Too Tough To Die - A Tribute To Johnny Ramone (2006)
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01 - Today your love, tomorrow the world (The Dickies) 03:06
02 - You drive me ape (The Dickies) 04:55
03 - Los Angeles (X) 07:42
04 - Because I do (X) 10:32
05 - I just want to have something to do (RHCP) 18:42
06 - I wanna be sedated (RHCP) 21:57
07 - She's the one (RHCP) 24:31
08 - Its a long way back (RHCP) 26:46
09 - Durango 95 (Daniel Ray; CJ; Marky) 33:10
10 - Wart hog (Daniel Ray; CJ; Marky) 34:15
11 - Don't come close (Daniel Ray; CJ; Marky;Pete Yorn) 36:10
12 - I wanna be your boyfriend (Daniel Ray; CJ; Marky;Pete Yorn) 38:30
13 - My brain is hanging upside down (The Bosstones) 40:43
14 - Cretin Hop (Tim Amstrong; Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 44:10
15 - I believe in miracles (Eddie Vedder; Tim Amstrong; Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 46:31
16 - Sheena is a punk rocker (Eddie Vedder; Tim Amstrong; Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 50:24
17 - Judy is a punk (Henry Rollins;Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 53:14
18 - Commando (Henry Rollins;Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 54:48
19 - Blitzkrieg bop (Henry Rollins;Brett Gueritz; Marky; CJ) 56:35
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Johnny Ramone told every kid in the world to just get a guitar and play. The Ramones put RnR back where it belonged, into the hands of the kids.
Hello again Tabby girl ....Loving your posts. .and you my dear friend can mind meld me anytime, we certainly have a great deal in common, ,,for some reason the Ramones always played on my Birthday 12/30 in NYC at the Ritz, now known as Webster Hall ,What a Great club band ,seen so many Big name bands at a club in Brooklyn L'Amour ,before they were big ..Metallica too many to name. .yup led a charmed life Thank God
That is a good point. Johnny proved that it isn't virtuosity that makes you good, it is good songs. He wasn't the best guitar player in the world..but he was the best at what he did. He 'served the song' better than just about any guitar player I can think of. Also, to add on what you said... He showed young kids that you don't have to be intimidated by the guitar or any other musican instrument. Once you have it in your hands, magic can happen if the songs are there. He might not have been the best technical players, but he was definitely one of, if not the most important guitar players to ever live.
YEA BUT ALL THE KIDS TODAY DONT WANT TO WAKE UP IAM 60YR OLD AND PLAYED MY GUITAR AT TO OPEN MIKES PLAY IT LOUD AND ONLEY RAMONES AND ALL THE KIDS RAN OUT SIDED BUT LOOKED IN THE BIG WINDOW LIKE I WAS FROM SOME DIF TIME AND PLASE BUT THE OLDER ONES LOVED IT BUT DO NOT KNOW IF IT WILL EVER COME BACK RIP RAMONES RIP
Big mistake.
And that's exactly what I did!
My babysitter dragged me to my first Ramones show in 1979 at keene st college iI was 10. I had the privilege to meet Johnny back in early 90's in Northeast. He was sooo kind. I also met CJ who was my age and new. Monty Melnick was very cool too. I went back stage several times those years. not once was I ever mistreated or that kind of "groupie" thing.i was treated like I was a lil sister. very protected. I regret that in those 2 tours I never got to meet Joey. I know now having been a nurse for 15 yrs. I was a young mother. Children are infectious and Joey was already sick. I get that. My second backstage visit I showed up with a tattoo on my upper thigh (93). I only did it thinking long and hard. Its permanent. RAMONES or something only ramones fans would know. simple Greco-Roman tat...'no melnicks" and yes 20 yrs later at the lake someone often approaches me cuz of the tat and says "hey, ur a Ramones fan". the guy who took me backstage was always VINCENT MANCINI a really tall tough guy. he would call me and tell me dates and addresses n lodging, cuz a couple times johnny said "she drank HOW many?" then it was comped and next time I was checking coats or getting their take outs. Mancini and i had some fun as my small 5 ft frame and he would just carry me round like a ragdoll on his shoulders. and I hope he wasn't one listed in 9/11. he was going for his firefighting cert at the time. Johnny and Mancini got such a kick outa that tat and Melnick blushed like a teen boy. I learned so much those summers. I was in paralegal school. each member had a different political view, so I listened and learned. Johnny was devoutly conservative and we talked, as too was my father. Marky, a libertarian, and then Joey a democrat. I got REEMED with info and loved every minute of it. Those summers I hold dear to my heart. Johnny especially shaped my political views. Johnny was always proper. I sighed when dee dee died from an OD. I mourned when Joey passed from Luekemia. I was inconsolable when John Cummings passed from prostate cancer. I felt like I lost a good mentor. I hold dear to me those 2 summers. That I learned so much from guys 18 yrs my senior. that I was treated so kindly and respectfully especially by Johnny. i'll never forget it.
