Typing vs. Handwriting: Which Is Better for Your Memory?
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I would always type my notes in class. Then when it came time for the test, I’d take a pencil and rewrite those notes I’d typed. Great way to remember the stuff.
What I did was just record the lecture and then try to understand it while in the lecture. May be I make small notes. But once go home I write it again while listening to the recording to make a perfect note.
Handwritting makes me tired because I always want everything perfect
Try a pencil, you can erase as you go along. It looks better, too.
even better, use a friction pen
You shouldn’t care whether it’s perfect or not as long as you can learn. I write faster than an average person and I assure you it’s better to write fast than to write perfectly. After all we aren’t in a calligraphy class, but we are taking notes in order to summarize just like the video presented.
Yas totally
same-
I had a professor restructure his class and it worked amazingly. He recorded a lecture with video/audio/slides, then he put it up on the class blackboard site. You watched and reviewed the lecture yourself, at your own pace. Then when it came to class time, you came in with your specific questions and he would answer them in-depth.
New concept. Record the lecture audio, write notes, listen to speaker, review notes and audio hours later, get a good nights sleep, ace every test. Works 100% of the time.
Yes, but no every lecturer is comfortable with the idea of being recorded. They make that very clear sometimes. So you really have to adjust based on your classes (and no I'm not gonna secretly record them, that's wrong).
I tried that some years ago. Teachers said I wasn't allowed.
You see, but you have me, who will never re-listen to the lectures because of procrastination.
A+ advice.
And I've never had a problem with recording lectures....... because I don't ask lol. I do it undercover and use it for my own personal use. I don't mention it to anyone and never share the file bc I never got permission in the first place.
+ Daniel
You're paying for that information, it's unethical to prohibit recording what you paid for. They legally have to allow recording in the first place under disability laws for several reasons such as those with impaired hearing or be required to provide a transcript. It's discrimination to allow one person free access to the information they paid for due to a disability and not to those who do not have one.
The file size of typing is less than handwriting so I’d say handwriting is better for memory.
Nice one bro
lol 12tb hdd size is same as a book but the hdd can store thousand times more! (hdd is smaller )
I took a lot of notes (handwritten) but it didn't improve my memory. Sketches are the best way to remember something
i thought this was pun intended so it made no sense
That joke would of been "lit" had the word "your" not been in the title.
I prefer handwriting even though mine is terrible
Beatrice Macdonald period ( idk if I’m poly or bi tho lol )
Drawing on a tablet is the next best thing, since part of the benefit is centralizing all your notes
that's what i do lolz
I do that
Unless your too broke to afford a 'drawing tablet or a tablet that draws' :)
Samesies. I love writing on my iPad.
Had a bike accident, because too long car parked in a too short parking space in a curve: Rolled away, everythings fine, but laptop-screen broke. Display is still visible, but the touch is useless now. Point in case: even if you take notes on a laptop, if you need to work on them from anywhere, but your home, get paper or an iPad (my iPad survived the accident, don't know about newer models though)
i can't make out my own handwriting ....and can only type with two fingers
i can write neatly as fast as possible , also i can type with 7 fingers at 40 wpm
Go take classes
I think when writing you remember it better because you have to think more about it?
exactly
I've always learned that physically writing things down helps you remember them better. And for me, at least, this has always been the case and my go to method for studying for tests. I just rewrite the information/material/notes, a few times and I will always remember it for my test. Something about the writing process, I don't know why, but yea that one will always be the superior method for me. I don't remember jack doodley squat that I type. Hell, I barely remember the comments that I've typed until I get a notification for someone replying to it and then I'm like, what? Did I write that??? XD
If you write it down you can always look at it later!!!
In support of laptop notes: I don't type verbatim, I can keep my typed notes more available, organized, and neat, and it is where education is evolving towards.
why not just use an audio to text app and condense it later on when going over the transcript? Then you can fully take in the whole lecture.
