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And people say they don't like this season. I love it. They just keep putting more and more stress on our characters so we see what they're made of. Arguably season 5 is even better for character development, but this season really does so much to our favorite characters. This season is certainly more important than one and two, and for some characters, more than three. The overall stakes may seem smaller, but the personal stakes are bigger.
I called it as soon as Holden was unaffected. I was like "They had him give himself the radiation meds on-screen this season so I knew it would come into play."
The Protomolecule wouldn't know about life that developed on Illus since the Builders were wiped out, so I wouldn't think Proto-Miller was doing anything to help him. Earther voters wouldn't have cared about the Belter deaths, Gao wouldn't even have mentioned it, and it could have been claimed a victory long enough to get through the election. But the voters would care about the UN Marine deaths. As Avasarala had said earlier, having Marco's head on a spike is what she needed for her campaign, and that's the only reason she went for the chance to get her hands on Marco, dead or alive. Except for the Protomolecule machines (which we the audience know it's because of the Protomolecule on the Roci), Illus hasn't proven more dangerous than Earth. There are plenty of deadly slugs and microbes on Earth.
Was Marco ever aboard the Pizzouza? The image of him was supplied by someone with one of those camera-eye implants. Maybe it was doctored. Marco could have rigged the drive to blow on command, but the drive was taken out by a railgun round. But Marco doesn't do anything without a backup plan. Anticipates a boarding action, rigs a mining nuke in the cargo bay to a heart monitor worn by someone among the passengers. Doesn't transfer to a ship, just puts on a suit and dives out an airlock. Puts himself on the drift with no active beacon, the UN Navy doesn't even notice him. Once they board, it's just a matter of time until some dogface gets trigger happy. Boom. Thus ends the treaty, and Crisjen's career with it, and Marco's vow to the factions to be a good little boy until the Inners inevitably break the treaty. A shipful of Belters incinerated by Inners for no apparent reason. And so it begins. Where did the killer slugs come from? Slugs are soil-dwellers, but the soil is underwater at the moment. They found their way into the ruins through the root infiltrates that Miller originally dragged Holden out of bed to get rid of. Since then they've been climbing to stay ahead of the flooding waters. The slugs actually represent a couple of business opportunities. As an exotic alien sweetmeat (properly cooked or chemically treated to neutralize the toxin) exported to earth as a delicacy. Or, as a weapon. On a world practically made of lithium, but deficient in sulfur and saltpeter, eventually there's going to be a gunpowder shortage. Bullets will be a thing of the past. The murder industry will have to limp along with modified slingshots using toxic gastropods as ammo. The term "slug-throwers" will take on a whole new meaning.
5:08 If you rewatch that scene you would see the guard that trapped Bobbie was lying on the floor , all tied up. Bobbie's criminal "friends" stopped the guard and rescued her.
After the Expanse, I watched For all Mankind and See on Apple tv. I think you really would enjoy both, maybe more See. They're both great hard science fiction shows.
Once again another awesome reaction ladies! This is the first time I saw fear in Amos, shocked me as well! Him trying to help that young boy was a nice pickup from you! I personally thought Chrisjen made the right call, but there is more playing out here than she knew! Why is Holden immune? You have some very interesting theories, let's see how it plays out! Can't wait for the next one!
About the slugs. In the books they get into much more depth of the perils of rushing into an alien world with life that we don't understand. Slugs are an example of that.
While everyone else is offering up suggestions for new series to react to, here are mine: There are a couple of older series few if any have reacted to. "Person Of Interest" (5 seasons), which is modern-day sci-fi dealing with AI and the growing total surveillance state. Or "Heroes" (3 seasons), a modern day urban fantasy revolving around normal people spontaneously developing super-powers. And "The Middleman" (1 season) tongue-in-cheek comedy fantasy adventure about a secret hero organization and it's newest apprentice.
Have you guys seen HBO's Rome? It's kind older than a lot of the stuff you guys have watched, but it's great. It reminds me of the better seasons of Game of Thrones, has some great characters, though it's got even more nudity that Game of Thrones.
You ladies should consider watching the Black Sails series. IMO it's the second best show out there, after The Expanse. Breaking Bad takes third place.
I'm a huge sci fi nerd so that's why The Expanse gets first place from me. I will say though - noone has, nor ever will, beat the intro for Black Sails.