michaelanne brys Thanks for sharing!!!!! Sweet story!!!!!
this is such a great behind the scenes story, thanks for posting :)
by all means, if you're gonna get a tat, get one you love. wear it proud. as Charlie Daniels said, "you can be loud here and be proud" if I ever get one, it'll be the 'stamp' emblem on the front of 'THEWHO LIVE AT LEEDS'.on my left forearm , at an angle like the album angle. when the deluxe edition came out which has the song 'tattoo', I really leaned towards getting it.
Coolest fucking babysitter every
What does "No Melnick's" mean? I'm aware that Monte Melnick was RAMONES' road manager, but I don't understand that quote or whatevs.
They were right about Johnny hanging on for this show to happen before he slipped away. It is pretty crazy that he died 2 days after this show. Not even 48 hours after. Yet he was as tough as nails and was doing phone interviews right before show time. Dude was THE man.
When you hear other good bands trying to play Ramones songs - that's when it's easier to appreciate how good they were.
Listening to these other vocalist's doing Ramones songs, you realize what a musical instrument Joey's voice was and how well it projected.
Ozzie is another good example.
Rollins cant really sing. Joey was a wayyy better vocalist.
vdd, vc citou os melhores o vocalista é a alma da banda
NUNCA HAVERÁ SUBSTITO PARA ❤JOEY RAMONES ❤
Nessuno puo" avere la voce di Joey..era veramente al pari di uno strumento musicale..Joey poteva cantare qualsiasi genere ..
how could anyone hate the ramones?
English music journalist Charles Shaar Murray once said that it was impossible not to fall in love with The Ramones if you fell in love with Rock`n`Roll for the right reasons.
Mr.Burns in The Simpsons? he says to Smithers go and kill the Rolling Stones :)
But there not there not the... Do as I say!
DONT TREST N E BODY WHO HATES THE RAMONES
I don't know because I don't hang with people who don't like The Ramones. Ramones fan since the late 70s. Ramones Forever!
CJ seems to be the coolest dude in the world, I love him !
Apdm he's real. unlike alot or most musicians
CJ played in my hometown in Sweden, after the show he stayed and met all the fans who came to the show. I met him and He is one nicest and coolest musicans I ever met :)
He surely has earned his place as a Ramone. No doubt about it.
As a kid in the 90’s I always randomly heard Blitzkrieg Bop on the radio but never knew who sang it. It wasn’t until 2002 I got my first Ramones cd (Ramones Mania) at a thrift store for $5 because I saw it had Blitzkrieg Bop on it. I listened to every song and became completely obsessed with the band. I bought every cd, learned every song on guitar and started dressing like them, mainly Johnny because he was my idol. After a few months of becoming a super fan I remember trying to save up money so I could see them live. I don’t remember how I found out but when I learned that Joey and Dee had already passed I was devastated, but I kept my head up in hopes of still meeting Johnny some day. When the news broke that he passed in 2004 it was like a punch to the heart, I cried so hard that day 😭
Why was johnny your favorite?
@@1984isnotamanual cuz he played guitar and as a guitar player myself I just thought he looked cool asf 😎
You still have 6 members to meet that are alive... Marky, C J, Richie, Daniel, Ritchie and Elvis Ramone (Clem Burke)
The Ramones are the reason why I joined a band.
kuttersprodukt me too... cx
me three. I still crap..but it beats doing a real job. Thank-you my mentors
@@royferguson3909music it's a real job
Also, I don't get teary-eyed often, but I did seeing CJ and Eddie speak at Johnny's funeral.
This band is one of the reasons I bought a guitar and I feel bad for anyone who doesn't "get" The Ramones. Fucking legends.
I’m so glad to be a Ramones fan. It’s made this life so much more worthwhile.
