It's Worse than we Thought | Step 347

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Komentáře • 954

  • @shekharmoona544
    @shekharmoona544 Před rokem +142

    Old sailors be like: They don't make them like they used to.
    Uma crew: Thank God they don't.

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +31

      There’s really nothing better than a good vacuum infused sandwich. It’s pretty incredible actually.

    • @darkhorsegarage
      @darkhorsegarage Před rokem +4

      @@SailingUma Depends on Core material used and what type or resin they used.

    • @jakobtheinventor
      @jakobtheinventor Před rokem +7

      Instead of making multiple smaller bulkheads consider making a sandwich with foam on the hull sides. A couple layers of bi-axe fibermats on on top of the foam and you will have given it such more stiffness and ability to distribute the forces on the hull. And at the same time, effectively insulating it against the cooling water outside.

    • @vandacrewsailing
      @vandacrewsailing Před rokem +1

      my boat is the only boat you say that about and mean it. solid glass through and through

  • @dieteroberkofler4342
    @dieteroberkofler4342 Před rokem +276

    Watching this episode felt like being back at when it all started. Love it.

  • @BoatDawg
    @BoatDawg Před rokem +193

    This is what turned me on to your channel. Taking control and doing it yourself in your own unique creative way.

  • @marktaylor484
    @marktaylor484 Před rokem +28

    You must be eternally grateful to her for carrying you both safely across the sea's and ocean, now having the understanding of how fragile your day's have been...

  • @victorvelazquez8187
    @victorvelazquez8187 Před rokem +178

    You guys are legendary... like, you have people sailing state-of-the-art brand-new boats and ending up stuck in reefs and sandbars... and you just casually took this rescue project of a boat and took it around the Caribbean, across the Atlantic, up to the Arctic and into the Med. Amazing, and great job!

    • @Jack-yl7cc
      @Jack-yl7cc Před rokem +8

      Money can't buy common sense which is a bit of shame considering how truly rare a bit of common sense really is. On the plus side it's a lot easier to win a Darwin award out on the ocean so at least some of those people who didn't hire people to protect themselves from their own blunders don't tend to cause problems for others for very long.

    • @carenclemmons5002
      @carenclemmons5002 Před rokem +3

      @@Jack-yl7cc Yep, sadly= sink or swim

    • @777rogerf
      @777rogerf Před rokem +6

      @@Jack-yl7cc They have common sense and a lot more. They are both professional architects, and the training includes a "minor" in engineering if I am not mistaken. That gives them a good basis, but there is no substitute for talent, artistry, and the capacity and willingness to take on tough jobs and amaze us with great results.

    • @raynic1173
      @raynic1173 Před rokem +2

      @@777rogerf just for clarity, as far as I understand it, they are not professional architects...they are university architectural graduates. They never held paying jobs as architects or have held any professional licenses, which require state exams or RAs. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the both of them graduated near the top of class and when it's time, will become professional architects. I have friends who have did this exact thing, 20 yrs. ago. Graduated architectural college, then spent 5 yrs. circumnavigating, then went to work professionally.

    • @robertdeland3390
      @robertdeland3390 Před 11 měsíci

      @@777rogerf yes! They are an impressive.

  • @hobimizyelken8725
    @hobimizyelken8725 Před rokem +41

    Considering the mileage you completed with Uma so far, I understand old fiberglass boats are really stronger than I assume. With all the problems in her body, she carried you along oceans and northern seas. Unbelievable performance of yours and your boat…

  • @wanderingontheway7303
    @wanderingontheway7303 Před rokem +81

    This is kind of fun, guys - it feels a bit like the early episodes again. Excited to see what happens!

  • @AnnInghamlife-goals
    @AnnInghamlife-goals Před rokem +65

    Its horrifying!!! Its surprising she has held together a well as she has. When you said she wasn't sea worthy for more windy sailing I was surprised. Now I see what you mean. She is going to be so solid when done.

  • @rontro7072
    @rontro7072 Před rokem +4

    If you fit the bulkheads hard up against the hull and then glass both sides, you may find you have witness lines on the outside of the hull due to shrinkage of the GRP . I used to leave a 10 mil gap between bulkhead and hull and fill with foam, then laminate both sides. not all bulkheads need to be structural on a boat of that size. Some are just dividers. I only used two glass dividers on one side, but the gaps on yours are extreme. Made GRP boats for many many years. Wishing you the best of luck with your project.

