Eg civic Budget Big Brake Upgrade
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video I install Integra type r calipers, Mini Cooper 280mm rotors, stainless brake lines and various other necessary parts for the swap! If you have any questions dm me on instagram egchris92
Parts used for this set up:
Left and right Integra type r calipers- 141.40050 & 141.40049
04-08 Tsx Front brake pads
07+ Base Mini Cooper 280mm rotors
Ebay stainless brake lines
Aletheia Motorsports lug centric rings
This is the kind of content I need
Glad you enjoyed it!
THE MINI COOPER ROTORS ARE 280mm NOT 276!!!!! Sorry!
Mini Cooper rotors are a nice upgrade. I remember when I had the accord I used retro fit the projectors from it into the accord headlight housing
So the Mini Cooper has multiple uses for a Honda huh!
looking good bro keep dropping knowledge and keep us posted with the car can't wait you to do more street videos.
Love your channel, your videos on the civic eg is the most current and has most relevant info. Most DIY civic eg video are like 2+ years old. Very detail on your videos and where you get your parts
Thank for the input! Always happy to help
Happy I found your page! Thanks for doing these videos. I need to start recording myself and helping others
Thanks for checking it out! Always happy to help
Been using this setup on track for over a year now and love it. Note - you don’t need the lug-centric rings. When the wheel is bolted on, it applies force and the rotor doesn’t shift.
Glad you like it, doesn’t hurt to have the lug centric rings
Nice video. You got me thinking I need to start buying these parts to put bigger brakes on my crx... Then I remembered that I'm just going to buy a big brake kit😂 . I hate looking for parts .if I can buy a kit , I'm all for it.
In retrospec that might have been the best option
Those shims are exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much!
Awesome! Glad I could help
same here
This videos makes my raisin bran taste better!
Vtec not included
@@ChrisBuilt92 BRANtec?
Hell yeah chris!! Im gunna save this video for a future brake upgrade!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great set up, that is a nice upgrade. I love the blue. Keep it up
Thanks! I added the parts i used in descriptions bud
In the UK go to brake is the 282mm front discs and caliper off 5 door civic b18c4 found cheap on ebay OEM Honda parts
I messed up! I said 276! I meant to say 280mm. Ughh
Very good explanation and your eg is coming out nice 👍🏼
Thanks man!
I just bought a 92 hatch so im excited to to do this
Sweet! Let me know if you ever need help with something
I have rota slips 15x6.5 +35 offset and the rub on the callipers. Do you know the wheel spacer thickness and length of the extended studs I need so the wheels clear?
Best videos bro. Budget mid but super useful info
Appreciate it man
Love the content and a big help. Please keep doing more.
Glad I can help, unfortunately I do not own this car anymore. Still produce content for the other 2 cars I have
@@ChrisBuilt92 Aww that sucks but hey man wishing you the best we all gotta make our life choices.
I am kinda in the same boat too. Life is telling me to sell my eg hatch but I am trying to hold on as long as I can before I run out of funds for it.
@@mugensamurai doesn’t cost anything to keep it, I wanted a change in vehicles so I sold it and got my jdm toyota soarer.
@@ChrisBuilt92 LOL That's a nice upgrade. One of the coolest and underrated cars out there.
This is a great upgrade!
Thanks buddy
Hi Chris a little to your post, Q&A what is the rear rotor and caliper set up you're using on the EG. Thanks for the post.
Rear rotor and caliper was from an integra
hey Chris I have a 94 hatch Si non abs the spindles or knuckles are compatible with this calipers?
Nice man.. got the same setup..mines red calipers.. keep it coming...
Nice! Will do man
So for ur MC. I remember u have 90-91 correct. Is it off a civic EX coupe. Part number.. where did u buy from. Rock Auto is out... Found one on eBay.. I just wanna make sure.
Zero Gravity yes it’s a a ex 13/16” bore I got it from autozone I had to have it ordered though
Ain't that the same as our stock one..it's 13/16.. are u sure it's not 15/16 bore from a 90-91 EX..
