How Halo 3 Uses Mystery to CAPTIVATE (ft. Frogarchist)

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  • čas přidán 5. 05. 2024
  • Special thanks to @frogarchist for his collaboration in this video!
    If you could describe Halo 3 in one word, what would it be? If you ask me it would definitely be MYSTERY. The one throughline that connects the original trilogy together and gives us a satisfying conclusion to Bungie's story is exactly that. In this video essay, I dive into the mystery surrounding Bungie's Halo 3.
    Make sure to check out my other videos on the original Halo trilogy, as well as my essay and tribute to Rooster Teeth's Red vs. Blue! Let me know what game, show, or movie I should discuss next in the comments. Thanks for watching! #themysteryofhalo #halo3 #bungie
    Check out my other work on Instagram: @themeaninginbetween.
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Komentáře • 72

  • @frogarchist
    @frogarchist Před 29 dny +75

    Thanks for letting me be in your video 🙂

  • @rex3457
    @rex3457 Před 28 dny +15

    It's refreshing to see a video discussing halo as it was in 2007 rather than what halo is now. People often forget that for years halo 3 was the end of halo and the master chief, an ending I still think was perfect. Halo 3 is my favourite in the series despite the flaws in the campaigns writing and pacing. It really felt like the end of halo back in 2007 especially with "never forget" in the main menu.
    The series hasn't felt the same since 2007 and it's a shame there's no way to experience what it was originally

  • @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime

    Frogarchist? I was literally just watching a video of his

  • @Nichrysalis
    @Nichrysalis Před 29 dny +12

    Covering the ODST Dante's Inferno subtext and subsequent dovetailing of the B-plot is always a hit amongst Halo fans, even if well known already. Given your background and gusto, that'd probably be a good video to tackle someday.
    My gut instinct is always going to be to tell other writers to write what you love (then cull your darlings of course) and while I'd love to write about the ODST subtext, I'm working on my own Halo video essay that's pretty much something mostly specific to me, but am hoping to explain why it impacts me so much. And that alone keeps me motivated.
    Long-winded way of saying, write videos about Halo that make you happy, I'm going to support them regardless because I respect your take on the franchise you provide a perspective and presentation outside my own.

  • @Wernissage
    @Wernissage Před 29 dny +4

    Your content is on another level! Keep it up🔥
    Nice to see the frog himself make an appearance too!

  • @TheArchaeon7777
    @TheArchaeon7777 Před 28 dny +4

    13:50 Goddamn, dude. Nearly brought me to tears. Thinkin' about the ending to season 13 of Red vs. Blue. Excellent video!

  • @Krypta777
    @Krypta777 Před dnem

    "A sense of wonder that was never meant to be squashed by someone's attempts to fill in the gaps" 11:59
    Makes me think of a certain quoted philosophy in the world of music:
    "The music is not in the notes, but in the silence between"
    Cant help but see the analogy there with mystery as a device in storytelling/world-building
    Outstanding discussions in these videos 👍👍

  • @th3craftymin3r32
    @th3craftymin3r32 Před 23 dny

    When I watch people's videos about old Halo, some of them GET certain elements of what made those older games so great. After watching some of your videos, You really understand and have also reminded me how deep the old games went with their story and themes. I've been recently letting myself get gaslit into thinking that Halo has always had a simple story but that obviously isn't the case, and I love these types of videos that put a spotlight on the writing of the old games and what made them so special.

  • @LOLDUDE641
    @LOLDUDE641 Před 26 dny +1

    I'm so happy to see someone give Halo 3's story the props it deserves. Feels like some people have turned hard on it in recent years. But you've definitely laid out some of its triumphs, and reasons why I love it so to this day.
    On another note, great content to start this channel out with! Your videos are really well-shot and edited, and your insight is incredibly captivating. If I could suggest just one game to dissect (provided you're into boomer shooters), it'd be Dusk. It has immaculate atmosphere and a really compelling narrative that's only really drip-fed to the player, in my opinion. I'd love to see your explanation of a story like that. Otherwise, I wish you the best of luck with your future videos!

  • @tristancrumpler400
    @tristancrumpler400 Před 29 dny +8

    Man, you knocked it out of the park on this analysis of Halo 3 tailers. There was a ton of hype. And that's real. But the message of hope... the idea that MC (In other words we) could finish the fight was so real. Love this stuff man. Keep it up.

  • @feymasons.7835
    @feymasons.7835 Před 26 dny +1

    A flood deep dive videox2ould go crazy. Also, can you please analyze all the halo gam3s?

  • @crossby75th88
    @crossby75th88 Před 28 dny +2

    This dude only having 1.28k subscribers is a crime, at least 500k

  • @stickyman05
    @stickyman05 Před 26 dny +1

    Wait a second, thats a frog!

  • @Real_Zaneko
    @Real_Zaneko Před 29 dny +3

    I love seeing your channel pop off. You really deserve it!😎

  • @Retroplayer6472
    @Retroplayer6472 Před 26 dny +1

    Already liked this guy's vids now the frog is here?! Hell yeah

  • @P0Wmrang
    @P0Wmrang Před 26 dny +1

    Next up on the halo video guest list: B00mrang, the creator of the micro hit machinima series CRASH.

