7 DIY RV Upgrades That Had The BIGGEST IMPACT
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- These do-it-yourself upgrades have had the biggest impact on our RV quality of life. My Top Upgrade (#1) may surprise you. See links below for detailed project videos.
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Seriously- THIS is what I mean about upgrading an RV!!! Thank You, Brian!!!! All of these changes- individually- are life changing. All combined, it takes a 'borderline' RV, and makes it gorgeous. The only benefit of the original coach was the big size, but, all of the inside changes: couches, table, FLOORING, in conjunction with the suspension upgrade, make it genuinely a treasured trip & memory maker. The off grid capability (expensive!!!) changes trips from limited to unlimited (mostly). Priceless. Love the hidden stinky slinkies too.
I tow a travel trailer with a full size cargo van. Earlier this year, I had an off road shop install a two inch front end leveling kit so it's not nose down all the time along with a pair of Fox off road shocks in the front. Driving the van now is much more predictable and firm. It's not a road racer but handles very well now, especially on the dirt roads. Later this year, I had another shop install a posi-traction unit to my rear axle to help when driving on poor roads.
I installed Hellwig helper springs on the back axle to help with the tongue weight of the trailer.
Just this week, I had a front hitch installed on my van. You never know when it may come in handy!
Those are nice mods. It's easy to just focus on cosmetic stuff. The mods you do not see are often more significant.
Thank you Tito! I just installed the Hellwig anti-sway bars in my 2009 31' Jayco class C, and what a huge difference. Now my wife is more comfortable with driving it. If you're ever in Utah, hit us up.
Glad you had that experience too. To this day I'm still amazed how much better it is.
Never thought about the suspension being more stable when park. Can't wait to try it out.
I didn't expect it either. Surprise surprise :)
will forward the vids on the suspension to the hubby. I drive the 28footer and know that "whiteknuckling" thing is real. Best thing I've added to our C class? A wooden board set-up to cover the steps at night. Don't want to fall into the stepwell, that's for sure! I've already got recliners and our J-shape dining table is a good workspace and a good nightbed for our 3 dogs. (Coachmen Leprechaun 260DS)
I've been intending on adding a step cover too for several years. Not to prevent falling in, but to add 3 more square ft to the floorplan :) Maybe I'll get to it soon. I'm planning on automating it though so I can press a button and up comes the step. Thanks for reminding me and sharing your mods. Cheers!
Thank you for your tips and tricks, your advice is making my transition to RV living a little less scary. I have never subscribed to anything on CZcams before but Tito you deserve the support. Kudos to you and thanks again for sharing.
Wow. Thanks for making me your first Sub! That means a lot. Happy RVing and feel free to reach out if you get stuck on anything.
I did the upgrade sway bars front and back on my first Class A. I bought a 2020 Jayco 40" last year. I did not take it home until these upgrades were done. It's the best safety addition you can ever do. No more dreading the right side wanting to go to the shoulder of the road and like you said, no more worry about bigger rigs. I travel in the middle lane.
Wow Brian,
Floors, recliners, and the Tele Vader desk. What a difference.
You gave me some really great ideas!
Glad it got your creative wheels spinning.
I liked the storage idea you had for your hose so much that I installed a "Stinky Slinky Quiver" in our coach this afternoon. Frees up a lot of room in the water compartment and gives it a much cleaner feel. Thanks.
Awesome. You got right on it. Glad you liked the result.
Just found your channel, and I'm pretty sure I subscribed before you started talking LOL. My husband and I are full-timers in a stationary RV. I'm very excited to see more of your videos. You are an excellent presenter, and I'm sure we're going to learn a lot from you. We're getting started on our second year, and having purchased an older rig from an auction house we have a lot of work to do. My husband is a mechanic, and after I show him this video, I'm positive he's going to want to make your #1 upgrade, too! Looking forward to more videos! - Erin
Glad to have you guys tuning in Erin. Thanks so much for your kind words. I hope the vids give you some ideas. Best of luck with your RV projects. 👍Cheers. Brian.
