Top 10 Dark Truths About Old Hollywood

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  • Behind the glamour, Old Hollywood was full of dark truths. For this list, we’ll be ranking the most surprising, disturbing, and/or controversial things about the industry’s so-called Golden Age. Our countdown includes contract pressure, spying, morality clauses, and more! Did any of these stories surprise YOU? Let us know in the comments!
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  • @MsMojo
    @MsMojo  Před rokem +42

    Did any of these stories surprise YOU? Let us know below, and check out our video of the Top 10 Savage Burns from Classic Hollywood Movies - czcams.com/video/rL_9MrlvnjY/video.html

    • @stormshadowproductions1660
      @stormshadowproductions1660 Před rokem

      Why not do the top 10 worst things penny has ever done

    • @manueltapia1859
      @manueltapia1859 Před rokem

      The child actors punishments no wonder why Judy Garland, Shirley Temple quit acting. And what about animal abuse in movies??? Pull horses with wires to simulate they fall thank God nowdays are not like that.

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 Před rokem +3

      You didn't mentioned the sexual abuse and pedophilia. No concrete proof yet?

    • @tiananesbitt7156
      @tiananesbitt7156 Před rokem

      Sammy and Kim 😳

    • @mariaboletsis3188
      @mariaboletsis3188 Před rokem

      NOPE! None of them.

  • @xtina6569
    @xtina6569 Před rokem +138

    Marilyn stood up to them turning a movie down, they suspended her and she made her own production company. She was so much more intelligent than some ppl think. Marilyn was a character she played, she could turn it on or off.

    • @unluckyone1655
      @unluckyone1655 Před rokem +10

      Honestly if she would have lived longer I can totally see her being an amazing screen writer and script doctor, among other things. She was surprisingly brilliant writer.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 Před rokem +8

      Marilyn's dear friend, Shelley Winters said she was very intelligent, and that was Marilyn's problem. Shelley reasoned that because Marilyn was bright, and not dumb, she had problems.

    • @SJ-ni6iy
      @SJ-ni6iy Před rokem +6

      It’s really sad that her childhood was riddled in trauma. I don’t think she ever felt loved and she was robbed of trust in her early years.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 Před rokem +2

      @@SJ-ni6iy and very sad she got involved with JFK and RFK. Fatal.

    • @kathleenking47
      @kathleenking47 Před 10 měsíci

      She WAS
      I knew Joe DJ maggios cousin
      She met her, and said, her character an ACT. Similar to Pee wee Herman to Paul Rubens

  • @eliothorowitz5627
    @eliothorowitz5627 Před rokem +437

    When criticized for playing maids, Hattie Mac Daniel said. "I'd rather make $3,000 for playing a maid than $30, being one."

    • @Torihappyness
      @Torihappyness Před rokem +39

      She did nothing wrong,it was the times.
      At least she wasn't playing a baffoon.

    • @angelcitygirl
      @angelcitygirl Před rokem +34

      Incorrect quote. It was $700 a week playing one then $7 being one. $3k would have been an insane amount paid to a black actor in the 30s.

    • @debbieking5171
      @debbieking5171 Před rokem +28

      Hattie McDaniel was a classy lady

    • @eliothorowitz5627
      @eliothorowitz5627 Před rokem +24

      @@debbieking5171 She wasn't going to attend the Oscars, but Clark Gable convinced her to go...and then, they had her seated outside the kitchen.

    • @margaretkerr4591
      @margaretkerr4591 Před rokem +8

      Hattie McDaniel was a true legend ❤

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 Před rokem +218

    Always especially disappointing how many of the child stars' worst enemies were their own parents. First for putting them in the business at all, second for stealing all their money.

    • @MsKaz1000
      @MsKaz1000 Před rokem +2

      yeah even becoming agents when they had no training or background to be, I hope modern agencies ensure that the child earning are put in a trust for them once they become of age

    • @CC3193
      @CC3193 Před rokem +8

      Natalie Wood's mother. Brooke Shields' mother.

    • @AxelQC
      @AxelQC Před rokem +2

      Like Will & Jayda Smith

    • @MF-zj3zl
      @MF-zj3zl Před rokem +7

      And third, not protecting them from sexual abuse.

    • @user-rq2es2io8y
      @user-rq2es2io8y Před měsícem

      Stage Mothers exist in every culture, but Hollywood brought out the worst of them.

  • @heatherr0420
    @heatherr0420 Před rokem +243

    Ah, the Romanticism of the golden age of Hollywood, so false, yet so beautiful. But as compared to Hollywood today, let's just put it this way, the more things change the more they stay the same😢

    • @angelaholmes8888
      @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +9

      Totally agree with you

    • @starguard4122
      @starguard4122 Před rokem +8

      So True

    • @heatherr0420
      @heatherr0420 Před rokem +16

      It's almost as if Hollywood is a movie in and of itself. It has all the elements of the best story ever; intrigue, deceit, drama, drama, and more drama, betrayal, horror, & touches of comedy, I could go on and on, you know what I mean? It's just one big semi-fctional story being told

    • @manueltapia1859
      @manueltapia1859 Před rokem +7

      Thats why, don't remember which filmaker once said Hollywood has the personality of a paper cup (something like that) refering to the empty and shallow is.