  • @kiyotomiyazaki1668
    @kiyotomiyazaki1668 Před rokem +72

    I bet like 95% of sailboat owners would have given up the boat and would've gone to buy another one at the time of the last episode. But because you are Uma, not only going to fix it from the very scratch, but you look like you are having fun doing it with no intimidation whatsoever. And this is why you guys are our heroes!

    • @tittyskillet3413
      @tittyskillet3413 Před rokem +16

      Im in the 95%. Ida bought a newer boat

    • @antonioarroyas7662
      @antonioarroyas7662 Před rokem +12

      The boat is trashed, they keep dumping money and time into a floating piece of garbage.

    • @aadams8419
      @aadams8419 Před rokem +6

      I love that they’re willing to try hard things, but this boat is not worth it.

    • @Kahuna_550
      @Kahuna_550 Před rokem +8

      Got to keep emotions out of decisions like this, it's a financial disaster.

    • @robertdeland3390
      @robertdeland3390 Před rokem +4

      ​@@Kahuna_550 No boat would measure up to their standards. With their knowledge, and their labor, they will have an excellent boat when finished. My mind has been changed. At first I thought it was time for UMA II. I no longer believe that way.

  • @Dustmadeout
    @Dustmadeout Před rokem +22

    Uma! The gap between bulkheads and the hull is there on purpose! It's done like that on most older sailboats and the reason is to stop bulkhead protruding from the outside and forming crack nets. Google it.

  • @brianballard1729
    @brianballard1729 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Praise and admiration. Having built a 40 ft catamaran (suffering 2 near death experiences - the suspect being the epoxy hardener) and admiring the excellent design from Bob Oram for the "39C" kit that I assembled (supervised as the doctors decreed), that I should always remain several metres upwind during any prep and assembly. (as the next time would be fatal...) Be careful, you are too beautiful and wonderful to suffer a system shut-down. God bless, Peace Love and Light

  • @patrickhackett3878
    @patrickhackett3878 Před rokem +24

    This is a great time to add additional laminations to the interior of the hull.

  • @rorychivers8769
    @rorychivers8769 Před rokem +12

    Uma really is going to be getting the full health spa treatment... she couldn't possibly have wished for two more caring owners.
    I know you guys probably aren't having the most fun time just this minute, but dear lord is it satisfying watching you rip everything out the last few videos. I literally cannot wait to see you two pour 10 years of experience and hindsight and ideas back into this boat.
    I don't know if you've ever seen how a dog or cat reacts when you start digging holes in the garden, but that is about my level of excitement.

  • @kikinwilson9743
    @kikinwilson9743 Před rokem +2

    I'm not sure why but I love to watch boat projects more than the sailing. Especially how Dan explains everything

  • @thomasduby728
    @thomasduby728 Před rokem +19

    For a boat that lasted 51 years, it seems like it lasted pretty well. It’s pretty hard to deconstruct the design constraints and reasons why things were done as they were. But it’s definitely time for a complete refurb! : ) All the best on your adventure! Pretty exciting stuff.

    • @thomasduby728
      @thomasduby728 Před rokem +1

      I did watch the video from a month ago, and you did communicate a lot of great thoughts on age, design intent, and the original use models. Great that you’ll be making the most of that material rather than landfilling uma somewhere.

  • @maxime41418
    @maxime41418 Před rokem +37

    You've made it last 8 years already, so nothing to be ashamed of. You rock and woaa what a project .

  • @TheAtma50
    @TheAtma50 Před rokem +15

    Deja Vu ... Knowing what you know now about Umas structure, would you have taken on the journeys like the Atlantic crossings or the Arctic Circle in her? With all the improvements you have previously made to Uma, she is going to be one Chic Girl by the time you finish this round of upgrades!! ... Boat builders and designers the world over I'm sure will be watching closely to what innovations & improvements D&K come up with. Stay Safe & Fair Winds!!

  • @mikestone234
    @mikestone234 Před rokem +1

    The reason the bulkheads are NOT butted directly on the hull, is because it causes stress risers on the hull. There is some triangular structural foam pieces, that keep the bulkhead off the hull, and allow you to put a couple of layers , on each side, to bond the bulkhead to the hull. This allows the hull to be flexible, without stress risers.

