8K Raw with no overheating | Canon R5 & Ninja V+

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    Chapters:
    Intro - 00:00
    The main questions - 01:12
    Image Quality - 02:07
    Overheating tests - 02:40
    Conclusion - 04:05
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Komentáře • 253

  • @issacissac9861
    @issacissac9861 Před 2 měsíci

    Is it just me or does anybody else have anxiety watching that 70-200 hanging in midair on that tripod? 😂 The confidence in that R5 mount is undoubtedly high. thanks for the very informative and to the point video ❤

  • @1HDBIZ
    @1HDBIZ Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks. Looks like a great combo indeed...

  • @DjMytza1
    @DjMytza1 Před 2 lety

    first time on this channel
    I must say that the video is brilliant.
    I really needed this to makeup my mind about purchasing the r5
    thank you

  • @mcneilbelle
    @mcneilbelle Před 3 lety

    Hey ProAv it’s McNeil from Boston remember I asked you about this whole ProRes Raw for the canon R5 update and the possibilities on your Q&A about a month ago and look at this man this my day I’m so excited and It’s everything I dreamed of thanks for this review

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for watching! I’ve been excited for this update for a while
      Carl

  • @ecmjr
    @ecmjr Před 3 lety +1

    Great Video! This is a fantastic 8K setup.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for watching
      Carl

  • @scottievee7467
    @scottievee7467 Před 3 lety +4

    The R5 is my back to the Canon C70. I was very happy with it already. Now I feel I made a very good purchase. All the new stuff coming out had me thinking I should have waited. Nope! Thanks for confirming sir.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      Very glad you are happy. The c70 and r5 are a fantastic combination
      Carl

  • @Gareth_Walker_Photographer

    Brilliant video as usual! R5 and V+ looks a winning combo but I’d still love to see a 4K RAW option on the R5 so easier to edit and less storage media data hungry.

    • @SeasonAscent
      @SeasonAscent Před 2 lety +6

      The update also allows 5k raw (cropped, 1 to 1 pixel read out) in both 24/25p and 50/60p.

  • @dglatz01
    @dglatz01 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video as usual. If I lived in the UK I would buy everything from you guys!! Cheers.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      We do ship worldwide! But thanks!
      Carl

  • @TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV
    @TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV Před 3 lety

    Impressive thx @ProAV Tv

  • @ProEditingLooks
    @ProEditingLooks Před 2 lety

    awesome
    love from Pro Editing Looks

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching
      Carl

  • @alejandroortiz4565
    @alejandroortiz4565 Před rokem

    Thanks 🙏👍👌

  • @Jakevx1k
    @Jakevx1k Před 2 lety +1

    Did you notice any improvement in the IBIS? I didn't see any notation in the firmware notes but I have seen some other videos of people mentioning it. Specifically curious on improvements with the RF 15-35mm 2.8

  • @kingsgard-films9623
    @kingsgard-films9623 Před 2 lety

    Really nice review Pro Av ! But please tell me which hdmi Cable you use ?

  • @chrisiclickyou3947
    @chrisiclickyou3947 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you text 4k HQ mode on time limits and also on quality compared to atomos recording.

  • @Dean_WeAreTheShow
    @Dean_WeAreTheShow Před 2 lety

    greetings, I’m wondering what are the options for dnx codec with the ninja v+ and r5 since I use resolve. specifically what modes can it record the dnx codec in?

  • @Aaron-Almquist
    @Aaron-Almquist Před 2 lety

    Can you capture RAW video internally on the r5, then capture playback on the Atomos to effectively convert it to ProRes raw?

  • @zagorcuk1966
    @zagorcuk1966 Před 3 lety +5

    I would appreciate an overview of possible packages to make a setups based on this combo(R5 and ninja 5+). How to record (hq) sound and bring it to the editing. Combine it with tentacles? What are the options?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety +2

      You’d want a decent R5 cage to protect the hdmi port and mount the ninja. For sound there’s lots of options. The 32 bit recorders like the tentacle track E or zoom f2 are great if that fits your workflow but there’s lots of other options
      Carl

  • @bmbfilmshd
    @bmbfilmshd Před 3 lety

    Great video bro

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for watching!
      Carl

  • @ShervinShares
    @ShervinShares Před 2 lety

    What’s the mount you’re using on top of the R5 to the Ninja?

  • @sanghunlee5101
    @sanghunlee5101 Před 3 lety +1

    Please turn on the CZcams translation function.
    The automatic translation subtitle function is disabled.~^^

  • @ahrensteis3722
    @ahrensteis3722 Před 2 lety

    Is the HDMI cable a limiting factor? I can't get 8k RAW to pick up on my V+.

  • @misterdeity
    @misterdeity Před 2 lety

    Where can you get an HDMI cable for the R5/Ninja V+ with a right angle to record 8K?

