SIPE - 5 medical things swimmers should know
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- Medical conditions affecting wild swimmers & expert medical advice for wild open water swimmers from experienced swimmer Doctor James Douglas. Thanks to Dr Douglas at the Tweeddale Medical Practice, Fort William and NHS Highland.
00:00 Start
00:48 Transient Global amnesia
02:26 SIPE Swimming induced pulmonary oedema
03:48 Swim limiting conditions
05:10 Dealing with cold water
06:58 Rewarming after swim
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If you have any specific medical questions after watching this video, please remember I'm not a doctor so probably can't answer them. (That's why I sought advice from Dr Douglas!)
Excellent information, thank you..
Fascinating, thank you. I fell in the river once but that's a different story!
Great tips for safely enjoying a wonderful pastime. Super that AAA both encourages and informs folk about how to get out there and enjoy nature and their body both safely and responsibly!
Thanks James.
Very interesting. I've just started sea swimming this last week and was talking to a lady in the water the other day who experienced the memory loss thing. She went to A & E where they thought she might be having a stroke. After yesterday's swim I think I may have experienced the early stages of after drop. There's a lot to learn!
I'm pleased this interested you Simon - as it did me. It wasn't a video we originally planned, but realised it something we all ought to be aware about.
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For the feet cold : the sock exist with usb 🔑 ! Is verry cool and warm after wild swiming ! 5 hours possible ( i am one pair ) try it !
These are brilliant - I cycle a lot, but really want to swim more, especially outside.
This is the time of year to start Brian
Good one, I`ll pass this one to a friend that is an avid wild swimmer. Also, the hands will get toastier if one wears mittens instead of gloves. Especially with the two piece combo of wool mittens and either Ventile or Gore-tex shells. :-)
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Post-swim hypoglycemia needs to be discussed. After three wild swims in a day and not enough food I couldn't think straight on the drive home. I nearly had an accident on the drive because my brain wasn't working properly on low blood sugar. Only after food did it get better. Cold water immersion makes a big demand on your glucose levels, and the risk of post swim hypoglycemia is definitely a thing from my experience.
That's a VERY good point Toby, thanks for making it.
Thanks Toby, yes hypoglycemia ( short of sugar) can come on in healthy people after extreme exercise. I remember this in a young man who had cycled 140 miles to see his new baby and was stopped by the police as they though he was drunk. However, the most common cause of hypoglycemia remains diabetic medicines in people who know they are diabetic on treatment. It will correct quickly with high calorie food or drink. In wild swimming it is best not to eat a big meal before swimming with risk of vomiting or taking blood away from the heart. So maybe a slow burn pasta more than 4 hours in advance would help. You could take your sugar between swims with a sweet hot drink if you are planning 3 in a day and rewarming in between. However your negative thermal balance will be cumulative with each additional swim.
@@jamesdouglas4726 good ideas. After that incident I've always kept some glucose sweets on hand just in case I overdo it on a swim.
Acute Pulmonary Oedema - what are the circumstances that bring this on, assuming there’s cold, high blood pressure & immersion of the face? Can it come on very quickly in a few minutes, or is this a risk at longer distances / durations? Thanks 😊
I don’t know Tara. I just made the video.
Interesting video. How much time do you usually spend swimming and does it vary depending on time of year?
Yes Kevin, duration is very temperature dependent and, of course, on swimming ability (ie strength). For us, 12c seems to be a key temp. Below this, we're very aware of duration. The further the loch rises above 12c, Liz in particular can swim for several hours.
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Came upon you. Quite by accident. Really Enjoying the VLOGS. I am really interested in wild swimming. But where do I start? Will any river, canal lake or sea etc be good to start? You mention about get used to the cold of the water? Is this to go in and estimate how long to start and then build time on the first experience? What equipment might a beginner require to start. Will pair of rubberised sandals/ flip flops do. Then there is after the swim. What should I do etc? Are you able to help for a complete novice. Thank you once again for the great VLOGS
Hi Gordon - glad you like the videos, let's see if I can help you get started.
The best way to start is to go with someone who knows what they're doing. That could be a commercial operation, which would clearly depend on where you live. But the way most people get going, and one I'd recommend, is to find local outdoor swimming group. For all its sins, Facebook is a remarkably useful resource for this. Such groups are usually extremely friendly and encouraging, with folk who're happy to share their knowledge. The only bias you might come across is that some 'skins' swimmers feel wetsuit swimmers are cheating, but this is a rare view.
The Outdoor Swimming Society (their website is a great resource) also maintains a list of swim groups, but I know from all the smaller groups here in the highlands that the list is incomplete. Still, it's another place to start. www.outdoorswimmingsociety.com/uk-wild-swimming-groups/
Rather than try to answer the other questions you've asked, which actually need me to ask you some questions first otherwise the answers are 'it depends', I'd prefer to let you find some experienced swimmers and chat with them. They'll keep you right.
Hope that helps and come back to me if necessary. Oh - and enjoy it!
@@alwaysanotheradventure that is fabulous thank you. I love in Yorkshire, so excellent for wild water swimming. I will contact a club etc and see if I can progress further. Keep up the great vlogs
tweeddale lovely area
main tip dont start wild swimming in winter start in summer> try and swimming with others especially at isolated places > carry extra warm clothes in the car and a sleeping bag just in case your car wont start > this happened to me and I started with hyperthermia > never over stay in cold water in winter > remember you have to walk back to where you came from
Thanks for those Vicky - all really good tips.
My balance goes out the window in cold water, I look like a drunkard when I come out the water.
Have you tried earplugs? They work for me.
@@alwaysanotheradventure It's a good idea, I'll try it thanks
Good content, but no talk about afterdrop that…
Can’t put everything in every video. That’s covered in the other cold water videos. Although the science on afterdeop is changing.
@@alwaysanotheradventure yes just watched a couple of your other videos. Good content curious what you mean by the science is changing on afterdrop ?
@@cynicalmonk870 it was thought and reported (by me too) that it was caused by cold blood recirculating. Now it’s thought to be conductive cooling. This explains it: www.outdoorswimmingsociety.com/warming-up-after-drop/