Does Pep Guardiola “Overthink” Big Games?
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Pep Guardiola has been accused by some of overthinking his approach to Champions League knock-out games, especially away from home. While his sweeping tactical changes ahead of such games, away from City’s consistent 4-3-3 and best players and towards more responsive, opposition-focussed approaches, still require a bravery of thought, Guardiola seems overly caught up in anticipating and responding to the opposition.
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Not even finished watching the City game today but Pep did it again.🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Lmao I’m not the only one nice
Came straight to this video to share after the Lyon game. It just keeps happening.
@BIBEK KOIRALA He turns into Unai Emery. Becomes pragmatic and focuses on the opposition too much. He lacks faith in his usual tactics so he changes it for big matches.
Pep did it to find a excuse to come back to barca👻👻👻👻😜😜😜😜😜😜
actually, pep’s changes worked this time. changing to a three at the back was the right decision. however his players just weren’t clinical enough and that’s when he started losing faith in the system and changed things around. lyon converted and city didn’t, that’s all.
He did it again in the most important match of Man. City’s history
Who is here after he overthinked against lyon and blew it again?
Sterling was MOTM (for Lyon) lol
Me
Waleed Abu Osbeh yes but shouldn’t city have trashed them since they have such a big budget and better players then Lyon?
Waleed Abu Osbeh To be fair they would have been 5-0 up at half time if he didn’t
@Waleed Abu Osbeh It was a good plan, but with the wrong players playing according to me...... Kyle walker in the defense instead of fernandinho would have taken care of the pace that Guardiola wanted to tackle with the back 3. On the right wing where walker actually played in the game, perhaps an attacking player like Mahrez/Bernardo/Foden would have been better. But that's just my thoughts....
“HE’S DONE IT AGAAAAIIIINNNNN”
lol
Nah Tuchel outplayed him
who’s watching after Man City vs Spurs? What a crazy game it was!
Guardiola Sucks Dick. Had he started Sane, City would be through to Semi right now
As a Spurs fan I was shitting myself. I will take that but of luck.
City was too open in the second leg, conceding 3 goals at home is never going to work in a 2 legged round. Guardiola said City had to attack after being 1-0 down in the first leg but a goal deficit isn't a big disadvantage and City could still manage the game properly. Instead, City were wide open and overall Spurs deserved to go through.
Lorente hand balled it if it was a penalty in the last round it’s a disallowed goal in this game and in the Liverpool game Porto were all over it if u watch the highlights and mane was offside the lineman put his flag up but VAR allowed it the referee should have looked at it on his screen the best league in the world with the WORST officiating
@@londzale3163 I think the mistake was not playing with KDB the first leg..
"Liverpool's front three" *Shows Andy Robertson
Damn 😂
Yeah, well, it IS often Robertson who unleashes the long ball to the front. ;)
Do you forget how Robertson ran around the Man City half like lunatic and scared half of Man City players in 2018??
R. Hasudungan and you’re still not gonna win the league 🤫
@@JamesJones-od2ns
And Man City will never win Champions League even if they buy Messi and Cristiano. Even Aston Villa won it once, against BAYERN of all team.
Admit it. They suck.
So, here after the final, what's his "logic" this time?
I'm guessing bc Chelsea already beat him twice he thought he needed to try something new? Maybe by playing ALL his attacking midfielders he thought it would overwhelm Kante & Jorginho??
Hope TIFO makes a video to explain this
It’s called he doesn’t have the type of power to influence a game on winning or losing! We give these managers a way too much credit when talking about them. It’s 90% on the world class, professional footballers who decide on winning or losing!
@@happytrailsgamingThen why is it that when these world class footballers lose matches turn around to blame the coach??
Just going by your own logic, can you explain the turn around that happened at Barca when Pep took over. Can you also explain the Turn around at Bayer Leverkusen when Xabi Alonso went there. Why weren't these teams performing before these individuals arrived.
I am hoping you can teach me something here.
Aged like fine wine.