Yes
Taking notes didn't always help that much for me because it heavily depended on the teachers themselves and not how I took my notes. No matter if it was writing by hand, typing it down, or even recording the lesson... the person doing the lesson is what is most important in my opinion. Depending on how the teachers presented the information, what was presented, and what we were actually tested on, how useful my notes were would drastically change and how well I did in class would change as well. If the teachers only taught orally then my notes would be a hit or miss, and would be especially bad if the teachers emphasized certain things, but then mainly tested us on the things that were only briefly mentioned. If the teachers only taught by writing notes on the board and had us copy it down, it was also hit or miss because the teachers usually didn't explain it to us before they introduced more notes copy down. A teacher that would write notes on the board, allowed us to copy it down, and then explained it in detail before erasing it and continuing on to the next set of notes seemed to work the best, especially if they actually tested us on what was taught instead of trying to always throw out curveballs, but that kind of teacher was rare.
I exclusively took hand written notes a few years ago in college, and I feel it really helped me retain the lecture information. I tried taking notes on a laptop once or twice and I could tell it definitely made a difference in my understanding and retention of the info.
At uni, I mostly used mindmaps for notetaking. And it worked amazingly well -- a whole lecture (90 min) at one glance on one double page. I had my own colour coding system for different kind of branches (main concepts, related stuff, examples, ...), threw in little boxes with formulas and quotes. And added little sketches or icons to emphasize stuff.
So neither notetaking nor typing :)
So you did the mindmaps on paper?
@@muniramalik313 Yes. For one, it was the mid-90s. And two, I still feel it's hard even today to get electronic mindmaps to be as individual and expressive as hand"written" ones.
I just started college last year, and I decided on using an iPad Pro with Apple Pencil to take my notes. It’s essentially like taking notes with pen and paper but without having to carry sooo many notebooks at once. Plus, I can group my handwritten notes with the lecture slides to make it easy to review 😄
You should do a video on digital hand writing (on a tablet) vs traditional handwriting. Is there a difference in your ability to memorize one better than the other? Or is it just simply the act of handwriting, and it does not matter if it's digital or pen and paper? Would be an interesting video!
Pencils use graphite, no?
nikkidancergirl yes they do.
He said it feels archaec to pick up a wooden pencil (graphite) than a mechanical one (lead), nowadays.
nikkidancergirl yep
nikkidancergirl nope, all use toxic lead: at least if the government is trying to eliminate the lower class youth by proactively giving them cancers knowing that the middle class will donate money towards the treatment; therefore encompassing each of the 4 wealth classes' in their circadian control.
Alamgam I hope you're joking.
Alamgam well we call it grafite in Brazil so I'm guessing that shit is graphite
My professors talk fast af, so I type my notes then later while I'm studying I write them down on a notebook
Me too!
Alan Hernandez what are your grades like by doing this method I’m about to start college and I would like to know
When I write by hand while someone is speaking, I focus on the writing, while if I write on the computer I can do it without losing too much focus on the person speaking.
Do you touch type?
Cryptonymicus Depends on which keyboard I am using. But most often yes.
my first semester in college was the first time in my entire academic career that i got straight A's and i attribute this to ditching my phone & laptop and bringing only pencil and paper to my lectures. i couldn't reply to text messages or open new tabs on my browser to start doing something else which were bad habits i had when i took notes on my laptop. it was tough though because some of my professors never liked to backtrack but i quickly adapted to it by developing my own style of shorthand so that i could keep up but still understand what i have written when i go back to review it.
but i definitely see the benefits of writing down a lecture verbatim, that way you can go back and highlight or maybe even rewrite the bits that you remembered were important. sometimes i find myself wishing i wrote something down instead of dismissing it as insignificant
Good old handwriting will always win
sounds like human error, what if students type key words instead of trying to type the whole lecture?
i imagine it would have similar effect to taking notes, while being faster = more time paying attention
Questn
Nope
Questn Yep, at least until all humans have died off. Then maybe whatever alien species are out there...
In some lectures I only concentrate on writing because the professor is so fucking fast. In the end I can't remember anything (not even the last few sentences while writing) and I can't even read my notes afterwards because my handwriting is really bad when writing very fast... I absolutely hate it and would rather listen to the professor instead of taking a fast-writing course with zero information input.
Questn 100TH like 😅
I'm with ya, migo!