    • @mielissa100ify
      @mielissa100ify Před rokem +2

      I think people just thought the standards were better which is also subjective but not the conditions.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +221

    Sadly I'm not surprised that child stars were treated so cruelly 😢

    • @vgbcp3rs0na41
      @vgbcp3rs0na41 Před rokem +10

      Shirley Temple

    • @manueltapia1859
      @manueltapia1859 Před rokem +7

      Yes really not good, some are still have problems when grow up as they are only considered child actors only!!! 😢

    • @janel.8921
      @janel.8921 Před rokem +3

      I had a cousin who had a chance to become part of the Little Rascals. She was a plump little girl, so she was pegged to play Joe Cobb’s sister. Her uncle, a film actor, told the family that acting was too rough of a job for children.

    • @fenian123
      @fenian123 Před rokem +4

      Still are, just the fact that they work at all is abusive. A young child cannot possibly consent to it

    • @user-rq2es2io8y
      @user-rq2es2io8y Před měsícem +1

      Judy Garland once described her stage mother Ethel Gumm as a "real life witch."

  • @Kiraiko44
    @Kiraiko44 Před rokem +163

    I remember learning about how Judy Garland was treated during the filming of The Wizard of Oz, and that that was pretty common back then and for a good chunk of Hollywood history. On top of a lot of the things mentioned here, she was on a strict diet of chicken soup, black coffee, and cigarettes, that's literally what the studio told her to consume to keep her weight down. She was 17 years old. The guy who played the cowardly lion slapped her on set one day during filming because she couldn't stop giggling, because the studio also made her take a lot of uppers to keep her energy level up for long filming days. She was also sexually harassed constantly on set, mostly about the fact that she apparently had a pretty large chest for a teenager, which they actually bound for filming to keep Dorothy looking young and innocent. And all of this was accepted as normal. It sickens me to be perfectly honest.

    • @storywala88
      @storywala88 Před rokem +6

      Horrifying indeed

    • @andreasmeelie1889
      @andreasmeelie1889 Před rokem +8

      Poor Judy Garland.;(

    • @josephinenanyonga8085
      @josephinenanyonga8085 Před rokem +11

      That slap that happen to Judy, wasn't by the cowardly lion actor, it was the director. He then later felt bad about it and asked one of the crew members to punch him in the face.

    • @Kiraiko44
      @Kiraiko44 Před rokem +14

      @@josephinenanyonga8085 honestly that's even worse because he was one of the people forcing her to eat this way and take drugs. And I doubt he felt bad, he was probably embarrassed he did it in front of everyone. He clearly didn't actually care about her as a person.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 Před rokem

      It seems Judy's wretched mother whored her off to executives. Her mother should have been in jail, as should Louis B Mayer for child abuse

  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 Před rokem +224

    Harsh contracts, Child labor, substance abuse, and casting couches. For the longest time, being a in Tinsel Town was one of the worst occupations in the world. As the saying goes, "All that glitters is not gold."

    • @andresciahooten9598
      @andresciahooten9598 Před rokem +8

      That is so true, but lots and lots of people come to Los Angeles, CA to still become a star

    • @michaelmonthey5974
      @michaelmonthey5974 Před rokem +11

      @@andresciahooten9598 Sadly, their pursuit to stardom comes at unimaginable costs.

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 Před rokem +4

      It still is. It’s only gotten worse

    • @MajesticalHonky
      @MajesticalHonky Před rokem +2

      @@debbylou5729 It's not just tinsel town if you pay attention to what's happening in the US.

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 Před rokem +2

      Orson Welles once said years ago, that no one wanted to become movie stars anymore as it was "not the best thing you can be." Orson had that right.

  • @capribubb9659
    @capribubb9659 Před rokem +78

    Just on the The Thomas Edison thing, that’s not entirely true. A Frenchman named Louie Le Prince created the first moving movie camera , at least 3 years before Thomas Edison. It’s well known that Thomas Edison was one to rip off the inventions of others and pass them off as his own. It’s also been proven that one the first images Louie shot with his camera- known as the Roundtree Garden screen- exists and has been verified, because one of the subjects in it, passed away 10 days after the shot was created . Louie Le Prince is the one to thank for the very reason that movies exist, he created the very first movie camera, not Thomas Edison- Credit Hog!!!!!

    • @vgbcp3rs0na41
      @vgbcp3rs0na41 Před rokem

      THOMAS EDISON IS A THIEF! NICOLA TESLA INVENTED EVERYTHING! YOU CAN’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!

    • @kaiceeholloway8830
      @kaiceeholloway8830 Před rokem +12

      Thank you for this 👍🏾 not a lot of people know how "sus" Edison was.

    • @ailsasublett9885
      @ailsasublett9885 Před rokem

      Edison was a snake

    • @davestang5454
      @davestang5454 Před rokem +1

      I wouldn't go so far as to make the claim that movies wouldn't exist without Louie La Prince. Inventions and innovations are 2 different advancements. Edison was an innovator as well as an inventor. Being the first doesn't mean being the most effective.

    • @meking6327
      @meking6327 Před rokem

      Edison stole the inventions of others. Too bad people look the other way and defend it.

  • @michaelmonthey5974
    @michaelmonthey5974 Před rokem +113

    Alfred Hitchcock’s treatment of Tippi Hedren is a classic example of the casting couch scandals. She resisted his advances towards her, and he destroyed her career in retaliation.