  • @iameddieruiz
    @iameddieruiz Před rokem

    Thanks for the content! I know this pertains to the R5 but I'm currently using the R5C with the Ninja V and I can only get 13 minutes (4K) of record time from the Ninja until it shuts down after overheating. Will the Ninja V+ solve this issue since it can handle a high resolution input?

  • @markjob6354
    @markjob6354 Před 3 lety +18

    *I'm starting to re-think my decision to pass on purchasing a Canon R5. If there's an alternative way I can shoot in 8K without the production process suddenly stopping due to a way to avoid camera overheat and shut down, then this puts the R5 back in contention as a usable production camera in 8K.*

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +8

      I completely agree, I think this makes a big difference and really improves an already great camera
      Carl

    • @daniellove162
      @daniellove162 Před 3 lety +4

      I LOVE my R5 but the internal codec is problematic (for now). A ninja V allowing ProRes capture is very useful.
      I bought an R5 as an A cam that could eventually be a cinematic B-Cam as it does DCI and actual 24p. I would have gotten the FX3 a “cinema” camera but it could not do this.

    • @markjob6354
      @markjob6354 Před 3 lety +3

      @@daniellove162 Interesting to learn the R5 can actually do DCI 4K Resolution (4096x2160 pixels), and not just the Ultra HD (3840x2160 pixels), and not so called "pseudo" 24p, which is really (23.976p), and can actually also do "True 24.00p." One more reason to get it. I don't like 23.976p. I like shooting true Cinema Sound Speed, which is 24.00p.

    • @Angelo_Paduraru
      @Angelo_Paduraru Před 3 lety +2

      @@markjob6354 yes, R5 Shoot true DCI 4096x2160 in all modes, at true 24fps, also DCI is there for all FPS available, including 4K 120p. Only in full hd there is not dci but who else use full hd today…

    • @zagorcuk1966
      @zagorcuk1966 Před 3 lety +3

      @@daniellove162 yes...suddenly the FX3 and FX6 have competition....which both have no 8k and there is no DCI in FX3 (!!) , the question "what about sound?" is still in place. What are the added costs for decent (pro) sound?

  • @letsrockmusicschool5491

    Can this record Raw 4k 120p with sound or Clog 4k 120p with sound. I don't like that they cannot record sound in the R5 body I have. I would love to buy this if this can help record sound without slow motion. Then we can slow mo later. Thank you

  • @wamui2007
    @wamui2007 Před 2 lety

    Do i need insert a CF Express card to EOS R5 while recording with Ninja V?Thanks for your reply

  • @ChristianWheel
    @ChristianWheel Před 2 lety

    What arm is that holding up the Ninja on the shoe mount when the camera is in the studio (3:03)?

  • @AndrewRayFilms
    @AndrewRayFilms Před 2 lety

    I just received my Ninja V+ for my R5 but none of my micro HDMI cables seem to send the raw video - do you recommend a specific cable?

  • @januszciechowskiphotograph7297

    Hi how about 4K 120 fps dose it overheating ?

  • @blaspayri
    @blaspayri Před 3 lety

    maybe one day they discover the fan and implement active cooling on the R5. Very interesting video

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      I would love to see a more video oriented version of the R5 with a fan and exhaust like on the S1H. But I don’t think Canon will ever do that. They wouldn’t have included it on this as it would make the camera more bulky and less weather sealed for photographers.
      Carl

  • @GroupIII
    @GroupIII Před 2 lety

    Wow great news

  • @FamilyofTech
    @FamilyofTech Před 2 lety

    Do you think this monitor will eventually work with the new Red V Raptor ?

  • @vic_kris
    @vic_kris Před 2 lety

    at 2:19 a strong moire is visible on the prores raw in the water

  • @sdm2
    @sdm2 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for the video! Have you tried recording with the LCD screen on? I think the is the big test for me (and prob others as well). I have the Ninja V and can record all day if the LCD screen is not on. However, if it's on, I only get around 40 mins or so before overheating warnings. The thing is, I need the screen most of the time for focus, etc. I was excited at first to watch your video, but then noticed the LCD screen was off during most of the time test. I would love to know how long it will go with the screen on. Thank you again !!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +2

      It’s a good question! We can maybe test that
      Carl

    • @axelfiraxa
      @axelfiraxa Před 2 lety

      It is indeed the LCD causing the heat issues. You can run the recording until the battery dies with the LCD off. With it on you will stop around 44 minutes.

  • @danmoraes1715
    @danmoraes1715 Před 2 lety

    If I set the stand by mode to ON, and output Raw, it doesnt affect the signal output? If instead of RAW im on 4K HQ with the stand by mode ON, the output signal is the 4K HQ?

  • @birding_by_ear
    @birding_by_ear Před 2 lety

    What hot shoe monitor arm is that? I looked on your website but couldn’t find it. Thanks!

