A Very Special Gypsy Flat Cart - Jack's Country
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- Jack Hargreaves said on Old Country that this cart was "probably the finest gypsy flat cart in the country" and it came up for sale at an auction in Reading along with some other very interesting carts and wagons. The video looks back at Jack Hargreaves visit to John Pickett who made the cart in Wiltshire for Sean Martin.
Also in the video I look at a rare poultry and game cart along with two beautifulGypsy wagons that also were for sale.
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About the Channel 4 television programmes "Old Country":
There were 60 programmes made over a period of three years and were produced by me Dave Knowles for Channel 4. They were the same format as Out of Town with Jack Hargreaves sitting in his shed. All the programmes were new.
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Back in 1983 I produced and edited a series with Jack Hargreaves for Channel 4 called Old Country. In one of the programmes Jack went to look at a flat cart being built by the well known wagon builder John Pickett. The cart which Jack described as "the finest flat cart in England" came up for sale late last year at Reading and I went along to have a look and make a film on the sale.
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I watched that yesterday. Fantastic film.
Seems a small amount for such an exquisite piece of workmanship. It a piece of art.
Yes it was far less than it was worth I am sure.
So many wonderful memories and at £7000 that man got himself a a one off piece of art that could never be replicated today.
2500 hours at £10 per hour = 25k he got an absolute bargain at £7000 😀
Used to watch Jack's programs with dad when I was a kid, they don't make tele worth watching nowadays. Sad really, a lot of knowledge and folk lore of those shows and their like will be lost to the next generations.👍🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇯🇪
I think the main problem is that TV producers think (quite wrongly) there is no audience for programmes like Out of Town or Old Country.
Beautiful Cart,! Well worth the price paid. I expected more for the craftsmanship. 🧡🧡💛💚
My old Dad was a cart painter he died in 1997. when he was young he worked for a firm in Chippenham Wiltshire known as Humphreys coachbuilders and painters. fancy lines painted on with a feather and a dolly stick. world war two that all ended sadly to say.
It is so sad craftsmen like your father are no longer around. I am always on the look out for the sort of people Jack met and many sadly no longer exist and their craftsmanship has not been carried on to the younger generations.
A piece of art and craftsmanship.
+susan brown Yes it certainly is a beautiful flat cart and I am so pleased it has and will be preserved.
I have just recently been introduced to Old Country and watched this episode not long ago. I remember wondering to myself what had become of the cart by now. What a fantastic thing.
Just watched this and then found that John Pickett has already passed on 2017 aged 56. What a craftsman!
His son is still alive and doing restoration work on caravans and I think carts.
Thank you so much for keeping Jack Hargreaves alive and fresh in my mind.
My father didn’t watch Television except for Panorama, early TV programmes like Hans and Lottie Hass and David Attenborough wildlife programmes, the news and later Southern news on ITV, Jack Hargreaves shows, originally the fishing programme and then ‘Out of Town ‘ and finally ‘Old Country’.. My father lived and worked in Poole Harbour all his life, save a spell in the Navy in the last war.
He was a hunting, shooting and fishing man, but when he was appointed the 1st National Trust Head Warden on Brownsea Island in 1961, because of the influence of Helen Brotherton and his position as Head Warden, he gave up punt gunning.
Your programmes are bringing back happy memories and much pleasure Dave, many , many thanks.
+Chris Trinder Thank you for sharing that with us.
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. I would feel proud to own such a work of art.❤️
The cart is an icon to my mind and I am sure that Graham will look after it wonderfully for others to see in years to come.
£7k sounds like a bargain to me, a work of art.
Think you are probably right.
Probably! Did you hear the details? It was a steal for such hand crafted work.
Beautiful, I wonder if there is anyone around now who can produce such craftsmanship
Plenty of good wagon and cart builders around still. It's a thriving industry up North.
That's some serious research you did dave, thanks for bringing this to us its extremely satisfying to watch all the pieces of history come together and if all the fans of Jack had been present at the auction that cart would have gone in millions.