    • @grahamdamberger7130
      @grahamdamberger7130 Před rokem +7

      I once read an interactive story called Red Carpet Diaries 2, and it involved a case like that, where an executive of a film studio tried to commit SA on the MC. She rejected him, which made him say that classic line "I always get what I want". He went as far as to prevent her from going back to her home because she rejected his advances. And sadly, there have been film and TV executives who believed and still believe they "control" the industry just because they have vaults filled with money. It's sick how mankind will go to many lengths to show they are superior above one another. Many of those execs who have that mindset today should be stripped of everything and either rotting in prison or living on the streets.

    • @jaengen
      @jaengen Před rokem +2

      I loved Tippi in her few movie roles. She should have had a better career.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem +2

      @@jaengen She made one hell of a comeback in TV and film since 1990.

    • @katieb3059
      @katieb3059 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@grahamdamberger7130how can you reject SA? It's not an offer.

  • @cooperwesley1536
    @cooperwesley1536 Před rokem +56

    1) With respect to Garland, she was treated horribly as a child star. Her biggest issue was "weight," and the drugs she was forced to take were mostly given to keep her very thin. Other actresses were treated similarly, but Garland got it the worst.
    2) You failed to mention the pedo element... Shirley Temple's autobiography alludes to it, but as we know, it was a lot worse and it is still happening.
    3) The lavender closet was a nightmare for LGB stars, especially the men, and there were many victims. Read Tab Hunter's autobiography. Men like Rock Hudson and (arguably) Cary Grant were forced to play straight and marry just to keep their careers and even stay out of jail.

  • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677

    Damn Watchmojo's been posting more dark secrets lately. I approve please do more.

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +57

    It's disgusting there was a casting couch nobody deserves to go through that 🤢🤮

  • @lindakahler4799
    @lindakahler4799 Před rokem +67

    Jean Arthur was my acting coach. She warned me that I would have to be married if I wanted to act. He would have to be my agent if I wanted to avoid the casting couch. Told me to be an SLP and live a good life. It was fifty years ago. She was a great lady

    • @lasv15
      @lasv15 Před rokem +11

      SLP?

    • @fionaobrien3818
      @fionaobrien3818 Před rokem +5

      What is SLP ?

    • @lindakahler4799
      @lindakahler4799 Před rokem +8

      Sorry speech language pathologist. A modern Henry Higgins

    • @lindakahler4799
      @lindakahler4799 Před rokem +13

      Fifty years ago speech therapy and drama disciplines were combined
      Part of the rational was that one needed to know how to learn dialects.

    • @jaengen
      @jaengen Před rokem +1

      One of my absolute favorite actresses.

  • @Pablorcct
    @Pablorcct Před rokem +49

    Substance abuse, sexual harassment, child abuse, some performers even surgery for a role, hard schedule, the golden age hide so many secrets but the movies are timeless and still really beautiful

    • @grahamdamberger7130
      @grahamdamberger7130 Před rokem

      I won't argue that, but all the behind the scenes drama would ruin the viewing experiences for many audiences today.

    • @jdsiv3
      @jdsiv3 Před rokem +1

      but these things are still present and its not the golden age.

    • @Pablorcct
      @Pablorcct Před rokem

      @@jdsiv3 i know on both music & movies but people don't talk about that

  • @chelseacanales8763
    @chelseacanales8763 Před rokem +40

    So tragic. No actors and actress should suffer from this abuse. 😢😢😢😢😢

  • @barney7822
    @barney7822 Před rokem +57

    Back then, there was no such thing as "No Pain, No Gain" for women
    Just Pain

    • @emanymton5789
      @emanymton5789 Před rokem +3

      Not just for women, for men as well. Many of the big names of that era went through the casting couch as well. Giving "favors" was not just for women. Agents took from both aisles.

    • @kevinbergin9971
      @kevinbergin9971 Před 11 měsíci

      @@emanymton5789 You mean took it UP the aisles!

    • @emanymton5789
      @emanymton5789 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kevinbergin9971 No, i mean Gary Cooper got just as fucked as Ingmar Bergmann. Financially and literally

  • @emiliobello2538
    @emiliobello2538 Před rokem +389

    They should have put racism in the top of the list. And what about asbestos as snow?

    • @bailysbeads2057
      @bailysbeads2057 Před rokem +16

      Muh racism. Nobody cares.

    • @emiliobello2538
      @emiliobello2538 Před rokem +29

      @@bailysbeads2057 oh really?

    • @spiritualginga2064
      @spiritualginga2064 Před rokem +3

      God bless u

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem +20

      It wasn't near as racist as a lot of other places during those abusive times. At least Hollywood hired black actors, jewish actors, Vaudevillians, and other "outcasts" of that era. No, they were not treated fairly, for which there is no excuse, but it's better to look at all the truths of a situation instead of just looking for convenient ways of condemning....again, I'm not at all excusing it, I'm trying to look at all the facts, and most people deny facts that don't agree with what they think. When great comedians fled programs, wars, starvation, etc., to get to America, they brought an entirely new way of entertainment, comedy and music. People like Jimmy Durante, who were brilliant writers and performers opened the door for so many, and names famous today were there in the beginning, like Milton Berle, who stayed on stage for almost a hundred years...

    • @LunaOrgana
      @LunaOrgana Před rokem +11

      That’s a drop in the bucket, not to mention they did mention racism if you actually payed any attention to this… Number 5 btw

  • @gl3913
    @gl3913 Před rokem +59

    I wonder if Elizabeth Short aka The Black Dahlia was a victim of the casting couch and that was at least in part of why she ended up dead..... May she always rest in peace.

