Black Tesla Paint Correction! Very Finicky Thin Clear Coat Kicked My Butt!
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this video I will show you the steps that I took to correct the paint on a 2017 Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor. This paint is very finicky and has really thin clear coat to begin with. It was a lot of work and didn't turn out perfect but it made a big turnaround.
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A friend of mine has a new Tesla which he bought in early 2019 and yes bad paint they have. Also, the screen is kind of hard to learn about but the car is very comfortable. Not many charging stations here but works for him since he doesn't travel far since he has the beach very close to him and his family lives less than 30 minutes from his home.
Xoxo from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷
Humberto Roche Garcia It is a fun car to drive but not for everyone. Thanks man
Humberto Roche Garcia he probably charges at home like I do. I don’t drive much.
@@jaykid007 Hi! Yes, that's exactly what he does and always carries the super charge connection thingy in case he drives to an event to the other side of the island.😉
Humberto Roche Garcia yep me too! You never know. Have a great day
Man that thing took some testing but you found a great combo man! That thing turned out freaking awesome givin how bad an finicky the paint was. Looks awesome man! Great video. 👍👍
PapaSmurf918 It took a minute but I figured it out and was happy with the results. Thanks brother
I literally went through the same detail last night but with a 2019 mazda. Paint readings of 2.7 and 2.9 total hours in were just over 6.That was definitely finicky paint. Overall fantastic turnaround on the Tesla Brian.
404 not found Man I hate that paints are getting this thin. They are just trying to save money. Thank you
Hey Brain, if I can give you an FYI. Soft paint is a pain of course. What I've found to work 95% of the time switch your polisher to a 12mm instead of the 15, or 21mm. The huge throw of bigger ones puts to much stress on the clear. You might want to try the Rupes Yellow Wool pad with your Polish, then switch over to your polishing pad for the finish work. This method on soft paint works 95% of time. Plus, the thin paint was working against you. And you still did a phenomenal job. 👍👍 two thumbs up my friend.
MAJESTIC DETAIL Man I really appreciate the Info! I don’t have a 12 mm throw but almost switched to my OG Griots Garage 8mm throw but talked myself out of it. I will have to buy some wool pads for futures details with soft paint. Thanks again man!
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing No problem, I always feel we should always help each other out. Check out the Shinemate EX605 5inch 12mm throw. Great inexpensive machine with more power than the Rupes Duetto. Never ever had any issues with mine and smooth on the paint.
MAJESTIC DETAIL That’s why I started my channel to help people. What i didn’t expect is I get just as much help in return.
Yea brother, I did a White Tesla recently & the paint was definitely different. Was careful & it complied alright. Glad you had the opportunity to do one! :-)
Shine Your Light Detailing Yeah not all that much fun but turned out ok. Thanks man
The fog on the door was from when they fixed and repainted the quarter panel. The tape job with the plastic probably wasn’t the best and clear coat made it under the plastic. Usually comes off with a heavy clay or good cutting compound. Nice job on the polishing, nothing beats a shiny black car.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking also. Thank you! Black is amazing when cleaned up right.
Great video Brian with wonderful explanations of what you were doing and why. Just add this to the collections of reasons I will not own a Tesla.....Their paint. LOL....
Camaro Time Thank you! Same reason I won’t own one but man it’s a blast to drive. Surprisingly powerful!
I actually have a Tesla to correct today and it’s black as well so this video was very helpful and is going to save me some time thank you!
Great job Brian👍 Those cars with the soft finicky clear are the worst😒😠 My S2000 also has soft clear & black as well & it took me what seems a lifetime to get it acceptable. The owner before me must have used it to race because the paint & the windshield are pitted real bad☹ When I first looked at it & I opened the hood I noticed that it had a wet N₂O setup. You know with N₂O hooked up you must be racing a little🤏 Enjoy the rest of your weekend FAB✌🏼✌🏼
IntervalePC Thank you! Man the paint sucks to get right for sure.
