TOOL WAR I - US Made vs German Made - Which electrician tools are better, Klein or Knipex?
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Hier sind doch bestimmt 75% Deutsche oder?
Nein, ich bin aus schweden. Ich habe niemals von Klein gehört, aber im arbeit haben wir doch viele knipex. Enschuldigung fur mein deutsch.
ACHH nöö wie kommste auf die Idee ? :-)
@@hnorrstrom Ach was, dein Deutsch ist echt gutđ
@@hnorrstrom Schweden mĂŒssen sich fĂŒr nichts entschuldigen !
Si
German Logic:
We tested it with 10kV and it was totally fine.
but lets play it safe and say 1kV
It is german logik after DIN VDE 0-100/600 đ
Das ist aber PrĂŒfung von el betriebsmitteln oder nicht? đ
@@Panzerpaul92 Das ist BG VA3
Erstinbetriebnahme el. Anlage wars richtig đ
This is normal
I am a simple german. I see tools, I see comparison and reason, i upvote.
i read your comment with an Arnie accent :D
@@anonymus5966
Too bad, he has an Austrian accent :P
@@user-bl4oq7fd8d Too bad Austrians are germans.
@@MMadesen NEIN!!!
@@Ellen0307 Doch
How the hell did this get in my recommended?
this is a real good question man. a real good question.
You watch big Clive?
@@monksapollo735 nope
because were all german and youtube wants to jerk our ego
@@Sakaralchini not German...
you were right at first its knipex not kniiipex ;) greetings from germany
Most Brits say NIPEX silent k - :)
No in Germany we say kniipex.
Johannis J. Nope, we say Knipex. Same as it is being written. The guy was right at the beginning.
Danke sonst hĂ€tt ichs schreiben mĂŒssen
@@nikkar1295 ich auch
Just an useless fact: Klein was founded by the german immigrant Mathias Klein
Most important things in the USA were founded and invented by Germans.
Germany rules the world đ€©đ©đȘ
@@PYROWORKSTV Which was easy, if you made up for 30% of the population until the irish came in đ
German ancestry is still making up 37% of white America...
So the video is about german tools vs german tools?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventions_and_discoveries
Some thoughts as a European (Belgium)
- over here, Knipex is considered the absolute top of electricians tools
- over here, we only use round cables in housing and industrial cabling. If Iâm not mistaking, in the US a lot of flat cabling is used. This explains the different shape of cable cutters compared to your US made tools.
- over here weâre all jealous of them German bastards with their super high quality *everything*
- over here, we see American made tools and machines in general as quite crude, and âproudly made in the USâ is definitely not perceived as a quality label ... đ€
We only use the flat stuff for residential (Romex). The wire isn't actually flat either, it's just 3 (usually) normal wires inside of a plastic sheath together side by side.
davidpkm We have the 3 as well, but twisted in a round sheeth, and with a differen color coding : blue for neutral, brown for live, and yellow/green for earth. Our cabling is also much thinner because we have 240 volts so less amps for the same power.
Building code here prescribes 16AWG with 16A breaker for lighting circuits, 14AWG with 20A breaker for outlets (both max 8 pcs per breaker) and 12AWG with 25A breaker for cooktop or oven.
Also, we describe cables as per their section in mm2, not by the number of times they were pulled through a gage. đ So we talk about 1.5 or 2,5 or 4 mm2 wires. Rule of thumb is 10 amps per mm2, easy-peasy.
Yeah, we metric folks are weird ...
Im suprised that Germany still has this good image, considered how many things are fucked up there.
@@jfk9374 We are surprised ourselves....
The US industrial grade stuff and older designs meant to be maintained not replaced in appliances is what is impressive. After common consumer level tools and such began to be made all over the world and offered cheap and often built to toss instead of repair manufacturers in the US also changed the product to reduce the cost as a reaction to consumers opting to purchase what cost less and match competitors. Seems pretty much all large manufacturers now design everything to be tossed rather then repaired in many things. Now in the last 25-30 years much of the consumer good industry moved overseas to China except for heavy industry, and military US manufacturing. The US is also a much larger population and for any given product you would have a range of options typically for many things and those options could come from many companies or even the same one offering a range from cheap and affordable to nothing compromised in design and function.
You need to know - in germany pretty much nobody uses such a giant belt of tools. I mean a Hammer and maybe one or two other peaces yes - but not as much as that.
In germany we allways carry our Tool-Suitcase. That way its much more
organized and you can carry more with you.
I also feel like you cant say that tools from company XY are the best. They must suit your use. Thats the most important thing.
" much more organized "
best way to describe germany workers
Tools are tools, some are better at some jobs than others. Depends on what you are doing.