For chemistry, anatomy & physiology and history I found that what worked best for me was to read the text book, listen to and record the lecture while hand writing notes, then listen to the recording, cross-referencing with my notes then finally read the text book once more. That helped a lot to assimilate the information. Algebra was more about learning a skill. The principles were easy enough to grasp, but it just takes practice, practice, practice. The other stuff was more concept and less skill. Algebra was all about skill with relatively simple concepts.
Personally I love handwriting, that sense of nostalgia from creative writing hundreds of pages as a kid.
Preparing notes always helped me to organize my learning content. those materials are really easy to read and understand later than printed notes and textbooks.
I use my ears to take notes
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You can do that while typing. You just need to do it right. When I was in school I would try to write an outline in propper format as it was going on. That way I was organizing it and bullet pointing as I went.
@Seeker GREAT show Trace! I’ve been trying to tell my Godson this for 2 years. He can’t separate looking my notes and them being so minimal v. him using a laptop. Explaining how certain gifts can reduce what I needed to capture and translate for myself and him typing every World is near impossible. So Thanks‼️
Handwriting notes also gives you the ability to use shorthand, connecting arrows, and drawn diagrams. If I don't have a tablet with a stylus, I'd go with pen and paper notes. Paper notebooks also don't crash/run out of energy and are much less likely to be stolen.
I think a major contributing factor to notes being more effective, and leading to better grades is it forces you to quickly summarize and then your short hand notes also forces you to interoperate and further research so comprehension is truly acquired before you can continue. After you fully understand the concept you can provide your informed interpretation of the information given, opposed to regurgitating an unfamiliar concept leading to the perception of plagiarism, or actual plagiarism due to inability to truly comprehend the information copied word for word on an LCD screen
Handwriting cannot be beaten. You use more senses and that makes it a better way to retain information. Even the smell of your pencil adds to this effect. It takes more time yes and this is one more reason to understand that with more effort, more you retain.
Can you make a separate playlist on your channel for study skills and explain them and how they work scientifically so we can implement them better
what i love about paper(or using a table if you prefer that) is that you can draw on it
i usually use symbol,arrow and other stuff to shorten my note
dam you definitely learn something new every day thanks seeker/dnews
I would assume that typing could potentially be as good as written notes depending on how you write them. Maybe trying to write verbatim and not summarising what was said is the problem. My hypothesis is that if you type out shorthand and summarise what you hear that it could be as good as writing it out summarised shorthand.
i personally have handwritten all my notes in high school, but that might change when i go to college. although i present a possibly interesting idea: what if you typed the notes in class to get all the exact ideas, then hand wrote verbatim when you got home? surely that would be more beneficial, viewing and rewriting the notes twice.
This was my secret to beating the curve. I was never good at typing and laptops were too much of a distraction so I wrote everything by hand. With a brief review before the test I'd usually get the highest marks and all the students that relied on the curve to get a passing grade would fail.
This is why I still use 🖋 & 🗒.
I blog on my 💻, but most of my longform is done on my manual typewriter.
Yup, I still write by hand. I use a fountain pen because the ink flows smoother, causing less hand cramps and making my writing look nicer. Also helps me focus because it's easy to make pretty lines with when I need to stay engaged by drawing.
Try it out. I use a pen that sucks up the ink so I'm not dealing with messy and expensive cartridges.
They should do a video on photographic memory and how to have it
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They did
Sam 77 I have one, .... I just need to find the SD card though...
It's actually been proven false nobody has it. Some people just have an incredible memory.
I read somewhere that it didn't exist, it's just extreme mnemotecnia
I find that the efficiency of typing allows me more time and attention to listen to the speaker, whereas handwriting compensates my attention, since I have to spend more effort writing quickly and legibly. Even though it may increase the retention of what I'm writing down at the moment, new information that is given while I write is hard to take in simultaneously.
Thanks for the video, I will take handwritten notes now instead of in my laptop as usual.
Yes my friend, you're right. I am from the old schooling and I understand what you have said and is true. From Colombia thanks.
So If I actively summarize and take notes on my laptop then it is as good as writing on notebook except that I can easily add more to it later and my typing speed is faster than writing. Plus I can add relevant images too for making it easier to remember stuff by association.