  • @hoppeanhelicoptertours
    @hoppeanhelicoptertours Před 23 dny +1

    Glad the frog brought me to your channel, immediately subscribed, really enjoy your content

  • @alexsantiago3181
    @alexsantiago3181 Před 26 dny

    I just finished Halo 3 two days ago. It was incredible, creepy, mysterious, and so fun. A truly great game.

  • @MystGang
    @MystGang Před 29 dny +3

    12:57 it's a lot stranger than Bungie implying that humanity were forerunners. During the development of Halo 2 it was definitive (the leaked storyboards showcase it), but Bungie was split on if they were humanity or a different species during Halo 3. The main story implies they're human, but the terminals imply they're different. I think the official explanation is that humanity and forerunners branched off from the same species, but that was only solidified after 343 took over, so it's still a mystery what Bungie would've gone with.

    • @User_5tjk42gj9
      @User_5tjk42gj9 Před 29 dny +2

      "You ARE forerunner"
      "To have a record of all our lost history" -343 reading about humans
      "Child of my enemy" - gravemind to chief
      Frank O'Connor wrote the terminals and was one of the few who didn't like humanity being forerunner. And when he moved to 343i he retconned what was previously established.

    • @jackofalltraits2145
      @jackofalltraits2145 Před 28 dny +1

      It was also only the Librarian and Didact third of the terminals that retconned this as the other two thirds (Forerunner Communications and the Journey of Mendicant Bias) very much leaner into Bungie’s original vision.

    • @idkanameimnotthatcreative7456
      @idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 Před 26 dny

      Terminals should be taken with a grain of salt. As someone else just said it was written by a dude who would eventually make the worst retcon ever. Bungie just let him do it so he’d stop complaining is what I always imagine. In-game dialogue already confirms they’re humans, along with Halo 2

    • @MystGang
      @MystGang Před 26 dny

      @@idkanameimnotthatcreative7456 That's not the case. Statements made by David Candland, Paul Russel, and Jaime Griesemer confirm it was two "teams" with differing ideas on who the forerunners were. The terminals were credited to a team of 8 authors.

    • @peli2865
      @peli2865 Před 26 dny +1

      ⁠@@MystGang it's a long video, but you might want to watch "We Were Forerunners" by C3 Sabertooth

  • @razgriz4978
    @razgriz4978 Před 29 dny +3

    I found this video when it had 343 views and had been released 7 hours ago. Real life easter egg.
    Also, the Marathon series would make for a good transition if you wanted something like a through-line. I describe it to other people as "Proto-Halo," but it's got its own uniquely rich and mysterious universe.

  • @MajesOnTheXbox
    @MajesOnTheXbox Před 29 dny +1

    The production value is crazy for all your vids, the intro caught me off guard with the trailer reference

  • @pippin45
    @pippin45 Před 28 dny +1

    I could talk for HOURS about BioShock. I'd love to hear your takes on the series!

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
    @PANCAKEMINEZZ Před 25 dny

    "Halo 4 a good interpretation"
    I mean... It's an interpretation, I agree. Lol

  • @kailyn2299
    @kailyn2299 Před 29 dny +2

    MY TWO FAVORITE CZcamsRS

  • @marcusszavaleta
    @marcusszavaleta Před 26 dny

    Dude this video is amazing, thanks for posting

  • @jaredbryant8297
    @jaredbryant8297 Před 9 dny

    Thank you for making this video

  • @codybeardsley
    @codybeardsley Před 28 dny +1

    Wow, this was a great video! Immediately got my sub 🖤 Halo 3 is something special

  • @spirit_green
    @spirit_green Před 24 dny

    DEFINITELY do one on Bioshock for sure!

  • @HarryChrisp
    @HarryChrisp Před 28 dny

    Great video! Keep them coming!

  • @TheGarvin
    @TheGarvin Před 19 dny

    I would personally be interested in seeing you discuss the Half-Life games.

  • @Yargulious
    @Yargulious Před 28 dny

    Nicely done, you chose the perfect theme for this one. I always liked how the original trilogy hints at the motive of the Forerunners without them ever making an appearance. Then Halo 3 really brought it home with the Ark.

  • @Andre232323232332323
    @Andre232323232332323 Před 28 dny +2

    Hey man just letting you know, that on the minute 8:30 that’s not an Egypt pyramid, that’s a Mexican pyramid in Teotihuacán, the pyramid of the sun.

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  Před 28 dny

      Wow, good catch! Honestly just grabbed some footage of pyramids from stock footage to get the point across. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @Andre232323232332323
      @Andre232323232332323 Před 28 dny

      @@themeaninginbetween it’s all good! Great video dude!

