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  • čas přidán 22. 12. 2022
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  • @Valefisk
    @Valefisk  Před rokem +1168

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    • @CheezeSpartan
      @CheezeSpartan Před rokem +65

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    • @CCequalPi
      @CCequalPi Před rokem +5

      How is the comment from 2d ago but the vid has been up for 20 minutes

    • @mertarican5456
      @mertarican5456 Před rokem +6

      Hell yeah advertisements!

    • @TygrinDrox
      @TygrinDrox Před rokem +2

      Release the full vod jkjk unless

    • @Crembaw
      @Crembaw Před rokem +5

      Ok Vale but where’s the Decal?????

  • @owenburgess8260
    @owenburgess8260 Před rokem +7795

    After hearing this I just realized my freshman social studies teacher made us play Diplomacy as a class without the board game and explained it as a "simulation"

    • @enzopalmer4745
      @enzopalmer4745 Před rokem +728

      Sounds like a rad teacher

    • @brokenglass9814
      @brokenglass9814 Před rokem +596

      Same here, all I remember is that I created chaos and won

    • @Theelamental
      @Theelamental Před rokem +382

      Same with a difference of being able to produce specialized troops. Started with the worst possible location except that we were able to make pirates and survive until the end of the game.

    • @SilentEchoes-99
      @SilentEchoes-99 Před rokem +263

      We played a similar game in our class once, but it had different rules. My team ended up declaring war on the world at the end because we had too many troops.

    • @floofyboi7546
      @floofyboi7546 Před rokem +181

      @@SilentEchoes-99 having far too much unchecked military power will do that to a gamer

  • @sarkhan_guy
    @sarkhan_guy Před rokem +10969

    Love how 90 % of content seems to be turning towards "Vale and victims play boardgames"

    • @imbattlnscurvy5922
      @imbattlnscurvy5922 Před rokem +392

      "Play"
      It's more of a "suffer through"

    • @padwock2294
      @padwock2294 Před rokem +303

      CZcamsrs thought they were onto something with "Me and my friends!" video ideas. They ain't ready for "Vale and his victims!"

    • @tree4104
      @tree4104 Před rokem +80

      or "vale and f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶s victims play torturous video game"

    • @silverfishofdoom1312
      @silverfishofdoom1312 Před rokem +80

      Paradox needs to send them a copy of the hearts of iron board game we were promised years ago

    • @KNR90
      @KNR90 Před rokem +10

      It's what we want

  • @clang_the_owl42
    @clang_the_owl42 Před rokem +8266

    Ultimately Vale's content entices people with the unthinkable idea of being able to get more than like 3 people to play games with you

    • @enzopalmer4745
      @enzopalmer4745 Před rokem +271

      There’s a great channel called no rolls barred. It’s that same wish fulfillment but every week

    • @colemanroberts1102
      @colemanroberts1102 Před rokem +37

      Solution: games for 4 people.

    • @trackernivrig
      @trackernivrig Před rokem +264

      @@colemanroberts1102 yeah we’ve all played tons of those though. It’s very rare to see a game that can only be played by 6 or 7 people actually get played, which is why seeing this is really cool

    • @christiandidonna8808
      @christiandidonna8808 Před rokem +5

      I’m a GM in 5 games and a player in 3 other game I always got peaple to play with

    • @Finamajig
      @Finamajig Před rokem +15

      The dream honestly

  • @DustD.Reaper
    @DustD.Reaper Před rokem +1843

    Just the mental image of Teddy the senile 90 year old sultan swinging swords at a hurricane while Solll has to carry out his orders and become "temporary sultan of the ottoman empire" while Teddy was dead, only for him to rise from his grave with a laptop and hotspot to keep playing Diplomacy is funny beyond anything else

    • @donpollo3154
      @donpollo3154 Před rokem +175

      Solll is the grand vizier

    • @user-pd2mp8nk5g
      @user-pd2mp8nk5g Před rokem +85

      Honestly a badass idea for a dnd character

    • @Mafia200100
      @Mafia200100 Před 10 měsíci +149

      @@user-pd2mp8nk5g Everyone secretly laughed at the insane old sultan when he started swinging at the winds.
      They all stopped when he won.

    • @user-pd2mp8nk5g
      @user-pd2mp8nk5g Před 10 měsíci +73

      @@Mafia200100 the storm slaying sultan

    • @DeviousHands
      @DeviousHands Před 6 měsíci +26

      ​@@Mafia200100this is some banger mtg flavor text

  • @dexterity494
    @dexterity494 Před rokem +3925

    I was expecting the "extreme weather" to be an added on twist like insane monopoly, but having most players acting completely normal and just one having a bad day is a strange combination of refreshingly new and comfortably reminiscent.