So, I’ve always preferred handwriting notes in class/ during lecture on paper. But, notes before the lecture are done on my iPad and when I review I again write using both of the notes for revision then kept in a binder.
Hi. What if you summarize what you type during a lecture, is that equivalent to summarizing and handwriting notes? I am in high school to be precise, last year... and I started typing since 1 1/2 years ago, and it has changed to an extent, I was excited first, made efforts to arrange properly, recap, but later on, it became sort of boring to type notes, and now I'm back to writing.
To me, I still think typing is better than writing, the idea that it is much faster is the key point. One can get as many facts from class as possible, and then within the day, that person can review and make changes/summarize. That works for me.
When I went back to school to get a second degree, I started with a cheap 2 in 1 tablet/netbook. I was maintaining a 3.5 GPA, but was really struggling. One day my 2 in 1 broke, thanks to my hyper active dog, and I knew I wanted something much better. I picked up a SP3 that had just came out, and religiously used the full version of OneNote and the Surface pen to take notes. I found that my study sessions were shorter and my GPA went up to a 3.8 by the time I graduated. I agree that hand writing class notes is way better for a lot of people.
I take notes on a pad all day while I'm on the phones at work. It seems like writing words on a page is similar to the way that a music CD has encoded information that not only holds the music files but the instructions of how to play them and the metadata about the album itself.
How about using a Surface Pro and the Surface Pen and write on the tablet screen?
he did mention tht towards the end of the vid.
I never thought about that!
I liked the idea because it combine the benefits of handwritting with accessibility of digital stuff. I googled it and got angry because things in Brazil are usually much more expensive
Leona, there are good alternatives to Surface Pen. I recently bought a chinese 2-in-1 PC. It works as a netbook/tablet. Just take a look at the reviews of the *Cube Mix Plus* here on CZcams. There's also a brazilian Facebook group about this cool tablet.
About note-taking: I'm a studying programming and most of my fellow students can not take notes in code (only a few of them take any notes on paper), this is incredibly painfull, when you are taking about basic concepts like: "if A happens then add 2+5 and store it in the variable x";
most would write down what I said, word by word, but they could just write: "if (A) { x = 2+5; }", which is exactly the same.
I do not like taking notes on the computer, but I like using my phone for taking notes. Also, I realize I still type quickly on my touchscreen and keyboard on my laptop. Actually I now notice a huge difference that writing on paper actually does help you retain more information, learn better by writing in your own handwriting, and there are a lot of benefits for writing in your handwriting.
I rather take notes by handwriting than typing truthfully.
In engineering lectures, hand writing is the preferred way because you often need to jot down a quick diagram or picture to help explain something. That's no so easy on a laptop
Well it is if you have a pen and the proper laptop.
I find mindmaps + little conceptual doodles useful for most any topic. Also I find writing in all caps more legible for handwriting
Listening to this was interesting, as all the way through school and college I hand wrote notes, while at university I typed notes all the way through. I achieved more consistently higher grades in University with the typed notes then I did with handwritten notes. Although my typed notes where always summaries of what was being said as I was also recording the lectures so I could always go back if needed.
Any recommendations for how to set up hand written notes on a tablet? Any apps for Android? Looks like the best of both worlds
TIL "Ebbinghaus' Forgetting Curve" is a thing :|
Sebastian Elytron ITS AWESOME RIGHT?
That curve is such a scam , never works.
What if I write notes and then reread them as I scan them into a searchable PDF format and then use OCR software to convert the notes to text and then use the text to speech option as I review the notes again to involve more senses to try to retain more information? Then what if I copy that text into quizlet for further flash card practice? Then what if having that info in a PDF/quizlet format in a cloud/app makes it more accessible so I can study it during downtime, like while waiting in an understaffed Walmart line, instead of scrolling through Facebook during that time. Would this repeatability and intensity help further retention in memorizing facts? Would this study even be possible due to all of the competing variables?
Back when u was in school I needed to write everything said just about because I have auditory processing disorder and it's really hard for me to process what's being said to me so i had to write everything down quickly to be able to study properly now if there's lots of visual aids involved it's much easier but still difficult at times
With practice, you can learn to print/write quickly. And reviewing your notes soon thereafter helps clear up any ambiguities.