Suitcase... we would call that a Tool Bucket with pouches or a tote. That works for some jobs. Especially trouble shooting. For installation it is NOT efficient. A toolbelt or a tool vest is the only way for installation. Bending over to grab/deposit tools and then having to grab the suitcase to move to next spot is NOT good for efficiency. For installation it is repition and all you need are ~6 tools, wirenuts, and ground crimps/screws, and powered screwgun.
@@Max-gq1qp The tools used, depends on the job. Like every other job. Lets take two VERY common SIMPLE jobs for an electrician.
If you are replacing outlets then you only need 6 tools + parts and can get away with 5 often. Powered screw driver, double ended screwdriver, strippers, linemans pliers, outlets, covers, tester, flashlight if it is NOT on your screwgun and bucket to sit on/hold tools/parts. If on the other hand you are doing NEW construction then you need all of those tools stated above; a hammer, marking pen, E-tape, wire nuts(at least 2 different sizes and usually 3 and sometimes 4) crimps, knife staples, measuring tape, BIG screwdriver.
Now I do not know about you, but those tools DO NOT fit in your pockets even if you are doing outlets.
Maybe we here in the USA bid jobs more often so efficiency rules and do less paid by-the-hour where you can screw over your customers with your INEFFICIENCY because you wish to be "comfortable"?
@@w8stral Judging by how most of your single family homes in the US are made from paper and are not very long-lived, I don't think you're one to talk ;)
@@TheRealCormagh â Typical: you have zero argument, nor are you an electrician so instead try slander instead. Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Your mum would be so proud!
Anstatt fĂŒr eine Klausur zu lernen schau ich mir lieber ''Scheren'' fĂŒr Elektriker an... wtf.
"Scheren"
nennt man auch "Zange".
Hmmm ich söllte fĂŒr Physik Abi lernen hmmmmm
Viel GlĂŒck
@@homeoopatix5086 Ich fĂŒr Wirtschaft und recht lol
You got it perfectly right at 2:26 > German native speaker who loves Knipex tools.
Nope
@@knieperkohl He is right. Its Knipex not Kniiipex.
@@alexwithanx Otherwise it would be "Kniepex"
@@alexwithanx How do you pronounce Mine or Lid then? But all that doesn't matter cause according to their own promotional videos its pronounced with a long i.
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2:26 Yes! Shoutout from Germany đ©đȘ
As an Auto Electrician in Australia I'll say that the Knipex Insulated Electrician pliers are worth every penny. I paid the extra for the 1000v rated ones as the grip and comfort is worth it if you appreciate a well made tool.
What I like about Knipex tools is the quality of the steel used, especially the hardness and wear resistance.
They will even cut hard steel wire like piano or spring wire within the specified range and do that for 40 years, only when you abuse these they will get damaged.
Use these tools were they are designed for and they last a lifetime and that of your children as well, I still use the wire nippers which my dad bought 55 years ago when he was working in concrete construction and they are still as sharp as when he bought them.
Knipex pliers and Wera screwdrivers.
@James Edward nope wra is in my opinion the king off screwdrivers and bits
@James Edward no they are the most comfortabel i have ever used the look strange in the begining but i love them
Knipex , Wiha & CK :)
True , don"t suit me also , prefer the Wiha soft-finish :)
Felo ergo are great with the "squidgy" handle..........
Respected sir, one or two things as an electrician (actually electronics technician) in an open pit coal mine somewhere between eastern and western Europe. Cutters are probably smaller since we are mostly using 220/380 V AC so the currents are much smaller and hence the wire diameter, and we are not using those cutters You have for anything thicker than 6 mm2 (not sure, about 10 awg), there are cutters that look like that non isolated ones but with good isolated handles, and we use those two half moon shape [()], scissor like cutters for bigger wires. On the side of rusting equipment and WD40, I know lot of people can put a hand for it, nothing against that, but put a drop or two of some real oil after working those pliers out. That will stay much longer without rust and working. Best Regards
Germany.
The Home of professional tools. đđđ
@NickoLps Nein. Darfst halt nicht geizen
@NickoLps Stupid statement, since German is the language of poets and thinkers and not English. You idiot.
DĂ€mliche Aussage, da deutsch die Sprache der Dichter und Denker ist und nicht Englisch. Du Vollpfosten.
@NickoLps
I wonder about disrespectful behavior the English speekers show in case of confrontation with a foreign language. So boring but eye-opening.
@NickoLps Ha, you're a funny lil fella. aren't cha?
Wieso redet ihr ĂŒberhaupt mit so einem Vollhonk? Wie dumm muss man sein um sich von HitlersprĂŒchen triggern zu lassen? Der Kerl verarscht euch offensichtlich oder er ist einfach ein Spaten.
I am from Germany and we got about 3 or four generations of this set acquired from years... Even the 25-30 year old ones still work like the new ones.
Here in Germany it is more common to have the most tools inside of a toolbox and cary the most used tools inside of wide pockets or simply only insert one handle....
