ProRes 4k 60fps in the iPhone 15 Pro is a Game Changer
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
- In this video I showcase why ProRes 4k 60fps is amazing in the new iPhone 15 Pro. I show you how the phone reacts when an ssd is plugged in the iPhone 15 Pro and walk you through the work flow Apple had in mind while creating this feature. Please leave a comment if you have any questions.
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It looks amazing MJP!
Thank you so much for taking the time out to do this. I feel like everyone else is making recap video or sharing each others damn notes and not showing videos like this. VERY useful. Where can we get those Sony LuT please?
I just put a google drive link in the description. Let me know if it dont work. But the one used in the video is the third one. But I put them all in the folder.
Great work, very informative, thank you 🎉
Glad it was helpful!
Great Job on this Michael! 💖💖💯💯🤩🤩
Thanks so much
To help with exposure I’ve started to preserve my settings in settings > camera > preserve settings and turn on for Exposure Adjustments. Then on the camera app you tap on the EV comp on the top to right and I keep mine at -0.3 normally to -0.7 on brighter days. It doesn’t always stop the auto exposure changes that the camera does but it helps a bit from them completely blowing out footage mid recording.
Great tip!
great video. keep it up & thank you
Thank you for watching. :)
Thanks for this video!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the LUTs! Awesome. If you don't mind please tell me where to get more (options that offer good value for money included).
Great video. Thank you. I just subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
@MichaelJohnsonProductions I was thinking I needed 1T of storage until I saw your video showing the ssd, and that change the game bro.
Absolutely. No need for a lot of storage
Excellent info, Michael.Thank you. I'm keen to learn how I might set up the BlackMagic Iphone 15 camera app to film ProRes Log. Do you have any experience with this? Thanks👍
Randomly found this video and its awesome. Great job on your video! Love from Mauritius 🇲🇺
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the video. Do you know how I can connect an external microphone and an external SSD drive?
Hey man great video! I do have one question. I normally use a wireless mic plugged directly into my phone. I could record with the mics internally, but could I use a splitter for the ssd and the mic/receiver at the same time?
Great video @MichaelJohnsonProductions! Question for you: at the end of the video: you said "as long as you don't use it for a talking head like this video". Is that because it's a low-light situation where something like the C70 provides much more sensor for that environment?
Love it! Game changer for sure.
Yes it is. Love it
Going to Patagonia in a month.. I will be leaving the Sony AC7 home and taking the 15 pro max to shoot on a tripod (tri pod needed for the solo hikes).. its saves me a few lbs. I will use this 4k 60 pro res feature. thanks for posting.1
What is this trip for? Is it for work or personal?
personal .. going with a group hike tour.
Did your phone overheated? Some people are complaining of extreme overheating when shutting 4k with the external drive
Something I also found really handy is instead of SSD one can use fast transfer rate SD cards. I have the Apple USB-C SD card reader and SanDisk 200 MB/s 256 gig SD card and it records ProRes log 4k 60 fps great.
This is great information to know. Thanks for sharing :)
Did you encounter any skipped frames when using sd card + reader? I’ve seen from other videos that it might skip some frames and give you choppy footage…
In my limited testing no. I rarely use 60 fps, mostly 24 or 30 fps, but it's handy to have that capability.
thank you brother. A question if you'd be so kind. I take stills sometimes from video and frame them. Do you know if and how much better the still quality is with the 15 over earlier models? My 13 pro seems to take "ok" stills but they save as less than 2mp quality
Hey man I love this video it was super informative , really there isn't any CZcamsr right now speaking on practicality like this. For my own peace of of mind the iphone you have is it the iphone 15 pro or the iphone 15 pro max on hand? I've been confused not knowing how big in the hand these phones are this year .
Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. It is the iPhone 15 Pro. It feels a little smaller in the hand compared to the iPhone 14 pro. But the screen is the same size. Pretty awesome. Batterie life has been great as well so far.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions Oh awe thanks man appreciate that info . I'm looking forward to getting mine later in the year , I'm keen on using it for filming whatever comes way. Excited for this little piece of powerful hardware.
Unless you use the proper cable and a fast enough storage unit, the 4K 60 ProRes footage will skip. Also, the connector matters too.