Best Rhythm Guitarist ever
uhhhh- Keith Richards & Carl Wilson will always be in the running for that title also.
@@josephparlato2246but we are talking about the Ramones here so ..
To whomever put this video up, THANK YOU! ROCK-N-ROLL
I am so happy, finally, that recognition has arrived. So much would not exist without these 4 so individual, so personality filled, so talended guys from Queens. And their accents - I'm from Jersey so I have one but nothing like theirs. I've been a ramones fan for so so many years now, and i'm 60.. they blew away all of their friends in cbgb's. I took my 11 year old there, told the door guy I just wanted her to see it before it closed and yea now my kid's been to cbgbs!!!
I saw the Ramones in front of 250 people in 1979 in Santa Cruz CA.
I only knew one other guy who liked them cuz I saw him wearing a T shirt. I walked up to his door even though I didn't know him and asked him to go. I literally could not find anybody to go and had no idea they would one day be "legendary".
Lucky
I love that the Chili Peppers didn't feel the need to needlessly complicate the Ramones songs that they picked. Just played with heart, love, and respect. Chad could've played some damned 8th notes on the high hat though. :-)
I agree. They did justice to the songs...and other than the drumming, they did their best to play the songs as they were intended to be played. Flea even used a pick! hehe.
Richie was the drummer, songwriter and even sang songs for the LP's Too Tough To Die, Animal Boy and Halfway to Sanity. He wrote "Somebody Put Something In My Drink", for the band and other tunes. He also sang backup vocals and did live vocals. Richie started with the band during the Subterranean Jungle tour, when Marc/Marky was out of the band.
And he couldn't even show up in the funeral of johnny?
ramones changed my life forever
R.I.P. The Ramones
The First
And the Best
Johnny was always a person I've looked up to, I liked every last detail about him and he's the main reason I had picked up guitar and play the way I do, I wish I could've had the chance to shake his hand and tell him thank you for everything he has done. With that being said, thank you Johnny. And thank you Ramones.
Johnny ramone *wipes tear away*
fuck u
Totally. On top of the musical side of Johnny Ramone, there are a lot of other things about him to respect. The dude totally stuck to his believes and did not budge. If you are a secure person and have convictions that you stand by, that is something to be respected. The dude did not cave for anything or anyone.
..It didn't hurt that he was one of the coolest dudes ever too. hehe.
To be a damn right wing guy too? Bullshit
@@michaelr.4878 There's a fine line between sticking to your beliefs and being stubborn and hard-headed. I'm good with Johnny overall, but I'm not gonna idolize someone who is too insecure to open up his mind to others' opinions, and insulting or hitting others who didn't agree with him like he did with Dee Dee--that's that's dictator shit. Fuck that
Ramones are and always will be my heros
I recently made the pilgrimage to monument site in Hollywood forever and was thrilled to see it. Gabba Gabba hey forever
God Bless The RAMONES.I still listen to 'em 37 years later..
Johnny Ramone my hero!!!! FOREVER THE RAMONES
Ramones por siempre!! la mejor banda de todos los tiempos... Argentina los ama
2021 never bored see this , over & over again...our fav legend band me & my wife (RIP)👍👍👍
now you can compare how powerful Jeffrey Ross Hyman voice was .
I don't know why, but CJ's crying during the eulogy made me really tear up...RIP Johnny, Joey, Dee Dee, and Tommy.
Well this tribute definitely does not suck! At 60 years of age - I fucking love the Ramones and this is great stuff!
I got a perfect score on Rock Band singing The Ramones 'I Wanna Be Sedated'. True story. I found my true talent in life finally, singing Ramones songs on Rock Band.
Latinos apoyando RAMONES primera visita con estadio full
Neza york. México, 1984
Brasil 90, argentina 90 , uruguay90,
We. Love Ramones 4 vr los mas grandes concierto en latam .
15:32 Dee Dee did not write Beat on the Brat. That was Joey! It was the song title that made me buy their first album. Long story. But thank you to Dee Dee for other great songs that also got me through adolescence back in the 80's! He is truly the impersonation of punk. Wish he was still here!
'My Brain is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)' is one of the Ramones best 'later' songs. I'd add 'Somebody Put Something in My Drink' and 'Pet Sematary' up there too.
This is the greatest show!!!!!!!!! Watch it all the time!!!!!!! RIP YOU ALL JOHNNY, JOEY, DEE DEE AND TOMMY!!!!! ROCK ON UP THERE!!!!!!!!
