The Cure: The Making Of The Goth Rock Legends (Full Documentary) | Amplified
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- The Cure: Out of the Woods is an unauthorized look at the goth rock legends the Cure. The film intercuts archival footage along with interviews given by many individuals who worked with the band throughout their lengthy career. This release is unauthorized, meaning there is no original music from the band in the film.
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I'm 47 now, I started listening to The Cure when I was 11 y.o. and never stopped since. They have been the soundtrack of my life, I'm so grateful to Robert Smith for what he has done and the emotions he and his band were able to transmit to his audience myself included.
I'm your age, and I had the coolest babysitter in the world who introduced me at 9 years old...but much like you, I didn't really start listening to them them until about 10 or 11. I remember getting The Top and Faith on vinyl for Christmas and I wore out 2 Standing On a Beach cassettes in a year. Then Kiss Me happened. It was life changing. That's when the obsession started...lol.
All of my middle school and HS friends call me "the one who introduced me to The Cure".
@@veloraloves great story! I really think that Cure fans are the most sensitive and deep people on this planet. :)
I'm 47 too and I remember going to school listening to Faith in my walkman in 89, and almost half the school dressed in black so many beautiful goth girls with long black hair and fringe 😍.
Loved those days and Faith is still my perfect Cure's album.
Clever chaps! Living in Australia I didn’t wise up until I was 15. Beautiful music❤️
@greycats99 the same 🖤
This documentary's soundtrack contains such sound alike hits as "Almost close to me" and "Friday I could be in love"...
21:10 “Within Reasonable Proximity to Me”
"Amorous Cats"
"Hate Cats"
"Into a Henge"
'A Florist'
I had the privilege of seeing The Cure in Sydney in 1993. They played for a bit over 3 hours, and finished with ‘Just Like Heaven’ and closed with, of course, ‘A Forest’, which went for over 10 minutes. One of the best concerts I’ve been to - absolutely fantastic from beginning to end.
Thanks Rob, Simon, Porl et al, magnificent stuff.
I cannot think of a worse idea than doing a documentary about a band without any actual music from the band in the documentary. Imagine if I did a documentary about the artwork of Leonardo but didn't include any of his pictures at all....
Same, total snoozefest...
Imagine that, a so called documentary about the Cure without any Cure. I totally agree. Cheers.
Do you really think you are just so smart that your take was completely original and it just never occurred to anyone to put the bands music in the doc? No fucking shit it would be best if they included their music in it, but if they didn't it's because they couldn't.
My thoughts exactly. I’m here in the comments for this reason, to see if I should bother watching any further, or look for a better doc with actual music from The Cure.
CZcams would destroy this video if they used The Cure songs
Going through moodswings personally, I've used music to get me through life. Right now, rediscovering my love of The Cure has been a great boost. The uptempo tracks are cool, while the atmospheric and moody sounds are the best at describing and capturing are state of mind much like some of my Classical faves do. This documentary for me as a musicologist and musician is fantastic! Thank you!
Saw them live 2 days ago and I can’t listen to any of their songs without crying now. It’s left me so emotional seeing Rob struggling to leave the stage… and his sweet smile.
I love the venues chosen for the interviews. A studio, an upscale social club, a pub basement. Very grounded in England. It makes the interviewees seem more real, not just a scripted interview, but their real opinions. Documentary makers can learn from this.
Amplified 💜
I have been a Cure fan since I was 16, and I am 55. We flew from Indiana to Dallas to see them in concert, bucket list. It was the best concert ever
The Cure was my beloved in highschool, when I didn't belong with anyone in 1989 I felt I felt love from The Cure
As someone who graduated hs in ‘90, I can relate to this too much.
John Robb has the cutest mannerism. When he comes to the end of whatever he is saying....he puts his lips together and gives this look that I find absolutely adorable. Anybody else notice that?
I just love listening to people talk about Robert Smith. 🖤 🖤 🖤 💋 💋 💋
I’ve seen them 4 times now. Starting in 1992 and most recently a couple years ago. They’ve never ceased to deliver an amazing show!