    • @Tomboyy9818
      @Tomboyy9818 Před rokem

      Dahlia*

    • @margaret91
      @margaret91 Před rokem

      @@Tomboyy9818 that's what the original person wrote Twit

    • @fashiondiva6972
      @fashiondiva6972 Před rokem +1

      @@margaret91 they likely corrected it after the comment pointing out the misspelling🤦🏾‍♀️ Maybe you should edit your comment🙄

    • @margaret91
      @margaret91 Před rokem

      @@fashiondiva6972 maybe u should delete ur original comment 🙄. Bcuz u obviously never heard of autocorrect.

    • @ok-fv6dm
      @ok-fv6dm Před rokem +3

      I always wondered this too, I've heard in another video before that she had an "appointment" with some new doctor. Have you heard of George Hodel? It's pretty interesting to read into.

  • @cadiza315
    @cadiza315 Před rokem +16

    My understanding was that Hattie McDaniel was not even allowed to sit in the audience when she won an Academy award. The reason is the hotel where the Oscars were held, did not allow African-American guests. So they only let her in to accept the award. Then she had to leave. I’m unclear if they let her sit in some other part of the hotel, but she wasn’t at the actual ceremony. Her acceptance speech was not written by her, she was not allowed to say a single original word. It was written by the production company. I actually don’t like that speech because its it is overkill on the gratitude, subservience, and humility,. Although Hattie McDaniel did a beautiful job reading her lines. But I would like to hear what she would’ve chosen to say.
    Also of interest… Clark Gable was actually a friend to Hattie McDaniel.. They had been in several movies together. When Gone with the Wind premiered, Hattie McDaniels was not invited to the premiere. This pissed Clark Gable off so much he was going to refuse to go. But Hattie McDaniel herself begged him not to make a fuss and go anyway. I am unclear of how he reacted to the whole Academy Awards snub. But there are several noted incidents of Clark Gable trying to make things right for his African-American costars and crewmembers.

    • @user-rq2es2io8y
      @user-rq2es2io8y Před měsícem

      Hattie was a victim of stereotyping. To his credit, Clark Gable stood up for her and remained friends.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Před rokem +130

    It's so horrible that child actors were overworked or abused back in the "Golden Age" of Hollywood, forced to work way past their allocated hours. Fortunately, they'd never let this fly nowadays on a modern set.

    • @kamsismith
      @kamsismith Před rokem +13

      I remember hearing about that through Modern Gurlz’s video about the media’s mistreatment of women with Judy Garland, Elizabeth Taylor, and Shirley Temple being notable examples of that. Almost everyone forgets, myself included, that Elizabeth Taylor was a child actor.

    • @angelaholmes8888
      @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +10

      I really hope that things have changed for child actors today

    • @as3957
      @as3957 Před rokem +8

      ​@@angelaholmes8888 If it didn't, the studios are breaking the law, child labor laws have changed.

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem +3

      Unless you're working for John Landis on a Twilight Zone movie....

    • @LucienSabre
      @LucienSabre Před rokem +5

      They have. It’s the reason why child roles have been and are played by twins - so that directors can do longer hours and still comply with the laws.

  • @jerricablackcat4303
    @jerricablackcat4303 Před rokem +28

    "They say I'm whistle bait. Could be, but I'm forever meeting guys who don't stop at a whistle. I've learned to handle them all."
    - Marilyn Monroe

  • @JohnSydney225
    @JohnSydney225 Před rokem +15

    In that spying section with Harry Cohn, he had Rita Hayworth and Glenn Ford's dressing rooms on "Gilda" (1946) bugged in an attempt to discover the affair the two stars were having. Harry Cohn was always furious that Rita Hayworth, Columbia's biggest star in the 1940s, never slept with him. That, on one hand, explains why most of her movies don't have great writing or the best love interest. He and Columbia were more concerned with showing how popular Rita was just by her name being attached to a film rather than giving her an actual good movie. And the story of Judy Garland's life always leaves me in tears. She had to fight and go through so much.

  • @MagTheSag90
    @MagTheSag90 Před rokem +80

    Ethnic secrecy in name changes were a big one. Like a certain Rita Hayworth.

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Před rokem +4

      John Gavin of Psycho, he became a U.S. ambassador to Mexico after retiring from acting.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem +8

      Lots got their names changed to make them less ethnic, smoother, more commercial, more memorable. Rock Hudson, Judy Garland, Cary Grant, Doris Day, Michael Caine, Joan Crawford.

    • @jimmydaves
      @jimmydaves Před rokem +5

      Rita Hayworth was born "Margarita Cansino". She would have never been a star with that name.

    • @Bert-the-Pooch
      @Bert-the-Pooch Před rokem +3

      @@michaelplunkett8059Although I love their stage names, I wouldn’t mind seeing a Maurice Micklewhite and Archibald Leach flick 😊

  • @HoosierSHU
    @HoosierSHU Před rokem +21

    While some of the best films were made during that time period, the behind the scenes were literally criminal. What they did to women and children to line their own pockets was really shocking. Morality clauses were just "you want to be famous, sign here, we own you." Talk about the devil's contract. Don't forget the teamsters. They were also worked long hours and in terrible conditions.

  • @donnielledorsey6582
    @donnielledorsey6582 Před rokem +38

    People always make the Golden Age of Hollywood sound so amazing buuut, it's pretty abysmal 😅

    • @davestang5454
      @davestang5454 Před rokem

      I will still take that era over Hollywood as it is today. We would all be better off if modern Hollywood went bankrupt and left Los Angeles forever.