  • @Texas240
    @Texas240 Před rokem +1

    5:25 Fun fact, "high end" boats, like from Beneteau, in the Great Recession era (2008-2009), had issues like this out of the factory as corners were cut.
    This type of thing is why I advocated for spending the money and effort on your current boat "that isn't worth it" because newer boats will have issues that you'd have to deal with, put up with, or suffer through since the money to fix the issues was spent on the newer boat.
    Anyone advocating for a newer boat doesn't understand that a boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into, regardless of it being newer than your 50 year old trouper.

  • @snowgoose44
    @snowgoose44 Před rokem +7

    These boats were designed and built as local club racer/cruisers. Certainly, neither Bill Shaw or the folks at Pearson expected them to be charging across the ocean at all, much less 50 years later. As such, it is a testament to the builder that, even with the construction decisions made at the time (non-structural interior elements lightly tabbed in) these 70s-vintage boats are doing remarkable things. It is also wonderful that people are making an effort to keep these things alive and, as here, making it better than original for the hard sailing they do.
    I sailed a sister ship 3000 miles between Seattle and Hawaii when the boat was only 4 years old. Strong, fast and a great sea boat. The same goes for the Pearson 39 I owned for many years and many miles.

    • @cheeseburger9232
      @cheeseburger9232 Před rokem

      You think it will be good for the boat to built it back
      Like Dan talked about he did say the hull is really thin . You think over strengthen will hurt the boat? Is it good for the boat to be able to flex a little?

  • @ghost307
    @ghost307 Před rokem +8

    Any retroactive nightmares now that you see what you sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in?
    Uma will be stronger and even more beautiful when you get done.

  • @richsander1118
    @richsander1118 Před rokem +2

    A couple of months, that was the funniest thing you said all video!

  • @FernandaFoertter
    @FernandaFoertter Před rokem +2

    My kiddo and I really appreciate that the work is 50/50. So many channels where only dudes do the demo/build work and the women are left to sand in a bikini. You’re a sailing role model for us Kika! ⛵️

  • @gsh341
    @gsh341 Před rokem +4

    Not only am I excited to see the renovation, I'm also SUPER stoked to see what Uma sails like AFTER the work is done.

  • @AccidentalSailorGirl
    @AccidentalSailorGirl Před rokem +8

    We found Blossom completely gutted and were so glad to have already started with a bare hull. It’s hard work tearing out, but at least you have patterns. 😁👍

  • @maxrudder6091
    @maxrudder6091 Před rokem +2

    Two things: 1) This is making me rethink Pearson as a blue water cruiser; and 2) as long as you're ripping out the vee berth and the bulkhead is larger on the port side, why not move the storage to the starboard side and put in a double berth on the port side?

  • @hebelson444
    @hebelson444 Před rokem +1

    I've never seen anyone so committed to rebuilding a boat while in the water. It's like the joke about a retired surgeon who decided to become a mechanic and for his final mechanic's exam changed a car's spark plugs through the muffler. 🤣

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +2

      Its actually much better to do this in the water while the boat is in her natural shape.

  • @bradbrown9685
    @bradbrown9685 Před rokem +4

    Brings me back to when you first started this adventure ❤

  • @teedub1990
    @teedub1990 Před rokem

    I'm impressed that you sailed Uma in such challenging waters for an extended period of time with the lack of structural integrity and had no problems. Just amazing.

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +2

      All boats have limits. As long as you sail within them, you’re fine. We never pushed the boat too hard and avoided the worst of weather.

  • @Texas240
    @Texas240 Před rokem +1

    11:04 all the hard sailing this old boat has seen with its less than stellar workmanship makes your voyages even more impressive.

  • @hallociao7527
    @hallociao7527 Před rokem +5

    you revived the spirit of „Sailing Uma“ with this big project. Love it!

  • @eugenio1542
    @eugenio1542 Před rokem +5

    Yous probably had opportunities for a bigger and better boat but decided to keep Uma and resurrect. Much respect and love all around..☝️❤️✌️🌍🙏

  • @mySeaPrince_
    @mySeaPrince_ Před rokem +1

    Have you looked into using foam core and glassing over that?
    It would be a structural second layer and insulation... add a gell coat and you don't need another covering like ply etc.. also wipe clean.
    Regarding the bed base.. I did 3"x1" with 1" gap slats .. you could go 4"x1" with 1" gaps like a futon.. then access underneath from the front which is left open for ventilation.. that's how I have done mine.. using oak.. actually from Windsor park.. they were bits that didn't make the grade for a building with a wavey roof in 2005 ish.
    I did think if no one there will allow you to work on the boat outside when craned out there.. then do all the interior there and then go sailing till you find somewhere.
    Regards from
    Bella 🐈 & Mark.