For a fairly short series, I'd recommend Travelers on Netflix. It's a very smart and different take on time travel. There are only three seasons, and it's got a satisfactory series finale.
Want something good to watch and react to? Justified (6s), Severance (1s), Fleabag (2s), Counterpart (2s), Westworld (4s) , Band of Brothers (1s).Honestly, you can't miss. Love your reactions btw.
I *hate* that the show snuck this money motivation for Murtry into the show. That was not part of him in the books, he really thought he was doing the right thing and protecting his people. One of the best things about The Expanse is you can understand every villain, you can look at it from every antagonists viewpoint and see how they think they're the hero of their own story. The whole 1% if the Lithium take was just kind of dumb. Thankfully they kind of ignore it from here out.
What could possibly be in his system.......😎This isn't a 'planet' as what we think of as planets.......but you probably realized this already.......it is an answer to a question that many book and show watches have....but don't realize they have the answer.....it can take a few watches/discussions with fans that have pieced to together that clues. Next episode completes the answer to what happened to 'Amos' as a kid........hints have been laid out of the previous seasons/episodes but this one finishes the whole picture.....if you understand what he says......and he has not felt fear.....even now......Peaches will answer what he is in season 6....but most fans don't believe it.
Can I suggest The Last Kingdom to be on the next poll? It's a great show that deserves more attention. Black Sails also that somebody already suggested somewhere in these comments
While I think Chrisjen only had bad options, she still picked the "high risk, high reward" one. Her other options were to destroy the ship right away or (which wasn't given by the general but it should have) give them a chance to surrender before taking such drastic measure.
They would still have to board to check for Marco, so the outcome would have been the same: The ship blows up with the marines on board and the destruction would have been blamed on the UN. Marco set the perfect trap in order to assign blame to the UN and they walked right into it. It would probably have been better to track the flight plan and arrest Marco when he had to disembark, but I guess the UN was afraid that he would be able to escape after docking.
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight As I said, both strike options were not very good, Avasarala was informed about lack of intel and lower odds for success, she should've went for option 3: call it off, but, she is eager to collect points for election = FAILED! 🤦♂️
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight For sure, but that's what I meant that she only had bad options. Buying more time would only mean they tried to play safe and avoid conflict but the outcome wouldn't be much different. The best shot would be to find a way to force them to dock and leave their ship, but that would also have different "high stakes, high reward".
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight Blowing up the ship would have been zero political risk. Earthers don't care at all about Belter lives. Even Gao expressed that attitude when she pointed out that the UN could get away with blowing up Belter colony ships at the Ring blockade, but not Earther colony ships. Avasarala could have simply blown up the ship and possibly solved the "Marco problem" with no political repercussions. But as she'd earlier said, she needed Marco's "head on a pike" to assure her re-election...that was pure politics.
@@kirkdarling4120 Since Marco's goal was to inflame anti-Earth sentiments in the Belt, he didn't care about Earth politics. This whole action was setup to gain him more followers in the Belt. That was the trap that Chrisjen walked into.
All due respect, Chrisjen could've(should've) fired a missile at that freighter instead of endangering the lives of those Marines who boarded it. That would've the most logical option, regardless if it wasn't the right thing to do.
Both assaul options weren't that good, partial intel, odds for success low(er), and Avasarala was informend and briefed on it, she should've called it off, till the next time..
This is hindsight bias talking. If she knew it was a death trap then yes but because she didn't know it was a death trap and because it didn't seem like a death trap, she went with a different option. Besides isn't intentionally nuking civilians a war crime? Not that it ever stopped the U.S government and their "war on terror"
@@BhlackBishop She was informed clearly: no actuall confirmed info about Marco being on the ship, UNMC has to board the ship to 1st find out if Marco is evem there and then try to catch h alive for what, she was also informed, chanses were low. And somehow, she still went with the mission, instead of calling it off due to lack of intel and low chances for success. Boy, she really was all in for that possible polls boost. Sad part is: biased audience can't or refuses to see that.
@@elvisibra .....that's literally what i just said. "she didn't know it was a death trap and it didn't seem like a death trap". Marco was not on that ship and he knew the UN would send marines to confirm his presence cause it was the "right thing to do" and so he rigged it to blow as soon as they arrive. Cartel bosses do it all time. Fake an anonymous tip sighting at a warehouse to which the cops are obligated to investigate and then they blow it up. Chrisjen didn't kill the Marines, Marco did. The bad guys no doubt think they're so smart but they always forget that they are the few compared to the many. You can't be a criminal forever.