  • @gearienoxcuses3936
    @gearienoxcuses3936 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video but I must state that by using a battery grip you may have bypassed the internal battery's heat contribution to the in camera o.h. issue. Most people would want to use the internal battery for run and gun work. Being that it's a mirrorless camera the convenience of it's smaller form factor is one of it's most attractive attributes. The external recorder does add size to the setup so using the internal would be most convenient.
    That being said I so appreciate your very detailed review. Stellar as always.

    • @axelfiraxa
      @axelfiraxa Před 2 lety

      It was actually tested by a separate reviewer. There is only a 9 minute diference at room temperature

  • @SDA-Sound
    @SDA-Sound Před 17 dny

    Does the HDMI port/camera functions operate without a CFexpress card in the camera? That’s why those cameras over heat. I have the gfx100ii those cards are just ridiculous. I mean def a bad idea to leave them in a card reader too! Talk about fire hazard lol

  • @furkanunal977
    @furkanunal977 Před 3 lety

    Can you try Ninja V+ with FX9 HFR 120fps
    it would be craziest shot of youtube

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ Před 3 lety

    And with the snap of a finger, sales for both items took a welcome jump.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Well we will see. They do make a very powerful combination
      Carl

  • @Solaris501
    @Solaris501 Před 2 lety

    Does autofocus work the same with a ninja?

  • @patrickhagot
    @patrickhagot Před rokem

    Can’t find the way to record 4k120 raw or not both i can’t?!

  • @flashlightstudio5399
    @flashlightstudio5399 Před 2 lety

    I’m waiting for R5C I heard it doesn’t over heat

  • @Hkmmotologs
    @Hkmmotologs Před 3 lety

    waiting for Black magic external recorder to support 8k raw.. for their BRAW format.. No use for me personally with the ProRes RAW because I don't us MAC or FCP.. and it's not supported in Resolve and Not easy to work with it in premiere pro either :(

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      I would love that, simply so that we can grade in resolve. As it’s so much better for colour than fcp
      Carl

  • @DreadinNY
    @DreadinNY Před 2 lety

    Damn micro HDMI. Which HDMI cable are you using between the canon and the Atomos?

  • @lecolintube
    @lecolintube Před 2 lety

    What was the HDMI cable you used with the 8k recording?

  • @LonzosStudios
    @LonzosStudios Před 2 lety

    What hdmi cable are you using? Can’t find one that works

  • @JapaneseMonster
    @JapaneseMonster Před 2 lety

    Hey guys, I need your help. This is kind of a big deal to me because I am really trying to streamline my workflow for video production. So here it goes. I recently picked up the new Atomos V+ for my Canon R5. I have had the R5 for about a year and love it. I have not been using it to its full potential because cRAW is difficult to edit and requires a lot of time and processing power to transcode it to prores. I really love using LumaFusion on my M1 iPad Pro and now I am able to scrub through 8k All-i footage without proxies. So then I wanted to record 8k raw to have the best quality out of the camera. Prior to buying the Atomos I would have to transfer the CRM files to my gaming laptop with a RTX 3070 then I would have to convert each clip in Premiere Pro to Prores 422 which would take a while. I would then have to copy those back to my iPad Pro and edit them in LumaFusion. Now, I know you are going to ask me why I don’t edit on the laptop, but I am much faster and much more comfortable using my ipad to edit video. I enjoy the ergonomics so much. So I bought the Atomos V+ so I can output 8k raw to it and record 8k prores HQ right into the Atomos. I would then slide out the 1TB ssd and connect it to my iPad Pro and LumaFusion can playback the file without issue. NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM. “COLORSPACE”. No matter what option I have tried in LumaFusion, the colorspace is way off and not usable. If I playback the footage in LumaFusion before I drop the clip into my timeline, it looks fine. As soon as I put it in the timeline, colorspace becomes an issue. The closest one that is somewhat recognizable is Wide Gamut HDR - HDR10 (PQ). All others look like static or noise. Can someone please help? I really do not know what to do. There is no better software than LumaFusion for video editing on the iPad and this is the entire reason I bought the Atomos otherwise I would have just stuck with the Canon internal 8k raw recording, but then I would have to lug a laptop around to transcode the canon files to apple prores then copy back to my ipad. Sorry for the long comment. Please help if you can, thank you.

  • @evanfelts
    @evanfelts Před 3 lety

    I have also done some testing with ninja plus. Are you able to get any lower than 800 iso? I found the footage to be a bit more grainy than I like.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      No because that’s the minimum ISO value for log recording. Yes, raw footage is always more noisy as all other types of video have some level of noise reduction when being recorded. It should clean up nicely in post production with no negative impacts on the footage.
      Carl

  • @IMDABROWN
    @IMDABROWN Před 2 lety

    How easy was it to edit the the 8K Raw?