I feel Michael Dempsey doesn't get enough mention. He was the bass player when Chris Parry got interested, and the Cure owe their success to Chris Parry getting interested. Also, their first album is one of their best. And Jumping Someone Else's Train is one of their best singles, mostly because of the bassline. I feel like he helped define their bass-forward sound, and Simon was smart enough to follow his lead.
Very unpopular opinion incoming but the top echelon of bass lines come from 3 albums Simon had nothing to do with, even though Simon is fantastic.
1. The Top
2. Three Imaginary Boys/Boys Don't Cry
3. Japanese Whispers
@@cuttotheheart that's because smith is more of a bass player himself - many of his solos are percussive bass-lines played one octave higher
@cuttotheheart
Was Phil Thornalley the bass player in those albums, right (
Favorite Cure songs in no preticular order.
1. Boys don't cry
2. Grinding halt
3. Fire in Cairo
4. Killing an arab
5. M
6. A forest
7. Jumping someone else's train
8. Just like heaven
9. Play for today
10. 10:15 Saturday night
My top 10 fav songs (as well as their origin) by THE CURE in no particular order:
1. 10: 15 Saturday Night (Three Imaginary Boys)
2. Kyoto Song (The Head On The Door)
3. Burn (THE CROW ost)
4. Sinking (The Head On The Door)
5. A Forest (Seventeen Seconds)
6. Fear Of Ghosts (Love Song 12" [b-side])
7. Just Like Heaven (Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me)
8. Siamese Twins (Pornography)
9. Disintegration (Disintegration)
10. The Exploding Boy (In Between Days 7" [b-side])
Holy hour is right up there for me
@@hitchhikingdagalaxy I just heard that track just now (opener for the "Faith" album) and yea, it's definitely a contender!
Good list. I especially concur with A Forest and The Exploding Boy. Can't remember Fear of Ghosts but I had that single and I remember liking that song...gonna have to go look that up and knock the dust off!
1. Untitled (Disintegration)
2. Scared as You (Friday I'm in Love b side)
3. A Letter to Elise (Wish)
4. Lament (Japanese Whispers)
5. One More Time (Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me)
6. All Cats are Grey (Faith)
7. Plainsong (Disintegration)
8. Trust (Wish)
9. Disintegration (Disintegration)
10. Just One Kiss (Japanese Whispers)
Burn is underated
"Simon rejoined on bass." This really does Simon a disservice. Robert refers to him as his song writing partner. That's significantly more important than just who plays bass.
Every musician has an input, no guitarist/singer tell drummer how to play as they don't have a clue.
@@PJPsounds tolhurst basically didn't contribute anything musically after the intermediate pop singles between pornography and the top - the top is basically a smith solo album
What a classic, timeless, band !!
Thank you for you detailed documentaries, I understand more about music and what makes it , when I see well researched films like this. I understand their music more now. Well Done, unfortunate you couldn't include some of their signature pieces and what inspired them to create them. Cheers, Dk
This documentary has been released under so many names now! I think I first purchased it as 'Out of the Woods' in 2005!
and it got so many facts wrong
Thankfully, I got to see the Cure before they became a hugely popular band. Seeing them at what was Poole Arts Centre on the Head On The Door Tour, was brilliant, in that it was relatively small crowd of around 2,500 tops. Fans could get right up to the edge of the stage, so you were just feet away from Smithy & Co.
Good year that was (1986) as The Cult on the 'Love Tour' along with Siouxsie & The Banshees doing the 'Tinderbox Tour, all appeared at Poole Arts Centre. Siouxsie still had her cast on her leg, performing sat on a stool, accompanied by dancing skeletons & a couple of weird marionettes! Must admit, JVC on guitar was excellent, although not quite up to John McGeoch's standard.
Oh to be whisked back in time to live that year again, not just for the bands but the fun aspect!