At the end of your wash process use Chem-x asphalt and tar remover to get rid of all that junk on the paint. Works better than any tar remover on the market. Use lightly and let sit for a minute then wipe of. No more dirty clay
Jeremy D Thanks for the tip!
Awesome to see your combos and attack methods on correcting the paint. 5 years of experience at a body shop and I can tell you the left side doors that the deep splotches were over spray from a bad masking job on painting that quarter panel. Love the channel
Bill Beard Thank you! Yes a few people have said it was overspray. Glad you guys let me know what it was. Thank you
got a full detail tomorrow black tesla model. lets doooo it
I knew it was going be hard when I seen it I’m glad you made it threw it good old griots pulled it threw
Thank you! Griots never disappoints!
You had a very hard project in front of you. Very impressed with the results! 👍👍.
Greg Mosk Thank you!
Brian, Recently I corrected a red Hyundai Sante Fe with many deep scratches & door dings with 3D One (One Coat) & uro fiber pad. I finished with Turtle Wax Hybrid Solution Polish/ Wax (One Coat) with Lake Country Orange Pad. I first lightly sanded with 3000 grit sandpaper. I removed most of the defects. It was my first time using uro fiber pad & 3D One, from Brian (Apex Detail) recommendation, and worked really well. I was impressed!
HARTLAND DETAILER Glad to heat you got good results. I have seen Brian’s video on that product and it looks good.
next time try a Yellow Rupes Wool pad for cutting and a rupes white pad for polishing....works very good on those soft paint
scoupemaster Thanks for the Info!
Such a big improvement!! Gotta love it. Urofiber and FCC works as an amazing combo. I bet if you had put the urofiber or the microfiber pad on the m15 pro2, it would of had little to no stalling. I don’t think it likes those Rupes pads. I have similar towels like you have and they lint a lot so I moved them to utility as well. I had to ceramic coat my Tesla and PPF the front to keep the paint protected since its so thin. Great video Fab and have a great Labor Day weekend!
Jason Davis Thank you! I think it was the Rupes pads also. PFF would definitely be the way to go especially if it was brand new. Thanks and you too
Oh man, we work on these daily in our shop and can tell you they arent easy. Excellent work and nice turn around on that thrashed paint.
Adonis Detail Man I don’t envy you! 😂 It turned out better then I thought it would. Thank you! Not perfect but way better.
bro.. how did you know I have a black tesla.. thanks for this video... I used to have an F150 but switched to the model 3 performance.
Yesla4Tesla Just a guess! 😂 The performance is crazy with these cars.
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing It is crazy. The best way I explain it is the gas pedal is like a "Go" button. No matter the speed, stomping on the pedal results in instant power. Like a normal car would downshift and rev up, this is just instant. After 6+ months, I still find myself having some "fun" lol.. I used to have the f150 which you and I talked back then.. Check out my f150 videos you will remember me :)
Just finished a black 2019 modelel 3 and jumped online to see if there were any vids about black tesla paint and its issues.im glad im not the only one that found it difficukt and finicky.
I ended uo using a yellow LC cutting oad oaired with Negs Ultimate compound followed by megs yktumate polish abd an orange LC pad. I found that the slower speeds corrected equally as fast and left almost no haze .
Whike the CC was thinner than most, it gad very little orange peel.
Oversll it came out good and the custoner was haopy.
Gtmreat job and thanks for sharing the video.
You are welcome! That’s good to know about the lower speeds. These Tesla paints suck that’s for sure. Thanks for watching
I'm glad I was there to help that paint finicky. HOOF OUT!!
Hoof Hearted Man it wore you out! 😂
Hi Brian you did an amazing job on the paint, considering how bad it was it is like a different car, can't wait to see with the coating on 👌👌👌
Eamon Kelly Thank you!
Great video!!! I would not be a happy camper with that job. Great job!!!
Bee Jay Thanks! Yeah it sucked but the end result was worth it.