Just watched this again
Thanks ❤ Love the Ramones always great!!!
“I want the extra 30 years.” 😢
Daniel Rey , CJ & Marky hold it down like kings , perfect , tight , tough & powerful
EVERYBODY LOVES YOU WHEN YOU’RE DEAD - the stranglers ... nothing could describe The Ramones more than that title/saying ... a 100% fact , if still with us , taken a break a few years and re-emerged in the 2000’s , the Ramones would’ve had an impact explosion they’d not had in the past , they deserved ... so sad , criminal
Daniel Rey's guitar tone sounds like God!
RAMONES POR SIEMPRE!!!!🇦🇷
Thanks for uploading this - awesome. Caught them in 1988, 1990, 1992, and 1995. Johnny was his own man and thank god for that....
Es un tesoro!!! Gracias por subirlo!!!!
Fuck. Why did they die? This made me cry. I love the Ramones.
same here 😣
Don't cry because it's over;Smile because it even managed to happen at all.
thank you Rob Zombie for putting this together
He once stated that when he heard the Ramones the first time, he knew every idiot could make music 😂 in a positive way of course
Johnny did it, rob only was the presenter
I love the Ramones and want to thank all the bands that played tribute (love you too).
I especially love Joan Jett. But this is about John. I know a lot of artsy music types and I fancy myself of that ilk. I am grateful to John for organizing this shit into something great! We need that energy.
JJ sounds just the same amazingly so
:'| Goodbye Johnny you'll always be my favorite person and guitarist ever..
30:19 Johnny and Joe Strummer . RIP
+Héber Bensi
and Dee Dee
Héber Bensi That’s not Joe, is Arturo Vega
Flasheaste
Semua manusia pasti akan mati, begitu juga Jhonny Ramone,,tapi musik dan karya-karya nya tidak akan pernah mati,,salam dari saya from Indonesian,,saya sangat suka dgn lagu" Ramones..keep the rock & roll..hey ho let's go..✊🙏
Judy is a punk, Commando, Blitzkrieg bop-Seve Jones on the guitar!!!
This is amazing. Thank you.
all this talent and they couldnt even simulate the energy the ramones put out and im seeing all alternate picking nobody can touch johnny's down picking !
I was at this show. It was an amazing night of music and all of the musicians were just hanging out with the crowd. This was three days before Johnny died. Rob Zombie got him on the phone as no one new he was too sick to show up.
Thank you so much for poting this!
RHCP really took this serious, they sound better here than in their own shows
Lol they were horrible here
Flea played several wrong notes in She's the one. For a worldwide known bassist like him.. That's pretty fucked up. Ramones' songs are the easiest to learn.
It looks like they have redone the vocal in a studio, probably the whole set was tweaked in a studio for the cd / LP of this show, watch Antony's lips on the vocals it's not quite in sink.
@@harryhepworth312 Yeah, must be that, they never sound that good live
yje mixed emotions i have watching this under my belt i saw 3 live shows in vancouver have 40 albums studio and bootleg and iys been 25 years since i last saw them...i first bought Mania just because it looked hilarious ...little did i know that would change my entire ideas about music....anyhow i miss these guys and i have often said now being 52 that the older i get the more i understand johnny ramone i wished there was a n afterlife to meet them
1:09:44 I always thought so too, Johnny. The Ramones, Sex Pistols, and The Clash will ALWAYS be THE big three in my book. And I can say that I saw all 3 play live and they changed my life! But The Ramones remain my all time favorite.
Those are definitely the big 3, but The Stooges created it
New York Dolls could be credited too
@@omengaming9391 but they're pretty much around these days
How about blink 182?
@@Stephen-lt1tp Iggy was the man 🤘👍 before US punk got it's title for sure it's a fact. 🤘🤘🤘🤘I mean you just have to watch Dead Boys 1977 CBGB gig it's got Stooges influence written all over it.
Thanks for this beautiful video
In allot of interviews of people talking about The Ramones I hear them say they were funny to watch. Some even say they were like a joke band. From the first time I saw them I was blown clear away and thought they were the greatest band ever. I never ever get the joke about this band.
I think it was because they were so serious as performers but their lyrics were so extreme that it was incredibly funny. Loudmouth, beat on the brat, I don't wanna x, etc. They cathartically say what we all want to say but never do so that becomes funny. I mean, here comes a band that says it all unabashedly and seriously. The juxtaposition is quite funny.