    • @slimely9758
      @slimely9758 Před rokem +240

      same, I was very happy with the extremely dangerous and life threatening hurricane

    • @redkite1908
      @redkite1908 Před rokem +281

      Teddy was having a great day, he got to play diplomacy.

    • @remarkablysquare3216
      @remarkablysquare3216 Před rokem +110

      @@redkite1908 and he won

    • @NeonBeeCat
      @NeonBeeCat Před 10 měsíci +43

      A devastating Category 5 hurricane never hurt anyone.

    • @highdefinition450
      @highdefinition450 Před 5 měsíci +4

      lmao same turns out he's in an actual hurricane like bruh playing is not that important lol

  • @glitchwolf1384
    @glitchwolf1384 Před rokem +3708

    Truly the next escalation. From Crypt, to Crypt the board game, to triple insane monopoly... the only thing more torturous could possibly be... a completely normal game of diplomacy

    • @462n
      @462n Před rokem +451

      Well, normal aside from the fact that one player is most of the time busy fighting a category 5 hurricane (and somehow still wins anyways).

    • @erictheepic5019
      @erictheepic5019 Před rokem +164

      @Dyl He captured some control points from Hurricane Ian which allowed him to win the game

    • @deadpan904
      @deadpan904 Před rokem +106

      @Dyl strongest European men vs. weakest Floridian man

    • @hallway_revenant7919
      @hallway_revenant7919 Před rokem +26

      This is why risk is banned in my household

    • @evantyler8647
      @evantyler8647 Před rokem +37

      Next;: the campaign for Africa

  • @MineCartable
    @MineCartable Před rokem +709

    I like that Rue didn't realize how big of a deal it was that he had an entire nation who basically refused to stab him in the back for most of his game.

  • @GigasGMX
    @GigasGMX Před rokem +5469

    Ladies, get a man who looks at you the way Teddy looks at Diplomacy

    • @trackernivrig
      @trackernivrig Před rokem +713

      Man was willing to fight a category 5 hurricane just to keep playing.

    • @Potato-pq5ez
      @Potato-pq5ez Před rokem +274

      In shoddy picture form with half a year's delay

    • @echo332p8
      @echo332p8 Před rokem +29

      laggy?

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 Před rokem +86

      @@Potato-pq5ez Perfect! He will never notice when you're getting old.

    • @VivBrodock
      @VivBrodock Před rokem +67

      @@Potato-pq5ez as god intended diplomacy to be played

  • @zachm5485
    @zachm5485 Před rokem +1261

    “General, we are under siege. What are our orders?”
    “What do you mean General Teddy is drowning?”

    • @Ghostrecall_M
      @Ghostrecall_M Před 7 měsíci +99

      "The General is currently on a raft, he is messaging us through smoke signals."

  • @alexschust8870
    @alexschust8870 Před rokem +4042

    Vale is really getting into the Italy mindset by realizing he can't win, and just joining the winning team instead

    • @tanker00v25
      @tanker00v25 Před rokem +287

      Larping hard

    • @elonwhatever
      @elonwhatever Před rokem +13

      Honestly this is just me in TI

    • @mihael64
      @mihael64 Před rokem +33

      Is vale secretly an italian?

    • @naheleshiriki5496
      @naheleshiriki5496 Před rokem +118

      A fact about Italy I never fail to bring up whenever people think that their proud Italian heritage/culture makes them better than other people. Pretty much everyone has done something shameful in history so if they want to cling onto their past as a source of superiority, I know everyone's dirty laundry. Everyone sucks. Go figure.

    • @chaosandbunnies8291
      @chaosandbunnies8291 Před rokem +1

      @@naheleshiriki5496 I take pride in my ancestors because they're dead and I think that's something we can all aspire to.

  • @KaiserTwo
    @KaiserTwo Před rokem +387

    “Congratulations, Sultan! We have finally conquered the infidels!”
    “... Sultan?”
    **Garbled Hurricane Noises**

  • @rory.rorree
    @rory.rorree Před rokem +5233

    Vale flipped like a coin every 5 seconds

    • @notfake719
      @notfake719 Před rokem +777

      Truly channelling the Italian spirit

    • @nullFoo
      @nullFoo Před rokem +341

      I mean he was playing Italy...

