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The Miyoo A30 and the Anbernic RG28XX are the latest versions of two of my favorite emulation handhelds. Except they've learned no lessons from what made their predecessors great...
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i believe in GBA SP supremacy. i'm so excited to preorder the rg35xx SP ! it also has a classic gameboy edition. i only had a yellow powkiddy v90 before this
i think this is due to the "game" these companies play, like who releases first....so they release devices with obvious flaws just to be the first one....instead, i would prefer if they would take their time and than, release a device which is just good from front to back...no one would have a problem, having to wait 2-3 months in order to get a better device... but these companies tempt to release unfinished stuff and then, months later, here comes the plus version or whatever which is basically the same device, but with fixed flaws... this is just dumb... as a company, lets say anbernic. just let powkiddy, myiou etc release their stuff... take your time, fix everything BEFORE relasing, and THAN release to dump your competitors, with an overall nice product.... that would be much better. especially when you become a company that is known for being like that... so even your customers will say "Yeah, nice, myiou, nice butr meeh... but I'll go for an anbernic..they'll do it better" .. just for example... could be every company...it annoys me a lot, especially in this case, because i love that formfactor and would be happy to have an overall good product but i didn't found it yet since i also want to play nintendo 64 with it so it would need to have a stick but the miyoo's performance on n64 is bad as we have seen......all of them have their flaws and issues...
Your 2019 PocketGo video is what inspired me to get my first handheld, so thanks for that!
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Me too!
It's really amazing.
No wonder you always name drop him Russ, I thought you just knew him personally lol you both are legends
2 of my fave creators 😮
This video just dropped but now i'm waiting on the GBA SP style video
Micro from factor > SP form factor
I wonder if trying to get the hinges just right is a problem for these companies Retroid tried but they had a problem with theirs
Powkiddy made one but idk how good it is its the powkiddy v90
@@lasthopelost9090 From their footage I think anbernic might be using aftermarket GBA SP hinges
@@naruhearts1anbernic too with the rg35xxsp
"it should come good" -things I was told and honestly I'm trying my best here 😭
I am so dead
thanks bob for providing me with a video to watch while i work my grandmas store
Blud what💀
Get your ass back to work
This is very wholesome
@@its-just-a-randomguy8958 thank u. i love my grandmother
@@gregorytoniolo3423 u clearly have never worked a store owned by your grandmother
We love the honesty Bob, sometimes these companies need hear this to get there shit together
9:31 I can feel TechDweeb flipping out while watching this part about the color Orange being the ugliest color.
I was pretty surprised he didn't like the orange. I think it looks cool. I wonder if he doesn't like orange at all or if it's just the shade or something. I'm not sure about the white accents. It does have a dreamsicle vibe which is reasonable, but it makes it look a bit cheap (which I suppose it is).
Finally some thing we call agree on!!! I hate when my devices don’t come good!!!!
Loving the F-Zero GX garage music in the beginning 👍
Gods I love bloody love F-Zero
Man. That intro makes me realize just how ahead of the curve I was playing 32 bit games on my GP2X back in 2006.
My first was the dingo a320 I don't think android was even a thing yet. Getting old am I right
I was emulating the snes in the 90s and moved to 64 early 2000s. Those were wild days for emulation
I respect these handheld CCs and the standards they set, it's good for this niche industry. Personally got both the a30 and rg28xx for exactly what they are (gba devices in a fun and convenient form factor at a price I don't mind dropping) but I'm glad creators are trying to set better standards for the handheld community -- makes for better product down the line :)
All I need is GBA. I'm a simple man.
Best honest, straight to the point opinion on youtubes ❤
On the Rg28xx - for Dreamcast just tap the power button to switch between the d pad and the thumb stick controls.🤙
Long time watcher but haven't watched in a long time. I absolutely love the direction your channel has gone in! Great stuff!
Thanks for the awesome comprehensive review. I really like how you focus on the performance of these devices compared to other CZcamsrs who just gloss over how true the games play and just talk about specs. Keep it up, love your channel.
in terms of design, the miyoo takes it, in terms of power, anbernic takes it
in terms of stupid dumb controls, both take it.
Uhh, you missed the good one (talking about it here anyway) the RG35XX-H, the horizontal format is more comfortable, has sticks and is more pocketable than the non-H versions.
i was thinking the samething, i have one as well and luv it. with custom firmware ive been able to play dreamcast games!
the RG35xx H is small enough for me. Love that thing. Not sure why many would want anything smaller than that.
"IT SHOULD COME GOOD"
If I never found your channel I prolly would have never gotten into emulation! Because of you I’ve been obsessed with handheld consoles and emulation on my phone. It’s an extremely addictive hobby 😅
That first one looks perfect for PSP emulation with that one analog stick
That would be true if it could at least handle N64. No chance of emulating PSP with that one.
