SC2 - Dark vs. Maru - Grand Final - DreamHack SC2 Masters: Valencia 2022
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Thanks for sharing this, I don't play SC2 but love to watch high level games and it's awesome having somewhere to watch without a paywall as other sports. Love seeing players go as hard as these two did. Great series!
Remember, it's free, and the single player campaign is very accessable to new players. :)
Shoutout to the AfreecaTV eSports channel, too. Posting free english GSL content within 24 hours of airing.
There are many channels, u just found this one and didnt search for other xd
@@Mpacitto wow its free ??
Same dude 😂. I don't play this thing much but I love watching its tournaments
Maru when he wins -_-
Maru when he loses -_-
That’s just his Asian face
@@Schacal6666 I guess Creator isn't Asian
he is been a pro since 12 years old.
The guy just win a lot and lose a lot throughout his career already, hes hardly having any emotion at this point.
thats gotta be racist bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great series, really glad to see Dark use underused tools such as drops and burrow harass. It shows there are still many innovative strategies yet to discover to shake things up.
Meh it only works on stargazers
drops and burrow are hardly innovative
Looks like a GSL preview
Dark playing out of his mind to end the games before Maru could get ghosts out. Wonderful back and forth early/mid games. Great series!
Smart play. Maru ghosts are just too much.
even in that longer mech game from maru, dark kept investing in the low value units to minimize his army cost and make ghost not justifiable, simply because having ghost sniping roaches/ravagers while getting rushed with ling/bane with the help of hosts, i mean that just aint gonna cut it cost wise, you need zerg to lose way more than that and dark never gave maru that, and it worked great.
Life figured it out years ago. I have always seen Dark as his successor.
@@garryarganis5801 Yeah, Maru saw Dark went with the mass ling bane style, double evol and 3 macro hatches, all he needed to do was to build shit load of Tanks and Mines, and start making sim city around the base. He failed to make the change for it and it cost him this match.
Dark is not yet "zergy" minded, he lost two consecutive games playing zerg with a protoss mindset, if he was able to "adapt" instead of repeating something that doesn't work, the series ended 4-1 not 4-3
My god, what an amazing series. This right here is the best Zerg against the best Terran in the world folks.
we may get that in GSL as well
Ummmm serral???
@@michaelgharib9028 not this year
@@RapidReveal541 Serrals winning a lot this year though the only reason he isnt here is because he didn't attend the event
@@michaelgharib9028 he's toss now lol
The ultralisk attacking the rock in the final battle tho XD
Nice spot! LOL
That ultra: call me if you need me guys, I'll just do some R&R until then.
This rock looked at me funny
@@seojaepark It was a punk rock.
@@vamsiampolu8438 Nice!
Pig 🐖 is the perfect balanced caster. Great voice, great timing, insight into the game, energy and doesn't add a lot of fluff.
terrible casters.
They were clearly rooting for Dark
@@sandsack123 they def are terrible. The game has been set up to be so obviously biased for zerg to win and these pricks are acting all excited like Dark is the bestest evar. The frustration on Maro's face says it all because he knows. How does a player of Maru's caliber and the other Terran players in the top 10 constantly get their asses kicked in the finals? Its because Zerg is so much more overpowered.
@@with.the.y and that isn't allowed??
@@cavemantero setup for zerg to win
Wtf does that mean
Sc2 is one of the most balanced games ever
Zerg only seems better because of the players
Where's serral the best player in the world ?
He didn't make it to semis
But zerg is favoured to win
Wake up
A great final. Hope for many more to come. Dark's variable style is most refreshing.
Stunning games! also this might be the single greatest casted series. Pig and Wardi built off each other so well!
I agree. The casting was excellent
Lol
@@JJEMTT ca (chuckle audibly)
Simplemente maravilloso lo que hacen estos jugadores!!!
Woaw, what a great series! Only SC2 ! Thanks to all, Maru & Dark!
Phew. Thank god we had Zerg win. I was worried we were almost going to have another race win for the first time in five years.
All is balanced again.
I'd be worried if the Terran could just forget to close his depot a couple of times like that and still win a major tournament
@@MyNameIsXYlp Thats true, Terran is probably the easiest race to play at the pro level. The nerve of Maru to not babysit his depots while playing with three hands and carrying Terran like Atlas. It disgusts me.
Its disgusts me so much, in fact, that we should take action. Stand up for whats right, and give +1 air range to queens.
I’d have agreed with you were it not for the fact that Maru was wayyyyyy inferior to Dark in terms of defensive response. This says a lot coming from a zerg hater
@@jkkim6928 Does Maru have queens? Does Maru have a mechanic that allows him to see his entire half of the map or more at all times? No?