    • @dboi1656
      @dboi1656 Před rokem +290

      @@nullFoo lmao was gonna say, that is legitimately the only way to play Italy if you want to follow historical precedent

    • @theultimatepielord8697
      @theultimatepielord8697 Před rokem +72

      That's how you play diplomacy

    • @FrostReave
      @FrostReave Před rokem +94

      @@theultimatepielord8697 It’s literally one of the most mathematical board games around with the only RNG being your fellow players

  • @MultiKommandant
    @MultiKommandant Před rokem +3583

    Diplomacy is a great game, definitely worth playing IRL if you get enough strategy nerds and alcohol into the same room for an afternoon

    • @Pikaton659
      @Pikaton659 Před rokem +146

      Yeah, this looks amazing to play, I just don't have enough friends who'd also be down to play it

    • @randomperson4198
      @randomperson4198 Před rokem +94

      @@Pikaton659 and time to explained the rule without discouraging it

    • @sunriseparrabellum5505
      @sunriseparrabellum5505 Před rokem +51

      Nothing better than day drinking and board games, I’m going to have to get this set up soon. Looks like a lot of fun

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Před rokem +1

      Diplomacy was created so that nerds could learn how to talk to other people

    • @gdttdeggegdh5471
      @gdttdeggegdh5471 Před rokem +13

      What are the chances someone's getting glassed?

  • @omegagarry8192
    @omegagarry8192 Před rokem +1949

    Honestly Teddy was playing the most authentic play-by-mail version of the game

    • @mkat2325
      @mkat2325 Před rokem +9

      Play by mail?

    • @Hrydra
      @Hrydra Před rokem +66

      @@mkat2325 play by mail.

    • @thatonejoey1847
      @thatonejoey1847 Před rokem +155

      @@mkat2325 something from the old days of the Internet, you would just send the save game over by email

    • @HenryVarn
      @HenryVarn Před rokem +81

      @@thatonejoey1847 And before that by postal mail.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle Před rokem +128

      @@HenryVarn Yep, there's ancient records of people sending chess moves through mail, and Diplomacy was at one point a popular game to play this way.

  • @Ninjahunter22
    @Ninjahunter22 Před rokem +3374

    me watching this while the worst winter storm in decades is ravaging through the us

    • @big924
      @big924 Před rokem +289

      Skill issue, just get closer to the sun

    • @thing420
      @thing420 Před rokem +7

      same lmao

    • @_wija
      @_wija Před rokem +107

      @@big924 tower of babel 2

    • @MaChAlSAM
      @MaChAlSAM Před rokem +38

      My car's gas and oil froze solid.

    • @baronofhats9745
      @baronofhats9745 Před rokem +18

      I'm sitting next to a big wood stove and am barely not shivering

  • @treedude4246
    @treedude4246 Před rokem +964

    So here is a fun diplomacy story
    My dad played it at uni. They would do one round a night and spend the rest of the day doing planning
    One guy thought he was pulling a fast one by alliancing with everyone in the game and keeping himself safe and waiting for it to blow over. Yet people caught on to the idea and one night everyone targeted him at the same time despite saying they would help him and he was wiped off the map
    He didnt talk to them for a week

    • @saddesklunch2544
      @saddesklunch2544 Před rokem +118

      I love hearing all these stories in the comments about Diplomacy ruining people’s friendships lol

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Před 16 dny

      Lmao because no one was going to talk to each other about him?

  • @willdavison2898
    @willdavison2898 Před rokem +882

    “Its f*cking diplomacy, kill him” I feel like Vale really embraced his Machiavelli in this game

  • @nedaraid3372
    @nedaraid3372 Před rokem +314

    "You are allied to one of them, aren`t you?"
    "Yeah, but I don`t know wich one"
    Peak Diplomacy.

  • @moonsalibi
    @moonsalibi Před rokem +1173

    Fun fact about Ian, from someone who went through Ian (I'm fine btw, got very lucky):
    While it is *classified* as a cat 4, it was literally 2 or 3 mph away from being a cat 5! This man played Diplomacy in the middle of an almost cat 5 hurricane! Hell, the people in my area actually think it is a cat 5, because our wind speed detectors BROKE somewhere in the cat 4 speeds!

    • @joeisreallife7729
      @joeisreallife7729 Před rokem +34

      at landfall it was at 150 mph like ida of 2021 and laura of 2020 (i lost my house personally lol)

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před rokem +61

      If only you could engineer windspeed detectors that broke at _exactly_ category five.
      ...it would probably make sense to make slightly stronger ones that also told you _how_ category 5 it was, but still.