I'm in my 96 travel trailer RV full time. Everything works but two years ago when I started living in my RV I upgraded my RV water heater to a tank less water heater. It runs on the propane just as my old one did. The new unit is hung on the outside of the RV just above the old tank heater door. With the old tank heater removed the new tankless unit just stores in the same space. It happens to be under the rear bunk bed. The connections were simple and easy to connect. Works like a charm and no keeping the 6 to 10 gallons (they vary) hot all the time and absolutely no need for warming up. Temp and flow is fully adjustable. It stows in a matter of one minute and no disconnection is required. Also when winterizing you don't have to drain it when you keep the pipes full of RV anti-freeze. If you like unlimited hot water this is the best DIY.
I love the idea of the anti sway bar for driving and how it stabilizes the RV when parked . I will order and install them within a month.
Thanks for sharing your upgrades.
Glad it was helpful. Good luck with the project. I'm excited for your results.
Using fence post tubes to make your hoses disappear is an awesome idea!
I did that very long ago. Each time I dump the tanks I still think it's awesome. Makes for a quick job too.
Great ideas! My hubby is going to see if we are able to do that "Stinky Slinky" hideaway.
I'm sure he can. That's an easy one. Good luck!
I found the biggest improvement in regard to safety was the Safe-T-Plus RV Steering Stabilizer, improved handling and will help with a front tire blowout, easy to install. Best money I've spent on my RV so far.
That's great. Lots of options out there to give you a safer ride. Best to just try one at a time until you're satisfied.
4:54 is where I subscribed. It was like watching Les Stroud in survivorman
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I have a class B, Winnebago Travato, built on the pro master 3500 chassis, high top. I have the rear anti-sway bar replaced - what a difference! However I didn't stop there. I installed front and rear sumo springs, which aren't really springs at all but a foam like plastic. The ride difference is enormous. It's now a pleasure to drive!
I may do the Sumo air Springs at some point too. I just haven't had the need since doing the others. Sounds like a lot of class b owners are doing suspension upgrades like me.
You are the man....Brian/Tito. Your videos are clear, concise and complete. Getting ready to start tearing out the floor.
How'd it go?
Brian, I hope you keep this channel going for a long time. You are one of a very few that has a diy channel on Class C’s. In fact I am not subscribed to (nor can I think of) another one! Keep up the good work!
Started the channel in 2010. So the channel and the class C aren't going anywhere. There will always be something to work on. Glad you're enjoying it. Cheers.
I always admire your work. Thanks for all of it.
Glad to share. Cheers.
Great info. We have made some of these already (before seeing your video) and agree that these changes are huge. I will be checking out the rest of your channel. Thank you! Our next project for the RV is installing automatic leveling jacks. Often times we get to our location late or in weater so being able to push a button to get level will be super helpful.
Thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing... I'm a cancer survivor and I'm planning to hit the road soon on a sort-of "Bucket-List Tour" and see 👀 and do some of those "things" in life I always meant or wanted to do but never got around to... Life can get busy... Cancer can make you STOP and re-evaluate priorities... You're a wealth of knowledge and greatly appreciated... God Bless and I hope 🤞 to meet-up someday and Thank you in person... Happy Travels
Thanks Tim for sharing your outlook on life. Hope to see you on the road.
Most RVs are made for highest profit and rather haphazerdly, so being handy and knowing how to do DIY stuff is a great way to make the most of your RV, and save yourself cost and hassle with the RV repair shops. 👍
Very true. Taking control of your own RV is the best way to do it.
Thanks for the tips on the suspension!
Wow that is the perfect set up with your recliners, TV and desk area. We are travel vloggers from England who have a Motorhome and now have some new updating goals! Glad we found your channel!
Thanks! Yes. We love it. It's perfect for us. Best of luck.
Cool, Good Job. We watched you do most of them
Great Tim. Thanks for sticking around. More to come..
I tried improving our suspension with Torklift Stable Loads, but as our truck camper was so heavy, we ended up adding 2 leafs to each of the rear leaf set adding the equivalent of 1,800 lb payload capacity.it made all the difference! Great video. Thanks for sharing! Christian
Thanks for sharing your experience. Cheers.
