BATTLE! Seicento vs Matiz, with Miller Corner
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2019
- Collaboration time! HubNut and Miller Corner come together to work out which is the best Italian-styled city car. Giugiaro's take on what a 1990s small Fiat should look like, or Fiat's own! (Sorry for the delay with going live!)
In this video, I take Joe's 2003 Fiat Seicento Sporting for a spin. Can it lure me away from my blue Daewoo? Check out Joe's channel, as he had a drive of Myrtle to see if Korean magic could tempt him! • The SECRET SEICENTO! H...
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In 1992, Giugiaro unveiled the Lucciola prototype as his own take on what a small Fiat would look like. Fiat had just introduced the Cinquecento (500) by that stage, and declined to take the design on board - instead adding blobbiness to the design to create the Seicento (600). Daewoo took interest and bought the Giugiaro design to create the Matiz. Under the skin, the Matiz is closer to a Suzuki Alto, so how do this pair stack up?
#Collaboration #TinyCars #Battle - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Pretty sure that steering wheel was included with Mario Kart Wii.
Nimmo that's hilarious
"Too much lumbar support. I'm not going to like this." HubNut 2019.
'The Matiz turns like a hippo in a wheelbarrow.' Turns bloody sharp too as I have found out whilst learning to drive in one...
Hippos have tusks?
@@69Phuket Their (few) teeth can cause a lot of damage...
Matiz is better
This car swap and two separate reviews is brilliant! Enjoyed it immensely. I’d not seen young Joe’s blog before (thanks for the link) two enthusiastic reviewers who love their cars. Joe is like Ian after 10 cups of coffee!
Kevin Tynan I'll take that! 😁
After ten cups of coffee I am shitting, I'm sure you mean something different though ...😂
'Mods', a word you don't hear much on Hubnut, next real road test, J3ese's 'EP3'. that Escort looks gorgeous.
Much prefer the Matiz. That young Miller fellar is far too energetic, was exhausted just watching his Matiz review, give me super relaxed, laid-back Mr Hubnut review everytime!
Yes, he reminded me of a character straight out of "The Inbetweeners"
Anytime a 1.2 liter is an upgrade to a car, you better get ready for a Hubnut review. I'm still loving Myrtle as it's on the Hubnut fleet. Myrtle for the win! 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗
The sensation of speed is so often more fun than actual speed!
"Yeah, nice try in your focus with a blowing exhaust... but it's no match for me in my Seicento!" - My favourite quote from yourself! lol
Fiat for the win!
Fiats make the best little cars ever! I drove a yellow Cinq sporting my brother had as a courtesy car, the first fwd car I had ever enjoyed driving (in fact i ended up buying a Punto afterwards (55hp sx no one ever told it how slow it was) Also had a yellow 1.9 jtd Stilo in yellow-best car i ever owned (not my favourite mind, but the best by miles)
Finally a Fiat!
I loved it!
Such a shame we haven't had those small things here in Brazil.
Ok. Seicento isn't the best regarding Fiat design, but it's nice. The Cinquecento indeed had a lot more personality (whether we can say that about a car, but anyway)!
Lovely to see how such a small and weird little thing brought smiles to you. I think that's what cars were supposed to be. Now we face this disease called SUVs, cars are getting boring and boring.
I guess I'll keep my 500 and my Punto Cabrio for a long time!
From a Fiat enthusiast, thank you so much Ian!
I think it's time for you to consider a Fiat for the fleet.
Cheers!
Absolutely agree! It is a Grin inducing car, I had a standard 1.1 SX and I loved it, a lot of fun to drive, and full of cheeky character.
Interesting comparison and thanks for introducing Miller Corner. The steering wheel in the Fiat makes me think of my Logitech G28 gaming wheel. Which probably isn't much smaller than that in my Mega Multitruck. :-)
Wonferful test drive Ian and nicely put together Car Joe 👍
Great video and thanks for giving space to the guy on the bike. 🙂
Lol i had a 899cc seicento back in the day. Was so much fun to sling around corners & she even ate a renault 5 turbo for breakfast 🤣🤣 i still prefer my Slow Poke Matiz. More character & just rediculous. Wish us luck, monday is MOT day 😬😬😬
Good luck from a cinquecento owner. The test is always slightly worrying.