Zero Gravity yes the 15/16 my bad
Is the proportions valve required on the 99-00 civic si? And bigger brake master cylinder upgrade for the type r rotors n calipers? also did you also upgrade to TypeR rear calipers n cooper rotors? 10.4inch?
Very informative, thank u. Could you highlight what wheels specs you r running, diameters, J and offset. Would give a better understanding of the possibility of installation.
Wheels are 16x7 with a +40 offset, wheel sits close to the caliper could make get away with a 35 mm offset with this setup, 15 inch wheels should fit as well
Post a link to those rings. I have this BBK set up but using NSX calipers to get more bite but even looking for rings. Once wheel mounted those rings do nothing but does keep it centered when wheel is off.
Can you make a list of the parts on your video ?
I'm going to upgrade the brakes on my eg , thanks ✌🏽😎
👀
So mini cooper rotors...accord, crv, odyssey or prelude calipers and tsx brakes???
That's it
You said you replaced the spindles to install these calipers. What difference do the spindles make? Calipers don't bolt up to the spindles? The brake calipers bolts on to the knuckle. Please explain.
The knuckle and spindle is one piece on the civic, the lower trim civics like the dx have a smaller brake setup and the caliper bracket on the spindle/knuckle is smaller then the integra, civic si or ex models. So to put a bigger caliper on you need to upgrade to a spindle with the bigger caliper mount
Will this work on both dx n ex models? I have a 99 dx coupe
Yes, do what the video says and you’ll be good
What wheel specs you recommend for this setup I have 15x8 25 offset doesn’t clear caliper?
That should work
How are them mini cooper rotors holding up months later after real life driving? I'm ready to upgrade Civic brakes for my 03 Civic.
They worked out great, recommend them to anyone looking to do a budget friendly setup
Hello! Thanks for the good information! I'm from Brazil and I'm upgrading my front brakes for CRV/integra calipers and mini cooper rotors, and in rear I'm swapping from drum brakes to disc brakes. My car is a 96 civic EX (sedan) with ABS. Do I need to change my prop valve too? I searched about this upgrade on civics with ABS but can't find any information... the prop valve on my car has only 4 connections (2 in, 2 out). Thanks!
You don't have to upgrade the prop valve, you just won't have a 50/50 distribution of fluid pressure
Good Video! Thank you
I have a quastion, how big must be rims to do this brake Setup?
You need to have atleast a 15 inch wheel, my wheels are 16x7 with a 40mm offset. It just barely clears. If your worries about hitting the calipers you can run a small wheel spacer
@@ChrisBuilt92 thx bro🤙
I have 15x7.5 rpf1 you think it would touch the caliper swap itr on eg ex with abs ?
Are the Ej1 ABS knuckles the same as the 94 integra? Or would i have to gonfind integra ones. Thank You
I believe they are the same
@@ChrisBuilt92 awesome brotha thank you, I just got to get the calipers then
Love the video just had a question I have eg spindles with 36 mm hubs is it worth the change to Integra even tho the brakes on eg are smaller and Integra is bigger but the car is like a have fun car any thoughts ??????
If your find with your cars braking and down plan on doing any crazy track days I would say you can just leave it
1990-91 civic master? Just for clarification
Yes
Sweet dude! how are the brakes holding up? do you feel there is more stopping power? Im looking to do a big brake kit on my k20 93 eg!
Everything has been working great! There is Big difference for sure. Definitely worth the upgrade
the best
Thanks
Hey Chris I just did this same brake setup on an Ek dx, do you experience any grinding sound at full steering lock. Also the brake pedal feels soft at first touch but then is stiff. Car stops great but was wondering if you may experience the same issues. Thanks Chris
No I have not had any issues with the brake setup, did you upgrade your master cylinder and proportional valve? As far as a grinding sound goes I would put it in the air and turn it full lock and see if it runs on anything.
Yes brand new oem type r master and my proportional valve is a 40/40 stock could be a wheel bearing but they are brand new. Story of my life. Thanks for the feedback bro
Austin Smith dang man, maybe try bleeding the brakes again? Hope your able to figure it out
If its lowered with with extended balled joints the tire rod with hit the wheel at full lock , or the balljoint with grind on the rotor full lock
Confused you say in video 276mm but in description wrote 280. What part number rotors did you use and what brand?