We did the exact same suspension upgrade to our Minnie Winnie 22R and LOVE IT! Before, I was nervous to take my eyes off off the road to glimpse at a side mirror because the rig could have started leaving it's lane that quick. It felt squirrely. With the Bilstein shocks and Hellwig sway bars front and rear, it almost drives as well as our minivan. Really! It is safer and longer days are more enjoyable. I wasn't sure if the difference was real - I did all the work myself so I really wanted the difference to be real. But the big test was my wife driving it. within 30 seconds behind the wheel she was astonished at how much better it was to drive. So we highly recommend this upgrade on any rig!
Your shares are amazing always helpful ! Thank you again for your contributions to the RV community !
You're welcome. So glad you've found them helpful.
Thanks for all the great information! I really enjoy your calm and down-to-earth demeanor.
So nice of you. You're very welcome.
Thanks Brian. Nice index to projects. My last one was the window upgrade you helped me with and it looks great. We were not able to get out at all this year because Jackie had many health issues. We think they will be corrected by the end of the year and we are planning on heading East and then spend the last part of the year in Arizona. Thanks again for all you do for the RV community.
Hey Larry. Hope Jackie is bouncing back.
I think you nailed it with the sway bar upgrade. I will definitely pick some up in Visalia.
A panhard bar on the rear suspension is even better to add. Especially if you flat tow. No wagging the tail. Plus passing trucks there are no swaying.
Definitely going to look into the suspension upgrades! Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome. Makes a big difference.
The biggest impact upgrade I did on our 2000 Tioga was a backup camera with a 7" screen. I wired the transmitter to the running lights, so I could use it "always on" as a rear view while driving. (This seems to have become fairly common on newer rvs.)
Great job and presentation Brian. Thanks for all the bomb and useful info!! So much to do!
Interestingly enough, your #1 upgrade was my very first upgrade on my 2015 Thor 24SR. I installed the the rear sway bar and the rear shocks. Mercedes Sprinter chassis came with the front sway bar. The 18 wheeler effects diminished quit a lot after the upgrade. However, one drawback of this mod is I loose the "independent" suspension. So, both rear wheels will react to a bump at same time and causing the rear wheels to dampening at same time. Initially, this effect kind of bothered me, over time, you get use to it. Overall, it definitely is a great upgrade. I discussed this design issue with factory engineers. I suggested that they may want to add a heavy duty spring in the middle of the sway bar to regain the independent suspension while improving the side to side stability..
One of my most rewarding upgrade is to add a directional wifi receiver/antenna on the roof. I get Xfinity signals from a mile away. We always have internet for email, online streaming. The antenna can be folded down during traveling. The best receiver/antenna is ubiquity nano-station M2 that I would definitely recommend it. Last couple weeks, I am working on improving the winter mode camping experience. For example, I am designing a water looping system that will automatically loop the "entire" hot/cold water circulation when water pipe temperature going below say 37F and start the demand pump periodically or the pipe temperature regain with 110v heater in on position. The total cost of this design is about $20 material including a micro-processor board ($5) with built-in 20 Amp relay and LED display from Amazon.. I do love your new flooring however...
You're a very ingenuous fellow. Thanks for sharing.
You're very kind. Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow Ii wasn't expecting the suspension as number 1. SAFETY 1st!
Yeah. That was an important one. So glad I did that.
Karl Bartelt Boy, I wish we had done that suspension upgrade when we had our RV. We had almost the exact same model, but from 1995, and it would dive all over the place. I just thought that was how it was!
Curious as to what the cost of the suspension job was? And where would you find it? New to the RV world… I’m guessing it would be best to wait until the warranty is over for such an upgrade?
@@marybethbrown580 You can get the parts on Amazon or SDTruckSprings dot com. Hellwig sway bars will be in the $300 to $350 price range. I just installed these on my 2018 Coachman Leprechaun. I'd have done this upgrade from Day 1 if I had only known how poorly my RV would respond to wind and passing trucks.
Brilliant!
Great video ! Thanks for sharing.
Just finished the DIY phase of my suspension upgrade on my Mercedes Sprinter-based C. Test drove it today.