@@elvisibra That was also an option, but one Chrisjen I doubt would've picked, because she was at risk of losing her position in the UN and trying to apprehend/kill a terrorist would give her a win. If both options weren't good, then they could've ordered the Marines to track the freighter to where it was going.
Ilus, the planet where "how much worse can this get" isn't a question, it's a challenge!
Still several episodes to go.
Ilus: "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!"
And people say they don't like this season. I love it. They just keep putting more and more stress on our characters so we see what they're made of. Arguably season 5 is even better for character development, but this season really does so much to our favorite characters. This season is certainly more important than one and two, and for some characters, more than three. The overall stakes may seem smaller, but the personal stakes are bigger.
How Lola pulled out the Radiation Meds idea out of her ass, is behind my comprehension! These girls are too damn smart! ; )
It may be a matter of how they effectively push each other to think more deeply about what they're seeing.
@@kirkdarling4120 Either way, it's impressive as hell how many accurate predictions that they've made over the course of this show!
I called it as soon as Holden was unaffected. I was like "They had him give himself the radiation meds on-screen this season so I knew it would come into play."
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps I can't claim to have called it, but as soon as Elvie realized it, I realized they'd shown us the Chekov's Gun.
The Protomolecule wouldn't know about life that developed on Illus since the Builders were wiped out, so I wouldn't think Proto-Miller was doing anything to help him.
Earther voters wouldn't have cared about the Belter deaths, Gao wouldn't even have mentioned it, and it could have been claimed a victory long enough to get through the election. But the voters would care about the UN Marine deaths. As Avasarala had said earlier, having Marco's head on a spike is what she needed for her campaign, and that's the only reason she went for the chance to get her hands on Marco, dead or alive.
Except for the Protomolecule machines (which we the audience know it's because of the Protomolecule on the Roci), Illus hasn't proven more dangerous than Earth. There are plenty of deadly slugs and microbes on Earth.
Why people run for the presidency is beyond me
@@BhlackBishop They're psychopaths who crave power.
When laws of physics stop to work, the only chance is to talk to Proto-Miller
bet
I'm sad to say, if things keep the way they are going with the climate. A lot of people will be fighting over water soon. And food. 😢😭
think there will be more water 😅
@@fishyjja unless salinization gets cheaper and easier, it isn't going to be enough.
"So were trapped under a Tsunami with limited supplies, going blind, and surrounded by killer slugs."
Was Marco ever aboard the Pizzouza? The image of him was supplied by someone with one of those camera-eye implants. Maybe it was doctored. Marco could have rigged the drive to blow on command, but the drive was taken out by a railgun round. But Marco doesn't do anything without a backup plan. Anticipates a boarding action, rigs a mining nuke in the cargo bay to a heart monitor worn by someone among the passengers. Doesn't transfer to a ship, just puts on a suit and dives out an airlock. Puts himself on the drift with no active beacon, the UN Navy doesn't even notice him. Once they board, it's just a matter of time until some dogface gets trigger happy. Boom. Thus ends the treaty, and Crisjen's career with it, and Marco's vow to the factions to be a good little boy until the Inners inevitably break the treaty. A shipful of Belters incinerated by Inners for no apparent reason. And so it begins.
Where did the killer slugs come from? Slugs are soil-dwellers, but the soil is underwater at the moment. They found their way into the ruins through the root infiltrates that Miller originally dragged Holden out of bed to get rid of. Since then they've been climbing to stay ahead of the flooding waters.
The slugs actually represent a couple of business opportunities. As an exotic alien sweetmeat (properly cooked or chemically treated to neutralize the toxin) exported to earth as a delicacy.
Or, as a weapon. On a world practically made of lithium, but deficient in sulfur and saltpeter, eventually there's going to be a gunpowder shortage. Bullets will be a thing of the past. The murder industry will have to limp along with modified slingshots using toxic gastropods as ammo. The term "slug-throwers" will take on a whole new meaning.
Season 4 should have been alternatively titled, The Calamity!
5:08 If you rewatch that scene you would see the guard that trapped Bobbie was lying on the floor , all tied up. Bobbie's criminal "friends" stopped the guard and rescued her.