I corrected myself
Hey thanks for this. I have a 92 civic eg hatch si. Do I need the 94+ integra spindle hub assembly for this to work or can I use my si one? Other than that I plan to order everything else on your list
Si spindles should work since they use the bigger caliper
So I searched every comment to make sure you hadn’t answered already. Wondering if I can use integra 17CL14VN instead of 17CL15VN
Believe the 4VN are off of a GSR. Would like to use the Mini Cooper rotors. Thanks in advance
That would defeat the purpose of the upgrade, you can use those calipers but you wouldn’t need to run the Mini Cooper rotors. The reason you run the Mini Cooper rotors because itr rotors are 5 lug and and the Mini Cooper rotors are 4 lug and very close in size to the itr rotor
what do you use for a spare tire? thanks for the great video
Never had to use one
Loved ur video but i have a question i looked it the comment but didnt see anything about this would a legend dual piston caliper work with this set up insted of the type r calipers?
Thanks! I am not sure about the legend caliper setup. I know you will need the integra spindles still but not sure about the rotor and pads that you will need
Do you need change brake booster
No you can still use the stock one
Do you have to change the hub?
You don’t have to if your cool with having a 25 year old bearing
How would using better pads work just using tsk upgraded brakes
Tsx pads fit perfect for this setup. If you use a better pad like stoptech or something I’m sure it’ll make it even better
I'm wondering if this would be worth it on my EJ1. ("EG" coupe EX) as mine has the largest factory civicbrakes already, the 10.3" rotors.
I went with Brembo blank rotors, Hawk HPS pads and StopTech stainless braided lines and it made a huge difference, I did this at the same time as my rear disc conversion, same upgrades as the front to the rear.
I did not swap the prop valve, been daily driving it for 3 years since the brake upgrade and haven't noticed any issues.
Most EGs came with the 13/16 master cylinder but mine has the 7/8. I'm still thinking about getting a 91 Sedan EX master though as its 15/16.
Just now this week my rear pads are worn out after 3 yrs. I find it odd they went before the fronts did, fronts still at about 30% pad remaining.
So if anything I'm thinking the 4030 prop valve sends TOO MUCH fluid to the rear and the 4040 upgrade actually reduces fluid to rear.
Being that you already have the bigger spindle upgrading it would be very simple and cost less. As far as your rear wearing out before the front, that’s odd considering the front does most of the braking.
So I have a 95 EX with a bigger brakes. Now would it benefit me to switch to the mini Cooper front brake upgrade. Cuz I'm not sure what size rotors or anything are on the front of the 95 Ex
Thanks for the content. I'm doing a similar upgrade on a 1992 civic eg with no abs. Do I have to use a prop 40/40 with no abs or can one with abs fitting be used. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for checking it out! Non abs 40/40, I do believe the abs one is totally different.
@@ChrisBuilt92 okay thank you very much.
Was it 276mm rotors or 280mm that you used? I got 280 which are exactly 11inches but my bracket that holds the caliper won’t go on. I got it off an 98 accord.
11 inches, not sure what spindle the Accord uses, this is a setup for a civic/integra
Hi, can you make an update on the brake lines?
Car is sold, but never had an issue for the time they were on the car
Are all these parts compatible with the 94-01 Integra REAR disc brake conversion?
- 1993 Civic Hatch DX
No this is specifically for the front, the rear conversion is simple as taking a full rear trailing arm with the brakes from an integra and bolting them onto your civic
Did you have to get ex spindles and hubs? Or could you just use the dx spindles and hubs to upgrade the brakes. (I also have a dx so that's why I'm wondering) Very informational video, thank you.
Cannot use dx spindle and hub because the bigger calipers won’t bolt onto them, the mounting point is bigger on the ex and integra and allows for the bigger setup
@@ChrisBuilt92 Ok thank you thats what I thought, good thing I just replaced the ball joints on my dx spindles, guess ill wait until that or the bearings go to upgrade lol
@JZchris92 what year integra did you use the spindles from any help is appreciated I have everything except the spindles
@JZchris92
@@mannycuevas18 94-01 integra is bolt on to 92-95 civic, might be differences between trim like ls, or gsr
U think if I buy Mini Cooper slotted rotors instead regular Mini Cooper rotors will work?