@@terryatkinson3182 cheers bud. Couple of advisories last year, brake pipes as usual & a sil or two may need doing too, but we'll see... 😬
Well done Ian, the entire FIAT history complete over the 500 and 600. I have done a lot of these FIATs in my mechanic time. Beautiful Escort MK3 in the background, I also had 1.
Takes me back to my ax gt big exhaust sounded like a stung bee fun times 👍
my mate had a ax gti about 15 years ago, i could hear him coming from miles away with his cherry bomb lol
I went to Le Mans in my mate's AX GT … fun car.
Loved that little Fiat - OK I love my Moggy Minor but my other car is a very early modded feisty looking Yaris. In my 70's, but love 'pocket rockets'.
I love tha yaris, I had the sr model on an xreg plate. That thing never broke down and had 154k on clock, unfortunately everything just worn around it, and I ended up bottoming it out, causing hundred of pounds of damage to the cat and exhaust system in other areas. The yaris 1.3 is pretty fast
Having subbed to Joe (after this vid) and exhausted his whole back catalogue I can declare I love Sciecento's. New shell has a Brummie plate. I love is passio and all the mods he did. And to be fair he loved Myrtle as much too.. Many smile were had in this escapade! ;) Now I want a Matiz and a yellow Fiat thing with a name google can't compute. Nice one Ian..
That car needs a turbo and a squirrel chomping waste gate sound.
John Matthews 😉
"Handles like a hippo in a wheelbarrow" - I'm nicking that one Ian - cheers
In my part of the country, we say: 'Handles like a sack o' coal on a stick.'
Here from Miller Corner and just subscribed 👌🏻 great video and like the honesty! 😅
Have been camping in France with a friend in a Seicento, a very likeable little car.
Actually it was a tent but a Seicento we drove in.
I had a Scicento a couple of year ago.To be fair it wasnt a bad little car.I didnt think there was not much room for shopping !
When i drove it, i always had to wear lite shoes.....Bloody imposible to drive with a dirty great pair of boots on :)
But on the whole not a bad little motor. !
GROUP 13 Know exactly what you mean; had the same issue with mine 😉👍
Glad you got to test one, stock may have been better, but a least you got the spirit of the car, happy days :)
I've always quite liked the looks of those, nearly had one for my first car. That makes quite a nice noise... modify the City Rover! I'm sure that would be a first and I would love to see it :D
Yep I preferred the cinquecento too. I had an uno with a fire engine, still one of my favourite ever cars, great fun to drive, I neglected it terribly and it just kept on going!
Greedy me has 2cinquecentos now, an oldschool 899s and a sporting 1108 fire engined. Love them and won't part with either.
Absolutely mirror your thoughts on the Cinquecento vs Seicento styling. Never liked the Seicento and still don’t, the beautifully simplistic design of the Cinquecento was far easier on the eye and the Sporting version especially looked rather good.
And the Cinquecento was a lot more fun to drive and felt far more sturdy than the Seicento
Reminds me of my old Toyota Yaris (2000) 1.3 Vvti, that was an absolute blast to drive, no real grunt but on twisty roads it was guaranteed to put a smile on my face.
I always thought these little Fiats looked good, even Michael Schumacher put his name on one. Although in a safety situation I think Myrtle would win as if I can remember the Fiat only got a 2 star Euro NCAP crash test score whereas the Daewoo I think got three due to the dual airbags.
The original Cinquecento was purer and better looking but the Seicento was much better crash-wise, so a valid redesign overall.....
Change the seats and steering wheel to proper Fiat items Joe !