I bought a thinkpad 2 in 1 for college, if you have a mac you can make it do the same just open the hinge to 360 degrees and dont worry if it takes a little force it will break in.
I'm very visual, I can recall a note I wrote down and actually visualize the note on the page. It helps with names and places most of the time. I've tried typing notes and have been too detail oriented and jotted down bits that are not helpful to me. I guess I have a whole system in my recollection too.
Having hand written notes and then using both them to revise I wonder what would be better
Typing is so much faster, but I never remember a I type because of how much focus I put into typing the words itself.
You have to have a ton of skills to handwrite though, gosh.
thebahooplamaster
Teacher: Okay we're going to move on--
Me: HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!
Ethan -same.
thebahooplamaster forget the typing and concentrate on improving your basic English language grammar, spelling, & syntax, it's far better to understand 3 words than to text 100 words
Which is precisely the point of this video
@Håkan Lundberg I can type much faster than handwriting. And you can't do all those things digitally? Ridiculous. Sometimes I find the spatial diversity of handwriting more helpful for certain topics, but in my CS class, my professor FORCED us to write our notes, even though we had to write code. Handwriting code is terrible. I can type my notes faster, spend more time focusing on the lecture, and review the few key words that took me even less time to type than to write later. Handwriting, on the other hand, always took me a lot longer to write, and I spent less time paying attention to my teacher and more to my "art" trying to figure out how to make it more memorable or clean, only to have to erase stuff and spend more time doing that when I could have simply used Ctrl+z or simply, backspace. This isn't so clear cut. Some people much prefer to type than to write if they can.
I prefer handwriting my notes but as a college student, there is a lot of information that students need to digest in the given amount during lecture. So much that keeping up and writing down everything important is nearly impossible; especially when the professor doesn't even pause to breathe. I've always processed information better writing it ... As much as I want to hand write my notes, I can't since typing is the only way for me to keep up with my professor.
I don’t even write that much during the lecture. I record the lecture with my smartphone. And upload it to CZcams to share it with my other classmates who missed the class or for me to review later. It really helps when exams come around.
The most important thing is summarizing a concept. Whether you do it on on computer or in hand written, both have equal benefits. That's what I believe.
Could the encoded messages for our brain be the reason why, we seem to retain the information we write down more ?
Ik theres a study about making your own acromyns is bennifical for memory, i wonder if this is along the same lines
What about learning before typing/writing
P.S. Since typing is faster and than writing and I'm left handed so writing is hard for me
Handwriting works better, generally. Writing involves more modalities being used to create memories. Even if part of say your visual memory did not store as that particular memory, you may recall that memory anyway because you did store the proprioceptive memory from your hand's movements.
Forget writing stuff down that never worked for me. Every textbook I never looked at bring on video/voice recording lesions.
You can use S pen /apple pen , best of both worlds
Where do you get these super cool Tees
The only times I've taken notes is when the teacher forced it, although that was largely a literal insertion of parts of the lecture into blanks...
Oddly enough, the only times I've had difficulty remembering the lecture was when I slept through it, even going so far as to completely neglect getting a textbook for my college economics class and not doing any assigned homework in AP calculus BC (did great in both classes)
Can you guys help me? I'm in 3rd grade and need to choose between a economic class and a physics class. I'm really good at economics but like the physics class more but i find it really hard. wich one should i choose?
KopHoofd Econ my guy
Trace, do you know of any evidence that suggests any differences between summarizing while handwriting and summarizing while typing? If there is no significant difference, then that may mean that typing itself is not bad, but rather, the way a lot of people type.
I wish I could get the answer for when typing vs writing outside of lecture settings. I wanna know the difference in memory retention when I'm just paraphrasing and summarizing from a text, for instance. Not when in class making notes from a teachers lesson. Even googling stuides keeps giving me this scenario instead.
What would the difference be in writing with a stylus pen on a tablet v.s writing with a pencil on paper? Which one is more beneficial?
I have tried to find studies on how writing and reading affects on our drawing skills. But I guess no one has done it yet.