Im not a professional tho. I could have false impressions because of our local elections.
aye thats true you can use quality tools for a very long time. But you need to clean them and take care of them. As a test we used one of the toolboxes you can get sometimes at Aldi and the tools were broken after 2 years of use 5 days a week. And iam a professional of course :D
@@mrn234 doesn't seem a bad score to me, 2 years of professional use out of a low budget home gamer tool set.
Enough to get you started so you can make some money for a set of pro tools...
Am I wrong here?
In the compamy i work for, i only see people with toolboxes.
Most of my coworkers only wear a pair of working trousers with many pouches on them and maybee stick like 5 tools max into them.
Then they place their toolbox in a central place and work something for a couple hours, when they need to Change what they are working on they fo to their box put their tools back and take new ones.
More often they find theirselfs doing the same work for half a day and them changing something or working from a central place, where it is easier to place a box and just to return there than carrying a massive 5 to 10 pound pouch filled with stuff.
@@remcovanvliet3018 No, you're absolutely right, exactly my thoughts... they are amortized long time ago...
ja du hast recht, ich trage die auch immer nur mit dem griff in der Tasche und meine Knipex sind noch von meinem Vater also fast 30 Jahre alt.
Impressions of germany:
we put one handle in the bag and one handle outside, so we can carry more tools in the bag and see what type of pliers it is.
Screwdrivers we use often Wiha or Wera but always isolated to 1000V.
For crimping there are specific pliers from Klauke or WeidmĂŒller.
sorry for bad english
WERA is life, WERA is love
your english is great.
Curious on what brand drills you guys use
@@TheSlow78 Milwaukee fuel
@@abdulelkhatib2674 what about screw drivers. Iâm reading that the wera laser tips break and wiha isnât what it used to be
You need to do a vid about tool pouches. Love listening to your stories & really wanna hear that one, as I AGREE 100% with you.
Yes ^
I am a Dutch Electricien, and i use these tools all the time. However, if we have to work on live power, we use a different set of tools, wich are rated at a higher voltage.
Depends on what you work for. For example in my case, working on live power would also mean I would most likely kill myself. (Powergrid) but those 600/1000V ones are pretty much alright for normal lower voltage. In the end, working on live is pretty much prohibited anyways. So its more of a safety thing then a "I can" (Austria).
In germany nobody works with tools in their belt.
nur mit nem schraubendreher in der hosentasche, den man dann ewig sucht, weil man vergisst das er da steckt ^^
@@JaayPLP dafĂŒr haben unsere arbeitshosen doch extra halter extra auf handhöhe... pfff.
yes we place them either in our pantpockets or just hold on to them
2 Werkzeuge in meiner hose nutze ich fĂŒr fast 99% der Arbeit...
Meine waputang und mein LĂŒgenstift đđ
Phil Kramer ein richtiger elektro-Klempner
From a former Knipex employee: Knipex pliers are the bar. They are expensive. But if you treat them right they'll last for decades.
Knipex is also a good employer. I would recommend everyone to get a job in this company. They give you the time that's needed to do your job right. They pay well and the working atmosphere is very good. I've always enjoyed working there.
I'm 21 and the Knipex Cobra I use is older than I am
@@MyMadspirit That's what I mean! đ
Without seeing the video... Knipex is of course better than Klein. 2:26 how you say it there is totally correct!
Cap
Kleinâs are for construction & common electrical use
Knipex are for professional everyday electrical use
Kleinâs are the workhorse
Knipex are the precision
Knipex cant cut
Mj - I hope you're joking.
Knipex are workhorses too. Even more so if anything.
Both make great tools. One isnât universally better than the other, I noticed certain tools are superior to others. Klein makes the best linesman while Knipex electrical installation pliers might be my favourite all round tool. Get both tools instead of just always buying one brand.
German here. As you thought, your pronounciation at 2:26 was spot on. When you were "corrected" it got worse. ItÂŽs not "knee-pex". But anyways, I guess most people on planet earth are used to Americans who butcher all kind of names. I mean not that we like it, weÂŽre just used to it. And your effort to do it right is very much appreciated. Thank you. And as I said your pronounciation at 2:26 was perfect. And for the tools I think it was a good review.
Electrically insulated tools are what every electrician use in Finland. I would never work with anything else, no matter what I'm doing. (Profession wise, ofcourse)
VITUUUU
Just out of curiosity, do you guys use your own standards in Finland or do you use German VDE standards for convenience's sake?
@@rippspeck I'm not quite sure what VDE contains, but we use "SFS 6000" standard for electric works. Most probably very similar with germany's standard.
@@TheLassing0r Perkele
@@rippspeck VDE is part of IEC, so the local definitions will almost be identical www.vde.com/en/working-areas/vde-international
Iâm from Germany and working with knipex... you pronounce it pretty good!
The stuff knipex make is just great!
I currently used their precision cutters and a special tool for LAN-cables a lot (because building a network).