What an absolute hoot!! Enjoyed watching that bit of hooning :)
That looks great fun. Reminds me a little of my little Abarth. Have a huge smile on my face driving him about. 😊
Great video Ian! Was very excited to see my two favorite channels doing a collab! Personally I think I'd take the Super Seicento (as Joe has named it) over Myrtle, but that's because I've always been a FIAT fan...not to say I don't like the Matiz! :) Daewoo is long gone here in North America...as in there are NONE left on the roads. We never had many of their cars here....the Nubira, the Lanos, the Leganza....we never got the Matiz though!
LOVE both videos though, kudos and great work to the two of you. Glad to see you both enjoyed each others little rides...your smiles are infectious! :D
Another great road test! Looks like the Seicento (w/ those mods) would be great fun on an old-fashioned timed road rallye! Rear end styling slightly reminiscent of a 1990 Daihatsu Charade...
You've enjoyed that way more than you thought you would,could tell you were smiling all the way through,your filming is better as well
Love the video Ian glad you guys got to meet in the end
I own a 1998 Seicento, just did a 8700 km road trip to Gibraltar and back this summer. 100% reliable car and extremely fuel efficient.
I can already tell this is going to be good!
So can I :)
I wish the ceicento was stock though. But well, you can't have everything.
Great review. It just shows you don't need a super car and massive amounts of money to have fun.
I think you need to be broke and have an old city car for proper fun. In a Ferrari Aventador or a Lamborghini 458, you couldn't use all the power, you'd probably kill yourself in it, and you'd be stressing about other people damaging it all the time. With a Matiz, you've got that wonderful soundtrack and you can hoon around in it without worrying about speed cameras. Plus nobody will pour paint stripper on it. Or tap you up for a loan.
Ian is so class. turns out my 91 yr old grandfather loves his journalism too as he is a jag classic fanatic. Found an issue in his bathroom opened on an article Ian wrote. Clearly a man of great taste my grandad exclaimed, "correct" i replied lol
Haha, it sounds absolutely furious! Love it. Now i want one.
Chuffed to see my Wife's old V8 Disco in the background, BYJ lives!
Video to come on that...
@@HubNut We will look forward to that, as she misses that old tub! Cant forget the V8 burble!
Yup, can't get the image of a hippo in a wheelbarrow out of my head! Great review Ian, what a punchy little car. Many thanks.
I used to have a Cinquecento Sporting. It was red but faded to pink! Despite frequent breakdowns it was one of the most fun cars I've driven. Watching this video makes me want to find another!
Novitec used to have a turbo kit for the Fiat's 1.1 engine so it got around 100 hp to play with
Surprised he didn't put Fiat's own two-pot turbo in there.
d2factotum some have tried! Too tall unfortunately and similar power is easier to achieve elsewhere
a very rather splendid video and collaboration
Ian grips an agreeable knob and I miss an firm and bouncy ride in a car now you come to mention it... as long as we are stationary at the time! Memories. Really enjoyed this edition! Good fun!
I had and loved the cinquecento. Agree the upgrade not as individual
Battle? Its going to be an all out war! There will carnage on the streets! Surely this vid needs to be age rated? mental
What a awesome video this was,car does sound nice once you give it the beans,I never thought a Punto would fit in to be honest,I will watch Miller Corner now to see how Myrtle the Matiz performed.some mods now have to be done to Myrtle to get more power.
Definitely Seicento. I had a Seicento Sporting in Red. Loved it. Had it for nearly 5 years and never let me down.
Great holiday cars both of them - all you need is a Greek island to hoon around on !
I had a 94 M reg base spec Fiat Cinquecento with the 899cc engine as my first car and it was great fun to drive. I traded it in for a brand new Seicento 1.1 in base spec and it was no fun at all to drive. It was soon traded in for a Punto 1.2 Active Sport.
Still reckon the Seicento's better. 😉
Jokes aside, awesome pair of cars, here's to future collaboration!
Yes, was good fun!
I have a Seicento Sporting for 1999.. Same yellow color.. Lot of fun to drive :-)
Miller and Hubnut - brilliant.