@@iaebiahand it did emulate PSP better than N64. Just watch retro game corp video. The chip is, in paper, more powerful. The major problems are the CF badly executed and poor optimization for N64 and Dreamcast, PSP optimization seems to be better.
@@iaebiah ah
at this rate, the budget option is just buying a controller for the phone you already have in your pocket and is likely under 2 years old and can eat n64 for breakfast
Man I was looking forward to both of these but I’m sad to say that barring some kind of major turnaround I’ll be picking up neither. Why are the controls on the 28XX so damn tiny? Why does the Miyoo have an analog stick despite the fact that it is not nearly powerful enough to run N64 or Dreamcast? I could go on obviously. The decisions these companies make are increasingly baffling. I never thought I’d say this but even Powkiddy is easily looking like the best emulation device manufacturer these days. What a time to be alive.
The joystick is a godsend for anyone who has Nintendo Thumb. It's the only way to play without causing further injury. It's also just way easier for some games, like doing Soul Steal or Wing Smash in SotN, or even playing Atari Adventure.
Great Stuff, as always!
I actually think the orange is pretty dope. All negatives aside.
I agree looks like a creamsicle 😅
I almost stopped the video when he said it was the ugliest.
Side note: my miyoo mini plus came in months ago with a broken speaker and their support team SUCKSSS. I never got a replacement and they stopped emailing me.
I agree. It should come good.
i do agree with him that it should Come Good.
Love your videos
That hand dismissing you as you leave, that's just gold, and the fact that you know it means you've had it done to you so many times 😭💀
Thank you for giving a honest review..followed you
I love landscape handhelds. My most played with console is the TrimUI Smart. Not the pro, just the 2nd gen Trimui. It's my favorite little device.
Bob thank you for all you do and did for me , you got me though some hard times in my life watching you and woods videos helped me cope, I lost my wife a year ago in a car acadent ,been very depressed , and you tube and video games saved my life it kept me off doing so ethi g stupid so I can't thank you enough , I wanted togoto 2 many games at the end of June to meet guys, but kinda broke rasingmy 2 boys ,one day I will meet you. God bless and keep the awesome content coming
Love, love, love this channel! Dude is not afraid to say something is bad!
Another Wulf banger
There is an update for stock os!
Got my rg28xx yesterday and downloaded the new version. Everything was fine from the first second. Aspect ratio, settings etc. Perfect gba machine for me :)
That Switch to Wii U reference made me chuckle.
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I have a MiyooMini+ and am amazed you never came across the "refresh ROMs" issue! I had to do that so much when setting mine up for the first time
I just got the RG35XX H as my first ever retro handheld and almost had buyer's remorse when these were released. No regrets now. The custom Batocera firmware is solid and there's a fork coming out soon that's supposed to be a significant improvement over that. Emulating N64 and Dreamcast is actually pretty important to me, so I think the 35xxH is the best cheap thing available right now (got it on sale for under $50).
If I could get the Miyoo A30 design, but it had good firmware (Onion would be ideal) AND could play N64 and Dreamcast relatively well for under like $70... that would be amazing. Probably not going to get anything like that happening for at least another year, so I'm happy with what I have for now.
TRY THE R36S IT"S BETTER THEN THE H
@@cjjorge6636 That's not what I determined. In what ways do you think the R36S is better?
Lol don’t get buyers remorse; they make a new one every other week. I had the same thing happen when I bought mine. They all do the same thing at the end of the day.
I was gonna comment about Batocera, I’ve installed it on my 35xx+ and it’s, for me, by far the best experience on the device.
I'm glad you focused so much on the software on these things being horrible. I think that's the main problem with almost all these handhelds, and it's why I stick to the ones using RockChip SoCs since I know it'll get proper support from JELOS and similar OSes. RockChip SoCs are also getting used in Pine64 and OrangePi single board computers and so will have people working on getting good Linux support for the chips already. It's a shame how many of these things use hardware that's kinda obscure and unlikely to ever get good software support, basically just e-waste from the start. I watch videos about a lot of these devices, but the only one I've actually bought is the Anbernic RG353M as it kinda ticked all my boxes. RGB30 was also quite tempting since it used the same SoC but had the cool 1:1 aspect ratio screen, but was too hard to justify with just the screen being the main difference.
im curious if you checked out the anbernic rg 556 yet. cuz i have been loving it. it splaying a lot of gamecube and ps2 games pretty dang well
i'm still playing on my r36s i'm happy i don't need to get them all i have lot of games 1000's of roms 30 years of them i still have not fully played maybe one day lol
Great video! The best horizontal option for under 100 bucks for me is the RG35XX H.