Yup you are correct.
Hey! Which equipment would you suggest? Thanks
can I just use an external m.2 ssd that I made it has a usb c to usb c
In europe you can buy inteso buisnes external ssd with fast 3.2 cable
@@GlobalTrndzthe ThunderBolt USB C Cable Connector
What settings i should use to film decent / good vids but not kill my storage?
2 questions: 1) can I record video with 32bit audio, if I have a zoom f6 or similar... and 2) can I use a SSD and the audio device simultaneously via a usb hub?
Great video.. what would you suggest for a beginner filmmaker an iphone 15 pro or a mirrorless camera like zve10 or any other budget camera you can recommend?
Just get the iPhone. You won’t find a more flexible camera for less money. It’s always in your pocket and it can do some amazing stuff if you know how to use it. Or even if you don’t tbh.
If you have some sort of phone with average or good camera, get dji osmo mobile and start working on composing shots, editing and so on, push on quality and versatility can come later when your skill will grow. It's obvious that cameras with changeable lens are better in versatility, but they are crap if you dont have skills to use them (developed earlier). Just for your info, years ago some wedding clips were shot on the iphone 6, so dont run after latest ;) Even I am creating small wedding clips for clients some years ago it was samsung s7(+case with wide lens), then samsung s10+
Thanks for the vid just got a 15pro max we use an add on Mic 🎤 for recording ,can you use both a mic and a drive at the same time with a hub maybe?
Hi, any way to plug an external wireless mic in as well as the ssd? Thanks!
For example, if you are filming for 20 minutes, does the iPhone not get too hot? And battery life?
Hello,
May I know if we transfer the video of 4k60fps dolby vision hdr shot from iphone 15 to windows pc for editing on premiere pro, would that degrade the video quality ?
What format should the ssd be? FAT32 or?
Its a killer feature. One question- Does prores log also affect the depth of field in some ways?
It does not. It still looks the same as normal.
If you have Davinci Resolve, you can use the Color Space Transform or Color Management to get from Apple Log to whichever delivery format you want (Premiere doesn't have it yet, but FCP X also has this transform).
If you use BlackMagic Camera you can load a LUT (I think for Preview). Also BlackMagic Camera lets you choose other ProRes format like LT, which is not quite as hard on storage.
I think BlackMagic Camera should also provide the setting for Apple Log (haven't gotten my 15 pro max yet to test)
Thank you for the heads up. Someone else mentioned Blackmagic camera in the comments and I downloaded it. Havent had that much time to play with it but it looks pretty awesome.
Also thanks for the heads up as well with the Devinci Resolve and FCP color space transform. I'll have to try that out. I can at least get the footage transformed back to rec 709 and go from there in Premiere.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions yeah exactly, you might also want to apply any other creative looks after doing the accurate color correction. Take advantage of that extra dynamic range the log profile buys you.
But, you can also probably do the entire color correction in less than a minute of setting up project settings + render time ,can even do it on an iPad.
Oh, last thing, you can export from Davinci into Premiere XML? Not sure if that is relevant, or you can just take the footage as graded ProRes.
Great videos! inspired me to get out there and shoot some stuff!
Davinci Resolve actually has the conversion LUT for Apple LOG???
@@Kaotix_music it has color space transforms, not the LUT
@@MaximoJoshua correct me if im wrong, but isnt davincis CST just basically using the LUT? Instead of looking through your computer for the LUT, CST just has them all in one place for you?
Have you tried recording to a fast flash drive as well to avoid the SSD "dongle" effect?
There is not a flash drive fast enough to work with this. At least I havent seen a flash drive that can read 500mbs both ways.
Do you actually need an SSD for this? Can you write to SD card?
Thank you, my 15 pro max is on the way. This is Why I wanted the upgrade from my 11 lol
Does this feature only supports for pro models ?
can you explain this part real quick about unplug , then dumping to a fast drive??before editing so we need anther separate drive ??