  • @oldsailor9022
    @oldsailor9022 Před rokem +2

    Going through this process with my 60 year old Van de Stadt Pionier. Feeling pretty smug about the amazing quality of the original work. Bulkheads in 20mm high quality ply. All tabbing intact.

  • @Reality_TV
    @Reality_TV Před rokem +3

    This is great! I don't care what anyone else says; there is nothing like ripping everything out and putting it in yourself because then you KNOW how well something is done! I just love seeing this because you can retrofit the way you feel is best without worrying about if the job is done right! You two need to add the buy you a coffee link thing to these videos because I would SO buy you a coffee while I'm sitting back sipping tea & watching you guys work!

  • @robertmusula7764
    @robertmusula7764 Před rokem +6

    The refit phase you have embarked on is so captivating and anxiety packed.Would it be too much to ask for a weekly brief so that we can journey together?
    Your sailing journey can only be described as "from novice to experts."
    Cheers!🎉

  • @onenuttybuddy
    @onenuttybuddy Před rokem +1

    Hey guys, I'm just tuning into the channel. You have made the right call removing everything down to the hull. Q1: Are you going to remove the bulkhead between the living quarters and the V-birth? Q2: I know the boat has two dimples in the hull. How are you going to get the dimples out of the hull? Q3: What about aft of the kitchen; are you going to tear that out too? I love watching demos and rebuilds. Doing demos while filming must be a real challenge? As of typing these letters, I am now a Patreon too. Take care!

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +2

      1: yes
      2: glass and filler
      3: most of the electronics in the cockpit lockers will be re done too.

    • @onenuttybuddy
      @onenuttybuddy Před rokem +1

      @@SailingUma Sounds like a plan guys. Hey, don't forget to take some time for yourselves. Take at least one day a week to step away. After 4 months, take a week off. It gets humid and hot in Lauderdale, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Wishing you the best.

    • @guillermostamm3413
      @guillermostamm3413 Před rokem

      @@onenuttybuddy if you're new to the channel and love watching rebuilds, go do a binge watch, they've done a lot of that. Also, they are in Italy, not in the US

  • @kapsail
    @kapsail Před rokem

    You might consider putting 1/4 or 3/8 foam using epoxy on the inside of the hull and glassing on top of it to stiffen your hull, making it a foam-cored hull that is much stiffer while adding little weight. I have a 1974 Ericson 37 with a balsa core hull that is very stiff and in good shape. The only thing about cored decks and hulls is that wherever you put a hole thru it you need to cut back the core around the hole and add thickened epoxy to keep the core from ever getting wet. If you go with stringers make sure you make fillets so that you don't have hard spots, especially considering how flexible your hull is or you can crack the hull. Enjoy the project. It is always fun to watch you guys.

  • @stephenrrose
    @stephenrrose Před rokem +2

    Like others have said, this feels like the first time.....Only now, you have skills!!! Can't wait to see the rest of the renovations! Thank you for sharing, thank you for all the hard work of editing, music (which is spot on) and all the behind the scenes we do not see! You Both are Awesome! Stay safe, and through all the hard work, enjoy the journey!

  • @M3rVsT4H
    @M3rVsT4H Před rokem +18

    It's quite amazing the service that hull has given you, considering how unsupported it's been. It's going to be so much better after this refurb. Looking forward to watching your progress.

  • @sashabenoit1518
    @sashabenoit1518 Před rokem +2

    Have you guys ever done asbestos testing during any of your renos? I know a lot of materials, particularly in boats, before the 80's contain asbestos... like wiring, caulking, adhesives, fabrics ect.. Be safe! And can't wait to see the boat all fresh and clean 😊

  • @popsracer886
    @popsracer886 Před rokem +1

    Dan & Kika, seriously consider scanning the inside of the hull and importing into your CAD software, then you can either print out fullsize patterns or just order CNC'd replacement part based on the CAD and you new design. Use self jigging features to keep everything true while installing and glassing. If your software has an analysis suite, you could run the stress analysis for the rigging plates. I would love to see this, and other sailing channels could see how to do it right. Good Job.