I constantly write in notepads. In fact, most of my tweets were handwritten first. I took written notes in college and I typed notes in graduate school. I can type 100 wpm, but I like writing because it is safe, secure, easy and fun. I use a pen and I taught myself to write left handed, so I write with both hands. Good luck.
Pencils pens or mechanical pencils which one is your favorite writing utensil or have you use something different that's better
I enjoyed this presentation. Seeker (formerly DNews) produced this without any blatant sponsor insertion and it was just the right length for my attention span.
I prefer handwriting my notes, but I've not been in a classroom setting in years. Maybe some hybrid form would work best for me. You know, have a laptop open with a document program and a (physical) notepad available too. I believe the typed notes work best for listed and table-ized information and the other stuff presented by a lecturer noted down by hand.
My take on this is that when you are handwriting, each letter is a different stroke/style from another letter and this may help your brain to remember stuff, whereas when typing on a laptop or phone ur using the same action that is the pushing of a button and hence the brain perceives this all as same information,Hence the reduced memory.
I always type out summaries for myself. And then I can actually read it, store it, and share it easily! Go figure.
I remember making some of the tiniest little cheat sheets for classes in high school . . . they were miniature masterpieces, and guess what . . . when time came to take the test, such as vocabulary in German class, I did not need to look at them at all!
Thanks nice video
I try to not copy verbatim but summarize, explain, or otherwise translate what my professor says into something faster to type, but also easier for me to understand. It helps since I can barely write legibly so typing is my only option. It just is hard when I have a prof that talks too fast ‘cause then I have to work overtime and get exhausted by mid-lecture.
drawing a mindmap with branches contain headlines then more branches
with conecpts keep me focused and interactive with any lecture
or video course.
I always write my notes, then when I get home I rewrite them over and over until it's a fluent language to me
What if i encode the lecture and type these notes and consciously working against copying word for word? Wouldn‘t that be somehow the smartest thing?
Note taking adds somatosensory approach to learning. Especially "doodling". When you use a laptop, you don't add a visuo-spatial component to note taking. So sitting in a lecture, listening, watching and note taking creates a three way emphasis on memory retention. Add emotional (like an event or tie the memory to a song) and you'll remember most things. Don't forget to just quickly repeat memory daily for a week to retain 70%. The more you make it into a story, the more you remember.
I write articles from lengthy audio interviews I do. I transcribe and print them, then handwrite the article by pencil, type it up and finally edit it into the article. The pencil stage enables the most creativity for me.
Does anyone know what type a pencil dude was using at the end.... ?
I can read information put down 400 years ago. Will the typing only person be able to retrieve data from original notes written 20 years ago?
I read Matthew’s Greenlight biography and one of the quotes in it was “I wrote a journal not to remember, but to forget”
i mixed both, for a long time i wrote all my notes at uni then bought a surface pro to write my notes on the table instead. helped me organise better and probably justified the cost a little by not buying paper and pens :P
actually I summerize a lecture on my laptop during it. I dont blindly copy. is that bad to?
Voicerecording what the prof says and sleeping while doibg so seems the most efficient way
Any research on non verbatim computer notes?
I was at a university recently, most people still take notes by hand. I usually review my notes by typing them up after filling in gaps and making them nice n' neat for future review.
I really want to learn steno/shorthand writing... (wonder if there's a Udemy/Khan Academy video lesson about it...)
Learning is always an odd topic, by the time we've finished school.. we don't question why we do it.. its simply accepted as what you do at school to keep from being bored (sometimes). But really its practice or chosing to pay attention based on the idea what you learn will be useful in the future, even vital.. which most of us long ago stopped believing. Even College is the "new" promise of getting a job (but not even high paying anymore). Suceeding is more a question of guessing right, and generating personal interest in the things we try to learn.. and accepting we will fail sometimes and try again, we don't get partial credit for that and we risk injury to self confidence.. which can last a long time.. so the older we get, the less risk we take. Its a complex subject with a lot of conflicting motivations and strategies we either participate in.. or accept thrust upon us.
For wrighting down notes i usd handwriting, but for pretty much everything else (like work) i type