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Anyone using the LOG recording, i HIGHLY suggest using the Black Magic Camera app....you can dial in settings just like a cinema camera. It also adds ProRes 4444 (which will chew up SDD space like crazy haha) but that unlocks 12 bit color which just insane a phone can do that. Im gonna test this out as a B cam to my FX30 for certain situations where I feel like i can use it
No way. Will it act like true raw footage? Like changing the white balance and all that good stuff? Like truly changing white balance
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions noooo, ProRes 4444 12bit is not RAW. Its just Apples highest ProRes codec that can support up to 16-bit color
That’s true but can the actual sensor output 12 bit? I thought it was limited to 10 bit. I am planning on using LT for most cases. I guess I should test it once my phone arrives.
@@MaximoJoshua i wondered that myself. Davinci Resolve in the info tab on the color page says its 12 bit, but that could just be metadata obviously. I usually have a hard time telling the difference between 10 and 12 bit color. I gotta do my research on that
Cinema P3 is better atm but black magic app will be great after a few updates
Michael thank you! Also I need help with the darn wind sounds?
Honestly when it comes to audio I use the Rode Pros. I never use the iPhone audio. In post a high pass filter works wonders though.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions thank you so much!!
I have my microphone toggle in the port, need a double port if the hard drive is in at the same time, or am i misunderstanding !
PRODUCT IDEA, A iPhone 15 pro case with built in pocket/plug for usb drive like the T5 Samsung or this one you have here... I have both
Yes my body and I talked about that yesterday. I wish I could make cases lol.
I instantly thought the same. There will be some I guarantee... Some companies that are more in line with photography etc that make specific accessories like that will
Does the ssd have to be empty or exclusive for the ProRes capture??
is there any application that you need to download before you insert that sandisk directly into your phone? can i use it also to transfer all my files in my phone to my iphone? thank you.
Watch the video. It answers all of your questions. :)
1TB external Hard-drive gives you only 12mins LOG footage?
Two questions: 1. Does it work with Flashdrive? 2. Can I do this process on iPhone 14 Pro Max? [Thanks]
Unfortunately the answer is no to both of your questions
the attitude on that kid! xD
Yes the attitude lol
The Apple ProRes LUT is available in Final Cut Pro. It's automatically applied as you import your ProRes file. You can then take it off obviously if you want to color grade from scratch...
Is it free?
Need to update Final Cut for it?
Need to update Final Cut for it?
This is what I use for premiere pro. AppleLogToRec709.
Can you share the Sony LUT that you use?
Is there any reason to buy the 512gb or larger 1TB memory iPhone 15 if we can just plug in an external?
Honestly in my opinion no.
but what if I am using the usb c for mikrofon, how can I do prores and use mic at the sametime?
If you plan on shooting a lot in Pro Res, what memory would you recommend for the Iphone 15 Max? 256GB, 512GB, or 1TB? If everything is going to be put on an external drive, does it really matter?
In my personal opinion it don’t matter. I would just recommend some iCloud storage for your home videos of family and normal recordings and photos you do. But for the high quality video you want to shoot I would record just using a ssd. No need for high storage on an iPhone anymore
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions Excellent, thank you. I currently have an IPhoneX with 256GB of which I’ve used half. But I was wondering how much recording in Pro Res eats up memory. I know it’s a lot.
It is a lot as I showed in the video but if you have a ssd it will only take the storage from that. Not your phone.
7:15 did that footage have some lag throughout?
Great content by the way.
Yes it did have a little lag on that clip. I think it has something to do with the shutter speed. That area had reflective paper and was extremely bright. So I think the phone has to adjust the shutter speed too much which made it look laggy. My theory. I could be wrong. But if I don’t have an nd filter when I fly my drone it sometimes does that as well.
I have couple thing which I would suspect, primary shutter speed, than interaction with smartphone stabilizer gimbal, in early years phone's one built in, would counter act some of gimbals movment which made some jerks in footage
How long can you record it before overheating?
Can you shoot in lower res than 4k 60 raw and still record to external drive? Basically if I wanted to shoot just reg 4k 30 can i use a 2tb drive and get like many hours of footage room?
Yes you can
what LUT do you use?
this is great paired with the owc 1tb ssd its small and compact
Absolutely
i have the 15 pro max and i got the prores and i even shoot in 1080 because when i record with my SSD samsum T7 i try to watch the video on my computer i can only listen to the audio the video its all black and shows a messege of codec error not support and thats not even in 4K can somebody helpr please?