The precision cutters worked great (until you abuse them with way to hard and way to thick material like I did đ«)
The LAN-cable-tool worked perfect! I installed Cat 7 cables which have much thicker cores that Cat 6 cables so you need special RS-45 plugs and a thoug tool to press the contacts into the core.
After installing nearly 100m of cane I came to the conclusion: only knipex, nothing else, this stuff just works for ever!
Es hat sich so eingebĂŒrgert ist aber nicht richtig. Das "i" wird lang ausgesprochen.
I god damn it love my Knipex cobra, top of the notch and it literally works for EVERYTHING
No idea how i ended up here, thumbs up for your pronunciation of "Knipex", that was almost perfekt! And, germans are stronger in general so they don't need longer handles for leverage :-D
Ouha erstmal eine Ansage gemacht an die "schwachen Ammis" :D
We're either stronger or pain ist relative
Ich könnte auch sagen Deutsche haben kleinere HÀnde...hahaha
I feel it's more that due to the 240 residential systems used in Germany you work with thinner wiring. Which is not a bad thing. We run thicker wire I the US so we use higher leverage cutting tools.
Ya'll realize a Joke when you see one, right?
I own a lot of Klein tools. Crimpers, nut drivers and screwdrivers but I love my knipex pliers. Nickel plated and 1000 volt insulated.
Best tip I ever got when using Klein linesmans for a hammer. Never knock the little man off the pole. The hinge side has the lineman on the pole
This guy is very smart on details Iâve never thought of. Two thumbs and two toes up
Even though the pliers that aren't specifically rated and all say they aren't insulated, the fact is they generally do provide enough protection for standard line voltage. Knipex makes really good tools. Their slip joint (channel lock) pliers have a really good design. As for beating on things, that's what a hammer is for. Don't mess up well made pliers using them for that.
U can get them with different handle sizes 160mm, 180mm, 200mm ;)
Exactly. Thats why he doesn't like the wire cuters, he's comparing an 18 to a 16... And the reason why he doesn't like the grips is because he's comparing the non isolated tools to the one that are. And Knipex ofc makes those too... and they don't have the "so much up front"...
So basicaly... before saying anything maybe he should have checked the catalog...
â@@uegvdczuVF I have been looking for this comment. It just has safety reaons that these tool have so much isolation. If you work with electricity and you slip off the handle, then you may have a big problem.
regarding the isolation, warranty ends at the door, because when dented, that isolation can't be guaranteed anymore. If you want to work safe, insist on installations being switched off. If they say it can't be done, it's then just a matter of their money vs. you risking your life. Greetings from the Netherlands.
My plier says on it......M Klein and son, 1975 and still using them today. No blow up holes and sharp as ever.
Also I keep my HV tools in a separate bag to keep them from damage.
Thank you for mention the installation tool, didn't hear of that before! Going to buy it for my cousin as present. By the way, electricians in Germany stick the Knipex tools inside the pouch with one handle, but it can be pulled out by the finger border, that also locks it in the pouch.
The smaller opening angle of the side cutters is specially done to protect the tool from thick cables. Knipex has a bunch of different side cutters for different material and there diameters. The nice thing is, that you don't need to remember which one was for which cable. When it looks and feels wrong, your side cutter is too small and you need a bigger one.
For pliers I go with Knipex, for screwdrivers I go with a different German brand, Wiha. In my opinion makes some of the best insulated screwdrivers.
Fun fact, klein means small in German
fun fact: celery
Yeah but itâs a name too sooo
@@checkcommentsfirst3335 Its a german surname, its the same with Calvin Klein, Levi StrauĂ aso.
I wanted to add that CLC (Custom LeatherCraft) has what I think is a great electrician's bag, it has provisions to be worn with a belt, but it is can also be hung near your work space, it has a zippered flap that conceals the tools inside and has a velcro strap to keep the flap open when you are working. Great quality and design (I have a few more CLC bags for my other types of tools) it helps to have a dedicated spot for each tool you own, it will remind you when you see an empty slot to track down where you used that tool last.
We use Knipex pliers in my father's business. Not too keen on the newer ones (they seem to dull faster than the old ones), but we still have ones which say 'Made in West Germany' on them, which still work, look and feel like new
You fool! German tools are the best in the world!
As is German comedy.....
wait, is that a jojoâs reference?
Braka monoga
@@stavrospapadimitriou7631 There is no comedy in Germany, only wörk
you utter Fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollll
Go out and buy a 2 1/2" Knipex Cobra. You will never regret!
true ^^
I use the knipex Cobra every day. its amazing :D Wera , Wiha and Knipex thats the 3 i use. they never disappoint.
I can only agree with that! I also have a chinese replica, but that's not worth it. You pinch your fingers and it is wobbly. The original is absolutely great!