Yes, as long as they are the right size
What part number is the spindle by any chance ? Do i have to switch out the hub for eg once i buy the spindles?
Don’t have a part number but any used 94-01 integra spindle will work. Doubt you can even get it new. I would get a brand new hub and bearing, the integra and eg share the same hub and bearing but don’t use the old one
Do you know if can still run 15 inch rims?
Yes, just gotta check your offset so it doesn't hit caliper
How long did the caliper last?
Idk but should last for the life of the vehicle unless something happens to it
what brake clips did you use? i removed my crv clips
Don’t remember
@@ChrisBuilt92 never mind I guess mines didn’t come with the crv clips had to buy em
You would of got ripped for those type r calipars, preludes, crvs, etc are the exact same calipar but 1/4 of the price then use 280mm Cooper rotor
I am well aware of this, I have the part numbers posted somewhere in the comment section.
hello what are the knuckle Thank you
They are from an 94-01 Acura integra
@@ChrisBuilt92 I finished buying them right now😂😂. Thank you
What master cylinder, proportioning valve, and booster did you use ? Do you have 4 wheel disc or only 2?
I have a 1995 ex coupe 1.6L SOHC VTEC
Pretty sure it's covered in the video
Well In your description you only listed pads rotors and calipers in parts used buddy…. Maybe update that
Hi. I have a question. Are you running the ITR brakes on front and GS-R brakes on rear? If so, how stable do you feel your car when you brake strongly from high speed (does the rear of the car tend to move side by side or shake)? Let´s say, about 80mph. I´d appreciate any information.
Itr front and civic si rear might be the same as integra rear but not sure. Never had an issue like that while breaking even at 100+. Maybe look into your suspension, I had a issue similar to that because my trailing arm bushings were broken
@@ChrisBuilt92 Thanks for your reply. I´m currently planning to install ITR front brakes on my Civic EX due to the brake fade caused by a quick temperature raise (relatively speaking) , and keep the GS-R or SI rear brakes that I´ve installed already, but, ITR rear brake parts are considerably bigger (especially the brake pads), and I´m concerned about the braking balance when cornering, that´s why. Oh well, I´ll try that setting and see what happens lol. I´m currently using energy bushings on trailing arm, and have no any stability issue btw.
Gotcha, maybe I misunderstood what you meant when you said it goes side to side. But no I haven’t had any issues like that
any reason not to change the brake booster? great video btw
Didn’t see a need for it to be honest, thanks man!
@@ChrisBuilt92 Any review video coming regarding the upgrade? Performance?
@@jona10silva I may have mentioned in a video but it’s been a while. I can tell you it’s well worth the upgrade. Factory dx brakes are so small this makes a nice difference
Could I use my stock calibers on this rotor? I work at oreillys so parts not a issue
Have to use he itr calipers on with this rotor to complete the setup. You will see he caliper cross reference to crvs and preludes
Do you have a part number for the master cylinder?
I don't but look up the year of the civic ex model and it should come up
Do you have a link for braided brake lines. I have a 94 honda del sol
www.ebay.com/itm/283974792621
What year integgy spindles ??
94-01 integra
How did the stainless lines hold up? Recommended or not?
Worked perfectly for the time I had the car
I was wondering if I kept my rear drums on my 90 EF hatch and did the bigger brakes upfront which prop. valve would I use?
You could probably get away with using the stock one
@@ChrisBuilt92 Would I need to upgrade my brake booster and master cylinder?