I was at the gig in Aberdeen when the Banshees guitarist and drummer ran off. The Cure were great....they played their set then as I remember Lol and Robert played a very long version of the Lords Prayer with Siouxie and Steve. Plus we got our tickets refunded.......I was sixteen.
I remember seeing The Cure support Souxie and The Banshees in 79 and they stood out not only for their music but also because Robert Smith (without makeup) stood almost stock still whilst a single pin spot light swept behind him..they were brilliant and 10.15 really was superb...then Smith gets up and plays with The Banshees..I never knew why until I watched this documentary. Btw my favourite Cure is Three Imaginary Boys album..I know it gets knocked a lot and even in this documentary..but it was a standout original sound..
same
Damn right.?
Can't wait to watch this tonight. I love John Robb!
Thank you for this!
Man I love the cure when they drop a new album you know they will tire again and I’m going to be ready for that tour.
There were 2 albums, Staring at the Sea" and "Standing on the beach" which is where I found my fav "IIm Cold"
I definitely recommend watching lots of documentaries of these bands
Nice "Boys Don't Cry" sound-a-like music for the intro! :) Those things always make me chuckle.
I think Bauhaus are also a contender for starting Goth.........
@@canadariots1139 They had a hand in it, yes, but I don't think it was any one band. Bauhaus, Banshees, Cure, JD.........even The Damned........they all had some influence on that movement.
@@davidwhite4874 Vanian was the first!
@@linnet12dd Nico was probably first, if you want to split hairs.
In 1969 VanDerGraffGenerator did a song called White Hammer - about the Spanish Inquisition . It’s not as snappy as Double Dare but when the song grinds to a halt then sparks up with pure darkness and intent for a big black finale , I can’t help believe this was at least the birth of ProgGoth or GothProg a decade before mr Murphy & co. 🐢🏴❤️I I think JohnLydon championed its writer Peter Hammill during his Capital Radio fave song chart much to the annoyance of Malcolm the Manager.
@@newforestpixie5297 I see what you mean about the end of White Hammer being a little reminiscent of Double Dare, Bit of a stretch to say it was the progenitor of Goth, though! If you want to go back that far back, then I suppose Black Sabbath would be more likely to be included.
A documentary about The Cure without The Cure music? Realy?
probably trying to avoid copyright strikes or whatever
A Great band to work with. I worked on "Cure in Orànge ". One of my best ever gigs!
Wow! Tell us more!
1:01:54 we’ll all be at the nursing home singing old cure songs and Robert Smith will come in and sing a new one ♥️
I sure hope so! 😊
Right. A song off the album they plan on releasing in 2050.
The album “ The Cure “ is very good . The angry song “Us or Them “ is very angry indeed. I saw them at Poole Arts Centre in 87 . The floor literally bounced during one of their happy songs . Fantastic . The 2 newest albums by The Cure & the final albums from Motörhead & Rush are as good as anything they produced in my world at least ❤️🏴🐢😁
Us or Them is fucking Awesome . Thank You Robert & Co. 🏴❤️
Nice one what a life what a dream what great vibes thank you Cure 🍻
I am still in the process of discovering The Cure at the age of 62! NONE of their songs are ghoulish as the narrator says. I have found most of their songs to be uplifting and about love. I can only guess that Robert's thoughts when writing these songs are about his wife. I am also envious that they have been married for over 35 years. I also look very forward to catching Robert and the guys in concert!
Around 23 minutes into this documentary there was a mention of how David Bowie's recording Diamond Dogs was the earliest and first real Gothic recording. I personally always thought that "Tales of Mystery and Imagination" by The Alan Parsons Project was one of the first innovative Gothic Genre style recording.
I agree with you “ Tales” is brilliant
i would say many of the Doors songs could be considered proto-goth
I always thought it was criminal that no filmmaker utilized “Push” in the beginning credits of teen comedy. A song that for me brings about images of a teen in love walking about school
There is only one. No one is like Robert Smith, and no band is like The Cure.
Love the part about being angry about Thatcher.
I love how many artists openly despised her.