And I think in the beginning they were a bit awkward with the starts and stops on the songs, arguments on what to play next, and Joey falling over his own feet... I wish I saw it! Sounds hilarious (unintentionally).
Martini Chip Yeah, if you see the very very first videos of them they honestly seem pretty ridiculous. (I'm pretty sure there's one of them doing "Loudmouth" that seems pretty weak.) They improved A LOT in a very short time, though. They definitely became one of the fiercest live bands you'd ever see. I saw them a bunch of times while Dee Dee was still in the band and they were AWESOME.
I saw there first videos and I still heard Genius regardless of their antics and arguments. These dudes were before their time.
The genius was there, no doubt. Well, they remain my favorite band of all time. They changed my life. Those shows were mind-blowing.
por amar muito Ramones todas os tributos são bem-vindo, e por amar Joey Ramone sinto que nenhuma voz consegue harmonizar o restante da banda , como ele fazia ele era alma e corpo da banda❤ILOVE JOEY RAMONES ❤
Saw them in Geneva by the end of the 80’s. Went alone. Couldn’t miss them. It was a small venue but it was all right 😊🎸🇨🇭🎼🌺
How could say that was their best song? They only had a million other great songs!
I really wish there could be a documental based of Joey Ramone's life and career. There is just one that only lasts 13 minutes. But there is not a whole movie or a documental about him. Anyway I love Johnny Ramone too. This is really a doc based on Ramones'life than Johnny. It's cool!! and Linda is taking care of his legacy and I am glad about that actually.
Thank you Ramones ... I love you .
Like Punk? This is one of the coolest tribute concerts ever. EVER.
Thanks for this!!!
Dear God, I had an eargasm at 50:25. LOOK AT EVERYONE ON THAT FUCKING STAGE! The bit about Johnny and the groceries was hilarious too.
Thank you for uploading this!
CJ: I smoked my first joint listening to it😂😂
God bless Johnny !!
The inventor of punk was a conservative. Love it.
Lou Reed was not a conservative
I’m a democrat but I love him. His guitar playing gave the Ramones their sound.
Yes like many americans he was politically illiterate but that's not a reason to mock the guy, he did a few good songs....he was also a scumbag from a humanist perspective, you forgot to mention that lol
"my ass. Democrats are OK with late-term abortions and war whenever “their guy” is in office. FFS, the DNC is trying to put forth an Alzheimer’s patient for President"
Hey pssst. I'm no us citizen ok ? It's gonna blow your mind but Usa is just a "small" country and i'm talking about the world regarding ethic/moral and politics in general. I know that true leftism (not liberalism you dumb dumb) will always take care of the modest and the less rich working people. That's a basic i know about, because of free health care, free education, justice for all (and not justice only for who pays millions for a good lawyer etc...).
"Finally, before you accuse me of being a Trump fan (as if that could shut down an argument), realize I’m not."
Oh please tell me who is your political role model it's gonna be rich :)
"FFS, the DNC is trying to put forth an Alzheimer’s patient for President"
Trump is more dangerous than that tho, please tell me what sucks regarding this scumbag, prove it to me you don't like him.
iggy pop is not conservative, mc5 were not conservatives, ,... poor conservatives big mouth and small brain
Why was Richie left out in the credits? At least Tommy gave him his due.
I remember seeing in one documentary that Johnny hated him, and he was never accepted by Johnny. They mention in the beginning that Johnny orchestrated this whole tribute (BIG surprise there). That could be the reason. Maybe Johnny just wanted to flip off Richie once more, a fucked up thing to do. Too bad, Richie did great in Too Tough to Die and Animal Boy
@@thorazine8402 dont forget halfway to sanity
Richie was fucking great
@@franciscofeest6691still is, he is not dead
who ever upload this i love u!
I saw him 42 times and I still can't believe they're gone it's like a meteor burning up in the atmosphere
It's nice too see so many young faces enjoying the RAMONES
Joey Ramone told the Dickies to carry the flame, after they had gone, and there are doing that, Going to see the Dickies in July. i love both bands.
Escuchar a henry rollins cantar temas de los ramones es demasiado épico
You had to see The Ramones live. The records don't come close to the raw power of a live Ramones gig. Thank fuck I made the effort to go see them a whole bunch of times back in the day.