    • @rocketmansapprentice
      @rocketmansapprentice Před rokem

      I wonder if the newer Hollywood after WWll came up with the name Old Hollywood 🤔

    • @thehair1474
      @thehair1474 Před rokem

      The one good thing about Old Hollywood is they made better films.

  • @morganhampton9908
    @morganhampton9908 Před rokem +27

    My uncle was a small part of Old Hollywood. I’m saying that because he was an extra in a lot of movies. Janet Leigh write him a letter and they worked on Angles on the Outfield together

  • @firstname__lastname
    @firstname__lastname Před rokem +21

    Black face, yellow face, brown face. How did anybody think that was acceptable?!

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem +4

      Because it was.
      It avoided having films banned in miscegenation areas. Used established stars already heavily invested in. And people once thought acting was creating a personna for a dramatic purpose. Thus Luise Rainer was Oscarworthy for the Good Earth and James Earl Jones was Tony worthy for his Shakespeare.

    • @user-rq2es2io8y
      @user-rq2es2io8y Před měsícem

      It was common. Al Jolson did it all the time. Judy and Mickey were once forced to do a silly number in blackface.

  • @dragonflyy000
    @dragonflyy000 Před rokem +23

    All of this wasn't a HUGE shock, I can see "Hollywood" having her dirty, shameful secrets, she always has, and probably always will. Some were things though, I had absolutely NO clue about, and those few really shook me to my core.
    Very, very sad what some of these people & CHILDREN had to endure. I know Hollywood is still far from perfect today, but I PRAY it's nothing like it was back in the golden years.
    May God Bless Those Souls who were tormented, mistreated, & subjected to miserable things & cruel treatment, ALL in the name of "Entertainment". I pray they are ALLat peace now. ♡

  • @michaelmonthey5974
    @michaelmonthey5974 Před rokem +16

    Although this has been around before Hollywood, painting colors on white actors faces was also common Old Hollywood. The Jazz Singer, Breakfast At Tiffany’s, and West Side Story foe examples.

  • @TheDukeofMadness
    @TheDukeofMadness Před rokem +18

    Like I said when Harvey Weinstein was accused by all those actresses, the casting couch has been around since before Gladys Mary Smith came down from East York, Ontario and married Jack Pickford.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem

      You just had to say no.
      But many wanted the money and fame and were willing to say yes.

  • @bernadettekenaghan3246
    @bernadettekenaghan3246 Před rokem +25

    That needs to change ,there are alot of amazing black actors and they should have alot more recognitions the same level as white actors

  • @RayMcElroy50
    @RayMcElroy50 Před rokem +54

    Nowadays, we have Disney and their own tricks to maintain a good image
    Like forcing actors to date each other

    • @manueltapia1859
      @manueltapia1859 Před rokem +4

      Talking about Disney hipocresy only cares the money!!!!

    • @user-ix1rp9ff3p
      @user-ix1rp9ff3p Před rokem +2

      regarding the second part, smells like the *Philippine entertainment industry* where "love teams" are still part of showbiz, no different from Bollywood

    • @uglybetty8747
      @uglybetty8747 Před rokem +1

      Forcing actors to date each other seems cringe fr

  • @audreyoriordan5926
    @audreyoriordan5926 Před rokem +20

    I remember reading Shirley Temple's biography and it was horrifying. Nobody questioned why the majority of her co stars were men. She was the breadwinner in her family. As she was becoming a teenager, she was forced to wear tight bandages across her chest in order to stop her breasts from growing. Her hair was naturally straight, and she had to endure tightly bound ringlets being foisted upon her every night, to continue the myth that she had naturally curly hair. As an adult, she hinted in her book that most of the producers and directors were men, who sexually assaulted her. 😢

  • @nanasewdear
    @nanasewdear Před rokem +8

    Back in the 60's my mother's movie magazines helped me learn to read, still I was surprised by some of these facts.

  • @sandramorryssa
    @sandramorryssa Před rokem +9

    Realizing they gave their actors drugs is painting celebrities' deaths like Marilyn Monroe in a different light for me. It's almost like an assisted suicide for everyone who died from an overdose.

  • @maryaltshuller885
    @maryaltshuller885 Před rokem +15

    I used to live in So Cal - not LA - and it's not really a nice place. Trash, filth, homelessness and graffiti everywhere. So glad I was able to get out and put CA in my rearview!

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem +1

      I was born and raised in the California Bay Area and we really disliked LA. We went there to go to Disneyland every summer, but in the 60s the car pollution was unbelievable! Especially in LA. There was alway huge brown pollution smudges of gas clogging up the air. I had a great aunt who worked as an actress at Universal studios in the 30s, and she said that in the first part of the century, LA was so beautiful, surrounded by farms and ranches and fruit orchards. You could get a house on the beach for almost nothing, even Greta Garbo lived on the beach before she was famous. It was the hippie enclave of that time. I would have loved to have been there then. Even my mom as a kid did extra work (for ice cream!) If they followed the production crews around downtown watching and begging to be in a scene, which they often were, since kids were a sure fire draw for audiences back then...

    • @grahamdamberger7130
      @grahamdamberger7130 Před rokem +1

      I think a lot of people had to form gangs as a way of looking out for each other as well, since they weren't getting that help from the people who should be helping them in the first place.