I love how many artists openly despised her.
throughly enjoyed.!
forever a fan
✌🏻🇦🇺☺️😊😃
Saw them at Roskilde 95, remember a lot of tears of joy, one of the best live experiences of my life, only topped by Pink Floyd and U2.
Love their music. They are a legend.
Wish tour 1992 London Olympia, cracking night 🌃
It's odd to watch an hour long discussion of a band without so much as a lick of its original music--just the occasional royalty-free simu-snoodlets. I suppose the producers either couldn't or wouldn't pony up the fees or the band or its agents stymied or stonewalled any association with this project. Sorry, but I'm tapping out after 43 minutes of blue balls.
@@drott150 I dunno...I usually enjoy these "Amplified" productions well enough. I can only presume something legal or just plain odd is in play here. Not that the two are mutually exclusive.
Wait for the new Tim Pope doc. Hopefully out soon!!!
I agree entirely - you wanna hear something at least of the band that's the reason you're watching this doc. A smattering of bars intermittently through it would have sufficed. But no...
youtube is full of documentaries of the cure with clips of concerts, rehearsals and MTV videos... at least this is "explained" and "witnessed". I very much appreciated Severin
@@BilgemasterBill - Yea....obviously Amplified did NOT get the rights to the original songs, or couldn't afford the rights. You'll never hear a Jimi Hendrix documentary with any of his music because the estate never gives out the rights.
This channel has is NO GOOD for my natural insomnia. 😎😁💯
I could watch this for WEEKS on end!
19:39 +1 A Forest is the quintessential Cure song.
What the fuck is with the royalty free music 😂 😂 😂
the like cats
lmfao I've watched the whole thing and I'm afraid I'm going to have some of it stuck in my head at work tomorrow.
THANKS 🌞
Legends.
Cure concert tomorrow! I’m so excited I feel nauseous
Goth?? Robert Smith told Rolling Stone in 2019: "When people say it to me, you’re goth, I say you either have never heard us play or you have no idea what goth is. One of those two has to be true because we’re not a goth band … It’s like we passed through that phase and I did a few things that sounded like we were a part of it, and then we moved on to something else."
The bass lines are a really big part of their sound, too.
Robert and Simon had a fist fight? it is really difficult to picture Robert throwing down with someone and frankly Simon like he would have dominated that particular fight.
also the blatant sound alike copyright free music they use in these docs cracks me up.
it is even documented on wikipedia that Robert and Simon had a fist fight in a night club
Don't be surprised what a couple of young drunk blokes can get up to.
@@shariwelch8760 not only drunk blokes but a lot (really a lot) of coke, lsd and opium thrown into the mix
Good stuff
39:17 "The band wore lipstick around their mouths and eyes." Eyes?
Pornography period they did this czcams.com/video/yEH5jReEkSk/video.html&ab_channel=TheCureVEVO
Who thought it was good idea to make a music documentary without any of the music?
I don't know why nobody ever remarks on the similarity between Verlaine and Television with Marquee Moon and The Cure first and second album......
perfect!
I love this group
I love the Cure, but they weren’t goth, they only have early material like Charlotte Sometimes that can be considered proto-goth, otherwise only 4 of their albums were dark, somewhat goth. They’re mostly a pop band.
yeah i totally agree!
That was a weird label I personally didn't appreciate at the time. There was a vague Indy or Alternative label, maybe post Punk or Avant-garde if you had spent too long reading the NME. It was a very broad and interesting church and the Goth label pigeon holed thing's when the point of it was to break away from the limitations of the Punk year zero nonsense.
You nailed it, so funny that bands like the cure and sisters of mercy hated the goth moniker even though they became associated with it. I totally agree that they were utterly pop with post punk tendencies.
Always a great band in my books !! / TREPANIC
This is a re upload. I've seen this documentary 3 yrs ago here on YT.
Strange this is exactly the same as the documentary called "out of the woods" released in 2004.
Bring it on…. Is it… Always…. Like.. this!!