Car looks alot better. What you thought was paint peel i recognize as over spray on the panel. After I got my truck back from the body shop they over sprayed on the passenger side (not the side they where working on) and when they compounded the panels they worked on the left alot of haze on the panels. Great video tho.
Michael Campbell Thanks! Yeah a few people have said over spray.
I can see all these f. Ing micro marring before you even started .
I bet i did not leave micro marrings.
I removed swirls with one stage compound and never removed micro marring cause i guess one step doesn't remove micro marrings .....
Very cool video as always Fab
Thank you!
Hi fab nice car you had your work cut out looks awesome wow a big difference it look bad you made it look better fab black is the hardest to paint correctly great shine love the clear paint tool love to have one of them makes a big difference to test the paint to buff 😎
Robert Knapp Thanks man! It was a lot of work but turned out great.
I gotta do my neighbors black model Y with scratches from the auto washers all over. We shall see but I plan on using what you used 👍🏻
Good luck these Tesla paints suck. Just take your time and you will be fine.
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing thanks. I’ve had three Tesla’s. All white to hide scratches better. Would never own a black car from any maker.
Next time try a rotary with an LC super soft blue pad + Carpro essence or Rupes UnoPure. You’ll get a perfect finish on soft black paint.
Appreciate the info! Thanks
If you use Shine Supply products, i just did a truck today. Which i used classic cut for compound with a uro 50-50 pad, slick back with a microfiber sealant pad as a polish primer with sio2, and Adam's graphene coating, and the results were superior. If you have never tried Shine Supply product's you're missing out. You can use 1-2 products instead of 3-5 different other products.
Neil Dorrity Typically I use just 1 of 2 products but these Tesla’s are not even close to a typical detail. I have heard good things about Shine Supply though.
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Shine Supply products are top notch products, last week was the first time i used there products and from just 2 products, I will be using there products from now on. There prices aren't expensive either. I'm not being paid to say this just being truthful to finish products. I really enjoy your work and channel keep up the good work.
Neil Dorrity I appreciate the info I will look into them. Thank you
Dope. Looks nice. I'm taking notes bro and will attempt on a black 2017 model S. Glad I clicked on your channel. Thanks for sharing your work and experience. Peace.
Thank you and good luck! You are welcome and thanks for watching
Nice job! Isn't there a new Hybrid Solutions product that fills in defects a little on the black paint to cover all them dots in the hood? I know that the old Turtle Wax Black Box would hide them some. Funny, I didn't buy any of the new Hybrid Solutions black items, thinking that I wouldn't get any black paint detailing jobs this year. Turns out that most of the jobs that I did this year were black vehicles. Corrected black vehicles sure are satisfying to look at when they are completed.
I have a red Tesla model 3 and have those white little dots all over my hood as well. I'm not sure what it is either. I already corrected with an Orange Pad and Wolfgang swirl remover but didn't make a difference as far as the small white dots go. can only see it at just the right angle under the sun.
kawtriples I thought about using the TW Black Polish but I didn’t want to leave any protection behind since I was installing a coating. Black sure looks great after a detail.
I'm exhausted after watching this trial of yours Brian, but it was good to finally see you satisfied. For me, these new water based paints are very disappointing and I expect that the future is going to prove the lack of durability for these thin paints on German, Asian and Tesla automobiles. I wish they all had Chevrolet Corvette paint jobs with their hard clear coats. I don't know which paint you like to work on, the soft or hard. I am still trying to figure for the car owner is better as well as for the detailing world. Thanks.
Kyle Marx Thank you! Yeah these paints suck. I like working with medium to hard clear coats.
Great job on black soft paint! Looks so much better.
Chris Murphy Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and processes on the Tesla. Huge improvement‼️ I was curious about the section that looked like the clear coat was failing and glad to see that it buffed out nicely. I'm sure your brother will very happy.