As much as Pep's deep thought is his strength, it's also one of his few weaknesses. You can tell by how tortured he looks by his side even when they're dominating a game, he never looks as though he's enjoying it until the final whistle goes. With regards to the sweeping changes, I'm not sure it's necessarily conservatism, perhaps an over-estimation of the opposition's strengths and an uncharacteristic lack of faith in what makes him so successful domestically.
Stokie09123 I feel like it also has to do with teams who press high. Seeing as he struggles against Liverpool, Tottenham and Barca who have all deployed a sort of press
It's because he wants his team to do the simple things until they reach the other team's area. It is when his players are trying to hard and taking unnecessary risks anywhere in the pitch that you can see his frustration. With his Barca, those things came natural to them because they have been coached to play that way in the academy.
@@thefutureofsoccer5226 I'd go with that, something to do with his concern about his philosophy not being allowed to play out on the pitch because of the press, but then because of the worry he changes it all up to a system he doesn't truly believe in and one the players aren't accustomed to.
@@edd0f Fair point, I just think he's a naturally stressed person. Because he's a perfectionist in every sense of the world. His change in appearance from when he started at Barca, to when he finished and the fact he took a sabbatical from management at such a young age (and after so much success) is testament to the fact he puts himself under so much strain.
@@Stokie09123 yes, he does. He is aware of his flaws and thinks of a way to keep things fresh. He has said before that he will leave when he thinks he can't improve the team.
Klopp is the chaos to Guardiola's order
What about Pochettino few hours ago?
@@norpriest521 controlled michro-chaos
Aniket Aryan ye jealous. He took over clubs that had a low budget and weren’t the bets in their league and then changed them completely. He has to wait in Liverpool but he got many in germany
in 1 vs 1 : yes Klopp tortures him, even in Germany he used to. That being said, in terms of trophy cabinet, no comparison at all what so ever. For all the love and respect for Jurgen : it's going to be 6 seasons WITHOUT A TROPHY @ ANFIELD
@@SpiceBoy7UK23 It's his 4th season at liverpool.He has done great,the defence had Klavan as the main man when he came.The defence was shambles,midfield was not that good.That man has transformed liverpool.
Pep unusally played 3 at the back today vs Lyon and that backfired too !!
and the day after that you guys got dumped by sevilla which tbf are better than lyon.
@@talhaali7289 still no excuse, Pep overthinking struck again in Lisbon and it struck again against Chelsea twice and it will most likely happen in the final again.
@@Vortex__24 Correct sir. It did.
@@realist1641 Yep, I am the MODERN DAY PROPHET
This video just became important yet again
I’d say that Bayern’s approach to that away leg was anything but conservative. Interesting video though, as ever.
But I think the analysis is relevant to the main point of the video, that Guardiola alters what works for the "big games" thus overthinking.
def not .... but overthought? definitely. what madman would go 3v3 at the back against messi suarez neymar
@@vincentadultman104 It worked till the 77th minute. Actually, Lewandowski had 3 blatant opportunities to score, but he was horrible that night.
@@DC-zi6se nope, it was a flop
That first leg was honestly one of the best games ive ever seen. People will look at the score and be like "ho hum".
But like you said, Bayern didnt go into it conservative. That had a heck of a lot of chances from both teams. The chain passing in the final third from each side was incredible. GKs made saves. And the first half was up and down.
Edit: and i forgot the high press, which both teams were able to pass their way out on many occasions versus clearing the ball down the field
Like im not a big football guy because ive never played the sport. Basketball is my favorite sport. But everything i think of when i think "what constitutes a great football match" was embodied by that first leg.
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He did it again and lost to the 7th best farmers in France.
I thought premier league were farmers?
MyNoseisDirty imo premier legaue is better in quality of teams
@@cummerchant542 nah, PL is the farmers league, which is nobody is actually a GOD team like the other league.
Premier laca is is better in terms of placing.their relagation would survive Frances
@@ilhamshahriar8600 no premier league isn't the farmers because it's not 1 team dominating all the time. Ligue1 , Bundesliga and serie a only have 1 team that win all the time, making them a farmers league since they are just farning trophies.