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem

      @@grahamdamberger7130
      I think you are right! There were no systems back in the day to protect people, or they were just getting going, so people really were on their own and I think it would have motivated people to congregate into neighborhoods and groups where they felt comfortable. The movie, "The Godfather" was so incredible for showing exactly how important it was for people to have someone who understood them to go to. My dad said in Boston the Irish were so distrusted and feared that they had to form their own organizations to survive, which often led to violence and chaos. They had nothing else at the time, unfortunately...

    • @jaengen
      @jaengen Před rokem

      Good riddance.

    • @craigtalbott731
      @craigtalbott731 Před 5 měsíci

      Much obliged. Now maybe you can explain just exactly what the hell does that has to do w/ the motion picture industry in and of itself?

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +21

    I absolutely enjoyed the pre code Hollywood films

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem +3

      My absolute favorite pre code movie is "Babyface" with a very young Barbara Stanwyck. Anyone who saw her in the tv series, "Big Valley" would be amazed at how incredibly sexy she was in the 30s....

    • @angelaholmes8888
      @angelaholmes8888 Před rokem +2

      @@christineparis5607 I really enjoyed babyface

    • @christineparis5607
      @christineparis5607 Před rokem +3

      @@angelaholmes8888
      I loved it, especially the great friendship between her and her companion who backs her up in her new life...

    • @spikemufc
      @spikemufc Před rokem

      Of course. Hayes code was nothing more than another example of Hollywood's hypocrisy, especially when you consider these facts from the video and many similar ones.

    • @nelliethursday1812
      @nelliethursday1812 Před rokem +1

      @@christineparis5607 Plus her companion was African American a definite rarity

  • @Blakeneyd
    @Blakeneyd Před rokem +8

    With growing trends on nudity and graphic sex (even in tv shows), I’d say they just moved the casting couch in front of the camera.

  • @Wigfield84
    @Wigfield84 Před rokem +6

    This is why, as a classic film fan, I don’t relate to all those that comment about them representing “a simpler innocent time”.

  • @moodyseb
    @moodyseb Před rokem +11

    And they said that "Blonde" is unrealistic.

  • @liverpool2005
    @liverpool2005 Před rokem +10

    Literally every actor and actress in the old Hollywood all had affairs it was so normal back in the day

  • @alp852
    @alp852 Před rokem +5

    #5 doesn’t do the racism in hollywood justice. It wasn’t just at awards shows- but in the industry at large. The few awards that were given to black people were oftentimes based on subservient roles-

  • @OutOfAmmoOutOfTime
    @OutOfAmmoOutOfTime Před rokem +6

    A great list! For those who want to know more: Karina Longworth’s podcast “You Must Remember This” goes into a lot of these issues in great detail……about the lost and/or forgotten histories of Hollywoods first century……

  • @darkangel_1978
    @darkangel_1978 Před rokem +5

    None of this surprised me, but that's because my Mom told me about all of these, when I would watch movies with her. She and my Grandma knew all about this and told me about it when I was growing up.

  • @alienmoosestudios
    @alienmoosestudios Před rokem +1

    Great video 😊 Thanks for sharing 🎥🎞️🎭🎬

  • @thomasm.longiii3752
    @thomasm.longiii3752 Před rokem +19

    I do feel bad for what they had to go through but I’m glad they come a long way with the industry.

  • @muffassa6739
    @muffassa6739 Před rokem

    I love watching your videos but I've always subscribed more than once .

  • @madelainekane760
    @madelainekane760 Před rokem +6

    All of these facts are very unfortunate, but also very true. Despite them being so horrible, I have a kind of morbid curiosity toward the history of Old Hollywood.

  • @mojo500100
    @mojo500100 Před rokem +21

    Good presentation. It’s ironic, though-nowadays child actors have a heap of protective laws, while “wholesomeness” has practically vanished from the movies themselves.
    Except for little-kiddie releases, try and find a big-studio picture now--even excellently produced ones--without abundant profanity, sexuality, and all the vices. It’s kind of sad.

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 Před rokem +6

    The segment about pre code and Hays Code seems to offer pros and cons of both and makes neither one seem a "dark truth".

  • @MariaLopez-ti4oo
    @MariaLopez-ti4oo Před rokem +5

    This list makes us see those old shows and movie different now

  • @craigtalbott731
    @craigtalbott731 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I had an Aunt who was a film/TV actress for over thirty years, and she was familiar w/ several of these aspects presented here. She started out as a child performer (fortunately steering clear of the difficulties occasionally inherent), and then later on transitioning into mature roles. She didn't go in for grandiose productions so thereby she could keep a low profile publicity-wise, and was also able to avoid the problems involving drugs, booze or other addictions, and very morality-based, although I'm certain she probably would now be a lifetime member (involuntarily) of the #MeToo movement. She eventually bowed out of the entertainment biz altogether to settle-down for a family-life, stating that she didn't relish the idea of possessing the drive to continually strive onwards and upwards, but I also have a suspicion that it was to ensure that she wouldn't get burned or eaten up, both from w/in herself and w/out.

  • @vellbariaofficial
    @vellbariaofficial Před rokem +22

    Rita Hayworth got the worst experience and had to drastically change her appearance to look more white than her usual Latina look 😢

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem +5

      Made her gorgeous and broadened her opportunities from just an ethnic dancer. Dietrich lived on coffee and cigarettes, relocated her eyebrows and used makeup and contractual lighting control to build her career and break out of the "fat German Hausfrau" pigeonhole.
      Or poor Harlow, fame came at the cost of having the color stripped from her hair regularly.

    • @jaengen
      @jaengen Před rokem +4

      Rita was white. She was Half Spanish and half English/Irish.