Looking forward to seeing the next installment 👍✌️🇺🇸
B Stewart ExecutiveCarCare You are welcome and I’m glad you liked it. So I was told that section was overspray from the rear quarter panel being painted. Thanks brother I always appreciate you watching
They are so easy to get buffer trails
Yea they are!
Looks good. My Blue M3 is on order so I’m getting a preview of the job ahead of me.
Thanks! If you are getting a BMW most likely it will have very hard clear coat.
Tesla build quality and paint is just terrible. Engineering Explained had a terrible experience with his upon delivery. Panel gaps all over the place paint defects everywhere. Not good
Corey Wagganer I can see why they had problems. One thing is for sure though it is quick off the line.
Brian I'm very impressed you had an incredibly challenging detail, what I ve seen with Telsas is the paint quality is all over the map from poor at best to having next to no clear straight from the factory. Awesome turn around.
Jay Zstr Thank you! It was a challenge for sure and wasn’t perfect but turned out way better then I thought it would when I first started.
You might need to use meguiar's m 110 to remove that spider wedding thats going on and then m205 next try that
Excellent video Brian !
Maybe that foggy lower section was hard water from sprinkler system that repeatedly sprayed panel in same parking spot. ???
It could have been it was weird looking whatever it was.
I was shocked when I picked up a new client with a black model X. The car never should have been sold the way it was. Its still not good, I was floored with what he got for the money they charge. It makes sense why they have been listed in the top 10 for worst quality cars. Griots FCC is my go to 100% of the time, it finishes so well with foam pads.
watagump1 I agree I would have thought it would be better for what they cost. FCC is great and finishes awesome with the BOSS microfiber pads also.
Thanks very much for this. Much appreciated from the UK ❤️
You are welcome
Ordered the bits. I'll get on to it.
I just got 2 to do! First ones
@@msmrepo3271 good luck! 🍀
I dont mind longer videos, if they are easy for you to do im ok
Carlos Rivera Thank you for the input!
1st from Puerto Rico 👍🇵🇷
Great work, what sucks is the paint will end up looking swirly again after 2-3 washes no matter how careful you are. Ugh i wish i went with white lol
Double ceramic coat the thing and do a ton a lot of maintenance. If I do biweekly washes I can just foam it, power wash everything off and blow dry it.
@@camosbourne8018 i’ll try that
Lots of spider wedding still in the paint use meguiar's 110
Great video, I found the same issue with my brother's Tesla. what did work for me was Last Cut compound (amazing stuff for soft black paints) w/ GG Boss MF and then I finished it with CarPro Essence w/ Gloss Pad. I used a small mist of filtered water in the last pass and low speed, worked like a charm. Interesting paint readings. Btw which coat did you use? Regards!
So what is the Highline meter exactly telling you? How thick the clear coat is? Or if there is bondo from being repaired?
With the high number in the thirties and forties that will be filler in behind the paint.
Ed Ornelas The meter is giving you an over all thickness of the paint between the meter and the metal body panel. Typical paint is about 4-5 mils and 2 mils is usually the clear coat. When it’s a high number then there is filler between the metal and the gauge. It’s basically a depth meter.
Very good job félicitation
Thanks!
Looks good 👍🏼I’m new to your channel 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼✌🏼
NeverRideDirty AutoDetailing Thank you and welcome to the channel!
Tesla excellent cars......But..the Paint is the worse ever! Chicago Auto Pro had to return one to the factory ..there was no paint in the back!! side note, i wonder if the haziness was worse because you stayed on the same panel, doing corecting then polishing right after!?? just curious ! soft paint hazes like crazy either way~! Thanks! You worked hard on that one for sure! good ceramic or graphine coating candidate
Dan Morrissette I agree they are good cars but paint sucks. From what I understand they are going to change the paint. Thank you! It was a lot of work but turned out great for the way it started.
Great job buddy try m110 next time then follow with m205
Good job all that work in one day you must have spent 12 hours on the polisher alone 👍🏻👍🏻
Kenny D Man I was wore out! 😂
Wow the one side of the car was crazy thin how would you least aggressive polish and protect it ? What pad and polish
Good stuff man!!