  • @garrettstitt5489
    @garrettstitt5489 Před rokem +5

    I’m waiting for your new book: _”Dan and Kika Build A New Boat…Within The Layers of a 50 Year Old Corn Husk”_ 😂

  • @robertaxford7527
    @robertaxford7527 Před rokem +3

    Definitely the best sailing Channel out there you guys have taken your boat to places that challenged you and your boat now refitting her your selves for more awesome adventures absolute legend's 💯

  • @l_alvarez_1k
    @l_alvarez_1k Před rokem +2

    This episode sums it up. There comes a time when even money can’t buy you the life you know you want to have. You just need to be honest with yourself and trust yourself to build from the inside out the “boat”that will carry you thru all the seasons of life. How encouraging to see you two courageous souls working side by side, with love, kindness and patience for your future. Thank you for sharing, and reminding us that a complete change of lifestyle is only a decision away.

  • @LenaS3DB
    @LenaS3DB Před rokem

    I'm so happy you guys decided to go ahead with the restoration instead of getting rid of Uma. She's part of the family now!

  • @afterthemouse
    @afterthemouse Před rokem +3

    A couple of questions if I could? I'm a lock and weir keeper on the River Thames and see a lot of river boats and clearly, the ocean going vessels are different. Will you be running conduit for the wiring - would that be better or worse for water collecting in hard to reach areas? secondly, adding more bulk heads - is there a danger of over stiffening the hull leading to cracks? - loving the education, many thanks!

    • @cheeseburger9232
      @cheeseburger9232 Před rokem

      I know nothing about boats , but I was thinking maybe that boat was built that way for a reason.

  • @Konrad_K.
    @Konrad_K. Před rokem +4

    This is why I watch you guys! Keep rocking

  • @douwekutschlojenga3482
    @douwekutschlojenga3482 Před rokem +1

    Hi you two destroyers☺, i actually also have been working in the watersportsindustry for nearly 30 years now and have been following you guys for some time now, great stories and definately something else than the usual vloggers. You are always talking about making vertical stiffeners along your bow to make the laminate stiffer. why donít you make it a sandwich laminate? make syure your outer hull is completely clean and then glue divinicell foam core on top of it, and then on top of that glue an inner laminate of some GSM mats and then you make that laminate way stiffer than it will ever be with vertical stiffeners. and it will also isolate the hull thus decreasing the moisture inside the hull also. After that make the interior frame for the V-berth and the bed itself and polyester these to the hull with some GSM mats and ten you have a really strong construction. good luck! greetings, Douwe

  • @svlamancha9877
    @svlamancha9877 Před rokem +1

    Good luck with your refit guys. It’s going to be great to follow along. Good call to add ribs and longitudinal stringers to the hull. Keep a gap between the new bulkheads and the hull skin, the bulkhead should not be in contact with the hull, you can use a foam spacer between the hull and bulkhead which can also provide a transition for the tabbing. The tabbing is what should transfer the loads between the bulkheads and the hull skin. If you have not got it you should get a book called Boat Strength by Dave Gerr that will help you design all the structure you should put into the boat. It is a great book. 👍

  • @kaycem
    @kaycem Před rokem +70

    i have sneaking suspicion that uma is about to be the most structurally secure vessel in the ocean 😂

    • @dahemac
      @dahemac Před rokem +2

      😁

    • @ivorharry6372
      @ivorharry6372 Před rokem

      True. Can’t wait to see.

    • @davidcash6809
      @davidcash6809 Před rokem +2

      I'll bet that Magic Carpet II will be stronger and better because Alodino is a master shipright! But Uma will get close thanks to this crew.

    • @jansmit4628
      @jansmit4628 Před rokem

      Is this maybe moment to transplant all good parts of UMA to a complete different neglected boat?

    • @FatGuyInaTruck
      @FatGuyInaTruck Před rokem

      nah, Mads has it beat with the entire structure having that thick reinforcement in it.

  • @tallyboyle9148
    @tallyboyle9148 Před rokem +3

    Uma 2.0 is gonna be a beast.
    You guys (as always) are amazing. :)

  • @davejob630
    @davejob630 Před rokem +2

    Maybe the flexing of the hull has been a blessing in disguise....sometimes it's better to bend rather than break....when I think about all the waves that have pounded her.... In any case, you two are absolutely an inspiration! wishing you the best for the rebuild, and I hope there's no nasty surprises in store.