@@4stringm best thing that stuff lasts forever. buy knipes or wera and your grandchildren will use them too :D
@@n8wolf575 I have both, but with WERA I had issues with breaking tips. Even with the Chiseldrivers. I have had better experiences with Felo screwdrivers. Older WERA screwdrivers seem to be better than the current ones. As for wrenches and sockets, I'm a big Stahlwille fan, expensive but they forgive gross abuse.
The Knipex plastic pliers are also pretty interesting. I'm getting some for my work that involves going into switchgear.
The insulated pliers wrench is phenomenal to hold.
Watching this a year after you posted, but your first pointer you said got you another sub! Way too many DIYers and Jr Electricians donât under the difference between insulated and electrically insulated/isolated tools! Super stoked you mention that right out the gate! I just hope they never have to witness or have a serious shock or an arc flash!
don't stick them with the head down, use one handle, stick one handle into the pocket of the belt (probably wont work with the very long heads but the rest fits)
Those Klein tools look actually like the cheap tools amateurs usually buy in hardware stores over here in Germany.
For Skinning tools I would recomend WeidmĂŒller Stripax or Knipex MultiStrip ... everything else is bungling
Habe ich mir auch gedacht, sieht eher aus wie etwas was in unserer gartenhĂŒtze liegt wenn man mal was schneiden muss oder rumwerkelt
The crimping difference is really an issue for thin crimpers, double crimping can sometimes release or loosen the first crimp....my two cents.
I love my Klein 11 in 1, except for I'm not a fan of handle that Klein puts on it. The Lenox multi screwdriver has a way more comfortable handle,and this is very important if you're going to be using it all day everyday. So, what I did was I took my Lenox multi screwdriver and my Klein 11 in 1 and I switched the handle's. Now I have all of the good options of the Klein 11 in 1 with the most comfortable handle on the market.
Knipex ain't that expensive, yet decent quality.
Greetings from Germany, everybody! đ
I think it expensive in the us because they are imported. Still pretty cheap in switzerland
PetrosRZ yeah itâs pretty expensive in the Us to by Knipex
19:30 - the reason for the large nub on the grip is to prevent your hand from slipping off the grip onto the metal part and shocking the user.
The oldest tools in my shop are Knipex pliers and Bessey Clamps. My father bought them, when he was even younger than me. They work like day 1 and were heavily used.
Knipex cobra channel locks (water pump pliers) and the diagonal cutters with the longer handles (high leverage) are amazing! I'm happy with Klein for most everything else but haven't gone in on many insulated tools yet.
As long as it's not Chinese đđ» USA, German, Japanese tools, all great stuff.
Sry to disapoint you, but usa made stuff is normally not that good as german / japanese stuff... a lot of japanese suff can be fake, but made in USA deffenetly isnt that great...
US is not on the same tier as German or Japanese tools
there is nothing bad about chinese tools. If you pay 2$ for a chinese tool instead of 50$ for oe that's made in germany you definitely get what you paid for.
Murican tools ainât close to German quality
The US has been slowly degrading since the 60âs. Our country is nothing but a tool itself. You Germans/Japanese need to be proud of your country
what are these messurements?? like 1/3 inch, 11/8 inch, 41.7993/33.5 inch? ever tryed counting to ten?
inch sucks just used in america xD
#Hater there are like 3 other countries not using the superior metric system
You get used to it. I grew up on metric, but adopted the imperial system while working here. Raging against it is like fighting with wind mills.
Used knipex for years, last few years been using klein since they have been importing to the UK. However my favorite brand now is Bahco. The steel in particular is superb!
Expert note:
The red/blue insolation is the same than the red/yellow one. but the red/yellow one was tested, the other one was not.
so if you have an accident with the red/blue version on electricity the trade association in germany could refuse to pay for the accident.
my fav crimp tool is from phoenix contact. but its about 160âŹ. it will crimp 8 sides and gives you a near to be round end of the cable.
for screwdivers check out the WIHA LiftUp.
I own Klein personally. This was mainly due to my first set of lineman pliers were Klein. I was impressed with them being 6 years old when I got them and they still worked perfectly. As a commercial electrician I work with a lot of electricians with many years experience. When I was a new apprentice I constantly asked the more experience electricians what brand they prefer and use. Most own Klein due to the availability here in the US the rest own channel lock and Knipex with a few other brands. What was common among all the electricians I talked to over time is they all swear and standby the brand they use. Truth is both Klein and Knipex are German with the only difference being the recipe they use for their steel. They both have outstanding reputations for durability. No matter if you buy Klein or Knipex you'll only need to buy them once for a life time. They both offer the same tools with the same features on them. The Klein vs Knipex debate is pointless if you buy Klein or Knipex your still holding the best tool money can buy. It's all about preference. Update so after 2 years my Klein J20009necrtp are junk.. the pin is bent out of shape and there is such a wobble I can't use them anymore. Don't crank down on lineman pliers, lesson learned. Now I own a pair of Ideal 30-3430 9.5 inch linesman. So far I like them better than my old Kleins. The 30 dollar price over the 65 to 70 dollar price tag as Klein and Knipex is what really put the cherry on top.