Download VLC and give it a try
Thanks, you are right, no other videos showed…. So thanks!
I bought a PNY 3.2 256gb USB.c thumb drive and ProRes doesn’t recognize it, but the phone does for other file actions.
Is that a sign it does write fast enough or?
Yes that is a sign it is not fast enough. You need at least 1000mb/s read and write. That’s what’s been working for me
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions Thanks for the response.
Now I see that PR4k60fps equates to 750GB for one hour of shooting.
Do you think it will overheat in outdoor 80F ambiant?
Hi Mr. Michael,
Your 15 pro's storage is 128gb, isn't right?
Then, if we are inclined to record video 4k in 128gb, will we need to connect with external SSD?
How many recording options could we get such as 4k 24fps, 30fps or 60 fps?
No I have the 256gb version.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions Ohh, I thought it was 128 version, though thank you Mr. Micheal
I have a general question, for general shooting, do people really shoot at 4K/60FPS? I thought cinematic was more 23.976 or 29.97? Most of the stock B roll I find for CZcams videos is under 24 so Im confused how to mix and match it.
Its great if you want to have either super smooth motion or to get cool slow mo shots at a decent frame rate
Final Cut Pro just released an update which includes a Apple lut for Apple log
Thank you for the heads up :)
I really need a SSD to ProRes 4k60fps or i can use my pendrive USB C 128Gb???
Question, I recorded 4k60 ProRes onto a 256Gig thumb drive and the footage is pretty jittery when panning around. Any idea what can be causing it? I recoded 4k30 ProRes onto the device and it was super smooth.
Yeah sounds like your thumb drive is not fast enough. You need an actual SSD that can read and write 1000 MB/s
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions thank you so much. I’ll definitely get one.
Note that the 4TB version of this SSD is not compatible with the 15 Pro Max
Good note. I had no idea thanks
Get the DaVinci mobile phone camera app
Can Sandisk Dual Luxe with 400mbps read record Pro Res?
How to I record audio through a mic using pro res?
so we cant vlog in 1080p any more with this same set up??? we have to vlog in 4k 30fps etc????
Why Premier Pro with a Mac Studio? Any benefits over Final Cut Pro?
Yes tons of benefits. I edit for TV. Discovery, NBC Sports and ESPN. All everyone uses in this industry is Premiere Pro. If I have to collaborate with other editors I can do that. Which I do all the time. Not a single actual professional uses Final Cut. Only CZcamsrs. Which there is nothing wrong with that. It's just not set up for really big projects.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions That makes sense. BTW. Are there Luts from 422 Log to 422 HLG/BT2020 for HDR viewing?
If 4k 30 fps pro res video is available in iPhone 15 pro 128 GB variant?
does attaching ssd to phone drain battery?
Amazing! I just wouldn't trust the Sandisk SSD, had too many fails from them.
You personally had a lot of fails? Ive been using Sandisk for years and havent had any problems. The only brand I would recommend and I do this for a living. Very weird.
is there no way for iphone 15 pro to save the prores footage directly on the internal storage? looking forward to buying this phone...
Yes there is but you have to use the Blackmagic app which is amazing
Looks good, but the problem is that the shutter speed is way too high, so it doesn’t look very cinematic for B roll. You’ll need an ND filter for the iPhone.
Correct I mentioned this in one of my comments in this comment section. Definitely need to get an nd filter for this phone to help it out
Any recommendations on how to do it?
@@matt11210get a moment case and lens and add an ND filter or get a beastgrip. They do have clip on ND filters but not sure how effective they are
in my case i put sand disk of 128 GB with a card reader and i can only ear the audio the video looks black, can you help me?
i need a better cable or SSD?
Yeah you can’t use a as card. You need an ssd
Or am I misunderstanding your comment?
i got the SSD external hard drive and when i want see it on my oc it shows :
we cant play video IMG 0001. its encoded in apch format which isnt supported.you mcan still listen to the audio@@MichaelJohnsonProductions
1.Does it records non-ProRes(normal)videos to external drive too ?
2. As far as i knew upto last gen we need at least 256G to record ProRes,but since this has U-C,can i record in external drive with just 128g variant ?