He did it again against chelsea today lol
Such a poor decision to not play fernandinho and to play sterling
this time pep didn’t overthink, he underthinked you can say cause who the hell doesn’t play a cdm at a final against chelsea who are known for their counters
Pep started Fernandinho and Rodri (2 CDMs) against Tuchel’s Chelsea in the FA Cup and lost
Pep started only Rodri (1 CDM) against Chelsea in the PL fixture and still lost
So Pep decided not to start any against Chelsea in the CL final. He definitely didn’t overthink this simple stuff. He failed with CDMs. Why even try one?
Besides, City conceded the exact goal against Chelsea with Ziyech. Exactly like the one Havertz scored in CL final
Having Fernandinho in the FA Cup game really didn’t prevent Chelsea from scoring Ziyech’s goal
@@willg1088 as if chelsea played with their full squad
Well said. I was confused by what you meant 'overthinking' his tactics, but after watching the video I fully support what you said.
It’s 2020 and still Guardiola changed his tactics into a knockout stages’ game 🤷🏾♂️
2021, no changes.
Watching this after the ucl final and he overthinked again, benched both Fernandinho and rodri
It’s 2021 and Pep reaches the UCL final with City. Having beaten PSG in the Semis with a recognised DM in both legs (Rodri in 1st and Fernandinho in 2nd), Pep decides to play with Bernando-Gundo-Foden in Midfield, which left their defensive exposed. Also, starting Sterling, who has been off form all season and hadn’t started any of the QFs or SF ties. Aguero was on the bench, so he didn’t start a recognised CF again either. He really did overthink think this one.
Arteta does the same thing. In the match vs Villarreal, he doesnt stick to one system and tries to change things before a big game. In the 1st leg, he played Smith-Rowe as a false 9 and had Auba on the bench. Then in the second leg, he plays a 4-1-4-1 with Partey in midfield on his own, 4 attackers and Auba upfront. He takes off Auba at 80mins for Laca, then later brings on Eddie Nkethiah. Chopping and changing.
It's not hard to beat P$G if you have more money than them.
Amazing video. It was very insightful and even changed my perspective a bit at the end I love that
Thank you kindly. - Alex
He has done it again! This time against Real Madrid
Barca, Liverpool, Spurs, Lyon and now Chelsea. He will never be considered the greatest manager ever with performances like these
here we go again....hope he doesn't extend contract again
you're so ungrateful
Fr, he should leave
I wonder why this is in my recommended now of all times... I wonder
Spot on! His second leg response and Spurs reaction to that should be a future video. It is one of the single best game in CL to watch. Please review that.
This is so relevant now
He bottled the Champions league final (20/21)🤣🤣🤣
he overthiked again lol
busted by the spurs
PhobetorXVII and again now
And again today
I think he's terrified of being outsmarted.
raketnight hes being outsmarted.
By guys like simeone, mourinho or klopp.
Top managers themselves.
Happened at bayern, happens at man city.
He is the best manager for winning leagues, no doubt.
No guy gets his teams so ready for the small games.
But thats mistly bcs his football philosophy works especially well against smaller sides while guys like mou, simeone and klopp would probably do better in playoffs.
Firing up your players, being aggressive, defending supremely well and executing deadly counter attacks.
Thats always been the way to beat world class possession teams.
Bcs most of the time these guys are smaller and physically weaker.
While being extremely good with the ball at their feet, they are bad in 1vs1 physical battles.
And his style of play has his central defenders pushing up almost to the middle of the field, which leaves him vulnerable to counter attacks.
raketnight but its not that special.
He simply has the philosophy that says if i have the ball, you cant score.
If i pass the ball, you have to run after it the entire time.
If i have the ball, i can create.
Thats cruyffs total football i believe.
And now you have the question, how do you counter this?
And its hard.
You have to have all of your players behind the vall so that you dont get overwhelmed.
They have to be extremely disclipined defending and leaving no space or irrelevenat space.
And you have to have players that will be physically and mentally able to defend and try to get the ball for 90 minutes while making no mistakes the same time.