You thought shit hit the fan last episode and then this episode happens.
Next episode: can't wait. You ladies crush it.
After the Expanse, I watched For all Mankind and See on Apple tv. I think you really would enjoy both, maybe more See. They're both great hard science fiction shows.
Once again another awesome reaction ladies!
This is the first time I saw fear in Amos, shocked me as well! Him trying to help that young boy was a nice pickup from you!
I personally thought Chrisjen made the right call, but there is more playing out here than she knew!
Why is Holden immune? You have some very interesting theories, let's see how it plays out!
Can't wait for the next one!
Everyday is a fine day for a reaction to 'The Expanse'. Cheers!
You should watch Firefly. 14 eps and a movie. An awesome and easy knockout.
Farscape. There is no sci-fi whos like it.
@@jrich749Watch both, but much faster to get through Firefly. Fun fact: When Firefly aired it was up against Farscape on Friday nights.
Didnt expect a Derry Girls shoutout on an Expanse video! Great stuff.
About the slugs. In the books they get into much more depth of the perils of rushing into an alien world with life that we don't understand. Slugs are an example of that.
Eh, no worse than the natural dangers any continent on Earth.
Basically if Australia was a whole planet
@@Demi_Purple LOL, PERFECT
While everyone else is offering up suggestions for new series to react to, here are mine: There are a couple of older series few if any have reacted to. "Person Of Interest" (5 seasons), which is modern-day sci-fi dealing with AI and the growing total surveillance state. Or "Heroes" (3 seasons), a modern day urban fantasy revolving around normal people spontaneously developing super-powers. And "The Middleman" (1 season) tongue-in-cheek comedy fantasy adventure about a secret hero organization and it's newest apprentice.
LOVE THE DEATH SLUGS! The fun just keeps piling up on Ilus and Chrisjen did fall for the trap. Not goigng to look good for her.
I wish they had the budget to show other alien life on the planet, like the mimic lizards that open their stomachs to grab their prey.
Love Derry Girls, genuinely curious how someone from outside Ireland thinks of it.
I thought it was Dairy Girls. Glad I saw your post.
Have you guys seen HBO's Rome? It's kind older than a lot of the stuff you guys have watched, but it's great. It reminds me of the better seasons of Game of Thrones, has some great characters, though it's got even more nudity that Game of Thrones.
"derry girls" is THE. BEST.
You ladies should consider watching the Black Sails series. IMO it's the second best show out there, after The Expanse. Breaking Bad takes third place.
I love the Expanse....but it's not better than Black Sails. Expanse S3 is but not overall.
I'm a huge sci fi nerd so that's why The Expanse gets first place from me. I will say though - noone has, nor ever will, beat the intro for Black Sails.
I wonder if they'd like Mr. Robot. Or Black Sails.
For a fairly short series, I'd recommend Travelers on Netflix. It's a very smart and different take on time travel. There are only three seasons, and it's got a satisfactory series finale.
I second that recommendation. Travelers is a very underrated and overlooked show.
Want something good to watch and react to? Justified (6s), Severance (1s), Fleabag (2s), Counterpart (2s), Westworld (4s) , Band of Brothers (1s).Honestly, you can't miss. Love your reactions btw.
If you haven’t seen Grimm, I think you would love the close-knit group of core characters in that one. My love for Monroe knows no bounds. Oh, and Wu!
I *hate* that the show snuck this money motivation for Murtry into the show. That was not part of him in the books, he really thought he was doing the right thing and protecting his people. One of the best things about The Expanse is you can understand every villain, you can look at it from every antagonists viewpoint and see how they think they're the hero of their own story. The whole 1% if the Lithium take was just kind of dumb.
Thankfully they kind of ignore it from here out.
Please watch Dark, it’s such a good sci-fi show! You will cry many times lol.
Great reaction.👌😊
Them being stuck in the cave with all the deadly shit... 😁
Wait until the centipedes show up.
Wow. You've already seen the following episode so I can say that's some spot on guesses! 😧
I want to throw Mr Robot in the ring to watch after this show.
What could possibly be in his system.......😎This isn't a 'planet' as what we think of as planets.......but you probably realized this already.......it is an answer to a question that many book and show watches have....but don't realize they have the answer.....it can take a few watches/discussions with fans that have pieced to together that clues.