I installed a rear Helwig sway bar and Sumo Helper springs. (You can’t replace the front sway bar on a Sprinter. It’s major surgery.) The Bilstein shocks are on order. I will have the struts installed and the front end aligned. Can’t wait. There is already a big difference in the way it drives. Highly recommended.
You have done some great upgrades. Thanks for sharing.
You and your tires will love it. Enjoy!
Great video, the suspension upgrade was a simple fix, but proably not thought of by other RV'ers.
That's true. Not as sexy as some other mods but makes a huge difference if you're the driver.
110% agree with #1 upgrade. Years ago when I had bought a new 32' Class A MH. We took a maiden voyage ~300 miles. In a windy situation it was rocking side to side and porpoising. We were getting ready for a X-Country trip and I was getting a little uptight. I ended up talking to an older experienced Rv'r who told me about Bilsteins & sway control arms. I didn't think it would really make a difference but what the heck, whats another $1k. Did it and a world of difference. 14k successful problem free miles later I'm still a firm proponent & suggest it to all and have added to each replacement. Not sure why they don't just do it right at the factory for a few extra bucks as a standard feature.
You're right. It should be standard equipment for sure. Glad you got it done 👍👍Thanks for sharing your experience.
Fantastic video Tito. Really enjoyed the information! Thank you!
You're welcome Tim.
Checked you out on recommendation of the getaway couple. Great content. Thanks. I'm in!
Last month, I drove my Class C from Apache Junction, AZ, to Moose Lake, MN. There were some high winds along the way on I-35, especially when driving through Kansas up to northern Iowa. I have Bilstein shocks on it, and the driving through that area was still white-knuckle. For sure, I am now going to have the Helwig anti-sway bars installed. Thank you for talking about this!
Great ideas to make your home on wheels safer & more comfortable. Thx for sharing. 🌺
Glad you liked the mods. Cheers.
Great Vid again Brian.. Keep it up. great info not only on what you did , but WHY you did these projects.
Thanks again!
Some say I talk too much. Glad you appreciated the WHY.
Was really surprised at your #1 upgrade, Brian! Have watched a number of your vids and find them all terrific; you're a very talented guy; thanks for giving the rest of us hope! Y'all Be Safe!
Yeah. Suspension doesn't have as many cool points as solar, but it definitely has had the biggest impact for me.
Great video! Really nice quality details. Thanks for sharing.
You bet. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
Hello! I love the things you have done! I also took out the Jack knife sofa and replaced it with theater seating. I would like to put the cabinet in the area wear the dinette is. Your Lifted TV cabinet would be perfect!
It was a big job, but well worth it.
Love all of your upgrades and really love the theater recliners. Our stock theater recliners are so cheap and want to get electric. I clicked on the link but that one doesn’t look like it has the cup holder on side with button to recline. 🤔
Hey Brian, thank you for that interesting insight, loved most of your 'upgrades' & mods. Unfortunately, we are caravanners in the UK and do not have the same space available for a lot of your options. I particularly liked the recliners and pop-up TV, as well as your rather impressive Solar fit out (which I did watch at around the time your were working on it), excellent stuff. Cheers and thanks again, Rog... 👍🏻 😉 🐍
Thanks for watching Rog! Cheers.
Ok that entertainment center/table/office desk/coffee bar is genius! U shud sell the blue prints for it or sell it as kits! Or patent the design. Love it!
It's definitely come up. Hope it gets your idea wheels spinnin!
Great info! Thanks for sharing.
I really enjoy your CZcams channel and straight forward, common sense ideas. We’re new to RVing, after renting a couple while living in Canada we decided after resettling in US we wanted to buy a travel trailer to tow behind my pickup. We put 2k miles on last year, this year will be close to 6k. Thanks for all your ideas!
FYI - Anyone with an older P-30 Chevy based Class A... almost any after-market, or stock for that matter, suspension parts for the C3500 one ton pickup will fit. My 1991 34 foot Southwind (hey... it's paid for) is a totally different gal with drilled/slotted rotors and high performance pads, super-duty 2" lift coil springs and matching shocks, Prothane bushings everywhere, and like Tito DIY... 1 5/8" anti-stay bar. The rear suspension also has 2" lift springs and shocks (I boondock most of the time, so the added lift helps "off-road" and also keeps from scrapping in and out of driveways) and 1 5/8" anti-stay bar.