Booster will be more for pedal feel and I feel it’s not needed. Master cylinder would help push fluid out faster for better braking response. Since your keeping drums you should be fine
@@ChrisBuilt92 So I went to the junkyard and got the CR-V brakes and brackets, 15/16 master cylinder, ex spindles. Pretty much everything I need to swap out my brakes, I was wondering could I use the CR-V brake booster on my 90 EF hatch as well? I know you said it's more for pedal feel. Mine went out and have to replace it anyway so I was wondering if it'd fit, can't find a decent answer online. Thanks again
@@efnmadaboutcivics88 not sure about it fitting on the ef. But an eg booster will fit, if it’s the same or similar to a crv then I would say it would work also
Question, you need the ITR spindle for the front brakes? In order to use the itr calipers?
If you have a civic with the smaller set of spindles you need to run integra spindles in order for the itr caliper to bolt on. The civic dx and similar models the caliper bracket is smaller
egchris92 makes sense thank you, how’s the brakes holding up? Probably gonna use your video to do this brake setup on my EG
Andrew Castillo they work great! If you have questions I’m always happy to help
How are those $40 stainless lines? Thinking of grabbing them
Never had an issue with them, not sure if they are still this cheap on eBay anymore
Where did you get the shims for the wheel studs?
Alethia motor sports check them out on Instagram
Hey Chris. Awesome content and keep it up! These are remanufactured OEM honda calipers correct? How are the calipers holding up? Could you send me the link of where you got them from? I'm from a different country and looking to get these calipers. Any help you can give is appreciated. Hope your parts store does international shipping. Cheers and keep safe.
Thanks man! Appreciate you checking it out, not sure if they are reman. But they are new from a company named centric they make a lot of brake parts. I bought both sides from amazon. Everything has been working great since it was installed
Centric Parts 141.40049 Semi Loaded Friction Caliper www.amazon.com/dp/B000C08M4Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_kWcVoqVNOLeTJ
Centric 141.40050 Semi Loaded Caliper www.amazon.com/dp/B000C06JCG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_CQnjytBFnPNvJ
@@ChrisBuilt92 Thanks alot! Will definitely give these a look in.
Anytime man. Happy to help
I'm very curious to know how much $$ you spent compared to buying the Wildwood $450 big brake kit with the 4 piston calipers....
Well the majority of the cost for me was the spindles, proportional valve and master cylinder since I have a dx. all of these needed to be upgraded on mine. If you have a ex/si model than the wilwood kit might be a great upgrade. But even so you can save more money by getting some prelude, accord v6, or even legend calipers from the junkyard. I decided to use all new parts
I paid $300 for everything but if you feel the 150 extra is worth it go for it
What wheel hubs you went with?
Justin Jolly it was a hub/bearing set on amazon that had good reviews. I was asked the same question recently and when I went to look again they weren’t currently available
Do I absolutely need a 40 40 valve and master cylinder? I have a CX and on a budget
If you want the benefits of putting the bigger brakes than yes
egchris92 so I would see no difference if I don’t? Btw I have drums in the back
@@twixitt46 cosmetic difference yes, but youll need more fluid and hydraulic pressure from the mc and prop valve to be able to get the most out of the new calipers.
What brake booster are you running?
Factory booster
I believe it’s 280mm
Are those rotors a straight swap?
For this setup they are, adding the lugcentric rings helps keep it centered
Do u know if this set up would fit a Crx.
I am sure there is a way, I’m just not very familiar with the crx. Sorry
I don’t get it, if your using itr calipers and the spindles, why are u using Mini Cooper rotors and rsx pads, why can’t u just use all integra parts, or all Mini Cooper parts, or all rsx. Why do u have to mix it all up like that
Intergra type r is 5 lug, most people are using a 4 lug setup so that’s where the Mini Cooper rotor comes in, the rotor is a different size then what the itr rotor would be so that’s why we use the tsx pads. You could use an entire integra type r setup but that would require you to run 5 lug wheels, plus itr setups are big money. Hence why this is a “budget brake setup “
Why two different part numbers for the brake calipers?
For a left and right side caliper
egchris92 they’re two dif sizes? I just bought two 141.0049 calipers will it not work on the front both sides?
egchris92 btw thank you for helping and responding
No they will not. They are same size but the way it mounts is different for each side
Also these are the same calipers as the 01 crv so if you need the spindles you’ll might as she’ll get the whole set up
How are the brake lines holding up ??:)
No issues what so ever
Hi friend, you have idea higth capasity for use this calliper, i have 15" i can used?