Why are you shocked his defensive responses are slower? Zerg has more defensive tools that require less effort.
I think Zerg does have a slight advantage over the other races, but I also think Dark outplayed Maru in these finals. I think Maru was probably tired after playing long, technically demanding matches against Reynor and HeroMarine. That exhaustion, plus nerves, probably factored into Maru's mistakes. I think weekender formats can be brutal for this reason alone, especially for Terrans with shoulder/wrist issues.
What a sight to behold, the absolut highest level of SC2. Still at marvel to spectate that game at its finest. SC2 is truly a game for the history books.
And _great_ commentary as well 🤌Very good job breaking the games and the very complex plays down to the details in realtime. Cant imagine how challenging it must be. Good job!
I live for that 2 base all-in. 1:25:00 . Just ferocious and immaculate Maru. 👌🏼❤️
Hasnt played for years. Still enjoys the show. PLayers are amazing. Seems zerg movement is op.
Only on creep but that's kinda the whole point of the matchup I think.. The problem might be in Terran having to target-fire a lot of stuff but if add more splash to the Terran then Zerg needs something of an earlier tank-damage unit in return to be more aggressive
zerg is still broken. How many more times do we have to see the replay of zerg rolling in banes to wipe out bases in a matter of seconds? Its stupid.
queens op af too
@@WhatsY0UTUB3 yep...they are too strong early game and allow the bane masses. Its obvious developer bias because queens should cost a significant amount of gas, banes should be lair tech at earliest, and other units should've been made to fill the weaknesses changing that would create. Also why are locusts and broodlings still free when Interceptors/Scarabs are not?
I think Creep is most problematic, Zerg just knows everything and has super fast unit rotation...
How to counter ghosts as a Zerg?
Dark: FInish the game before they get too many.
Yeah, thats how Serral played to beat Maru as well, went hard in the mid-game, dont let it get to lategame.
@@tigera6 I still think this is not a healthy state for ZvT.
@@mark11tz Yeah, but if you want to shift the game ot TvZ back into midgame, you need to nerf Ghost and buff something else from Terran side to make that more feasible. As things are right now, Terran cant reallly fight Zerg in early and mid game, Zerg can just expand, upgrade while defending everything unless Terran player go for an all-in type of pressure.
@@tigera6 This. Thank you for speaking this out sir. All they are talking about right now is how op the ghost is but the core reason is solely because zerg doesn't even allow terran to compete in early/mid game, clearly evidenced by how dark wiped the floor with maru in game 1 and 2 effortlessly. The zerg is already dominating for so long and they want to make it even worse by nerfing the only competition left which is terran's entire late game....sigh....
@@tigera6 I think Thor is the issue here. Ghost is so versatile as we know but any changes on ghost will influence TvP as well. Making adjustment on Thor and buff something (mech) else can avoid the impact on TvP and mid game TvZ. The problem about the unhealthiness is that winning in "that (ultra passive turtle)" way is unhealthy. Similar problem happens to late game ZvP in pro level. Protoss has to beat Zerg before the ultimate Zerg army comes out in super late game (unhealthy again). However, at least the army of the turtle side (Zerg) is harder to control than the scenario happens to TvZ (Thor + ghost no need stim any more).
Great games from Dark and Maru, and a really close series! 🙂
awesome final definitely the best two of all the tournament.... dark could break that insane defensive maru's style
He didnt, mostly he try to finish Maru off before it reaches that state.
Wow great final, so glad I watched it!
Dark did something that alot of zerg players overlook. And that is being aggressive, harass, and attack early in the game. Usually its only terran and protoss that does the harassing. Maru got caught off guard by those early attacks. And especially for maru, who is an expert at terran harass, was not ready to defend because he planned on being the attacker instead of the defender.
I am a Maru fan but I have to call BS on this, how hard is it to build a spoting Reaper/Helion for these kind of Zergling runby. To me its about the reaction and set up. There is no excuse if you cant raise the wall in time for it.
@@tigera6 as a Maru fan you should know that fragile Maru doesn't have the endurance for overseas tournament. When did he ever win a championship in the western hemisphere? exactly, never. He had over 2hours series vs reynor..
@@gotentk4 It doesnt matter, because he still not playing well enough and lost, whatever the reason is. And even with your claim that Maru doesnt have the endurance, he still dragged it all the way to game 7 against Dark who play at tip top shape. So I am fine with the result, but lets hope Maru can win one of those tournament at some point.
