead pencil ) in the nut slots and bridge slots to help lubricate the strings. I hope that helps !
@@DEATHRAYCAT Hi Nick, thanks for your advices! I have already tried a few things. The strings have only one winding and I use "Big Bends Nut Sauce" at the nut. I also tried different bridges and as long as I don't use the Bigsby the tuning is really stable. Anyway, somehow I'll get this thing going. Really like your channel, looking forward to see more videos. Greetings Tom
As mentioned above a bit of lube is often the solution... in the nut slots, on the bridge where the strings rest, and even on the vibrato roller bar where the strings rest. Essentially anywhere the string touches and there could be friction.
This is also assuming that your nut strings slots are wide enough to avoid friction or binding. I have a Gretsch Duo Jet Firebird w/vibrato, and with a dab of string lube where needed the strings all stay in tune without issue.
I've got the Reverend Horten Heat model and that tune matic bridge buzzes. I think that bridge would help. Thanks
Nice one Vince! It helped for me in many ways!
@@DEATHRAYCAT What bridge are you using on your Reverend Horton Heat ?
also I love your video's and your style of playing. My living room looks the same Bats and Skulls and vintage guitar Equipment.
Hey, sounds great! Did you go with the 54-2 Tru Arc Bridge? I'm going to get one, just wanted to be sure it's the proper one. Thanks!
I can't remember! However Tim at TruArc was very helpful indeed and will make sure you get the right size
So, that bridge sounds great but, it's a fixed, or, "pinned" bridge, I'm just concerned about replacing my adjustable tunomatic with a true arc or a common because i'm worried if, for some reason I need to adjust intonation, my bridge is fixed. you seem to have just dropped it in, any issues with intonation?
I have a Brian Setzer signature 6120 with fixed bridge.
This bridge is pinned, it seems to be close enough for me!
My bridge saddles were the hardest to turn!
I took it off, sprayed WD-40 all over the threads. Worked the saddles back and forth.
Anybody else have this issue?
I'm going to try a Tru Arc Serpentune on a Brian Setzer model. Not sure on what metal to try though?
How was your intonation mate I'm thinking of one for my 5420
The intonation is fine to my ears !
Did you need to adjust your truss rod or just string height mate
@@kevintaylor8055 I changed the height of the bridge with the thumb screws., I haven't touched the truss rod on mine : )
@@DEATHRAYCAT thank for your help nico it's much appreciated keep on rocking mate
Very nice! Does the bridge come pinned/secured like that or did you do that yourself?
It came like that! Makes life easy !
@@DEATHRAYCAT thanks man!
Hi Nico After changed the tune o Matic bridge with the tru arc, have you changed Also the Action?
Hi Marco, yeah I had to bring the bridge up a bit with the thumb screws as the bridge brings the strings closer to the fretboard !
why doesn't "G" just put them on in the factory?
Good question! I guess they would have to charge more, and some people prefer an adjustable bridge! 😸 Some of the pro line Gretsch guitars come with bar bridges, such as the players editions, I believe 🤔
What is so special about the Tru Arc Bridge?
Hi mate does the tru-ark have to be bigsby compensated for me 5420 cheers
Hey Kevin a ‘bigsby compensated bridge’ is a kind of bridge in itself, those are cool too. Tru-arc bridges can come standard (like a bar, like on my rat rod) or they can be ‘compensated’. Their mode which is compensated is called the ‘serpentune’.
It’s up to you whether you want your tru arc compensated or not. When it is compensated it means that the minor adjustments for correct intonations are made in the actual shape of the bridge.
Does that make sense? If you look at a photo of a serpentune it might make more sense. Personally to my ears a standard bar bridge is fine but some people prefer the compensated bridges as they are supposed to have better intonation. I have one on my 6120RHH and it’s great but I am also enjoying the standard bar bridge tru arc on my rat rod.
I think either would work on your 5420. If you chat to Tim from tru arc, he will help choose the right model. Tell him I said hi !
Hope that helps
Excellent playing and sounds great.
I'm hoping to order a tru arc for my G5420t which is pretty much the same guitar.
Did the standard 74mm post spacing fit? Or did you have to order one with custom spacing?
Thanks
Thanks Steve! I went straight to tru arc and told Tim what I had, he knew what I needed, I think it was a special order because of the spacing
@@DEATHRAYCAT Thank you for the reply, I'll send him a message
@@stevelowe9449 hey, did you end up getting one? Was it the 54-2? Looking to order one but can't see one for this specific model
@@RByrne I emailed the chap at true arc and he knew which one it was.
Unfortunately it took 2 weeks to get a reply, so in the meantime I bought an ABR roller bridge. It's made of bell brass, precision engineered, and fully adjustable for intonation. It's about £100 but well worth it.
Sadly by the time try arc replied I'd had this on a week and see no need to change it.
Sorry not much help if your heart is set in the tru arc.
@@stevelowe9449 thanks! I'm not really set on the tru arc at all, I'll try whatever is easiest to get right now between the 2.
So if I want one of these bridge how fo I get one or do I have to email him and send my info
Hi,how many mm are there on the 12 fret
Which Tru-Arc bridge model are you using in the video? (Which one from all the available options will fit that guitar?)
Hi it was the standard stainless steel model, you need to specify which guitar you have when ordering but Tim is very helpful and will make sure you get the right one!
how does the fingerboard feel on this guitar?
Mine is lovely! I could play it all day and sometimes do !
How is intonation set?
I believe It's designed to be as close as it will go. I don't notice any problems higher up the neck but it will never be perfect! Close enough for rock and roll
Does it stay in tune well?
It’s not the best but I’m waiting to get it back from a set up guy so the jury’s out
Hotrodm.
How do you adjust the intonation with this bridge, or isn't it an issue?
You don’t really, it just gets you ‘close enough’ there is an option to get a compensated bridge, which is designed to be more accurate. The kind of stuff I’m playing, I’m not worried about perfect intonation. And I can’t hear any problems, but that’s just me !
@@DEATHRAYCAT.... thanks for the response. I've got the same guitar and looking at improving/modding (got my eye on some TV Jones pickups, their T90 for the neck and Setzer Signature for the bridge) so gonna have a look at your T-Armond video
@@pmbiff that sounds like a great combo!
A very valid question! First of all, I was one of the first adopters of G5410t and I just had so much bad luck with mine. One of the tuners was not working properly, so ended up changing to Grover tuners. I have a Tru-Arc on my 5420t so decided to get one to my 5410 too. First there were no problems at all but after a while, the intonation went really bad. I finally had to change to a ABM roller bridge.
@@DeLaRockaMusic I like the look of that bridge, I bet it helps with tuning! I’m probably gonna change the tuners on mine at some point too. But they are ok for now!
That makes it sound tin-ny. Put the original back on.