  • @backyardwindow
    @backyardwindow Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this! Is there a middle ground?
    Realistically, I want the best 4K signal I can get reliably. I don't have the backend for an 8K workflow. Is there a best internal 4K HQ or external 4k HQ equivalent option for this or a similar setup (w/o overheat). I'm assuming there's NOT a downscaled 4K Raw output option.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety +1

      Theres the 5K raw crop which is sort of the middle ground. Plus that can be recorded up to 30p with the regular Ninja V I believe which is a nice bonus.
      You have always had significantly less overheating issues when recording the 4K HQ mode externally as normal Prores, especially when you use an external battery or mains power. This is the workflow we use for lots of the B-Roll on this channel.
      Carl

    • @backyardwindow
      @backyardwindow Před 2 lety

      @@ProAVTV Thanks!

    • @rudyvanos
      @rudyvanos Před 2 lety +1

      @@ProAVTV Can you record in 5k RAW up to 60p with EF-s lenses? And what would the actual crop on the lenses be in 5K RAW? For example, what would a 100mm lens become equivalent to? Cheers!

  • @FredrikStrietz
    @FredrikStrietz Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for that good review! I also have the R5 and the Ninja V+. Both have the latest firmware. The 8R RAW recording is working great - as you described. But I want to choose 8K ProRes HQ or LT - NOT the RAW-Format. It seems that this is not possible - everytime I choosed another recording codec than RAW a message comes up like "the incomming signal is RAW - the recording format must also be RAW". Can you reproduce this? Are you able to record 8K ProRes LT or others? I can't.... If you can - what settings have to be changed (if I disable the RAW output in R5 I can not record on the V+...) Thanks for your feedback!!

    • @Luke-mf5rq
      @Luke-mf5rq Před 3 lety +3

      There is no way to record 8K prores (or dnx) because both the camera and the recorder cannot support such high bandwidth YCC4:2:2 or 4:4:4 signals through their HDMI 2.0 port. Prores or DNX codec is handling YCC signal. ProresRAW compresses RAW (Bayer) data. Bayern data consumes less bandwidth compared to YCC one. This is why 8K prores raw external encoding is possible but not prores.

    • @FredrikStrietz
      @FredrikStrietz Před 2 lety

      @@Luke-mf5rq Thanks for that information!!

  • @SeasonAscent
    @SeasonAscent Před 2 lety

    Great vid mate. Do you know if enabling standby: low res mode only affects the cameras screen, or does it also send the low res signal down the hdmi?

    • @JamesChurchill
      @JamesChurchill Před 2 lety +1

      The Raw signal sent to the V+ should bypass all of that pipeline, which is why it's undesirable to have it in the high-res (and heat generating) mode - that data only gets used for internal recording anyway.

    • @SeasonAscent
      @SeasonAscent Před 2 lety

      @@JamesChurchill thanks mate!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety

      That’s exactly right. You can’t throttle the data rate on a raw signal.
      Carl

  • @MoisesBowe
    @MoisesBowe Před 3 lety +1

    Hey! Great video. What ball head + adapter are you using in the R5? Thank you!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks for watching! It was this one: www.proav.co.uk/manfrotto-492-centre-ball-head
      Carl

    • @MoisesBowe
      @MoisesBowe Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV Thank you Carl!

  • @arttiz01
    @arttiz01 Před 2 lety

    Ok, so now that prices on V+ are lower, should I buy the Canon R5c or the Canon R5 with this Atomos V+? I own the R6 and it is very annoying the overheating issue, especially when I am recording interviews. Will the Atomos Ninja V+ work with the R6 as well? Thanks!

  • @wiseadvanced
    @wiseadvanced Před 2 lety

    the weather is nice

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety +1

      Not bad for the UK!
      Carl

  • @BryanBenoitPhoto
    @BryanBenoitPhoto Před 3 lety

    Which SSD did you use to capture the 8k? Does the Angelbird mini SSD candies support the 8k?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, we used the AtomX angel bird drives and they worked fine.
      Carl

  • @faithhouse6111
    @faithhouse6111 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you need an 8K capable cable to connect the R5 to the ninja v+ in order to record 8K raw?

  • @Itaketoomanypics
    @Itaketoomanypics Před 2 lety

    Texas 100 degree heat wont even let me shoot 4k hq or 8k. i can get like 2-3 min. if its before 10am

  • @farwestgarohills3831
    @farwestgarohills3831 Před 2 lety

    Does it have external power connector?

  • @lavindradesilva4884
    @lavindradesilva4884 Před 2 lety

    Will this solution work on the R6 as well?

  • @chuygutierrez8601
    @chuygutierrez8601 Před 2 lety

    Hi, my Ninja detects a raw signal but I don't get a visible signal once I click ok. Am I missing a setting?