It's not perfect, and I wish it ran Onion OS, but it CAN run N64 80% of the time with no issues, AND it can run dreamcast well half the time.
The Miyoo Mini with Onion OS is absolutely adorable and awesome.
Could you review the Trimui Smart Pro? Seems like a cool budget option with vita layout
Feels like forever since playGo and later pocketGo came out and take the world into whole retro craze :DD
So far I have the RG 28XX and really like it. Haven't received the A30 yet to compare. I wish they would do a version with 6 face buttons and hardware powerful enough for full speed Sega Saturn emulation.
Custom Firmware would definitely turn this into a beast.
But who knows when that'll happen.
I might just get a 3ds or ds lite with an r4 card.
I think you jinxed us with your hypothetical about if the Nintendo Switch 2 maybe worse than the first switch
I didnt hear any mention on PSP emulation for the Miyoo, did you do any testing by chance? Having the single analog stick seams like a good match up if it can run decent
thank you for all the PSVita videos.
I hope the clamshell competition between the Anbernic whatever SP and the Miyoo Mini whatever Flip will be less messy than this one... A pocketable clamshell is what I would genuinely consider as a second emulation handheld (I have a Retroid Pocket 2S and I could not ask for more actually)
My fave I have is the PK rgb10max2 with RetroOZ. Yes it’s the bigger more PSP size but I just love it.. I don’t think I have had one where I like the stock FW.
in terms of specs the anbernic RG28XX is in the same power of the RG35XX Plus so that means it runs batocera V40 just fine.
I really like the form factor of the miyoo, but I am plenty pleased with my rg35xxh. More so after this review.
i'll wait for onion OS
Give it time man, give it time. I Love my MM V2s, but I love a horizontal form factor way better!
F-Zero GX garage music is a sick background track...
problem is, garlic OS the one installed in the RG35XX original is that it's outdated so guys if you are into emulation buy the RG353P or RG353PS because both have good firmware from the get go.
let's hope anbernic actually reuses those firmwares on the RG353 devices once more for the next devices.
Yeah I use the 353M, and was never able to get ArkOS to work on it despite making a couple attempts. Fortunately, the packaged firmware is perfectly acceptable. Haven't had any problems with it.
@@cloudkitt ok cool, btw did you use the device to watch one piece?
@@cloudkitt tbh, it's ok bro, the default firmware is good enough.
I still have an Anbernic 35xx and it’s great! I agree though the firmware is pretty rough and Garlic OS is better. Retro game Corps has a great video on rg35xx with custom firmware. You’d think with all the money Anbernic is getting they would just invest right back into a good firmware instead of new handhelds.
Refreshing ROMs is a thing with OnionOS on MM as well.
Wake up! Bob dropped another video
the RG28XX has a good D-pad that can actually act like a analog stick cuz of how tiny it is.
Ordered the RG35XX H, hasn’t arrived yet but seems a lot better.. I’m hoping
The RA game tab is just short for RetroArch. Personally I like having the default Game Room and the RA tab. A lot of games work great with the Game Room right out of the box with basic emulation and trimmed back settings that for my purposes usually work. It’s a lot more user friendly for people who aren’t into tinkering and just want to play some Gameboy with simple save states and trimmed back options. RetroArch is a tinkerers emulator which is great but also makes a difficult situation for many casual gamers who don’t have the time or want to spend time researching how to get things to work. I have the RGX35XX-H and it’s fantastic. It’s my favorite emulation device and as far as handhelds it’s just one step down from my Nintendo Switch. Part of why I like these handhelds is simply the peace of mind of being able to revisit all my favorite Gamboy games but I also end up playing a ton of games I otherwise would never check out and it’s just a more enjoyable process than NSO. It’s thanks to your channel and a few others that I picked up the Anbernic 35XX-H and imo it’s a great go-to. It has PSP and DS emulation out of the box and also does N64 and Dreamcast I believe though I haven’t dabbled much into that.
I’m waiting on the new Anbernic GBA SP inspired emulator I just saw the other day.
Sonic Advance 3 is one of the best tests for GBA, the normal ending scene has an annoying vertical line on most popular emulators VBA, mGBA, gbarunner2.
You know it's a tricky thing because the WiiU release doesn't have it, but if you inject the game on say, Sonic Advance 2? You will get the vertical line! Maybe once the decomp gets going a solution can be found.
I just received mine yesterday. It’s really nice, although with large hands the bumpers are rather awkward
As long as PSX runs well on this, I’m fine with that. Although, I could also just buy a RG35XX for cheaper too.