Great Documentary, Would've liked to see more on Disintegration probably their best album but interesting and informative, The only problem i have with the Cure is their album covers. I think their best cover is Boys Don't cry and that's a compilation album released in Australia and the U.S. Maybe they didn't think the cover art was that important?
🎶I appreciate how a lot of the band members didn't take being dropped by a lable personally. They also had the insight (more strongly in hindsight) that maintaining a band had a lot to do within the business of the music indusatry...and how it all sucked...It's like don't waste energy by looking back for redemption ..look forward on how to manipulate "the masses" independantly within the digital streaming methods of today.
Wow clear your voice mate Jeez
Bummer they couldn't use actual tracks from the Cure, but of course I understand the realities- just a shame nonetheless.
I would have rather heard no music at all. The repetitive generic shit they constantly used throughout this documentary made me want to strangle a puppy.
Yes!!! This will be good.
I don't understand how this a doco on the Cure, but not a single sound cut of the Cure's sound, just dodgy covers.....Why?
He was awesome in Edward Scissor Hands!
It really is so weird listening to these old comments - THE MUSIC WAS GREAT.
Always thought early cure - Three Imaginary Boys, Fire in Cario early stuff must of been influenced by The Buzzcocks.
What can you say really. They are the bad every punk rocker says they hate but listens to on the DL at home alone haha Loved the Cure since the early 90s.. I can't even believe I'm this old haha feels like yesterday it was summer and Friday I'm in love was on every 20 minutes on MTV
There's only one cure.
The Cure 🖤
The background music sounds like they just threw together a local swing band and said---"whatever you can do."
00:19 Good stuff..
Robert Smith was heavily influenced by Casper Wyoming legend Gothic King Cobra.
Good chat
love
A Forest, Cure Concert 1986 at Offenbach Germany ...
Hey! I _like_ Fields Of The Nephilim! Bloody good band.
A lot of those goth bands _were_ derivative carp though.
Crap. That should told crap, not carp. When did CZcams's auto correct get so bloody invasive and idiotic?
A Forest is on here(youtube) before it was recorded but it was called At Night, and the lyrics didn't have Forest in them,
they used AT Night for a different song...which I love..I love the songs most fans think of songs in between their favorites...
After I saw "in Orange" live on MTV at an LSD party" it changed my life.on Monday I told my drum teacher I wanted to learn these songs and I had a list lol...
❤❤❤
I actually like the album "The Top." It's not their best album but it is one of their more interesting records and none of the tracks are weak. It stands out among the others in a way that's hard to explain. It's has a pleasant and off-putting sound at the same time. I can see why critics panned it at first. But it deserves a closer listen.
How that guy can say the cure invented Goth is beyond me , I loved the first 3 cure albums but Sabbath/ The doors Bauhaus and even Roxy Music had these dark elements that a lot of bands took inspiration from that were later called Goth bands . There was more diversity in what became Goth than just to be described as sad . Anyway Goth never died it just diversified. I saw Massive Attack play Bela Lagosi and it made complete sense to me . Nuff said.
Oi, you, he's my distant cousin! OORAH SEMPER fi! The MARINES loves the CURE!
Oooo!
Godamm that gargling voice guys narration in headphones tho 😬 🎧
John Robb’s?
he joined with susan janet aka Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees
nice doc but what's up with the knock-off Cure music in the background lol
Tbh probably to avoid copyright
"Like Cats" is my favorite
I like blue metal.
Country rock funk
Paul Morley - a legend... in his own lunchbox.
Lol.
Dark metal with talent is a bit rare
it's interesting to hear Severin talk about Robert Smith/The Cure, but the rest of these guys, not so much
No mention of the Faith Tour, then?
No one cares about George Michael these days sweetheart! 😊
@@DaveSCameron Oh dear. Ignorant of The Cure's earlier albums, are we? Another Jonny-come-lately poseur.
*began
After Wish, the Cure music changed.
Can you do an arcade fire video
Arcade Fire? They're not in the same universe as a legendary band like The Cure.