And if you do that + have quick counter attacks with 2-,3 or maybe 4-5 players + deadly finishing, youll win.
I remember bayern vs atletico very well
And bayern vs wolfsburg
Once we lost to wolfsburg with de bruyne 1:4 i think.
Counter attacks
One and a half year later we absolutely dominated them, especially in the first half.
They never even touched the ball - thats what it felt like.
The ball was passed around so well
@@kloschuessel773 but outsmarted mourinho,Samione,Alex ferguson...when he was at barca lol😂
@@kloschuessel773 if you have the ball, you can create. but if your passing is inaccurate or if you slip up, you are dead meat. Teams like Italy 2006 will punish you. They punished Germany because Podolski couldn't control the ball properly and Canavaro stole the ball then started counter attack. They also punished almost any team who gave them corner kick.
City out again
This year was golden chance for teams like city ,athletico,Juve.
He did it against Barcelona with bayern against Tottenham and lyon now against Chelsea.... Simply he a learning coach far to be a manager of high level
Who’s here after the champions league final?
This aged well… 29/05/2021
Puts his most potent goal scoring midfielder this season in the DM position and a left winger up front in a UCL final. You do these experiments in a pre-season friendly. Completely changed his structure in which he won the League this season. 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly. Sterling hardly played well this year. Needed Rodri or Fernd in midfield. Pep lost his mind.
2022, real Madrid vs Manchester City.
This video is still up to date
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And again 🤣🤣
@@b6pablo honestly how the fuck is he still not sacked ?
Who’s here after Man City lost the champions league final
The biggest mistake he made was underestimating kante, that little man alone makes games, best player in recent history when it comes to counter attacking
He's done it again!!!!
We will be coming back to this video every year by the looks of it LOL
He's done it again!
Another great video always be Tifo, honestly I'm glad I'm subscribed to this channel!
Reminder that its been 9 years since Guardiola last reached a CL final despite winning an insane amount of trophies domestically.
He’s done it again! In a final no less 🤦🏾♂️
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I love how everything city get knocked out of a tournament there's a wave of new comments
Bigger games are harder to control simple. Pep builds teams that are good at keeping possession and don't have to do much actual defending. In big games you are always going to come under pressure at some stage of the game. Against smaller teams it is easier to control games.
I agree. I think Guardiola recognizes that his own defense is inconsistent going against the best, if they are not getting >60% possession. But I do believe a bit of overthinking is making this worse. IMHO Sane was the man of the match in the 2-1 win against Liverpool, specifically for how he tracked back and helped win balls in midfield, so not playing Sane is in no way an improvement.
MC's weakness is if their passing lanes in midfield can be clogged, they can be forced to play longballs, a playing style which they are weaker at than many other top teams. A game determined by aerial duels is something Guardiola is afraid of at the CL knockout stage for his present squad.
@@ComradeOgilvy1984 which is why Real always beat Bayern.
True. Look at his away record in ucl with Barca
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Well, here we are again lads, he's done it again...
WOOOOW! 1 yr later and same story...
He’s only gone and done it again 🤣
He did it again in the champions league final.
I thing Guardiola's teams are builded for control the game with possesion and tlis not usual for them defeding like sometimes you may need against other good times.
Really nice video man
great content tifo
For pep, it’s “overthinking”, but for most other managers these are negative tactics and “a poor mentality”.
People treat Guardiola like an Einstein but he was an average player blessed with an amazing team to manage. He even shat on Etó because he "didn't fit his scheme".
After Barcelona, he destroyed Bayer Munich from the inside and now he is managing a below average team with a lot of money.
you say negative tactics but 1 of the matches in this video showed his Bayern side defend with just 3 players against the famed MSN..
@@smahajan1995 you need big balls for that one😂
RandalfElVikingo Oh please give me a break... Look at the team he has built at City. If you can’t give any recognition to the first manager to get a Premier League side above 100 points you must really be deluded. He plays beautiful football and he has helped players like Sterling to reach a top class level. Everything can not be bought with money and Mourinho showed you exactly that at United.