Thank you for your kind comments. One of the fun bits for me in making a documentary is learning from the research I do so it is pure enjoyment. Have you seen the last Jack Hargreaves video I have just put up last weekend? In the second part Jack visits the maker of the cart.
thanks for that takes me back John was a friend of mine back in the day. Plenty of wild stories of farmers in the chalk valley bikers and gypsies ;0)
From what I have heard I am sure you have. Do you know his son?
Thank you. Does anyone remember John Braybon (Jack) who was involved with making "Out of Town" and OU programmes?
He flew tugs and gliders for the Royal Naval flying club and played clarinet in my dads band (the late David Pope). I'd love to see the episode where Jack Hargreaves tested the Pilot Jack 17' cathedral hulled fishing boat off The Needles.
Hi Jonathan that is a name from the past. I did know him but at the moment can't remember exactly what involvement I had with him. I will try and get the brain into gear. As for the episode you are talking about I think it may have been lost like so many other ones.
Thanks Dave. Wonderful.
Thanks Jonathan
Wonderful skills, terrific films.Thank you, Dave.
My pleasure so pleased you enjoyed the programme.
I just found your channel. Subscribed. I'll be binge watching and letting the ads play.
+jeanne griffin I am so pleased you are enjoying the videos on my channel. Thank you for subscribing and letting the ads play. It does make such a difference and most people do not realise this.
Hi Dave! Earlier today, I viewed the Stow Fair video wherein you suggested this as follow up. I am so glad you filmed this and posted it. What a nice ending to the story, so to speak.
Thank you Terry. I was amazed when I saw it come up for sale and the auctioneers knew nothing about its history. It was good to know also it has gone to a good home where it will be treasured.
Hi Dave, thanks for this upload. Another fantastic short film.
I recall watching one of your films, which showed Jack getting cart wheels' rubber replaced......I can't find it!!! I've cart wheels that need this, and wanted to watch it again. Can you help?
Just subscribed!! Seriously grateful for your channel !! Priceless post !! Thanks so much for your passion in jack !!!! Fully support your channel 👍
Thank you for subscribing and your lovely comments. I have a lot more programmes for the Jack’s Country series waiting in pre-production but getting permissions these days to film is getting harder and harder.
Beautiful flasher would love to see it used again - Jack was right it did stand the test of time a testiment of the quality build and thank you for sharing this with us please stay safe and well sending regards x
Thank you for you kind words. I was amazed that after nearly 40 years it looked almost as good as the day it was built. It is a shame that John Pickett is no longer with us to see it.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker Would be nice if you could take some of the makers children to it to see if they remember and can tell you anything about it being made. I am sure they have a lot of memories that should be recorded so they are not lost to time, would also be interesting to see if any of them followed on and still make wagons. A lot of the traditional ways have been lost and it is films like Jacks and your that are the only way we will remember them
Hi Dave. Nice to see that cart is still around and found a new appreciative owner. It's so nice when it's possible to find such items that Jack brought to our attention all those years ago. As a huge fan of Out of Town I was amazed to learn I had missed all of your Old Country programs with Jack so bought the DVD set as soon as you made them available. Looking forward to receiving Simon's new set covering some of the restored OOT programs from Jack's film collection.
Thank you Mark. Graham who bought it I am sure is going to look after it with the obvious love it has had since made by John. I was hoping to go and film at his place to complete the film but unfortunately the virus has stopped that from happening. I have many more programmes on my list but all are a bit held up at the moment but hopefully they will happen if things start to get back to normality.
Hopefully, things will get back to something like normally over the summer and you can finish the film as well as get started on the other projects you have planned. My family have missed being able to attend local shows and events in our 1952 Triumph Mayflower, everything on hol
‘on hold’ that should have said!
A Lovely corrollery to jack's video!
A beautiful thing. Likely not appreciated now, but the time, effort and skill that went into making this are clear when you see it.
If I won the lottery I’d try to revive some of these old skills. Pay people so they could spend the years learning. The kind of thing some university or colleges should do instead of social studies and diversity courses.