6:30 there is a long knipex version KNIPEX 74 08 250
So true about all the pouches for the tools suck overall. My coworker had his pouch custom made from leather in Mexico for the brands of tools he likes to use regularly. It forms around all his tools so nicely. đ„°
I have quite a few Knipex pliers, but none are heavily insulated. I love the pliers - they are so well made and the steel is great. Instead of the Knipex version, though, I got a Southwire S7N1HD 7-In-1 Multi-Tool for crimping/stripping/cable-cutting, and I really like it. It's made in USA and it's almost as nice as a Knipex in fit and finish, and very versatile, and it's less than $35.
Starting a industrial electrical apprenticeship threw work canât wait Iâm pumped!!! Bought all Klein tools! Work in a mill.
As i know, Europeans mostly use toolboxes and not tool pouches, that's why you can't put German tool in your tool pouch.
Depends what. In Austria we use a combination. Toolbox to get them to your site easilly. and (many) decent sizes pouches in your trouser to jsut put them in (You only need a few anyways) to have them by hand (on the ladder)
"Stop laughing at me wench" - is when I knew I have found my long lost pirate brother.
Just had this discussion today at the job. Klein vs Knipex. My buddy switched over to Knipex and loves them, especially the channellocks
Superior tools for the superior race haha I'm kidding but I use kleins because thats what I've always used. Awesome review I'll have to try them out. I'm obsessed with quality tools. You would like my collection
You didn't mention one of Knipex's biggest selling points- the cutting surface is significantly harder than other brands. I have a pair of their side cutters that are 14yrs old and still look and cut better than snap-on, klien, channel lock etc.
True. Mine's about 15 years old now. I could check my dad's and that still yould cut the same being roughly 25-30 years old now.
The sheering cable cutter at the end, you really don't need bigger handles on it as it cuts through cable like a hot knife does butter. Had one from knipex and i loved it
Which one do you mean? I didn't see him using any tools to cut big cables.
If you want to cut big cables use something like this: cdn-reichelt.de/bilder/web/xxl_ws/D320/KN9531280.png
By the way, we do carry tools in the UK, but not usually more than we need right there and then and you rarely ever see a belt, usually we just have workpants which have extra pockets stitched in which hang loose from the waist of the trousers (like the DeWalt Pro Tradesman). We grab all we need from our bag for the job we are currently doing, which is usually sat in the room, then carry them in our work pockets. We also have problems carrying VDE rated cutters/pliers if theyre pointing handles up, so what we do is hang them with one handle in the pocket and the other handle out, with the business end pointing to the sky. That way you can see what they are if you have more than one pair and the handguard part isn't taking up room in the pocket. To grab them quickly you lift them out with your index finger and spin it in to your palm and you're good to go. I can easily fit a few screwdrivers, cutters (we use cutters to strip in the UK, if you can't do it with them, you shouldnt be a Spark is the way people treat it), pliers, knife, spanners and some spare bits to go glanding off SWA. Usually the sleeving is tied in a knot on a belt loop. Might carry my junior hacksaw in my hand. Just dont need a toolbelt.
There's a lot of evidence that carrying toolbelts long term causes repetitive strain injury, so there's a lot of discouraging information about using one when you could just have your toolbag nearby and you just move the bag once in a while and just carry what you need as you work.
I also dont really ever see anyone working, live or dead, with anything that isn't VDE rated. You might see some waterpump pliers or cable shears for SWA that arent rated because it doesn't go near the circuit, but all the tools you'd see on any site in the UK, they'd 99% have VDE, especially the newer generation such as you or I.
No question who makes better tools. A story from my experience. I worked in the trades for 35 years ( glass work). I had a contract with a tool manufacturer here in the states replacing all the doors and windows in several of the buildings at the manufacturing plant. During the several months of construction, they happen to be participating in a trade show. The owner was quit proud of a drill bit that they were making at the time that was a little less than the width of a human hair. A German manufacturer who happen to be at the same show, acted impressed by the quality of the drill bits. They took several samples back with them. Much to the chagrin of the owner, he received one of his drill bits in the mail a few weeks after the show, with a hole drilled in the shank. It was at best, a humility lesson.
No idea why i watched this video, im a fabricator not an electrician...but i found it very informational! lol
Literally the best electrician videos on the net! Thank you for doing these videos.
That Klein 6 in 1 screwdriver is the Extended Reach model, very useful. Knipex tools are awesome, I have several. And you are 100% correct about tool pouches. I'd rather have several small ones over one big one.
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there is actually a knipex version as large as the klein one.
the knipex channel locks are the best
Yeah those Kobras are worth every penny.
My head hurts now
Hello. I am an automotive mechanic and I also love electrical stuff. The 7-8 mm auto crimp you mentioned on that multi crimp tool is for crimping spark plug wires.