    • @Andre232323232332323
      @Andre232323232332323 Před 28 dny +1

      @@themeaninginbetween I wanna elaborate a bit that, the pyramid of the sun is actually a better and more interesting example than the pyramids of Giza; Teotihuacán wasn’t built by the Mexicans (Aztecs), it just happens that the Mexicans (Aztecs) stumbled upon its ruins, and decided to live there.
      As of today, there are no certain data nor information of which ancient civilization built Teotihuacán along with all its pyramids, so I’d say it’s a better example to contrast with the forerunners than, for example, the Giza pyramids! (Although the Egyptian ones are way older)

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  Před 28 dny

      That’s awesome! I didn’t know that! I’ll have to head down a rabbit hole about that now haha

  • @levi22es
    @levi22es Před 28 dny

    Awesome video! I’d love more Halo stuff from you, but Gears of War would be another great franchise to tackle. Very similar to Halo in a lot of ways despite the games themselves being quite different.

  • @LongJohn-sk7lg
    @LongJohn-sk7lg Před 29 dny

    Bravo man, another banger!

  • @Tristan_Homewood
    @Tristan_Homewood Před 22 dny

    God damn dude thank you for your insight

  • @novic329
    @novic329 Před 29 dny +1

    Have you played that system shock remake that was developed by a small team of fans of the original? I'm loving it so far since they maintained a lot of the aesthetics in a modern engine.

  • @TheRealBoogaloo
    @TheRealBoogaloo Před 29 dny

    The story of how a legend is born...

  • @rattissar5892
    @rattissar5892 Před 28 dny

    I feel like you didn’t mention the Ark, the installation where all others came from

  • @Skajun0
    @Skajun0 Před 25 dny

    this guy gets it

  • @EpsilonXenos
    @EpsilonXenos Před 29 dny

    Yooo he uploaded another Halo video! 😤😤😤

  • @Phillibetrus
    @Phillibetrus Před 28 dny +9

    No 343i interpretation of the Forerunners is not compatible with the Bungie games. We were given very little but what we were given repeatedly re-enforced that Humans were Forerunner. Even if the Greg Bear novels contradicted nothing, that part of the backstory should never have been filled in like that. Continue to let us wonder about the mysterious ancient Humans and drip feed us info in the games and books set in the modern (26th century) time. Immediately answering all those questions spoiled a lot of fun conversations and theorizing Halo fans could still be having. Introducing the Didact alive 100,000 years later was one of the worst decisions they could have made.

    • @Nethseaar
      @Nethseaar Před 26 dny +1

      So say we all!

    • @HeroesUnite.
      @HeroesUnite. Před 6 dny

      Wait till you find out it was Bungie that made the Foreruners humans :3

  • @sandran17
    @sandran17 Před 28 dny

    he heard me he heard me!!!

  • @drakeversteeg2782
    @drakeversteeg2782 Před 14 dny

    what is isle of B and I found your channel trough a video taking about every season of rvb he is called Gazpacho1

  • @adoringfan4194
    @adoringfan4194 Před 26 dny

    Can't believe he said that Halo 4 had a good story 🤦‍♀️ only mystery is how he is so young yet bald already

  • @spencermcnolty3391
    @spencermcnolty3391 Před 26 dny +1

    🐸

  • @user-mt3yh1pw5k
    @user-mt3yh1pw5k Před 24 dny

    You should think of the half life series!

  • @bluespartan-6628
    @bluespartan-6628 Před 5 dny

    Dead space

  • @PackHunter117
    @PackHunter117 Před 28 dny +2

    You don’t need to review the 343 games but are you gonna review Reach, ODST, and Halo Wars despite it not being a Bungie game?

    • @themeaninginbetween
      @themeaninginbetween  Před 28 dny +1

      Definitely Reach and ODST! Never been much of an RPG fan so honestly I’m not super familiar with halo wars other than watching the cutscenes online.

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 Před 28 dny

      @@themeaninginbetween Ah i see that makes sense. I know many in the Halo community like the game for the artstyle, cutscenes, story, soundtrack, and other things. The soundtrack is easily the best non Marty ODonnel soundtrack in the IP.

  • @gracewhite8755
    @gracewhite8755 Před 29 dny +1

    Feat. me 😎

  • @ununiqueusername
    @ununiqueusername Před 29 dny

    am i THE ONLY one who doesn’t mind the Cortana and Gravemind interruptions??

    • @Phillibetrus
      @Phillibetrus Před 28 dny +1

      No I enjoyed them... thought it was a great way to show chief breaking down and being human without having him talk

    • @ununiqueusername
      @ununiqueusername Před 28 dny +1

      @@Phillibetrus FINALLY!

  • @inspectorwhoreacts
    @inspectorwhoreacts Před 29 dny

    NieR Automata

  • @kivinrepoio9288
    @kivinrepoio9288 Před 28 dny

    Disagree, every halo after ce loses that mystery, halo 3 is more mystique and epic. But since halo 2 it doesnt feel mysterious anymore. Its because halo 2 and 3 look more cartoonish and colorful, meanwhile ce looks more serious and dark. Sometimes halo fans gotta leave nostalgia aside.