Do Hangboards Improve Finger Strength? An Unbiased Look at the Science | Corporis

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  • Hangboards are everywhere in rock climbing and bouldering gyms. They're usually used to improve grip strength or finger strength, but what does the science say?
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Komentáře • 51

  • @haleybishoff2769
    @haleybishoff2769 Před 2 lety +45

    I never realized how much science there actually was about this! So good Patrick!

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +3

      Heck yeah Haley! There's a world of science behind everything if you know where to look

  • @dingalong14
    @dingalong14 Před 2 lety +9

    This is one of the first videos of yours I've seen and I'm really impressed so far. You speak in a clear, concise manner, cite your sources, and honestly admit when evidence is weak or inconclusive, instead of trying to make it fit a narrative. Great job!

  • @WoLpH
    @WoLpH Před 2 lety +34

    As a guy that's bouldered and climbed a bit and has tried the hangboards quite a bit, here's my anecdotal evidence. For climbing the fingerboards only have limited advantage, your endurance is a much bigger factor for climbing. For bouldering on the other hand, training your fingers is really important and I noticed that (after plateauing a bit) hangboards can make a lot of difference since you're training only the hardest part (at least, it was for me) of bouldering.
    Further, I've heard (not tested mind you) that your muscles can handle a lot in little time while your tendons cannot. So I've always been cautioned to take it easy with my fingers since an injury was likely. So far that has worked :)
    As for my level, I could do most 8A boulders when I was still pretty active.

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +4

      Awesome, thanks for lending your perspective. Your experience lines up with everything I've studied :)

    • @user-ud2yd3gl8p
      @user-ud2yd3gl8p Před 11 měsíci +1

      Would you like to share your finger-strength training program outside of climbing?

    • @arthur3537
      @arthur3537 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@user-ud2yd3gl8p Just using a hangboard for a few minutes each day makes a load of difference when you're bouldering. Just remember that you are far less likely to get injured with a few small sets than with one big one.

    • @Elijahgavi
      @Elijahgavi Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@arthur3537how many days a week and how much did you rest how long did it take to see results

    • @arthur3537
      @arthur3537 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@ElijahgaviTwice a week have a noticeable difference for me within a month already. But you have to be really careful and don't go too fast too soon. Your fingers don't have all that much blood flow to them and get hurt really easily and take a very long time to recover. I would suggest taking at least a year to go from hanging on your hands to hanging by a few fingers.

  • @georgelafner8760
    @georgelafner8760 Před rokem +2

    I can't believe you aren't more popular! Such a clear look at the science and so well explained

  • @corvobranco6896
    @corvobranco6896 Před 2 lety +11

    god damnit patrick, always with such great and creative content

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +1

      Much appreciated. This was a fun one to research

  • @elisabetaarre1753
    @elisabetaarre1753 Před rokem +2

    As a climber and anatomy student this video was (to quote Hanna Montana) the best of both worlds 🙂 Thank you!

  • @C0MPLEXITY
    @C0MPLEXITY Před 2 lety +2

    Understand channel, seen you several times on seeker as well. Great explanations.

  • @Corporis
    @Corporis  Před 2 lety +9

    Have you ever tried hangboarding? What has your experience been?

    • @lorenzomorningstar7794
      @lorenzomorningstar7794 Před 2 lety

      no but would love to someday

    • @Tynamiitti
      @Tynamiitti Před 2 lety

      As a somewhat regular boulderer, my experience in a nutshell: So much pain and it seems to never gets easier. :D

    • @imaginedragon8960
      @imaginedragon8960 Před 2 lety

      Is training on door frame works too?

    • @kingwillie206
      @kingwillie206 Před 2 lety

      I do it but I’m an armwrestler who was already capable of palming an inverted 50lb dumbbell. A hangboard is a waste of time for brand new climbers who doesn’t have sufficient strength to hang. Anyone in that category should focus on BMI, hanging on a pull-up bar, and performing specific armwrestling exercises to strengthen themselves.

    • @dojanglesclimb
      @dojanglesclimb Před rokem

      My personal experience and of those I climb with has been positive. I have not used weight while hangboarding, but have progressed by using smaller holds from 1.5 cm to 8mm. I can tell a big difference in just 7 weeks. Holds that hurt to hang on to now feel comfortable and I feel my core strength has also improved.

  • @gratengelsker7614
    @gratengelsker7614 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You need to specify what kind of protocol they were training on the hangboard. Repeaters train endurance, max hangs train strength

  • @riokinsey2134
    @riokinsey2134 Před rokem +31

    I am not going to attack your work product. I think you've been objective, and your heart is in the right place. However, I am going to add...and people can accept this or not, it is demonstrably true...that if you look at a bodybuilder and a rock climber, you will see similar hypertrophy in the lower arms. HOWEVER, have them flex and wiggle their hands and digits. The tendons...NO COMPARISON. If they've been doing it for five or more years, the tendon might be 3x the thickness of the bodybuilder. This should be no surprise. Experienced rock climbers ive seen dont complain neither so much about forearm nor fingers, but tendon pain. It seems to be what is getting hammered. Tendons are PROVEN to grow from long, sustained bouts of continued constant tension. Lots of blood flow and metabolic stress to the muscles throughout the lower limb. Rock climbing is a perfect storm of hypertrophy stimulation , particularly for the tendons. These guys, such as my friend Kevin palko, are known for having outrageous levels of lower limb strength and work capacity. He can train side pressure very hard, and typically not get injured, and recover from his workouts faster than his cohorts. Why? Well, when coupled with other examples,, a logical deduction is there is a strong correlation to his climbing and how it has altered their anatomy favorably. I encourage you to watch this guys videos on CZcams, if you are in to armwrestling or hand strength and fitness in general. All this said, I like your video, and presentation style. Subscribed :)

  • @daphenomenalz4100
    @daphenomenalz4100 Před 2 lety +4

    I used to climb walls and floors like this so many times🤣. But god those rough surfaces always scratch and i ended up having blood all over my hands. It's fun but pain at the same time, i left doing it but will get back to it cuz i love to climb and run(of course in a safer place like gym and such)

  • @daskaffeetschal8635
    @daskaffeetschal8635 Před 2 lety +4

    so cool to know u also climb / boulder! What is your route which u were most proud of?