    • @northernlights6459
      @northernlights6459 Před rokem +1

      @@jaengen, I was just going to post exactly the same comment!The lovely Rita Hayworth’s roots were European on both sides.

  • @michellem3050
    @michellem3050 Před rokem +3

    I've always thought it revealing that so many actors talk enthusiastically about a project where they felt "safe" to do their work. What other occupations have to worry about that?

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro Před rokem +5

    Just ONE MORE REASON why I don't believe in the time-honored idiom "the good ol'days."

  • @fredltyler-wt9bn
    @fredltyler-wt9bn Před rokem +8

    The golden age of Hollywood wasn't so golden some of those women had to do something just to get a part and some man had to do the same things a lot of blackmail back the day

  • @user-rq2es2io8y
    @user-rq2es2io8y Před měsícem

    Elizabeth Taylor once remarked that when she (or rather, her parents) signed a contract with MGM she began "serving my sentence" at the studio. She stated the studio treated her "like a chattel."

  • @safahmie
    @safahmie Před rokem +15

    #DarkHistory Bailey Sarian needs to do a child labor law episode.

  • @dinonuggetzz
    @dinonuggetzz Před rokem +2

    Marilyn Monroe words of Hollywood: Hollywood is a place where they’ll pay you $1,000 for a kiss and fifty cents for your soul

  • @mielissa100ify
    @mielissa100ify Před rokem +11

    Why do people act like these problems only exist in Hollywood?

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem

      Because these people were always acted liked that in the industry over the years.

  • @rodscarbrough2337
    @rodscarbrough2337 Před rokem +3

    with all the drugs, abuse and other things . I'm a little surprised anyone would want to be an actor.

  • @hrhargyll
    @hrhargyll Před rokem +7

    I think you should call rape “rape”.

  • @randomfacts3764
    @randomfacts3764 Před 10 měsíci +1

    In the Sulivan's Travel clip it sounds like she is saying "yes mr. smeerkees, no mr. smeerkees". In Dutch a smeerkees is a synonym for a person who is filthy or dirty. Quite fitting in the context of the casting couch. 😂

  • @blugreen123
    @blugreen123 Před rokem +6

    Child labor should have been higher. 😐

  • @geneziogenezio3299
    @geneziogenezio3299 Před dnem

    6:40 I WATCHED THIS MOVIE WITH MY DAD ON SUNDAY IN THE 80'S I WAS JUST ABOUT 7 YEARS OLD, THE LADY ON THE RIGHT WAS JUST AMAZING I NEVER FORGOT HER BEAUTIFUL PERFORMANCE...!!!

  • @Lorna8264
    @Lorna8264 Před rokem +4

    Old Hollywood stars were not real people. Not everyone is beautiful. Thank God we got into it the industry after those days.

  • @Phoenix73377
    @Phoenix73377 Před rokem +1

    Hollywoodland still has so many 'Dark Sides' to it. It was still, at least another Decade or so that they, I guess you could say, 'found the right moments,' to introduce Native Americans and Latinos into the Spotlight and not as battling or in anything else.
    Most younger people have no idea about these kinds of things, so Thank you @MsMojo and everyone that is in the think tank for all of this.

  • @freya8133
    @freya8133 Před rokem +4

    Bette Davis never succumbed to the "I have to look beautiful" myth.

    • @anacristinamonteiro418
      @anacristinamonteiro418 Před rokem

      @@markelijio6012,in what context,that supose quote was said from Bette Davis?!

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem

      @@anacristinamonteiro418 One of them were "I am just too much." Plus, "I've lost my faith in science,"
      "I work to stay alive," "Everybody has a heart. Except some people," "I will never below the title,"
      "To look back is to relax one's vigil," "I survived because I was tougher than anyone else."
      Those were Bette Davis' excellent quotes.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem

      "Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night" - "All About Eve"

  • @raymondtitano3819
    @raymondtitano3819 Před rokem +3

    Yeah, I know I can search on it, but... Would you care to expand on John Gilbert?

  • @Beth_Alice_Kaplan
    @Beth_Alice_Kaplan Před 2 měsíci

    It makes my flesh crawl thinking about the number of actors who were so horribly abused - physically, sexually and emotionally.

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 Před rokem +1

    In most lines of work, you don't get to pick which days you work or which specific tasks you might be assigned. There must be a better way to address the infelicities of studio contracts than that.

  • @OldBittyGrandma
    @OldBittyGrandma Před 7 měsíci

    This video has more truth in it than Scorsese’s history of American Cinema. Bravo!

  • @liviaforeign6630
    @liviaforeign6630 Před rokem

    6:01🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 I wasn't expecting that

  • @ballybunion9
    @ballybunion9 Před rokem +8

    Were stars back then _forced_ to smoke on screen? I know smoking was more socially accepted back then, but it seems like absolutely every big star smoked onscreen. And please don't tell all of them genuinely liked that nasty smell.

    • @PAZO2FAN
      @PAZO2FAN Před rokem

      some of the females were forced to smoke to surpress their appetite to keep them thinner

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem +5

      Back then, smoking was considered cool, sexy and people enjoyed it.
      Studios recommended it to keep stars thin as an appetite suppressant and to help lower the register of high pitched voices to make them sexier.

  • @dmr1537
    @dmr1537 Před rokem +2

    That's why I'm looking forward to the time when A.I. play the roles of actors and actresses.