No, only the ProRes to external drive
@@EmadApple Thanks a lot
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do we need to use some special cable along with external SSD to record log? 4k 60 fps
I have the Sandisk Extreme 2tb. I use the cable it came with and it won’t connect to my 15 pro max. It doesn’t recognize it. Did you do something special to get yours to work? Thanks.
can i record 4k prores video on 128 gb version ?
how about battrey use prores log
Tried to record today with external T7 and it recorded 2-4 seconds only .. just not there .. any ideas?
Hmm that’s very confusing. I’ve just tested and used the wal mart brand ssd’s and it works great. Very long clips as well.
Yeah weird … another thing .. can’t use 3x lens in cenmatic mode … is it correct?
Congratulations from Italy! Can 4k on the 15 Pro Max be shot at 50p?
Not with the native app.
@@mrlightwriter ok thanx 😓
@@mirkomarinelli Yeah, it's a bummer...I also live in Europe (Portugal), and 50fps would be awesome to avoid flicker from the lights.
@@mrlightwriter With Blackmagic App you can record at 50p.
It's free on the app store 😉
Additional, don't expect the Sandisk PRO to work, the phone USB is not giving enough power! Go with Shield 7, it requires less watt, 2 TB, no problem
Heck yeah. Thanks for the tip. I have the Sandisk pro but havent tested it with the iPhone. I wont even bother. What you are saying makes a lot of sense. I'll keep using the normal ones I have then.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions for sure. The pro need 7 watt and the 'normal' ones (not pro, shield) use 4,5 watt - something like that. And you can use the 7 watt by adding a dock/hub like belking 4 port usbc. That gives the USB port the juice the external ssd needs and charge the phone. For computers, the wattage is no problem.
Only iphone 15? Or Iphone 14?
I'll wait for the iPhone 16 since I already bought the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 recently, which is better for my video use than my phone is.
What is a DJ1 osmo pocket 3?
What cable do you use?
I use the cable that came with the Sandisk SSD
Talking head videos is exactly what I was planning to use it on. I’m not a filmmaker and don’t have a professional camera, just an iPhone 15 pro.
Can someone please explain why he said it wouldn’t be good for talking head videos?
Because the amount of storage it would use is outrageous. It will work and look great but do you have that much storage? If so I say do it.
That makes sense, maybe I need to get a 1tb or 2tb for 1 to 1:30 long videos?.
Thanks for the response!.
Any way to get LOG + ProRes with cinematic mode?
No unfortunately not.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions Shame, huh? I really think we're missing out on something cool here.
bro i have same sandisk same like that but its not working
Which phone do you have?
Wait, so what happens if the usb-c ssd is password protected?
then you stole it?
and why did it say only 12 min ?? is that all we can record on that samsung 500gb??
Because I already had a lot of stuff on that ssd.
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions ohhh. How much did it say in the beginning you remb???
Is it available with 15 pro 128gb ?
Yes it is. All Pro models.
Will this work on iphone 15 pro 128 GB?
Yes it will
I tried this way but external drive drain battery like crazy
Oh yeah it’s definitely going to drain battery bad. I mean for 20 seconds of video it’s 3gb. It’s using a lot of resources.
sd card reader drain battery slower
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions
Runs only with pro iPhone or pro Max ?
SanDisk T2 ?
It will work with iPhone 15 pro and pro max.
Thanks 🙏🏼
Ok SanDisk 2T runs with iPhone pro Max 15 - and Record pro Res ? without film skips or flickering?
Is fast enough ?
Yes
Does it works on 14 pro max
Unfortunately not
after I recorded it on ssd , can I still edit on iPhone?
Absolutely as long as you have enough space on the phone to do so
but im using the ssd cus the files is too big for the iPhone storage, my question is the editing app like capcut etc can edit by using the storage as the files picker and use proxies or some@@MichaelJohnsonProductions
I use LumaFusion to edit on my cell phone if I ever have too. Unfortunately it transfers that data to the phone while editing. I’m not sure about the app you use I would run some test if you have the phone.
we still don't have it here but im checking the stuff that I need to get with it, thanks any way
@@MichaelJohnsonProductions
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Why 60fps wouldn't 30fps stop it being too sharp