I have a Siecento sx - used everyday and I love it - like driving a go-cart.
Joe has spent a lot of time and effort into this car.
Shout out to Steph too of 'I drive a classic' x
Hugely enjoyable! My takeaway from this is that mods can't turn a car into something it isn't, but they could turn it into the car it could be e.g. better sounding, sharper handling, rectifying cost-cutting when manufactured.
My 55 mk1 1. 1 Punto in standard form sounds similar and never fails to make me grin.
Yes that's a good tip, always imagine someone coming the other way is driving just like you 😁
I used to own a Cinquecento sporting in black with red trim. I brought it brand new in 1996 & I loved it. I remember Jeremy Clarkson did a test drive of it & he liked it so 👍. I wish I still had it because it was so much fun to drive.
I had a 2002 Fiat Seicento SX and a major problem with them is the cable operated clutch. These are prone to regularly snapping where they connect to a cam near the bulkhead via a set of rods on the right hand drive models.
It's good you're working with other people now and then. Joe obviously loves his car, but perhaps they're not everyone's cup of tea (especially with that catastrophic triangle of doom!) But there you go, it's fun (except when you have to wash/wipe the windscreen!) 👍🏻
love the video, totally agree the cinquecento was so much better looking than the Seicento but as the years go by you look back and realise they are both nice looking cars.
A nice friendly battle. Cinquecento/Seicento Sportings are becoming quite popular on the hillclimb scene as they are light and nimble.
I can’t quite believe that people are watching this drivel...and I’ve become one of them!!! These are the most dreadful cars in history, truly horrific examples of povopack motoring, and yet I keep on clicking on these damned videos. It’s because I’m absolutely amazed that you, Mr Hub Nut, get so enthusiastic about them: and it’s real enthusiasm, you can hear it in your voice!!! I think you’d still drive these cars if there was no CZcams!
Looked like you where enjoying yourself. Another good video 👍👍
I've never ever liked mods either, but this does look like a lot of fun. I will always be a purist, though. Despite the limitations. The MKIII melted my heart a little bit. Looking forward to that review.
In 1997 I had a Cinquecento Sporting on a cheap contract hire. It was the most fun I've had driving a car. Revvy engine and it felt like I was always travelling far faster than I actually was. They weren't built to last though. After 1 year and 24k miles hooning around south London it was knackered.
Fiat pinto 1.2 in the sporting was 75bhp if I remember correctly but In a small well handling light car, it could be fun and economical.
Its a bangernomics sports car!
One knows one's become an anorak of the rare but unexceptional when one looks forward to a video of an early unmodified mk3 Ford Escort in burnt orange, and actually wouldn't mind one.
The older cars were so much better than the modern rubbish, its no wonder old standard cars are inspiring
I was thinking that too. I always liked the mk3 Escorts the best. Never owned one, but I did drive one for a few days back in the day. Came in as a part ex, and I used it to go home in purely because it had half a tank of fuel. I discovered that I really liked it and very nearly bought it, but someone beat me to it, only to give it to his son who promptly turned it over showing off to his mates. Shameful waste of a good car. Pity you can't buy them for £300 anymore, which is what that one cost in the early 2000s.
Hmmm while they looked the part back in the day and the Sundym[?] glass in my Ghia was very nice; what was wrong with them? Well loads [I owned two, a 1.3L + 1.6 Ghia] the battery tray rot's out likely to drop onto front passengers feet; horrible carb, rough torqueless engine miss matched to the gearbox. Worst of all for a Ford they don't handle! Not nice to drive in a motorway traffic jam. They rust.
I have never seen a modified matiz I think you should do it 😊 it would be so cool and different to see 👍
When I saw Miller Corner in the title I had visions of Yoghurt-based shenanigans.
That Fiat reminds me of my 1994 Suzuki Swift GTi that I modified. Unfortunately it met it's demise early this year. Good times indeed.