  • @wolcottwu756
    @wolcottwu756 Před rokem

    Whew! Glad she held together across the North Atlantic, etc.
    Great choices of music for demolition.

  • @mrpenn4613
    @mrpenn4613 Před rokem +8

    Loved what ya'll did with the galley and the "hefty Susan" can't wait to see what your collective Borg brain comes up with for this refit! Are you planning custom water tanks, plastic, or something else?

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +11

      Yeah, a lot of the "creative" solution we came up with were solutions to problems that shouldn't have existed. No that we get to start from scratch. It will be fun to come up with new solutions.

  • @hiuto2
    @hiuto2 Před rokem +3

    After the sea's that this boat has experienced, it made me shudder and thank goodness you didn't experience a catastrophic hull failure. She held together for you and now you are showing her the time and love she needs to carry on.

  • @patrickleone535
    @patrickleone535 Před rokem +5

    It's a wonder how Dan survived the hurricane, both of you crossed the Atlantic and made it to the Med.
    Hopefully, with this mega-refit, you guys will be able to visit Australia, one day ...
    G-day mates!
    🦘🦘🦘

  • @abigailjacob4043
    @abigailjacob4043 Před rokem +2

    Wow! I'm sure it's daunting to realize how much work you need to do, but Uma-as-she-was took you guys on some pretty amazing sailing passages! Once she's rebuilt, you know you'll have a really amazing, sturdy vessel!!

  • @ramseyhazbun9614
    @ramseyhazbun9614 Před rokem

    You guys are really plumbing the depths of that hole in the water where we put our money.... I'd feel bad watching this if I wasn't fairly confident you will finish this massive project. Great entertainment and I'm learning so much!

  • @theromihs
    @theromihs Před rokem +3

    Watching videos like this really gets me questioning the integrity of commercial boat builders out there...
    Being an optimist, I like to believe that the standards have improved since your hull was built, but are newer yachts really being built better? Are they truly worth the money that they ask for them?

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  Před rokem +4

      Not all boats are built equally. A lot of manufacturers just have better marketing budget. Doesn’t necessarily mean that their boat is well built.

    • @boooshes
      @boooshes Před rokem +1

      Generally newer boats are not designed or built better. Better boats are built better, just like its always been.

  • @Luzt.
    @Luzt. Před rokem +3

    Regarding air gap between hull and partition wall: you make unwaranted assumption that this be low quality/design flaw. In fact, this may be a design feature to allow proper spreading of stress/movement. Connecting parts into one solid piece may lead to concentration of stress in this area and cause material failure. It was ok for 50 years and this tells something. Consult specialist. Be humble. You do not know what lays beyond limits of your knowledge.

  • @malcolmwhite821
    @malcolmwhite821 Před rokem +1

    Planning is. Key. Do not forget conduit for electrical. Both high and love voltage.

  • @rwbishop
    @rwbishop Před rokem +3

    Don't want to be the 'heavy' here: but this 'project' is destined to consume -large- -enormous- colossal amounts of money, time & sweat... and even if completed, will still leave you with a decades old boat. In the large aircraft world, this would be known as a 'D' check, where many airframes end up scrapped over economic realities. As my dad would occasionally say "It's far better to have a horrible ending, than to have horrors without end."

  • @saschapietsch2213
    @saschapietsch2213 Před rokem +6

    Hello, did you guys concider to use this honeycomb foam core for the hull? Shipyards used to build boats with it nowadays. I think the stuff is called 3d core xps. It gives u a real good structural strength, it isolates against the cold/heat/noise, it weight´s like nothing and it´s made from recyceled foam. This could be the first DIY project showing it on YT so the producer might provide you with the material plus the vacuum pump for the infusion. Just an idea ;-)

  • @carlcykel
    @carlcykel Před rokem +1

    Hi! Maybe you should consider gluing a hard type (divinycell 75kg) foam to the hull, and then glass over. It will stiffen you boat dramatically. There are many benefits to this procedure, but to name a few:
    1. greater strength
    2. Insulation (minimizing condensation)
    3. ease of application
    4. light weight
    Let me know if you want more info on the matter. Have done it a couple of times and doing a 34 ft sailboat at the moment.
    Kind regards,
    Carl (boatbuilder)

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

    I've been broke since Covid but I'm finally able to join up on Patreon. Thank you for saving Uma and keeping the dream alive for DIY peeps.