The Electrical Installation pliers are great cable cutters , and also good for 1/2-3/4 EMT , great for deburring . The Crimping die is for Euro style ferrules .
Canât have nice tools, people will just steal them
Theft indicates a weak team.
Where I'm at, we trust every member of our team. Even if we don't like each other very much, there is a mutual respect of each other and their property. We look out for and cover each other's backs.
This is something which doesn't come from the top down in meetings, money, or policy, the culture is created by the presence of liberty and an expectation of honor and integrity from each induvidual.
I wouldn't want to work anywhere else.
@@ProdigalSon-xn2om Its not yoir team who steals them..you have builder,painter, fake wall installers..the company which i work for builds hotels so a lot of people on the job site
@@csabakomives3216 That makes sense. Where I come from we only really work with 1 or 2 other contractor companies, on our jobsites. It's pretty tight knit, so everybody knows everybody.
The ones we really gotta watch out for are the operators. Those guys are shifty ducks.
Buy the pink Makita line, you need balls for using them but no one steals it
here in germany everyone uses those or a similiar priced set. so no fear of theft.... except from polish foreign workers.......but never loose sight of electrical tools. they grow feet when you're not looking.
U know that klein is a german name too?
i thought klein was the german company at first
@@gort1319 Probably German Immigrant.
@@1sĂŒdtiroltechnik You're right. Mathias Klein founded the Klein Tools in 1857.
Small tool pouch with a multi plier, a multi driver and ticker. Add or subtract depending on task. Keep the veto nearby
By the way
I'm a German industrial mechanic (don't know if this is the right translation) and this is one of the best and realistic American video about German stuff I've ever seen
yeah your right, but, you have to consider that the americans dont require Insulated Tools. Here in Germany they actually are required, at least where i work. If you come around the corner with an uninsulated tool, everyone stares at you :D
Can you do a apprentice tool pouch guide? I'm hopefully gonna be union soon and don't want to buy a super big pouch with belt and suspenders if I'm just going to be sweeping and putting on plates all day
czcams.com/video/qQcVyh1LGwo/video.html here you go
The union local you join will provide you with a tool list. Its all hand tools. As an apprentice you can probably safely start with dykes, lineman pliers, tape measure, torpedo level, hacksaw, channellocks, a couple screw drivers ph2 and flat tip, and a reamer. Also have pencil and sharpie on you. But realize your night get stuck running material, pulling wire, or digging to start.
I just wear my wrangler riggs and stick my tools in my pockets most of the time, I also have a very nice pouch that I will sometimes toss on top of a ladder, but any pouch will do really. My nice stuff that doesn't get used that often, such as my insulated stuff, meters and other testers I keep in my klein backpack, though i also keep my cheap meter in my pouch or back pocket. Drills, bit sets ect i keep in a bucket or my tool bags. If you have an elastic belt and suspenders you can stick a ton of tools in those to I usually keep my hammer just stuck in my belt. A lot of my power tools have their own cases. Hope this helps!
I see a lot of work cart use and a small pouch for "pocket tools" the most common tools used
Knipex tool are not expensive, those are tools you only buy once in your life...they will outlive you and serve your next of kin like they did you when you are long gone.
Well, they're expensive in comparison, but their value easily justifies the price
Fujiya's Kurokin label of tools outclasses knipex
The major drawback to the Klein multi-tool is that the first time you use it to twist out a knockout the jaws get bent and never work properly again.
Thank you so much for the video. I usually keep these tools knipex head up.
Personally, I really donât like Kleinâs tool, only the 10 in 1... other than that, my favorite electrical tools are Knipex and Milwaukee...
Original, German craft made Tools.. and stuff in general is just the best, i don't think there is any country that so broadly makes quality stuff such as Germany!
Not to discount american craft made stuff. but you gotta admit...
Dont forget the swiss industry mate.. thats also quality shit coming out there
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@@max.power89 germany 1, germany2 and germany3? They're all germans, speak german etc too...
@@AwoudeX did you really just say that swiss people speak german?...
6:42 : There are also cutters like you mentioned: High Leverage Diagonal Cutters 8 inch and even 10 inch long ;-)
Man, the Knipex strippers that strip 10-20 are where itâs at, that cutting shear also cuts through MC like butter, and I life the flat wide gripping head like the blue Klein combo strippers. Best Knipex tool they make in my opinion.
I have to say something because there is a post some people about better us is better than German. Here some points of me how lives in Germany and have family in the USA and visited them and looked a little bit in the points of difference:
1. The German have relay hard declaration obligation. It means you can every time read on the packaging of the products what is in it, what can it do or not. For example in catalogs in Germany for tool are the first sites only to explain the whole declaration on the products.
-In the USA i missing sometimes some information so that I must ask the seller. In Germany I am only asking where can I found it what I seek.