Beautiful 😻
Thank you.
i have a pony size pickering float that was owned by jack in the sixties
How absolutely amazing how you "collided" with this cart again. History repeating itself perhaps and Jack looking down on the auction too.
Maybe if he was still around he would have bid for it especially as it went for a bargain price.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker Yes I thought it a mean price for the craftsmanship involved which few today would know how to make this beautiful item.
2,500 hours I think was said in making this "cart"
Didn't know that these carts being auctioned off.
You must have felt a bit nostalgic seeing an old friend.
I remember jack Hargreaves having a covered accommodation cart built by John Pickett showing weekly progress via a serious of programmes I taped all of them & three the old VHS tape away the other week
I don’t remember the series but he did film for Out of Town and Old Country a few times with John. Unfortunately John is no longer with us but his son Jasper is doing work on carts.
Fantastic video. I was actually wondering about this cart yesterday. The only disappointment with the video is it did not have the music that introduced Jack’s program
Thank you
My pleasure.
What an amazing work of art
Beautiful isn’t it. Having originally cut the Old Country programme on it I was amazed how original it was with very little damage.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker it's certainly been looked after Dave. I hope it continues to be preserved in the future. It's one of a kind.
I met the man who bought the cart and he is keeping in his private collection so I am sure it will be.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker that's great news Dave
David, do you have a Part Two for the Jack Hargreaves , Cart Painter ?
Jack did a number of programmes on cart painting I am therefore not too sure which one you are referring to.
im sure jack said 2500 hrs went into it
I wish you had said what the two vans made at auction....
The main reason I didn’t include them was neither vardo sold. I believe though one did sell privately afterwards.
Great video Dave. Do you know what the wagons sold for?
Regards,
Paul.
Thank you I am so glad you enjoyed it. The cart sold for £7,000 which I feel was a bargain but I am not sure talking to people there they knew its history or probably how much it cost to build.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker Hi Dave,
I meant the two wagons you were talking about at the beginning of the video.
@@SCCFORUM Neither were sold but a deal took place for the bow top after the sale but obviously it was privately negotiated between the vendor, auctioneers and the buyer
@@johnrussell9818 Thanks for the info John.👍🏻
Sorry misread your question. I see John has answered it. I didn't stay to the auction of the wagons but heard the news that John told you latter.
Does anyone build with this quality that people.can afford anymore....nope.
John Finneys Wagon
Bonny flasher
It sure is. I remember when I edited the Old Country programme seeing it and being amazed. Never did I think that one day I would be filming it being sold to a new owner.
Cool Content! Had to watch this before I sleep. Oh, and happy Save your hearing Day! :o
Thanks I am so glad you enjoyed it.
Ive always want to.at.least.see one.of these live....indont think there is one in the usa u.can see...much less purchase if your not a multi millionaire.
They buyer got himself a bargain. If he wanted to make a profit he could do worse than send a picture to Tyson Fury..
I think you are right the cart did not really fetch what it was worth but it has gone to a good home and now forms part of a small collection. I hope one day to film the collection as it is not too far from me.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker I guess it doesn't matter who owns it as long as it gets the respect it deserves and the maker is remembered for his craftsmanship for future generations to admire
@@chrismalcomson7640 My sentiments completely.
That 'piece of true craftsmanship and art' went Way , way too cheaply......
I had cut the film for Jack so had not seen it when it was being built so when I did I blown away. As you say it went too cheaply but it did go to a good home and one day I may go up and film it again.
bro, they called roma, not gypsies.
Thank you. Te problem is you can always offend someone and I try not to.
Roma, singular Rom, also called Romany, or Gypsies (considered pejorative), an ethnic group of traditionally itinerant people who originated in northern India but live in modern times worldwide, principally in Europe......don't worry Dave, you have not offended anyone.
Stop the woke crap Gypsy peoples have been called far worse so grow up! Barry!
The motor car enthuiast has been allowed to ruin the world. Pedestrians, horses, bicycles, get out of the way.