  • @haleyrose-tq8ck
    @haleyrose-tq8ck Před rokem +2

    My favorite is A Star Is Born

  • @michaelmonthey5974
    @michaelmonthey5974 Před rokem +1

    I’ll never look at movies, especially Old Hollywood movies, in the same light again.

  • @MarquisDeSacks
    @MarquisDeSacks Před rokem +5

    Hollywood gives Babylon a bad name 😆

  • @blueraccoon1088
    @blueraccoon1088 Před rokem +3

    This is why I prefer voice acting i refuse to work on camera and if i get asked I'll request minor cameo. I remember Ashley Johnson made 2 cameos in avengers (the voice of Gwen Tennyson and Rennet) i say 2 is because the ending and a deleted scene as the waitress Beth and one other reason I want voice actors as well acknowledged.

  • @Rosewolf29
    @Rosewolf29 Před rokem +4

    This all just proves being an actor or in entertainment is not as fun as Hollywood makes it seem. as I've said for years, its all about then Benjamins.

  • @storywala88
    @storywala88 Před rokem +1

    Very troubling

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 Před rokem +6

    We all know what has happened to the modern people, who have tried to re start the casting couch culture, like Harvey Weinstein. Let's hope it never comes back.

  • @thomaskinne2357
    @thomaskinne2357 Před rokem +1

    Many people don't know that Henson Studios which used to be A&M Studios was bulit by Charlie Chaplin, when there was nothing else at Sunset & La Brea!

  • @outinsider
    @outinsider Před rokem +2

    The Hays Code made all of these toxicities codified. I don't see how people would want film to returned to heavily censored standards that the Hays Code brought. So many star stories are survival stories.

  • @worstnetizenbasedonmicroso653

    Please create chapters ❤

  • @markelijio6012
    @markelijio6012 Před rokem +2

    Just like Lana Turner who was letting go at Warners in 1956 but she made a comeback for one last time with star/executive producer Bob Hope
    on Academy Award nominated filmmaker Jack Arnold's Oscar nominated romantic classic, "Bachelor in Paradise" - 1961. Produced by Ted Richmond.
    Robert Dorfmann in his American film as co-producer after he won an 1953 Honorary Oscar for "Forbidden Games" and continues to work until Fall 1994.
    Written for the screen by Valentine Davies and Hal Kanter from a story by Vera Caspary. TM and (c)1961, renewed 1989 Turner Entertainment Co.,
    an AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. (c)2002 Warner Bros., an AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.

  • @waittillfamewtf2385
    @waittillfamewtf2385 Před rokem +3

    When you wish upon a Star 🎭

  • @lindseycarribean5113
    @lindseycarribean5113 Před rokem +1

    Number 1 : Casting Couch !!!!

  • @tifanyb3954
    @tifanyb3954 Před rokem +1

    This is why we call Hollywood "Hollyweird".

  • @EmilyKresl
    @EmilyKresl Před rokem +2

    I thought you were going to mention the "casting couch," and how they used asbestos as snow in the wizard of oz, and how they paid women way less for the same hours PLUS controlled their marriages and sex lives, countless actresses were fired simply for being pregnant. Not to mention the fact that women weren't even allowed to direct or work the cameras and they were left out of key production meetings. It was all a good ol' boys club. In fact- can you name 5 female directors???

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem +1

      Barbra Streisand, Kathryn Bigelow, Christine Lahti, Debbie Allen, Lili Fini Zanuck. Five Female Filmmakers.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Před rokem +1

      Plus Callie Khouri, Shirley Sun, Penny Marshall, Sofia Coppola, Nancy Meyers, Shirley MacLaine etc. The List That Goes On and On.

    • @gorge5412
      @gorge5412 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I believe that you are correct, EK. Of course, your comment impliedly focuses on the older, so-called golden age of Hollywood. The only (!) female director (from that earlier era) that I can think of is Ida Lupino.

  • @PrettyPrincess9609
    @PrettyPrincess9609 Před rokem +9

    Why is racism only number 5 ?!

  • @jennaharris6053
    @jennaharris6053 Před rokem +1

    Ooooh I don’t think I ever been in the comments this early for one of these videos. Momma I made it lol.

  • @lorihansen8674
    @lorihansen8674 Před rokem +2

    You make it seem like these behaviors and attitudes have disappeared. I don't think so. The "Time's Up" movement proved this. Child labor laws may have changed the number of on-screen hours but that has nothing to do with other pressures children face, especially young women and body image/ weight gain. Furthermore, the perception Hollywood dispels to the public via movie and tv plots results in societal changes. These changes are not always good.

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 Před rokem +1

    The old studio system was pretty awful. In multiple ways.

  • @nickihere8753
    @nickihere8753 Před rokem

    What’s that last movie with the girl saying “yes Mr. … No Mr. … that’s my knee!” It looks like she gave a good performance and she’s so pretty too!

  • @johnpatterson4816
    @johnpatterson4816 Před rokem +1

    There was nothing"good"about the "good old days".

  • @scotnick59
    @scotnick59 Před 10 měsíci +1

    John Gilbert had a fine speaking voice; wonder what all the fuss was about (his voice being inadequate, I meant)

  • @patmelton43
    @patmelton43 Před rokem

    How to Marry a Millionaire was my favorite show.

  • @Durermac
    @Durermac Před rokem +3

    I don't think anything has really changed In Hollywood.

    • @lornam1142
      @lornam1142 Před rokem

      It’s certainly not as bad as it once was. Human rights have improved in the US overall.