@@victorpetersen1929 klopp show u that averages sides with hardwork, performances together and few with natural ability can win u gamea
He did it again this time in UCL final
He also overtinked 0-4 against Madrid, a 4-2-4 setup against Ancelotii side was sure... controvelsal one.
That was not pep's fault. It was the fault of egos of players who didn't trust pep. Lahm confirmed in an interview
yup lahm said guardiola wanted to do something, the players wanted to do something else, he let them be and after that spank bayern players finally bought into his ideas for good
@@dineshloitongbam7734 yup, Bayern had just had a treble winning season with jupp which included a 7-0 mauling of barca. It took them a mauling of their own to get that they needed to move on.
@@oliviercolletaz5841 not true. Go read pep confidential. Guardiola was in turmoil on what to do so soon after Tito vilanova's death so he was unsure and he had changed the game plan four five times already. He asked the players because he was unsure and the players told him what they thought so he changed again
vybhav badri your version is the incorrect one. Peps former assistant manager recently confirmed that he had a different matchplan in mind but got pushed by munichs big ego players to change it
He has such a good plan A that when it fails him he has no plan B to supplement it and he must then rely on his players to produce and conjure magic to save the game for him and this was especially evident of his time at Barcelona.
If it is just a matter of getting goals when the game is going well, it is okay to double down on Plan A.
At Anfield, City tried to buttress the defense with Rodri and Gundogan both offering cover. It just did not work well because neither have good defensive instincts, which contributed to two of the goals. Even if this is not quite Plan A, the mindset and skillset of the players are still Plan A.
Different formations/tactical take practice. In contrast, Liverpool has been steadily building up their skillset here over the last 14 months, and it is starting to pay big dividends.
Or you mean any of the world class, most wealthiest clubs he’s managed?? 😂
@@happytrailsgaming Kindly elaborate man
He did it again starting with an unusual formation against chelsea uefa final.
Who's here after he's blown it vs Chelsea without Rodri or Ferna?
Might as well be coming here every year 🤣
Please make a video on 2000 season Galatasaray side beating Arsenal in UEFA Final and Real Madrid in Super Cup.
UCL 2021 final..yup..he did it again
lol, Pep never learns does he. Add Tuchel to the list of managers he fears 💀
Your videos are a whole new level
Such a nice Vid, thanks to CZcams for showing me this.
I think he really tries too many new tactical things in big games, which would be very very effective against the opponent if his players really understand the tactic. But it‘s not the players fault if they rarely play these tactical pieces of Guardiola...
Sorry for my bad english btw ;)
I hope Leeds are able to get promoted just so Bielsa and Guardiola get to square off, it would be great to see Bielsa out think Guardiola
Bielsa and Guardiola faced off quite a few times when Bielsa was Athletic Bilbao's manager and he never managed to beat him as barca were hands down the better team. Same will be the case with Leeds vs City
@@DrHannibal1105 as much as I hate to admit it you're right. But it would be great to see how a world class manager will cope with a newly promoted team in the Premier league
@@kyronhibbert6202 as a neutral I will always support the underdog.
Holy crap I'm thinking the same thing, Guardiola used to pay homage to Bielsa and they'd watch games and analyse them, not sure if this is true though
@@rickyrickalvous2982 yeah I think Bielsa always used to watch Guardiola's Barcelona to try and gain a tactical advantage when Bielsa was at Athletic Bilbao. Can't deny the effort he puts in to each game.
This video has stood the test of time!
who is here after YET AGAIN pep overthinking against Chelsea in a UCL FINAL
Excellent video
Make a video on the famous Brian Clough and Don Revie rivalry
I think the Spurs first leg choices were more about resting players for the premier league rather than a tactical decision.
Great analysis. Scoffed at the title but glad I watched the video. Spot on it seems
Excellent work
Apparently yes he does overthink them 4-3 boys!
Them getting knocked out CL isn't going to help Liverpool. I was a red, I'd of wanted injury time and city to scrape a win.