Upgrade #7 was just brilliant!!! Great job sir!
We are new to the motorhome game….I REALLY like and appreciate your videos. Going from towables to motorhome is a big change with a learning curve.
Best upgrade tips I've seen on CZcams!
Great ideas! Just found your channel. Thanks for sharing, keep the vids coming.
Welcome! I'm glad you found me. I'll certainly keep em comin.
Very nice. I was really expecting tips along the lines of "put your shoes in plastic bins" but these are all legitimate upgrades, very impressed with your ingenuity. We have done a lot of work on the cabinetry in our kitchen area. Above the sink was originally a microwave, a crappy stereo and a huge shelf for a CRT television. We didn't use the microwave so it was totally useless. Now we made a 3 door cabinet and it totally changed the efficiency of the area, plus it looks a lot better, too! On the other side we replaced a cabinet that had space for 5 doors but only had 3 with a cabinet that has 4 larger doors and built in LED lighting underneath. Much more functional than from the factory.
Haha. Too legit to quit! Thanks for sharing your upgrades too.
Some great ideas there! My bumper is supposed to hold the hose. That's a joke because the fittings don't fit inside. I have a smaller ClassC. I put a shelving unit over my toilet because I did not have any towel storage. It helps.
You shared some great ideas! TFS! 👍
Storing the tubes in a metal bumper has also been known to rust them out.
Was not expecting the suspension in #1.Did notice the neat edge finishing of the flooring
#1 Dancer on your dashboard. Love!
Great upgrade for my 31 foot class c was putting a tune into it. So much better in the mountains now.
We have a 2014 Bay Hill 5th wheel with an on demand water heater from Atwood. Without sufficient pressure and volume the heater won’t work. The original water system was 1/2 pex with plastic fittings. To prevent loss of pressure due to neighboring RVs use while we were in the shower I always used my fresh water tank. I also believe all the water that enters my RV needs to be filtered,all of it even that used for flushing black tanks etc. To set up my water system at a new camp site was a 30 minute job at least with both a sentiment and biological filter and several Y valves to send water to the normal inlet, the fresh water tank, the black tank flush and an extra port for outside use. It took me several trips to Home Depot and 4 days sitting in the basement of the 5th wheel but now most of the primary plumbing is 3/4 pex with brass fittings (a lot more flow) and both filter housing are mounted inside. I just connect one water hose and everything else is onboard I just reach inside and turn a valve. This includes the black tank flush. All I have left to do is label the valves so that others can operate the water system if need be.
I LIKE these ideas. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Beautiful area...
I love those isolated areas..
Boon docking is the life for me..
Love the upgrades to your rv , it does look classy and relaxing . I really dig the tv desk and outlets
Thanks! Those are definitely biggies. In fact we are using them right now 👍
Great ideas for Rv upgrade
Great video! I would agree that suspension is #1. Great upgrades.
Thanks! Yes. People say "safe travels" and that's how it's done.
I'd have to agree with your #1. The suspension fix is key to actually using the RV comfortably and most importantly safely. If you're not able to drive to your destination you won't use it as much as you'd like to.
Thanks Jim. I'd have to agree :)
Thanks for sharing, great video as always! We love doing DIY as its a lot more rewarding when finished.
Totally agree. It's very satisfying benefiting from something that you did yourself. 👍
I want the desk/counter top - that is exactly what I've been looking for!
Great video thanks for your time.
Thank you!! I just bought a RV like yours and I am addicted on your channel. Smart ideas. When in Charlotte say hello!!
Awesome! Thank you!
I just came from an RV meetup where a LOT of people with sprinter-based RVs installed Sumo springs - I had never given it any thought until then, and your #1 upgrade convinced me I have to look into this! Thanks!!
Sprinters seem a little top heavy. Is that an issue with driveability?
@@RVwithTito I've never thought it was an issue - I expected the crosswind stuff, and typically don't have problems with truck traffic. I have a Leisure Travel Van, which isn't as tall as some small class c's. I have noticed - since the meetup - that on "rolling roads" that I consciously slow down to prevent side-to-side rocking... time to research!