  • @bartoszstachowicz6978
    @bartoszstachowicz6978 Před rokem +3

    Hi guys! I have been following you for a while and let me just say I love your project! Watching this episode, I thought I could contribute a bit. You seem to be at a moment when a proper integral technical documentation of the boat could most easily be made and than maintained during your further adventures. While it is perfectly possible to recreate a structure that will be sound, just by using the rule of thumb and common sense, I think you could benefit from a more precise way to think about the changes you are about to make. For example the water tank you have now removed was a part of structure that participated in the rigidity of the hull bottom. It was a so called natural stiffener. All the modification you will do to it, should in principle guarantee achieving at least the equivalent level of strength. I am sure that you are going to nail it, but if you want. I can produce basic design help. This is a somewhat lengthy process and would involve you taking some measurements. These could be carried out during a single day I guess, and then completed here and there if needed. I would then make a 3D model of your hull with the structure that you want to keep. From there it is possible to calculate the design pressures and calculate the necessary laminate parameters for the reinforcements that you would later introduce. Let me know if this interests you. And anyhow, good luck!

  • @CapitalVideo
    @CapitalVideo Před rokem +2

    "Necessity is the mother of invention, so it is said!

  • @timevans8223
    @timevans8223 Před rokem

    Have you considered adding a layer of foam core in the bow area rather than structural ribs? Core is super stiff and less intrusive in the space. You get thermal and sound insulation built in. You only need to add 1/2"core to stiffen the hull with a layer of 20 oz cloth on the inside. Super easy then to refit your bow without needing to deal with all the ribs and their ability to trap moisture. If your hull is so thin. The addition of core is a great solution.
    Our 43 year old Trintella 44 was built in Airex core. Super dry, stiff and in perfect condition. The water tank on our boat is grp and built into the boat as a structural element. 220 gallon. It sits over the keel. We refurbished it a couple of years ago with a potable quality polyurethane 2 pack paint. We can climb into the tank so easier to work on than your tanks. We love our grp water tank. No corrosion. No leaks. No wasted space. No taste and the weight is just where we need it over the keel

  • @kathrynlitchfield7140
    @kathrynlitchfield7140 Před rokem +1

    I feel like you have narrowly avoided a critical failure by re-doing Uma now. I’m amazed that she held up as well as she did in the icy waters of the arctic. Once you get done with this refit, she will be Sound. (Yes; with a S.) ❤ You’ve got this!

  • @geminus1688
    @geminus1688 Před rokem

    And you crossed the north Atlantic with that? Wow! Guess we know where all the squeaks were coming from lol. It was so pretty and perfect till you started peeling back the layers. I don't remember the water tank problem. Good to get that fixed. I can't believe those bulk heads weren't even attached! Another WOW! It's gonna take a little time and a lot of effort but I know it's going to be amazing when your done. She may even handle better. Probably some flex at the chain plates before. Now you know what you need and want. You'll be smiling and happy next time the seas get rough knowing you made her strong. Uma reborn! Best wishes. Love you guys!

  • @Will-W
    @Will-W Před rokem

    I'm assuming this was as cathartic for you as it was for us to watch. We're glad you're making your home safe.

  • @dickfoss1
    @dickfoss1 Před rokem +2

    Thanks!

  • @IsaMichas-gf6kq
    @IsaMichas-gf6kq Před rokem

    Cheap serial boat production cuts corner after corner.Liners also hide a multitude of sins.On custom boats we used cotton fiber with epoxy and peelply just to do the fillets before taping the bulkhead in using epoxy and double bias glass on both sides or minimally to a monolithic skin when only one side possible.Great that you guys keep your optimism many would not .

  • @Wayouts123
    @Wayouts123 Před rokem +1

    It’s amazing you’ve never had a serious issue at sea. Considering that they are even less careful with “built-to-a-budget” production boats now compared to back then it’s scary

  • @realulli
    @realulli Před rokem +1

    Ragarding the bulkheads not glassed to anything, I recently saw a video about one of the higher end cruising cat makers. They don't glass the bulkheads in either. The reasoning behind not glassing the stuff in is, if you leave a gap and fill it with foam or some rubber compound, stuff doesn't creak (as much?). The hull is supposed to be solid on its own and shouldn't need the bulkheads for stability (unless you make it too thin and factor in the bulkheads...)