Next episode completes the answer to what happened to 'Amos' as a kid........hints have been laid out of the previous seasons/episodes but this one finishes the whole picture.....if you understand what he says......and he has not felt fear.....even now......Peaches will answer what he is in season 6....but most fans don't believe it.
Can I suggest The Last Kingdom to be on the next poll? It's a great show that deserves more attention. Black Sails also that somebody already suggested somewhere in these comments
is not in serbia 30+ C? why blankets lol
that air conditioner must be very good because they always use them
Violet ever garden
Girl on the left looks like Alex Coal.
I know I should do this for an anime reaction video, but I think you should react to "Tower Of God" anime.
While I think Chrisjen only had bad options, she still picked the "high risk, high reward" one. Her other options were to destroy the ship right away or (which wasn't given by the general but it should have) give them a chance to surrender before taking such drastic measure.
They would still have to board to check for Marco, so the outcome would have been the same: The ship blows up with the marines on board and the destruction would have been blamed on the UN. Marco set the perfect trap in order to assign blame to the UN and they walked right into it. It would probably have been better to track the flight plan and arrest Marco when he had to disembark, but I guess the UN was afraid that he would be able to escape after docking.
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight As I said, both strike options were not very good, Avasarala was informed about lack of intel and lower odds for success, she should've went for option 3: call it off, but, she is eager to collect points for election = FAILED! 🤦♂️
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight For sure, but that's what I meant that she only had bad options. Buying more time would only mean they tried to play safe and avoid conflict but the outcome wouldn't be much different. The best shot would be to find a way to force them to dock and leave their ship, but that would also have different "high stakes, high reward".
@@YouHaventSeenMeRight Blowing up the ship would have been zero political risk. Earthers don't care at all about Belter lives. Even Gao expressed that attitude when she pointed out that the UN could get away with blowing up Belter colony ships at the Ring blockade, but not Earther colony ships. Avasarala could have simply blown up the ship and possibly solved the "Marco problem" with no political repercussions. But as she'd earlier said, she needed Marco's "head on a pike" to assure her re-election...that was pure politics.
@@kirkdarling4120 Since Marco's goal was to inflame anti-Earth sentiments in the Belt, he didn't care about Earth politics. This whole action was setup to gain him more followers in the Belt. That was the trap that Chrisjen walked into.
Watch Made In Abyss!!!!
Can you watch Violet Evergarden reaction?
🥰🥰
Milena is so beautiful
Watch Demon Slayer!
Please...
Someone tell them!
All due respect, Chrisjen could've(should've) fired a missile at that freighter instead of endangering the lives of those Marines who boarded it. That would've the most logical option, regardless if it wasn't the right thing to do.
Both assaul options weren't that good, partial intel, odds for success low(er), and Avasarala was informend and briefed on it, she should've called it off, till the next time..
This is hindsight bias talking. If she knew it was a death trap then yes but because she didn't know it was a death trap and because it didn't seem like a death trap, she went with a different option. Besides isn't intentionally nuking civilians a war crime? Not that it ever stopped the U.S government and their "war on terror"
@@BhlackBishop She was informed clearly: no actuall confirmed info about Marco being on the ship, UNMC has to board the ship to 1st find out if Marco is evem there and then try to catch h alive for what, she was also informed, chanses were low. And somehow, she still went with the mission, instead of calling it off due to lack of intel and low chances for success. Boy, she really was all in for that possible polls boost. Sad part is: biased audience can't or refuses to see that.
@@elvisibra .....that's literally what i just said. "she didn't know it was a death trap and it didn't seem like a death trap". Marco was not on that ship and he knew the UN would send marines to confirm his presence cause it was the "right thing to do" and so he rigged it to blow as soon as they arrive. Cartel bosses do it all time. Fake an anonymous tip sighting at a warehouse to which the cops are obligated to investigate and then they blow it up. Chrisjen didn't kill the Marines, Marco did. The bad guys no doubt think they're so smart but they always forget that they are the few compared to the many. You can't be a criminal forever.
@@elvisibra That was also an option, but one Chrisjen I doubt would've picked, because she was at risk of losing her position in the UN and trying to apprehend/kill a terrorist would give her a win. If both options weren't good, then they could've ordered the Marines to track the freighter to where it was going.
Demon slayer when?
They don't really touch on it in the show, but book Elvie is SO thirsty for Holden