I mean, didnt people say that Maru NEVER won online tournament before, and he showed up and won like 4 of them last year. Never say never, I guess.
idk if you still play sc2 or played but dark and maru can do both just fine. dark had better scouting this finals and because of great scouting his reaction was so much better than maru. ggez
Most Z don't get aggressive because it loses *way* more games than it wins.
Maru repeatedly left his depots down and didn't wall off his thirds, then pride marched everything to the nearest creep tumor he could find.
Diamond players will wall off as soon as their army leaves and reinforcements will pile up behind the depots to protect them.
Getting aggressive means sacrificing drones to build zerglings that are typically useless vs hellions, critical mass of marines, banshees and libs. And then not being able to attack with them.
It's only at the very pinnacle where Maru cuts these extreme kinds of corners that you can even find a use for the extra lings. At any other level, you're better off with an extra base as long as you can successfully defend.
Since I can remember, Maru never fixed his weakeness of raising supply depots. From Life till now.. it's still the same.
Wow, game 3 was incredible!
Match 2 @11:00
Match 3 @21:17
Match 4 @44:55
Match 5 @1:12:37
Match 6 @1:25:24
Match 7 @1:39:37
Incredible games! Some of the best Zerg I've ever seen. Maru did work too, bringing this series back down 2 games. Outstanding stuff.
The fact that Maru tied that is awesome :)
Wow that game number 4 was insane. Both players ripped each other to shreds
Fantastic series. This is why i love sc2
Whatever the result i become maru fan, good luck next time maru!!!!
Pig is the coolest non GSL commentator. His energy just courses into the matchup.
The game that never die
C'mon ESL - why not show the victor's interview at least! 1hr 53 minute video and can't spare another 5 minutes?
Not surprised for the game result. Dark/Rogue are personal cryptonites for Maru. Maru can beat Serral /Reynor because they don't know Maru's weaknesses
I wish you didn't cut these so precisely, include the pre game discussion and interviews as well. It's easy to skip and masks the game length as well.... It's not easy to watch these on twitch VODs so this is all we have.
It was funny watching Maru play Reynor, he was totally calm and non-plussed the entire time. Here, against Dark, he looks agitated.
He’s tired of losing to Serral/Rogue/Reynor/Dark.
This is his livelihood, after all.
Reynor play into Maru strength, which is the late game. Dark having none of that, he flat out trying to kill Maru before it reaches lategame.
@@tigera6 game 4 was late game
@@michawiercinski926 Yeah, the only one out of 7, and Maru almost took it despite being way behind in base count. Meanwhile 3 of Maru games against Reynor are lategame and he won all 3.
Yet another Zerg win. At least it wasn't a ZvZ final again. I guess they didn't want to make it too obvious that it's almost impossible for the other races to win, and the rest of the Zergs had a weekend off. The last 12 months: 12 tournaments to Zerg, 5 Terran, 1 Protoss. And people wonder why they are haemorrhaging players and viewers.
Game 3 was so tense. Feel bad for Dark losing that game when he played a beautiful game up until the end. He just needed to live and he would have out sustained him once he had him below 30 workers, but he continued to throw his bane/ling for more workers.
Edit: What a finish.
Yea I think he didnt realize he wouldnt survive the push without them, had he kept them at home hed have likely won or held and won later
Amazing!!!
But would have loved to hear the players reaction.
My two Favorites- Zerg Monster vs Terran God, gotta love it.
Dark played so well in game 7. He got completely blindsided by the proxy. Doesn't even attempt to save the hatch, which I think is exactly what Maru wanted him to do. All he really lost here was 350 minerals, and sure the expo was a bit delayed, but Maru had to delay his own to do that push. It looked like he quickly calculated exactly where Maru would have to be at, and managed to keep droning through the pressure while making the exact right number of lings and not even throwing down a spine. Then followed it up with an unorthodox timing push that was entirely dependent on the circumstances of this one game. That calm composure is what makes champions kiddos. Or so I imagine from watching the titans.
Maru ❤️👌🏼
Incredible
I'd like to give a shout out to all those banelings that gave their lives, you are not forgotten....
How many times will Maru lose all his workers to ling/bane run-bys before he finally incorporates defense on his mineral lines?
You had to cut off his winning interview?? Really?!
i love the excitment on Maru's face :)
zerg op
Game 3 was incredible
zerg wins another major tournament, shocker
Hey don’t spoil it
Why is Stacraft's soundtrack so loud???
its 2023 and People still don't know how to process videos with commentary to CZcams..... watching on 5673% Volume
Remember when the audience area used to be thronged with people, the place used to be buzzing. Sad to see the interest decline
the comebacks got me worried whew
Serrals fans be like. "This tournament doesn't count"
The sharpest arrow vs the hardest shield!