Hey Brian... thanks again!!!! I am new to this all and love your videos! You do a really nice job putting them together & your ideas are awesome.
Appreciate the feedback Ed. You're welcome.
Go DOLPHINS!!!🐬
Great video. You are very kind to put together helpful information for others. Thank you. Stay well & happy.
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great job there with the custom cabinet.Redo the Kurig with a Leviton plug. The viper plugs are 2nd class junk.I see them melt.great video.
Really great ideas. You are a super instructor. Like your relaxed presentations. Thank you so much. Dr. G
You're very welcome. Thanks for your kind words.
Game changers: 1280 watts solar (and the rest of the system) and a deep freeze freezer (5 cu ft)... nothing quite like having tons of frozen veggies and ice cream and unlimited ice cubes on the road.
Mmmm ice cream. My RV fridge doesn't keep my ice cream as cold as at home.
Many thanks -- will soon be tackling a rebuild of a 1978 Dodge Flair 23' rv.
You're welcome. Sounds like a big/fun project.
Hi Brian. I’ve only just found your channel and I must say I’m pleased that I did! You’re obviously very proud of your setup and so you should be, it’s great. I have only just retired (I’m 65) and so your channel is very relevant. I’ve subbed and I’m looking forward to exploring all your videos.
P.S. it’s nice to see you sharing your enthusiasm with your daughter! 😉👍🇦🇺
I just discovered your channel and look forward to watching more of these. Very good, to-the-point videos.
I love your videos Brian. We added a high pressure propane port to our RV...... we can just plug in to run a bbq, a lantern, or both with the 3way junction. This is a good way to simplify things. Now that said, we use the lantern a lot less now that LED lighting is so good, but we still like to BBQ! Cheers, Scott
Those are definitely a must if you have a gas grill. Thanks!
Hey Brian , We have a workhose chassis with the 6.5GM diesel it was a pig to drive , I did the same shocks , bell cranks , sway bars and a safeTsteer ,, Delivered to Australia was over $5000 and i fitted them myself ,, best upgrade now she is like driving a large 4x4 ,,
R.J.T Traveling Australia ,,, hiding from the virus !
Glad you've had the same result as us. Game changer! We're all hiding from the virus 😃 Stay cool.
Thanks for the vid. Good ideas and suggestions.
Thanks for the info Tito.
You're welcome!
Great video! I’ve been watching your videos for a while just forgot to subscribe. I did that today and I’m going to look into those sway bars. Thanks for all the great advise.
Hey. Thanks for the sub. A few tough turns on the socket wrench, but the sway bar install was not complicated.
WOW I WATCHED THAT LAST VIDEO THAT YOU HAD RIPPED IT ALL OUT WHAT A GREAT JOB
Thanks!
Awesome upgrades! Love you're channel! Safe travels always!
Thanks!
Safe-T-Plus was another great step up I found. You have made it your own as they say!
I believe that's a steering stabilizer right? Another good option.
Great job with your living area upgrade, we did something similar with our Winnebago TT, gone is the space hogging booth dinette and uncomfortable jackknife sofa
Way to go...make it your own. Enjoy.
We removed our couch, but we are at a different stage of life... in its place went a playpen & a chair for nursing! Haha. Those jackknife sofas are uncomfortable space hogs! Haha. Dinette had to stay, we needed to bolt down car seats ;)
You're a brave man, Brian... grabbing that stinky slinky bare handed without hesitation! Great video!
Hi I agree with your number 1 choice I added the sumo springs on my class A and it made a world of difference. I also added the safety tee to help if we have a blow out and it keeps the rv straight. Big plus
I have some air bags for the front of our Class A and am looking forward to installing them.
Thanks for all the great videos
You're welcome. I appreciate that coming from an Average Joe like you :)
Very nice video with simple info !
We have a 21” and are in the process of removing our jackknife sofa and installing a bar top/table. Wish I had stumbled on this video two days ago.....Beautiful job and great suggestions for the swaying issues.
Glad it was helpful!