A 94 suzuki gti is in a different league performance wise. Seicento being 1.2 swapped and all.
If you want to drive something nuts, try a 2008ish panda 1.4 16v on a wet road.
@@nielsdebakker3283 Unfortunately we don't get those here in the US. i'm thinking of a Fiat 500 Abarth. An older one.
Fabtastic, as ever. Thanks.
Lovely Jubbly, never mind fun to drive, it is fun to watch Mr HubNut. I doubt it would last in a Welsh winter up and down the lanes where you live, it would probably disintegrate into a rusty heap.
Great fun as always. Now then Ian what about these Matiz mods?
I personally preferred the Sei over the cinq and that one is brilliant! I love it! Alas, my 6ft 19st frame squashed into a seicento would be more comedy that that steering wheel😂😢!
Great video👍👍👍
This video is an absolute piece of entertainment i laughed good. And your laugh is hilarious
Myrtle wins!
Well done HubNut, terrific pair of videos.
Nearly bought a new Cinq Sporting as our local Fiat dealer was lobbing them out cheap when the Siecento was due out...1998 from mrmory? Plumped for a 2nd hand Citroen AXGT instead as it meant no HP. Also huge fun in the same vein. Would have either for a weekend toy now, but like you, my ageing chassis would struggle. Joe's channel is brill btw.
‘Feels like a child’s activity centre’
Perfect description
I absolutely love it. Getting one. Next year. #notetoself
Joes just got a new subscribe .. Agree that the cinquecento was better looking . but both vids well worth watching 👍
Great Video, Did you any of the Whirlpool Factory fire on Thursday.
myrtle for the win.. its not a fair compairison, because of all the things done with the fiat.
Tom vd Veen ...but solely as an value judgement, Sir?
A chuckling chuck able bumper car
when are we going to see the modding myrtle video then?
Oh no! Not HubNut turning into pimp my Matiz. What a neat little car love it 👍
My mom drove a 128 Special in 1978 and with 55hp from 1115cc we chased the VW Polos even the early MkII GTs with 60 hp in our home area around Wolfsburg :)
The old boxy Cinquecento Sporting (in yellow of course) was also one of my attainable dream cars back in the early 90s. From what I heard since then about their reliability, I'm not so sure any more, but I still like their looks. The Seicento was a step back design-wise IMO.
those little roads look ridiculously fun
Which 1.2 was it fitted with? The 8v or the 16v? (60hp vs 85, as I recall)
Both cars was produced in Poland
I have owned 2 of these. Great fun for a bald old man in the Peak District!
My first car was a seicento the one redeeming factor loads of fun under the speed limit dont get me wrong I love properly fast cars but being able to hoon whilst still keeping my licence is more fun
Exactly why I like unpowerful cars.
It's a one point two!!!!!!!!!!
Can. You. Feel. The. POWER.
Rarely do I comment before watching the whole video Ian.....but in this case the Matiz wins hands down.
I will hasten to add, these 2 have been tested to destruction.....at field bangers. Yes (sigh) I know you're not a fan of bangers, BUT field bangers is something else. You just wear a crash helmet.....that's it. Anyway the Fiat broke in the first race. The Matiz raced all day and almost won the DD.
I got a lift to and from work in a Seicento, surpised me too, I went from a pre-conceived notion of they're crap to I was wrong this is gutless car fun. Its great fun thrashing something with no power.
Great fun! But we have to agree with your preference. We drive the 4-cylinder Matiz, with the Chevy badge on it, and it's a superb little runabout. Midlands to Scotland or Wales is a decent experience, too. The extra cylinder gives it the necessary oomph on steeper hills, and we still better 60 mpg on runs, without really trying, unless you give it full beans. It drives rather like a 998cc Mini (the real one, not the fakes which we see today), but with much less engine noise. The downside is that the 750 had £30 annual Road Tax, but the 1000 cost £145+ at the time of purchase. Very unfair, for the sake of only 16 more horses under the bonnet.