2. To sell something in Germany everything must be checked to do that for what you are selling it or you are a criminal if you declare something wrong on it. For this purposes there are in relation of the security of the customer how often it must be checked. I know it because every half year, year or maximal two years there are coming to disturb me. They are watching me is my workplace tidy, it means structured and that bad components are to 100% declared as bad (in my opinion that bad parts are in red boxes and that the red boxes are only for bad parts).
That the documentations are correct (control plan, Operating Procedure in paper form and control card where I must sign that I made all controls what are written down in the control plan). If we are not doing it we are loosening the certification and the contracts with the companies for what we are working. And the controls are people out of my company of our contractors and a neutral Organization.
And how I am working. If I am missing at some point the first point to get a new training session or I cannot work anymore at the product.
-In the USA I often had the feeling that the standard what must be checked is lower. Not in all areas but in enough to be worried. My biggest concerns are the USA food industry. (If you are not believing me seek the videos of Americans who are living now in Germany and hear them out).
3. There was a Post over Chernobyl. First of all Chernobyl was in northern Soviet Ukraine in the USSR not in Germany. Second what was in Harrisburg Pennsylvania at the March 28, 1979.
4. US Military standard have the same problem like all armies of the world that often the soldiers must pay for the corruption of some people with cheap equipment until it got fixed. I mean what was with the first M16 loading inhibition until it got replaced with the M16A1 improvements include a bolt-assist, chrome-plated bore and a 30-round magazine. The first Sherman tanks in WW2 and the problem to get easy on fire, but there were cheap and outnumbered the enemy. And I am thinking that the USA are paying enough Military Projects today what will not have any benefits for the soldiers like it is in Germany in the moment.
5. And this is my personal view that both countries are living in the moment of old benefits in history and forget to move forward. It is not that China get more and more bigger in the industry because its China. Our countries are only thinking abut how they can stop them but not to evolve further. In the moment we have the quality (both countries in some Products) but every year we are loosing more and more.
The Sherman did not catch on fire any more than other tanks as a matterof fact it was safer than german tanks
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Yeah that was war we kinda fucked up there.
Military still sucks quite hard. Ever heard of the faulty G36 assault rifle.
Some here were jokingly calling it "the first gun that shoots around corners".
Another fun fact for those foreigners with working militairies:
There used to be a official youtube series about the Bundeswehr trainees, that was pretty much like (scripted) reality tv, as far as i can tell.
Its still online on the "Bundeswehr Exclusive" Channel, if you check their playlists. Its called "DIE REKRUTEN"
Apart from burning money the Bundeswehr isn't really good for anything.
If we used our police forces for warfare we would probably have better chance,
I guess its time to consider a european army instead of individual armys for the EU nations, but for that to be useful in any way we'd have to fix the EU first.
Because why have an army if you can't even make fucking decisions.
The side cutters being so close to the pivot is on purpose, to increase leverage.
I use the knipex tools and I know first hand that they protect from shock. A buddy and I were replacing a heat pump and the breakers were off (so we thought) he put his lineman's on the main and cut. Well, it blew the main panel. Once I located and reset power he was flat against the wall from being scared not from an electrical shock. Well he was just fine, not a burn,shock or anything. From that day on these are all I use. Haven't had a pair wear out on me yet accept the linesman's that got damaged from the shock.
you also need a Jokari and a Stripax, if you want some German electrician hand tools. At least I use them almost daily đđ»
I can use my Knipex pliers to cut hairs, actually, they match up that close...
Yes. They also will cut through your fingers... don't try that though
Klein screwdrivers and Knipex pliers
Try a snap on screwdriver and your Klein will be in the back of the back up box lol
@@chrisjones6165 Fuck Snap On.
@@chrisjones6165 I have both and thats not true maybe in automotive and if your in automotive try vessel and you will see snap on is not as great as you think it is
@@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987 I love the grip on the snap on instinct so there my favorite. Hold up well at work as well although I'm a hydronics welder so not a heavily used tool but they do get used
You mean wera screwdrivers and knipex pliers right
Tough Built tool pouches is what I've been using the last 3 years and I'll never use another. They're reasonably priced, have tons of options, they last, and the best part is the quick disconnect from your belt. For when you need to get on the floor or into a tight space or for taking a break or going from job to job, you don't need to undo your belt; Just click it right off.
I just love the look and feel of that black satin finish iron.
Klien makes insulated tools
Not like they used to.
They cater to production instead of quality......my opinion
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Love how you say "big fan of klein" when klein means small in German :p ("klen" in my language, swedish, and our neighbors language norwegian means both small and weak) xD
In Norwegian "klein" can mean small, weak and/or awkward... ;)
As far as various pliers go I haven't yet found anything better than Knipex. The adjustable pliers of theirs are simply the best around. The compact bolt cutter is also especially nice.
âNobody makes a good pouch, they all suck. Every single one of them.â đ True!