  • @johnkeegan6646
    @johnkeegan6646 Před rokem +1

    Confident and constructive demolition, I love it! If I were another Pearson boat owner, I would not be happy to see how your Pearson was built. Shoddy building would be a compliment! Yikes!

  • @Steeler_
    @Steeler_ Před rokem +1

    The age old way all projects go haha. You start with a small-ish plan, set it in motion and before you know it you sit there with a bare shell redoing everything

  • @Silverbugle2005
    @Silverbugle2005 Před rokem

    This is why I love you guys' Channel. You are not afraid to get your hands dirty tear the boat apart and put it back together the way you want it to make your boat structurally sound, and function properly.

  • @jimfisk4474
    @jimfisk4474 Před rokem +1

    There's always something new happening huh Dan and Kika. You're very confident and know how people. Thanks much and see you next time.❤

  • @helenebee166
    @helenebee166 Před rokem +1

    That's right! Give it a good thump! That's the way to go! 😮🎉

  • @stanstatic
    @stanstatic Před rokem +2

    Cannot wait to see all the amazing work and improvements.

  • @svgypsy281
    @svgypsy281 Před rokem +1

    you two are so lucky to have found eachother. For the life of me i cannot find a partner that is willing to do what we do with our lives. keep on guys!

  • @frankholden237
    @frankholden237 Před rokem

    Wow, just wow!!. Also high (southern) latitude sailors we did a major 'half life' refit on my '86 built boat in 2015... no where near as extreme as yours. Cupla points ... years ago I found she was prone to 'oil canning' up frd when working to windward . Laminated in longitudinals at 'shelf level' which means you also have a shelf to build on. Also for insulation against the hull we simply used 6mm EVA foam throughout... the foil backed ones , works good. Currently replacing our 1986 engine. Oh joy , oh happiness.

  • @justbelit
    @justbelit Před rokem +1

    Wow, just wow. you two are extremely ambitious!!! can't wait for the Q & A when you tell us why you chose to reno over a newer (possibly bigger) boat

  • @kylelane7925
    @kylelane7925 Před rokem +1

    Hi guys just some food for thought on the bulkheads I had to fit some to my boat and was told to make sure I leave a gap between the bulkheads and the wall to allow for the hull to change shape and flex :)

  • @timgrace414
    @timgrace414 Před rokem +2

    What a great episode. You two look so excited!

  • @uuugberns
    @uuugberns Před rokem

    I was happy 8 years ago with your forklift motor, and fixing things as you could. I'm glad you kept the old lady. Thank you!

  • @leilanihimmelmann9190
    @leilanihimmelmann9190 Před rokem +2

    You two are amazing! Really looking forward to following your progress! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @jjwanek1830
    @jjwanek1830 Před rokem

    So excited for all of these renovation videos!!!!

  • @johannestejder4469
    @johannestejder4469 Před rokem

    Im sooo looking forward to see the rest of this project! You two make the best videos with the best content!

  • @WendyLaurenE
    @WendyLaurenE Před rokem +1

    After starting at the very beginning almost a year and a half ago, I've finally made it through your story to the present day. This feels totally surreal! I must admit, I'm sad not to have dozens of unwatched episodes, but I must say, it's been the most amazing journey to watch. Thank you for sharing your story. I can't wait to see where it goes next!

  • @wjhann4836
    @wjhann4836 Před rokem

    Wow - I was shocked that nothing of the former interior was connected as a kind of stringer. And the "Bulkheads" were even worse.

  • @richardlee385
    @richardlee385 Před rokem

    Shocked at the lack of any horizontal stringers on the hull and the general lack of decent bulkheads. So pleased to see you do this work and that you survived all those miles at sea. Keep up the good work.

  • @freshtodeath88
    @freshtodeath88 Před rokem

    I am very invested in yalls journey. Super excited for the end project.

  • @richb313
    @richb313 Před rokem +1

    You guys always amaze me with your dedication but tackling this project is something else just keep it up.

  • @LifeBetweenTheDash
    @LifeBetweenTheDash Před rokem +2

    Wow look at what skill, design sense and confidence can do. Can't wait to see ❤

  • @johnsumner6185
    @johnsumner6185 Před rokem +1

    My favorite videos you create are the maintenance videos! Great job!

  • @steveberkshire3804
    @steveberkshire3804 Před rokem +1

    You guys are the best!
    I love how you get down with everything..sharing your lessons, triumphs, tragedies and adventures. All blessings🙏🍕