    • @jochenpach
      @jochenpach Před 2 lety

      Hi Chuy, i have the same problem with the most of my thinner HDMI-Cables. You should test another cable, i think. The Atomos 4K HDMI 2.0a HDR Ready Cable worked fine until a pin in the plug broke...

  • @djpwanderlustproductions2980

    Great video! Are you able to record 4k120 using the Ninja V+ and R5 without overheating?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety +2

      No, the raw output is in either 8k up to 30p or 5k up to 60p
      Carl

    • @LaubsterMedia
      @LaubsterMedia Před 2 lety +1

      @@ProAVTV i think they meant simply 4k120 not raw which i understand the Ninja V+ can do 4k120 :)

    • @markr041
      @markr041 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LaubsterMedia Not 4K 120 externally from the R5, RAW or no RAW.

    • @LaubsterMedia
      @LaubsterMedia Před 2 lety +2

      @@markr041 damn ok, another miss understanding on my part then :( doesn't seem so appealing anymore would have loved to been able to use all the camera modes with the ninja (currently have first gen ninja)

  • @ashstonk
    @ashstonk Před 2 lety

    What cable u using for the 8k

  • @SeanColey
    @SeanColey Před 3 lety

    I primarily shoot in 4K 60. I'm very curious to know if the R5 overheats using these settings for external recording. Here in northern California, my R5 overheats quickly. This summer has been mostly between 95 and 115 degrees Fahrenheit so you can imagine my struggles. Great video! Thank you for posting it so quickly too :)

    • @SeasonAscent
      @SeasonAscent Před 2 lety

      The R5 doesn't really overheat in any modes when recording externally provided the cameras screen and EVF are set to turn off. I've filmed many weddings now in 4k50 externally with zero issues.

    • @SeasonAscent
      @SeasonAscent Před 2 lety

      @@SeanColey No worries. I get that, I'm in the same boat as I go handheld/gimbal solo all the time. Do you rely on AF? What I do is let the AF do its thing and I monitor focus on the atomos, and if I need to adjust, I just wake the screen and adjust.

    • @SeanColey
      @SeanColey Před 2 lety

      @@SeasonAscent That's good to know! Thank you. I need the screen to focus as I'm a solo gimbal operator but if I ever tripod it, that will be super helpful. I appreciate it!

    • @SeanColey
      @SeanColey Před 2 lety

      @@SeasonAscent Oh I didn't think about that. That's great! I usually use eye-detection at weddings and with a lot of eyes... I constantly am tapping the screen to make sure it's on the right person juuuust in case. For details I generally use a spot focus and turn off af if needed.

  • @TizOnly1
    @TizOnly1 Před 3 lety +4

    How do the 8K ProRes RAW files work in post?
    If overheating is the #1 issue on the R5, those damn files are #2 for sure.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +2

      ProRes raw edits very nicely, but it’s still 8K large files so it does take a powerful computer.
      Carl

    • @LonzosStudios
      @LonzosStudios Před 2 lety +1

      I'd say the files are #1, over heating is #1 if you need 8k or 4k HQ. The Ninja V+ is a work around for all of that.

  • @AlexPizarro
    @AlexPizarro Před 2 lety

    What HDMI cable is he using??

  • @killbilltwo
    @killbilltwo Před 3 lety

    Can you use other monitors to not get the overheating instead of using the Átomos?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Not yet. The Ninja V isn’t anything to do with the overheating. It’s simply that the camera doesn’t seem to overheat when it’s sending out an 8k raw signal. The Ninja V+ is just the only monitor recorder which can see and record that signal at the moment.
      Carl

  • @BabyBackManiac
    @BabyBackManiac Před 3 lety +11

    I just find it weird they update this fringe use case where it won’t overheat but not 4KHQ internal which is probably the one that would be used the most if it wasn’t more likely to overheat. Regardless it’s great to see improvement and this was a good video thanks.

    • @robertm3951
      @robertm3951 Před 3 lety +4

      Nothing internal was updated. 4KHQ did not overheat externally before. Now we can also record 8K externally

    • @BabyBackManiac
      @BabyBackManiac Před 3 lety

      ​@@robertm3951 I understand that. I'm just saying It's easier in software to turn off a fake overheating timer than to implement raw video externally.

    • @daniellove162
      @daniellove162 Před 2 lety +1

      I love my R5 but the R3 has me interested. If they “fixed” the R5 so that it didn’t overheat, I’d stay with my R5. So yea, canon knows how to squeeze money out of people.

    • @randomgeocacher
      @randomgeocacher Před 2 lety +1

      @@BabyBackManiac watch DIY Perks video on fixing the r5 cooling. It is a real cooling issue, the hardware cooling is horribly bad on the R5, and fixing the body fixes/reduces the problem significantly. So unless you want to mod your camera body, you have to work with camera settings that do not generate too much heat in the processor; make less in-processor work. So raw HDMI, jay for R5 owners!