+TS50ER I love the records though.
87JuliR
, nothing wrong with the records. Nothing wrong at all, but it was their live sound with its pure, raw energy that made the Ramones matchless.
Rest In Peace ramones.. wish they were still around
I saw the Ramones in Chicago in about 1979, fantastic show, not even that big of a crowd. Funny watching Johnny gritting his teeth and kicking stuff off the stage back into the audience.
The Ramones , The Best !
RIP Johnny Ramone you have been gone for 10 years today... :(
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's 17 years and counting! I will never forget Johnny!! So Fucking Cool!!!!
Hate me if you want, but I didn't know Johnny died when clicking on this, I was hoping it would be a documentary on his life, and what made him such a tough miserable asshole (which is why I love him) ..But anyways RIP Johnny
It's so weird, but almost nobody can do a very good Ramones cover. The Ramones just sounded so unique, that even great bands just can't do a good cover IMHO. I mean, the RHCP covers in this video are DREADFUL. Even Metallica, who I LOVE, don't sound good playing Ramones' covers to me.
Okay that's the true!...BUT... It was a tribute. And all the bands have done their best.or not ?? Greetz from the Netherlands. Ron.
RHCP was trying to sing like Buddy Holley., isn't it ?! (23.28 minutes)
I once watched the video.,but they ALL want to be better with their voices and dance moves! GF-NYC..., YES YOU ARE RIGHT..., no one can match The Ramones.
The only one that played with respect for Johnny was Steve. He played on the background.,without attraction attention.
It is a tribute they are not trying to exactly clone the sound of the Ramones, just to show their influence. For an example of the same principle in reverse listen to 'Acid Eaters', an album of the Ramones doing covers in tribute of bands that influenced them. Most of the Ramones covers sound weak compared to the originals as well. I think this principle is constant among 'tribute' and 'cover' albums. Looking at your profile pic I see you are a Misfits fan. Project 1950 from the Misfits is another example of an all tribute/cover album that sounds pretty weak.
RIP Johnny Ramone 😍😍😍😍😍😢😢😢😢😢😢
Highest respect for the RHCP - all downstrokes by Flea & John!
I'd give this tribute a bold two-thumbs up! I especially liked the creative talent of "The Red-Hot Chili Peppers" making the Ramones mantras ever better!
Johnny’s hard focus kept the Ramones together
joan jett - great stuff
Joan Jett rocks !!!!!
🎵🎶"Chewing out a rhythm on my Bubblegum"🎶🎵 ⛱🌞🎸
Awesome freakin show, wow, I would have given a lot to be there
The Ramones are still the greatest fucking band in history. I started listening to them when I was in 7th grade. I miss all of them. God bless these fellas for bringing the sound of punk to the next generation of kids. Rest In Peace Joey, Johnny, Cj, Richie, Marky, Dee Dee and Tommy. Thank you for what you did for punk and heavy metal. \m/
the ramones is original punk rock at all the pioneer in other punk underated bands
Rest in peace johnny
Johnny's guitar said to anyone seeing them "we're the RAMONES, and if y' don't like us y' better just get the fuck out the way"
Guitarrista da maior banda do mundo!! Ramones gabba gabba hey😎😎😎😎🎸
Oops Thurston (15:30)..."Beat on the brat" was not written by Dee Dee...It's a Joey song I think
Just read Johnny's autobiography "COMMANDO" !!!
I like that after all of these years Leonard from The Dickies hasn't discovered ear plugs. :-)
2017 RamonesForever
So good.
Rock N Roll is a CONSTANTLY EVOLVING art form but some artists/bands/musicians are SEMINAL in that evolvement... Black Guitar Blues - Elvis Presley - The Beatles -The Ramones - *ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE RAMONES!!!* The Ramones were GROUND BREAKING in what they did and PARTICULARLY in what they inspired in other/later rock artists. They were the TEMPLATE for most forms of Modern Rock Music... MILLION SELLING bands of today like U2, Nirvana, Green Day, The Strokes, The Killers, the list goes ON AND ON AND ON, would not EXIST were it not for The Ramones... (The Ramones advocated an ATTITUDE that ANYBODY with a belief, a sense of purpose and a certain ATTITUDE could DO IT!!! It's just going to take a lot of work!!!) The Ramones changed the future of Rock N Roll... xx SF