Looks amazing for tough paint🤘🏼😎
MNpicker Thank you!
Looks great, good job!
Thank you!
Video title should be, “Why you don’t buy a black Tesla”. It looks a lot better, though. Would a coating have prevented those tiny sand chips?
Thanks! That would be a good title. The coating would help but not completely stop the sand chips on the front.
I just purchased a used Roadster and it has black paint. There are a few chips which I figure are permanent. But on the hood there are two "smears". I don't know how else to describe it. If you can imagine you had mud on your hand and with the ends of a couple fingers wiped a 3 inch irregular shaped spot, that is what the mark looks like. I tried the clay bar (used the Grios Synthetic one & Speed Shine) after I had washed it thoroughly the day before. Just waxed it and smear still there. I can't think what would cause it or how to fix it. On the "stripe" (assume it is vinyl, not painted on), there are water spots which wouldn't come up with the clay either. Any ideas? Oh and what product do you recommend for convertible soft tops?
3 miicrons thick!!??? I wonder how much bondo they put in that area. 30ml that's ridiculous!!!! How about some Ctreem solutions diminishing compund with their Finisher polish??
Looks good tfs buddy
Nice turnaround! Surprised you didn’t put it up on the QuickJack for the lower panels.
Wade Miyataki Thanks man! It sat to low for the quick jacks unfortunately.
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing That explains that.
I just tried to sand down small medium scratches on my model 3 black with 1500 grit. Wet sanded for 20 seconds and rinsed off the gunk. To my surprise I was already through the clear coat and part of the base coat. I could see through the black paint and the yellow primer. The paint was so thin... makes me think if black is just a single stage. This was my driver side rear door. :(
Oh man that’s unfortunate to hear. I know it’s really thin clear on these cars.
Good job
What u see on the bottom is clear coat over spray from body shop.
Jay Quezada That’s good time know! Thank you
Great job! I just got one of those paint depth gauges and I'm wondering how you calibrate them?
Sheldon Classen Thanks! The Manila tells you how and it would be hard to explain on here. Apex Detail did a video on it if you look it up.
what did somebody wash that thing with a sponge dipped in gravel?
Who knows! The average person has no idea how to properly was a vehicle.
Nice job I think that “ Clearcoat failing look”. Was overspray.
Alfredo Martinez Thank you! I think it was overspray also.
Definitely 👍 overspray
You had same issue w stalling on thst Maxshine. I’m so disappointed in mine. I feel I blew 200 bucks
Frankie Kenneth This was the first time it really stalled I think it was the pads. When I use the thin Griots BOSS pads it doesn’t stall.
FAB Automotive Detailing ironically it’s the same pads ive got. I need to try it with my lake country or urofiber. Also may add the washer mod too
Frankie Kenneth I did the washer mod and urofiber, no issues at all
Hey Brian. What do the number mean when doing a reading on paint thickness
How thick the layers of paint are from the primer to the clearcoat.
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing what numbers should they be at
@@donschultz7759 Typical is 5-6 mils
@@FABAutomotiveDetailing yeah I started watching paint thickness with apex Detail and now you. I never knew what that meant untill now. I hear microns and all this lingo and I'm like what. Also I splurged on a new polisher. Papa Smurf was doing a video so I thought hard and long so I took the splurge. I picked up the shinemate ex620.
Great informative video on polishing
Do Honda accords have thin clear coat based on your experience with different cars?
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Why was the Maxshine stalling?
China
Rich Smith Not sure! I think it’s the thick Rupes pads because it doesn’t stall with my BOSS thin pads.
BLACK PAINT IS PAIN IN THE @$$!!!!!
MIDDLE GA DETAILING Yes it is!
Need new paint job
All Tesla’s need new paint jobs! 😂
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Get rid of those darn shedding towels.
Simon99 They are now utility towels!
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