    • @NathanPhillipsPhoto
      @NathanPhillipsPhoto Před 2 lety

      But IPB… isn’t All-I tons better than IPB and recommended on professional sets?
      Also, is there something that was updated in terms of standby low res? Before you would be recording (externally only) the actual low res file.

  • @dwxmedia1870
    @dwxmedia1870 Před 3 lety +3

    On my R5/Ninja V+ I got 1hr 15min 8K Prores Raw with a 2TB SSD that already was 40% full. R5 did not overheat but the Ninja V+ was hot. Had the camera LCD out and away from the body. Will continue to test more...

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes that sounds about right. The Ninja V+ will get very hot, that’s completely normal behaviour and won’t damage it. Just be careful when touching it!
      Carl

    • @SOMARTSIND
      @SOMARTSIND Před 3 lety

      and what about rolling shutter? please share with us

    • @sdm2
      @sdm2 Před 3 lety

      Was the lcd screen on? That makes a big difference on the ninja v when recording in 4KHQ. Thank you!

    • @mcneilbelle
      @mcneilbelle Před 3 lety

      can you do 4k 120p just regular prores or is that not an option

    • @dwxmedia1870
      @dwxmedia1870 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sdm2 Just ran another test with the LCD on extended to the side, ran 8K Prores Raw for the full duration of 1hr 50min on my 2TB SSD with no overheating warning. Occasionally used the touch AF to keep LCD on. Did not have CFExpress or SD in the camera.

  • @vadimverenitsyn
    @vadimverenitsyn Před 3 lety +1

    I have a question! 5k video is recorded in crop mode? I am interested in the review of only 5k 50p raw, I really want to see examples and discuss the recording possibilities! in your video, I saw that you need to switch to crop mode for recording 5k and I'm worried about this. thank you for your experience!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, you can’t downsample a raw signal. So the raw is 8k with the full sensor. But you can crop in to 5k work of pixels to get a higher frame rate.
      Carl

    • @tommasobarletta
      @tommasobarletta Před 3 lety +1

      @@ProAVTV Can you test the crop mode with Canon SpeedBooster on (the one for the C70) and an EF lens? See if you have any issues with 5K 50p and 60p. And if you get vignetting or not. I believe everything could work fine. It would be useful! Thanks!

    • @vadimverenitsyn
      @vadimverenitsyn Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV Thanks! This is very important to me!

  • @lnz971
    @lnz971 Před 3 lety

    Can you please tell us about 4k120 with this Ninja V+ if it work and if there is overheating.

    • @markr041
      @markr041 Před 2 lety

      No 4K 120p using the Ninja V+ and the R5. 5K RAW 60p and 8K RAW 30p.

    • @lnz971
      @lnz971 Před 2 lety

      @@markr041 that's shitty

  • @YBijan
    @YBijan Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for the video. I have got one question: does the Ninja V plus record 4k video in 120 fps from the R5 in better quality WITHOUT any line skipping than when recorded internally?

    • @HesamSeyedMousavi
      @HesamSeyedMousavi Před 3 lety +2

      Canon R5 isn't any ability to output 4K 120 fps even with line skipping! aftermore there are not any 12bit RAW output through HDMI by canon in end result !

    • @Angelo_Paduraru
      @Angelo_Paduraru Před 3 lety +1

      “Additionally, the R5 supports 5Kp60 ProRes RAW with Ninja V+ to provide even more creative latitude”

  • @DAVISION-YT
    @DAVISION-YT Před 3 lety +2

    I have this combination and my R5 is still overheating..
    Only recording externally not starting over HDMI Timecode Trigger.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Interesting, What settings are using? 8k ? 5k? And what situation are you in?
      Carl

    • @DAVISION-YT
      @DAVISION-YT Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV Hey Carl,
      I've tested 8K yesterday and today im mild 20°c conditions Indoor and about 24°c outdoor.
      I could record a 1TB SSD till it was full (40 Min) and then got the heating warning. Using a Dummy Battery.
      Today I shot just little clips outdoor not even 30 Minutes and at the end the camera has shown me remaining time 1:00 .
      Did you test with, or without cards in camera? I had both slots filled but obviously not used.

    • @nomad0714
      @nomad0714 Před 3 lety

      @@DAVISION-YT, I saw a video where a YT’er turned off the EVF and LCD screen to turn off and could record unlimited for Ninja V. This should apply here as well as he said both of those were generating the overheating. I don’t have the V+ to try but might be worthwhile to try this.