(I think? I checked the prices and I saw both of these devices are much more expensive, unless I’m checking at the wrong places)
The Miyoo A30 has the same chip as a pre-existing miyoo/bittboy product, the PocketGo S30. Unfortunately the firmwares that existed for that don't work because too many of the other components are different (likely mostly due to the rotated screen which has been the biggest obstacle in getting otherwise compatible firmware from the 35xx to work on the 28xx)
great vid
RG28XX will get muOS pretty soon and for those who dont like text based CFW, Knulli will also come rather soon (tho not as stable as muOS bc it's still in beta)
I’ve been waiting for a clamshell device because I’ve really wanted a pocketable device but don’t want a tiny screen. Really hoping the new Anbernic 35xx SP and the Miyoo flip don’t have these same short comings. If there isn’t at least 1 viable clamshell device this year I might flip a table.
What are those black Joycons at the start of the Video? They look sick!
Hey Bob, do you have a Anbernic RG35XX H? I think you would like it.
You can tweak the Dreamcast d-pad and get it working, I did it.
If Bob wants an Anbernic that has good Stock firmware, he should check out the Anbernic RG Arc. The stock Linux firmware on that is actually pretty good, with the only thing really missing being a scraper. Just make sure to update to the latest V12 firmware.
My favorite GBA style emulation device is by far the Switch Lite with CFW
I think the biggest issue for me is that I'm not a big public transportation user. I have very little opportunity to use something like this. I like the form factor, so I got one of those bluetooth controllers that goes around your phone. For the bit I use it, it's mostly just at home.
Do you plan on getting the AnbernicSP?
What's the best cheaper option to the Analogue Pocket for NES/SNES/Genesis, etc. emulation?
1:40 "This one runs bad, and this one feels bad... also why are we relying on custom firmware??"
Hell yeah! Used psp as handheld emulation device, and was great. Then had GPD XD, which was even greater but died, which forced me to look for an alternative and got the pocket Go while Covid and it arrived just one day later! I loved and still love my Pocket Go, it is certainly the most memorable retro handheld I had till this point, and still use it, and I bought multiple ones, and was a great gift idea. Honestly I am kind of sad they aren't doing anything. They certainly could re-release the pocket go, I would buy it again XD. Now if they upgraded some specs, they'd be a no contender. Super pocketable, super cheap, miyoo and anbernics are no contenders in this sense, even though I love those too. I own many retro handhelds by now, but the pocket go was very special to me, and I had a GPD XD before, which was nice, but not as memorable as the pocket go. Also, I personally love its screen.
at this point getting the r36s seems like the no brainer choice. but i would still urge people to go for the miyoo mini or mini plus. they are significantly better in software and quality of life experiences (buttons, save states etc.).the best budget choice is still the og miyoo mini / plus there is yet to be a horizontal device equivalent to it imo.
Bob, make a review of the R36S! :)
FOR REAL I LOVE MINE IT ROCKS AND CAN SAVE $$$$
just picked one up on Ali for 38, it's awesome
4:54 except they are using an ancient and dirt cheap chipset from 10 years ago called the Allwinner A33. Has the same cores as a miyoo mini, just double the amount and a better gpu. But still, even 10 years ago, this wasn't a great chip.
I wanted one of these but after seeing the reviews... I can't justify it. The 35XXSP on the other hand, at least has that cool clamshell thing going on, so I got that instead
Picked up a 28xx over the a30 solely because it has no wifi or bt, meaning i can have it in the classified room at work, prefer the mechanics of the a30 but whatr you gonna do
What a shame, when I saw the form factor I fell in love just like my with my old powkiddy that I broke the screen, but it seems to not be an upgrade at all with the struggling with a SNES game, and I can't buy something that looks promising with a CFW, but without having one yet.
My favorite handheld emulator ever to this day is (and probably will always be) the GameForce Chi.
Have and still play the mm+ stukk waiting for the sp version but will still be playing the mm+ until it gets costume firmware
What handheld emulator would you recommend for GBA and maybe ds?
My favorite emulator is still my original PSP. Plays everything up to PS1 like the ones he lists in the video. It has N64 emulator but its spoty at best.
I'm glad I don't have an Oled monitor because I watch and re-watch your videos religiously in the top left corner of my second monitor while I work and I'd definitely have burn in of your videos by now 😅
I thought that burn-in only happens when there are stagnant pixels for an extended period of time. Wouldn't the moving pixels of the video prevent burn-in?
@@chompsxbite3050I think he might be saying there would be an image outline of their browser or a rectangle (PiP?) of where the video would be. So while the video itself isn’t stagnant, the outline of the video might????? IDK 😂😅
hell yeah
Funny enough "AYANEO" is about to announce a new pocket micro console inspired on the GBA Micro
Whaaaat? Link?
MuOS for the 28XX is supposed to come out in the next coming days
Does keepretro usually take a long time to ship?