Zerg is op, good game to both of players
Thanks for the patch, Blizzard.
The world just feels better when Dark triumphs over Maru.
We need to have a serious discussion of the greatest Zergs. Life, JaeDong, and then who?
Serral ?
Rogue?
Best moment was when the ultralisk started attacking the rocks
amazing series.
Zerg is over powered
Zergcraft forever and ever since WOL
Much love your way nood
I wad rooting for Maru so much but I'm not even mad that he lost. What an amazing series. Truly deserve to be the final series for the championship. Well played Dark! 👏🏻👏🏻
Deserved victory with how dark has been playing. Amazing eco dmg (maybe a bit too much in that one game). Maru always looked so all in because his scv count was always so decimated. Fantastic final :)
Maru looks younger every year :)
great finals!
very entertaining series with 2 of the best sc2 players in the world
Not gna lie Maru seriously looking sour these days. Well played Dark what a Beast.
I'd look sour if you're playing a 3 race game and one race has 12 wins compared to only 6 for the other 2 races in the last year. No different to previous years. Whats the point of fighting an uphill battle, may as well just go into military service than wait for a patch that never comes. The next patch will be more nerfs to T & P because Maru dared to get 3 games back and a Protoss dared to get into the semi finals. We all know it should be ZvZ semi finals and finals.
@@bonjovi7399 funny how he doesnt also just switch to zerg then....
@@brendonnel6631 Because then he would have to learn to play ZvZ and ZvP at the level of guys like Rogue, Dark, Serral and Reynor. Of course he is not gonna switch regardless of how he feels switching would not work lol
wow....what a match~~classic!
love how casters usually don't get what's happening^^
Дарк не обманул! Кравчег! =)
So are Korean players and international (NA/EU) players all playing together now in global tournaments, rather than South Koreans just playing in GSL, and EU/NA in their own tourneys? I haven't followed the competitive sc2 scene for more than a decade.
Does anyone know where we can get the post-game interview?
I didn't even realise this was happeningt, where are the big events now! I miss them!
they are publicised in advance
this was a big event. i think if you regularly read tl, you can know when all of the tourneys are coming up
Unlike his match vs Reynor, you know Maru is super serious vs Dark because he is moving his head left and right..
It's funny to watch Maru laugh at losing the first round. When I first started watching his matches, he was so young he would cry when he lost
luckily terran still can build the supply depot by airpods which makes them build instantly so losing a bit of those are not a big deal
soooo good
(game1) 0:01 (game2) 10:15 (game3) 21:16 (game4) 44:04
56:16 corpse flying straight up
Awesome games!!
awesome
Why is so bad picture quality?
what a good game by Maru
what's the point of putting the countdown timer for upgrade at the right side?
is it just me? or anyone else think this too? Casters seem so biased against zerg. this whole tournament is how well the Terrans are doing, how the Zerg player just can't do enough. even the second to last casting game THIS IS MARU!!!! all that hype. then when announcing the Zerg play "it is Dark".
Oh, Another Zerg victory? Who would have predicted it 🤷🏻♂️
Makes me miss the days I had a pc lol
Maru showed zero expression or emotion after game 7 loss, can you imagine if it was Creator? they'd need new keyboard, mouse, headset, monitor and probably new tables too.
Maru is a bot. Comfirmed.
This comment spoiled the result at 5 seconds into the video. Thx
@@huba7368 Tip: Don't look at the comments before watching the game
@@paulverse4587 Never watched on mobile where CZcams likes to show you a single comment as you are watching?
I don't think Creator would react that way if he played well all the way up to the finals.
The switched colors make me unecessarily mad :D
Nice map with jungle!
Very epic
10:03 "translating their korean into chi----- " lmao
WHy no build his ego chamber in one of his deeper protected bases? I get if you use buildings partly for blocking space, but that seems like an odd choice, no?
Zerg still winning everything rip
It's been the same since they started using infestor in WoL. RIP zerg wins and wins and wins
Watch GSL - Protoss is ruling in the current Hero meta
Havent seen the last game yet, but as I can see the marine is OP as a tier 1 unit. Roaches and lings melt like butter on a hot knife. Hope that game 7 will be as good, but I cheer for Dark. Go Dark!
g1 close to my preferred style zvt
slow lings(!), fast banes, focus on 1/1 or 2/2 upgrades, then into infestor, viper
slow lings do much better to shepherd fast banes into good targets IMO
No APM?