15 will work, the offset is what’s important for this setup
@@ChrisBuilt92 wheels 15x7 et20 ?
@@rafaelalbarracin8116 mine were a +40 and it was close
I have 14x5.5 +45 offset oe alloys from an 88-89 Accord, they fit over my 10.3" EX coupe brakes, I wonder if 11" Mini rotors will be too big
450 for front and rear or just front?
This for complete front setup
I can't find the right Brake pads cloud you please send me a link or the Part Numbers
Power Stop 17-787, Z17 Front Ceramic Brake Pads with Hardware www.amazon.com/dp/B007KFMJ48/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_JEGPCME8GDS8FR7HP1M5
Thx😁
Yo chris cant find u on instagram got a question for u
Is this only eg or can this work on ek
This will work same for the ek, just gotta confirm to see if you already have the bigger brakes like a ex or si I believe. If not just run the integra spindles like I did
What magwheels did you put on the car?
16x7 +40 yea it cleared the caliper, gotta be careful with most of the oem wheels, could probably use a spacer if needed
@@ChrisBuilt92 thank you mate!
Subscribed!! 😎
@@gamerdiydad appreciate it
Hello, what is the size of the rear discs? Thank you
Rear disk is standard integra rear disk size
Thank you, and can i do only the front for now and upgrade to discs in the rear later on?
My plan is to put the 280 in the front and upgrade the master cylinder, and keep the drum in the back for now because i cant afford to do all at once , a i need to replace the dront brakes because they are warped
Also, i heard that the 99 2.0 crv calipers are the same as the integra, do you know if its true?in my country they are alot cheaper than integras
@@rafael8298 yes this is true it shares the same part number
Am new to this and all the info is great I have purchased everything but might be a dumb question but am lost on what year integra spindles was used any help would be a huge help thank you
94-01 integra!
Hey, do these brakes fit with 15" wheels?
Yes, but will depend on the offset. Not sure if it will fit with a factory rim though
@@ChrisBuilt92 i have some 15x7 rota circuit 10, hopefully it clears them. The 40/40 prop valve has to be from a RS integra?
It doesn’t have to be from a rs, but the higher end integras came with abs and a different prop valve
Very nice job on the brakes. As for football I dont care to watch China owned sports.
Thanks man, just one of those things to do with the family is all
I have 95 civic ex what I need for that .
Measure the rotor and see if you already have the bigger spindle
WHAT BIGGER SPINDLE
DONT THINK SO STOCK 1995 CIVIC EX HUBS
@@wahkitng4505 integra spindles, check the rotor some ex came with the bigger spindles
HOW MUCH YOU SPEND ON That setup
silly question: does it clear the 15inch wheels?
I think it’ll fit but will require a spacer. Best to go with a 16 to be safe
Mini r56 rotor should be 280mm not 276.
You right, I do have the 280mm
why didn't you just use ls integra rotors ? lol seems like a pint in the ass your way
Because Ls integra rotors are too small and wouldn’t work with the type r calipers
Hey Chris, I have a 97 Ek hatch DX, would love to do this same setup, question, when buying/upgrading the 40/40 proportionate valve and the master cylinder, which ones should I get? I see that you bought a 15/16 from a 90-91 for your EG setup, can I use that same part for my ek ?
From my understanding the ek uses the same prop valve on all the models even the si, the master cylinder may be a different size though. Let me look and I’ll see what I come up with
99-00 Si master cylinder, prop valve is the same.
So going forward with this setup your saying I’m good to use 99-00 Si port Valve and master cylinder correct?
The prop valve is the same for all models on a ek the master cylinder is bigger on a si model so you can use that
Another question, i bought used 99 si spindles/knuckle for my 97 DX hatch to do break upgrade, haven’t installed them yet, plan on also buying the same calipers you bought , if I wanna upgrade brake lines to stainless steel, do I need to upgrade to Si’s break lines/stainless steel to fit caliper or can I use my DX break line? Is there differences in brake lines when connecting them to caliper?