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +1

      Ooooh good question. I did a V3 at a gym in San Francisco where I had to get horizontal quite a bit. While it was only a V3, it was the most challenging thing I'd done at that point

  • @nivekakninblarg8076
    @nivekakninblarg8076 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't really care much for muscle strength, but from what I know, the biggest factor in muscle strength is glycogen storage. Excluding tendon strength and endurance, which depend more on factors like collagen structure, blood flow, and mitochondria(the powerhouse of the cell) remodeling.

  • @sour_lemon_00
    @sour_lemon_00 Před rokem +1

    I love Grip amd gripsport. One reason I train grip is to strengthen tendons. In 6 months I've gained so much grip power. Thx for this great video

    • @Elijahgavi
      @Elijahgavi Před 2 měsíci

      How often did you rest ? Did you gain strength in fingers

  • @TheJenjen2300
    @TheJenjen2300 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I would’ve appreciated more of an answer than “we can stick to weights.” Does that mean just traditional pull weight training ?

  • @muayboran6111
    @muayboran6111 Před rokem

    My right grip used to be super strong from tennis, I did 1 handed back hand... I don't play tennis anymore and I gradually lost it

  • @URWELCOME
    @URWELCOME Před 2 lety +3

    I used to climb in my childhood and adolescence and my forearm, palm and fingers are thicker than most people

  • @umertheclumsytube193
    @umertheclumsytube193 Před rokem +1

    I’m using this for volleyball 😅

  • @apocalypse487
    @apocalypse487 Před 2 lety +3

    I ended up splitting a sesamoid bone in my foot while rock climbing for the first time. I had fun until I had to limp 4 miles back to my car.

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +1

      Bro. That sounds like a rough day. Have you climbed since then?

  • @grimpisme
    @grimpisme Před 20 dny

    Hangboarding is the best way to prevent climbers from injuries, especially with beginners. So it's a crucial tool.

  • @madbov7370
    @madbov7370 Před rokem

    What I found as a beginner use a dumbbell go increase finger strength

  • @bbfletch268
    @bbfletch268 Před rokem

    What defines an 'experienced climber'?

  • @SnowmansApartment
    @SnowmansApartment Před 2 lety +2

    an eight week training to see who improves most sounds weird, i have been hangboarding for almost 4 months and haven‘t improved a bit. I might be ding a lot wrong 😄

  • @weavermarquez1271
    @weavermarquez1271 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you very much for this video! There are so many myths and folk kniwledges about anatomy with grip and hands especially. I want to ask, have you seen any research into office ergonomics, especially with ergonomic computer equipment and keyboards? I'm wondering where diminishing returns existz and whether certain risks can or can't be prevented with exercise.

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +2

      I haven't been able to find as much rigorous research as I'd like, but I did a video on a friend's channel last year that might help: czcams.com/video/_Yv_Dp5P-ro/video.html

  • @lorenzomorningstar7794

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  • @bioZone101
    @bioZone101 Před 2 lety +1

    A dead hang is what my week does on Wednesday...

    • @Corporis
      @Corporis  Před 2 lety +2

      Where's an eye rolling gif when I need it...

  • @scrivnerrob
    @scrivnerrob Před 5 měsíci +1

    As a physical therapist and climber who has enjoyed your channel for years, I sadly have to say that you've done a major disservice by leaving out the tremendous research of Eva López-Rivera on this topic.

  • @stayhardHAHAH
    @stayhardHAHAH Před 3 měsíci

    Trying to crush my friends hand when i shake them

  • @pargolf3158
    @pargolf3158 Před 2 lety

    I don't know if they improve finger strength, but I know that they turn every other fingernail black.

  • @muhammadhaqqulyaqin_yayak
    @muhammadhaqqulyaqin_yayak Před 4 měsíci

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    Please make a 10 or 8 minute exercise video with a variety of movements:
    Bodyweight exercises and Dumbbell exercises for :
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    and also ask for your help in making a video of exercises for the fingers, soles of the feet, palms, toes.......
    and exercise for symmetrical slanted bodies such as shoulders, face and other body parts.....
    And tall sports / to increase body height such as basketball athletes, cardio sports with and without dumbbells, as well as delicious bulking and cutting, recipes for delicious food and healthy food that we can cook at home......
    Don't forget to upload warm-up and cool-down videos with and without dumbbells I hope the video can be uploaded soon for my practice at home and I will share it with my friends.
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  • @WillTheFrozen
    @WillTheFrozen Před 2 lety +1

    hangboarding makes you better at hangboarding.

  • @DoubtingThomasTestsEverything

    If you want to injure some random guy / new climber, give him a hang board lol

  • @stevenhaskell9025
    @stevenhaskell9025 Před rokem +5

    woman… woman would benefit for the guys using finger boards.