    • @DAVISION-YT
      @DAVISION-YT Před 3 lety +1

      @@nomad0714 LCD and EVF were turned of after 30 Seconds. This Video you saw unfortunately lacked some basic understanding and had not a single ambient Temperature given.
      I can also record endless in a 15° basement room. 😊

    • @nomad0714
      @nomad0714 Před 3 lety

      @@DAVISION-YT, good points!

  • @mcneilbelle
    @mcneilbelle Před 2 lety

    hey I’m having trouble downloading the tokens from the atomos website on to my ninja v+ the website isn’t letting me download it any suggestions or help you can give

    • @walkersunited332
      @walkersunited332 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe try a different computer or contact customer support if they have that service. That's my only guess but I've never been on the website since I'm barely looking to buy my first one

    • @mcneilbelle
      @mcneilbelle Před 2 lety

      @@walkersunited332 hey thanks man I was able to get a hold of customer support I’m all set now

  • @bobuk5722
    @bobuk5722 Před 3 lety +2

    hey, I'm first! If you need great 8k quality this is a bargain. BobUK

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Completely agree!
      Carl

  • @darrenliu1724
    @darrenliu1724 Před 2 lety

    Would this work on the R6 as well? Thank you!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety

      No i'm afraid only the R5 has a raw output currently
      Carl

  • @JePeVePe
    @JePeVePe Před 2 lety

    Can still overheat or shutdown indoors with a Ninja....
    I see no reason to switch to this V+ , since, I found that the 8K wasn't that big of an improvement over de 4K HQ (besides my computer not being able to even play 8K video, let alone edit them without proxies which takes loads of time... so for me, not worthit)

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 2 lety

      That’s fair enough, it’s only really worth it if this 8k raw is of interest to you
      Carl

  • @oliviertorres8001
    @oliviertorres8001 Před 2 lety

    Sure of your WB ? 🤔

  • @ossme
    @ossme Před 2 lety +1

    Can this combination do 4K 120p as well ?

  • @NortonAndFriends
    @NortonAndFriends Před 3 lety

    You didn't touch on editing the files. Assuming it's gotta be much easier on your machine.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Easier than the internal 8K canon raw? Yes it is.
      Carl

  • @skymakai
    @skymakai Před 3 lety

    Massive file sizes for ProRes Raw 8K!!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Sure is! It’s 8K raw!
      Carl

  • @jtouch2859
    @jtouch2859 Před 3 lety

    could you please tried it with fx6 ?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      We already did briefly in our previous video on the Ninja V+
      Carl

  • @ADVTRV
    @ADVTRV Před 3 lety

    Is 4K - 120fps ProResRaw available via this update ?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      No, it’s 8k up to 30p and 5k crop up to 60p
      Carl

  • @Kasperbus
    @Kasperbus Před 3 lety

    how do you clean up the noise so easy? I still cant figure it out

    • @daniellove162
      @daniellove162 Před 3 lety

      There are some mind blowing plug-ins for this.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Any noise reduction plug-in normally works quite well on raw footage. There’s the built in noise reduction in fcpx or resolve or plugins like neat video
      Carl

  • @JamesJacksonFilmz
    @JamesJacksonFilmz Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Carl. Are you going to look at Tilta’s new Cooling Kit as an alternative for people?

    • @managerofthenewportplumses301
      @managerofthenewportplumses301 Před 3 lety

      James - are you aware of the vouchers for existing Atomos Ninja V owners????

    • @JamesJacksonFilmz
      @JamesJacksonFilmz Před 3 lety

      @@managerofthenewportplumses301 not that I know of

    • @magnus547
      @magnus547 Před 3 lety

      I've been tempted to try it out. I've heard it extends record time, but not sure how practical it is. I will say that I'd still much rather record internal 8K, than external through a recorder, unless I'm doing longform recording. Hope you're well, and sorry about your flood!

    • @nomad0714
      @nomad0714 Před 3 lety

      Hi James,
      I am also interested in the Tilta but there has been no one doing a video on it. How does Tilta expect to sell it without any video showing how it performs?

    • @JamesJacksonFilmz
      @JamesJacksonFilmz Před 3 lety +1

      @@nomad0714 well it’s already back ordered. So someone is buying it. I know one person at least who did as well. I put my own order in. So I will let you know when it arrives.

  • @BryanBenoitPhoto
    @BryanBenoitPhoto Před 3 lety

    Any recommendations on the hdmi cables to use?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      We used these SWIT ones and they worked perfectly: www.proav.co.uk/swit-75cm-full-hdmi-to-micro-hdmi
      Carl

    • @BryanBenoitPhoto
      @BryanBenoitPhoto Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV thank you

  • @wizard9858
    @wizard9858 Před 3 lety +1


    Do all ProRes Raw clips look like Sony's colour ?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      I assume you mean “Sonys colour” in a negative way? To defend Sony a little quickly, the colours from the A7S3, fx3, FX6, fx9 & Venice are all beautiful.
      As for this video, to be honest I’m not happy with the way the ProRes raw files are colour graded here. I did it very quickly late on a Friday evening as I wanted to get this video out for people to watch. I’m also not hugely familiar with FCPX. (Normally use resolve)
      With more time, care and skill, I’m sure they would look much better.
      Carl

    • @wizard9858
      @wizard9858 Před 3 lety


      I understand.
      How about a1 colour ?