PL is now their no 1 target.
@@tommyknockers5492 i don't think this changes much. They only game you can expect city to drop points is against spurs and it's the next match anyways
@@tommyknockers5492 But you could say that they might try too hard now to get the W and lose focus, potentially giving spurs the edge?
@@Senster369 no. they will win the league again
Its been like this since the 2014 KO CL games i just dont get Pep’s obsession with fixing something that isnt broke...
Also thought it was odd in 2012 for the second leg vs Chelsea when he lined up with a 3-3-4 for Barcelona. This was probably in response to how deep Chelsea played in the first leg, but this just invited Chelsea to sit even deeper, as well as leaving a gaping hole at the back for Ramires to run through
Here after he did the same in Champions League final 2021!
Great video! Although, if Aguero scored the penalty and city went up 0-1, the spurs would have had to open up earlier and we would probably be talking about a totally different game and probably about how Guardiola's tactics secured a positive result outside of home. Love your channel, keep up the amazing work!
It also wasn't a penalty. Lots of what ifs there
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Pep biggest strength is his biggest weakness, fear of stagnation and being worked out. When it's not broken dont fix it
Exactly.
Elite video once again, lads 👌🏻🔥
"He has done it again that pep guardiola"
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Just watched the second leg and I say yes definitely.
Ucl final...
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Did it vs Chelsea again
He did it again
Great video
I've got an impression that the players on the pitch are main factor in play-off games and tournaments, while when it comes to winning leagues, the coaches are the ones winning by determining a strategy and building a consistency of a team around it. In Champions League knock-out stage you have not enough of a time to rebuild the players' on-pitch decisioning process, so the teams that play a more fluid type of football are usually winning. It always comes to the player's instinct. In Champions League and World Cup tournaments it's better to make tactics around your players' football instinct than persuade them to re-think an entire concept of playing football in a certain team.
It's happening. It's happening again. Pep started Sterling (who's had a terrible run of form recently) and without a CDM (Ferna or Rodri). He saved his overthinking for THE CL Final ffs. The team isn't clicking at all. But it's still half time, hopefully City get this back.
It looks pep got a really big weakness then
Well said TIFO. I was critical of your Roma and LFC video last year, but that was a blip. Your stuff this year has been top drawer. It's a weird combination of factors, you've noted. Pep overthinks, but he also under estimates his opponents capabilities. A key thing City don't really have as a result of being mega oil money, are jack of all trades type players. They seem to be specialists in every position. LFC, for example, have a number of "Jack the lads" who swap roles often. Hence, they have no real problems making tactical adaptions in big matches. Keita, Henderson, Milner, can all play defensive roles in midfield. In Milners case he can go to the back. Matip, if push comes to shove can play in that pocket. Up front Firmino, Salah, and Mane drop back and both become attacking mids. Which was where they developed as footballers, they were'nt out and out strikers.
You are right, good video, I also think that his biggest mistake is conservatism on away games and trying to win it at home, by the way they play it should be the opposite for the rule of goals away, some of those games were tie and the away goals punish him, and some games that he lost at home was for going all attacking like bayern vs real madrid or barca vs chelsea, and many other
It would be interesting to see if he had the same approach with barca when he was in charge. Did he make drastic changes like he has done at Munich and city?
Didn't need to. Guardiola's Barca worked on extremely fluid passing with exceptional harmony in the middle of the park and a player called Lionel messi that augmented that superb Midfield of xavi-iniesta-busquets all in their prime.
But there itself is where this 'reactive' approach came from IMO,
First it was mourinho's inter that i think were the first team to effectively shut down barca then mourinho was once again first to deny him a league title when his Real Madrid beat them by 9 points in 2011-12 (that famous chelsea victory against barca came in the same season.) A sabbatical later he came to bayern and looked as invincible as ever till carlo ancelotti came around with his ruthless Real Madrid and destroyed them 0-4 in their own backyard. All of those teams had found way to resist his fluid passing game and hit his teams on counter effectively.
I’m here after he left Fernandinho and Rodri out of the UCL final.