  • @lucasboyle959
    @lucasboyle959 Před rokem

    Pro Res Raw vs internal Raw not the same thing. Same name, different things.

  • @policeman0077
    @policeman0077 Před 2 lety

    how about 4k hq

  • @BalaKrishna-bq5iz
    @BalaKrishna-bq5iz Před 2 lety +2

    R5 matches up with cinema cameras in terms of Image quality? Does dynamic range and highlight roll-off count as ‘Image Quality’? Especially so, when you’re comparing to cinema cameras. 3+ year old Fuji xt3 has better DR and roll-off than R5. Why do we act like only Sharpness counts as ‘Image Quality’?

  • @ziggyonthelens3173
    @ziggyonthelens3173 Před 3 lety +1

    Looks like you have standby mode on. 3:27 If yes, Not sure your ninja was getting 8k the whole time

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      The instructions are to use that function to get extended record times. So i assume it doesn’t impact the raw output at all. Plus the output is either raw or it’s not, they can’t throttle it’s resolution or bit rate at all when it goes into standby or anything like that because that’s not how raw outputs work.
      Carl

    • @tommasobarletta
      @tommasobarletta Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV It would be interesting to see the recording times when keeping the flip out lcd screen always on, for touching focus on a run-n-gun scenario. Stand-by mode already made the recording times extremely long.

  • @JimboSkinner
    @JimboSkinner Před 3 lety +2

    Great video. This must be why Atomos just sent a $500 voucher to Shogun and Ninja owners to upgrade to the 8k Ninja V+.

    • @managerofthenewportplumses301
      @managerofthenewportplumses301 Před 3 lety +1

      Is this for real? I haven't seen such a vouncher yet.

    • @BryanBenoitPhoto
      @BryanBenoitPhoto Před 3 lety +1

      The voucher is on their support site once you register one of the eligible products. The Ninja V is NOT one of them. These are the ones listed… Shotuun Flame, Shogun Inferno, Shogun 7, Ninja Inferno or Ninja Assasin. Valid until September 30th.

  • @farwestgarohills3831
    @farwestgarohills3831 Před 2 lety

    It did not heat up because your video length was very short. Shoot beyond 1 hr length and see, it will surely give serious heat. A notorious camera for heat. If not, people will not design and manufacture special fan for this camera, which I have never seen for any other camera.

  • @laurencechase5439
    @laurencechase5439 Před 3 lety

    Can you record the 4kHQ with the normal Ninja V?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Yes as regular prores 422
      Carl

    • @laurencechase5439
      @laurencechase5439 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ProAVTV Great thanks! Forgot to ask, I take it there are no time/recording or overheating limits on that too?

  • @bromoboy
    @bromoboy Před 2 lety

    Why his face looks so green??

  • @littlebritain
    @littlebritain Před 3 lety

    I am interested about the 5k raw 50p quality……

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +1

      We didn’t try it much. But there are quite a few 5k 24p shots in here. I’d expect the 5K 50p to look very similar
      Carl

  • @seragram
    @seragram Před 3 lety

    Good news. Now please put a picture of R5 surrounded by snow and ice ;)

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      Good point, we missed a trick with the thumbnail didn’t we!
      Carl

  • @SOMARTSIND
    @SOMARTSIND Před 3 lety

    Rolling shutter with ninja?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety +2

      We didn’t test rolling shutter I’m afraid
      Carl

    • @SOMARTSIND
      @SOMARTSIND Před 3 lety +1

      @@ProAVTV please test and upload video please....

  • @RockyMaiviaMiami
    @RockyMaiviaMiami Před 3 lety +2

    What was this shot on ? Skin looks like Sony?
    Can you test 4k60?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  Před 3 lety

      It was shot on the Canon R6 but some of it was unfortunately quite over exposed.
      Carl

    • @RockyMaiviaMiami
      @RockyMaiviaMiami Před 3 lety

      @@ProAVTV *cries in Canon w/ r5&r6* 😭

    • @kifley19
      @kifley19 Před 3 lety

      Lol. At least the Sony wont overheat.

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais Před 2 lety

      @rocksthaman you comment is ridiculous. Thankfully, this channel does not usually have trolls bashing other brands.

    • @RockyMaiviaMiami
      @RockyMaiviaMiami Před 2 lety

      @@JonPais lol quit being so defensive. I have both Sony and Canon. It was a genuine question.