    • @berayberkay3999
      @berayberkay3999 Před rokem

      who the fuck is ian

    • @moonsalibi
      @moonsalibi Před rokem +29

      @@timothymclean I dont exactly live in a huge city or nothing, so I guess our detectors were not up to it.

    • @JinjeoEil
      @JinjeoEil Před rokem +35

      Update about Ian, it was reclassified as a category 5 back in March

  • @AChamber
    @AChamber Před rokem +194

    I never did get an answer on how to change my language preference in PowerPoint

    • @TheLemonyOne
      @TheLemonyOne Před rokem +31

      Click File > Options > Language. In the Set the Office Language Preferences dialog box, under Choose Display and Help Languages, choose the language that you want to use, and then select Set as Default.

    • @monodragon
      @monodragon Před rokem +5

      you just do

  • @Iojima
    @Iojima Před rokem +1382

    Given how torturous it is, I’m surprised Vale didn’t do this earlier. I’m even more surprised he didn’t use a larger map, like Europa Renovatio

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid Před rokem +282

      Inb4 next video is a 30 man game of Diplomacy

    • @AnglosArentHuman
      @AnglosArentHuman Před rokem +120

      Europa Universalis IV: Now With Extra Backstabbing

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem +3

      E‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

    • @mihael64
      @mihael64 Před rokem +13

      @@AnglosArentHuman Among EU

    • @Laachen
      @Laachen Před 11 měsíci +9

      Most of the larger maps suck. Which might actually help Vale, honestly.

  • @BaronVonMott
    @BaronVonMott Před rokem +485

    Even as the Great Wars of the 1900's reached their peak, Sultan Teddy was suddenly blessed by a divine vision, and immediately departed Istanbul, claiming he was on a holy quest. He left his trusted Grand Visier, Soll, in command of military matters until his curious sabbatical was complete.
    The great Sultan travelled into the remote depths of the mountains, when there discovered the monster he was tasked to slay: a great living storm that swirled and crackled with the force of pure rage incarnate. For entire days and nights, he endured the tempest, battling his way into it's eye, and there supposedly "tore out the heart of the gale". Exactly how this was accomplished remains unknown, for the Sultan never gave any greater detail of his feat, but all agree he returned home to the capital a greatly changed man.
    The masterful resurgence of the Empire in the years that followed was the stuff of legend in its own right. Some claim his Excellency had ascended beyond the realm of mere mortal men; the entire kingdom of Italy, or so the story goes, submitted to his rule simply at his order to do so. With the destruction of Russia, and the collapse of the Northern Allies soon thereafter, all Europe fell at last to the mighty Ottoman Empire, reborn anew amidst the fires of war. And forever after, this incredible triumph would be owed to one man above all: Sultan Teddy, The StormBreaker.

    • @bb010g
      @bb010g Před rokem +31

      Beautiful.

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 Před rokem +73

      First of all, I will not allow you to utter the name "Teddy Roosevelt" without the title "Sultan and Caliph, peace be upon his name." .

    • @kamiriniko
      @kamiriniko Před rokem +27

      I feel like teddy should change his name to the title Stormbreaker as a badge of honor for this

    • @iainoftheizzetleague9850
      @iainoftheizzetleague9850 Před 10 měsíci +7

      I'm leaving this reply so I can laugh at this comment when I annually delete a bunch of my comments.

    • @polygontower
      @polygontower Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@iainoftheizzetleague9850 Hello!

  • @skengo9817
    @skengo9817 Před rokem +637

    This game is absolutely legendary when it's played in a history class with like 30 people, 5 on each team

    • @corbinnicholson945
      @corbinnicholson945 Před rokem +57

      I feel you may have experience with this

    • @Axius27
      @Axius27 Před rokem +40

      I feel like team is the wrong word...
      Parliament? Congress?

    • @skengo9817
      @skengo9817 Před rokem +53

      @@Axius27 A government, if you will

    • @Axius27
      @Axius27 Před rokem +62

      @@skengo9817 I wonder if you could add an extra layer of politics to Diplomacy by having teams vote on their next move rather than decide as a group. Not only do you have to worry about the enemies across the border, you have to also worry about the enemies within those borders too.
      Hmm, but to get a group large enough to make that a factor, there would be enough people in the game to fill a house of parliament. That'd be damn near untenable without a streamlined framework of operation, and it's probably a bad sign if your game requires a constitution to work properly :/

    • @Totas_funnynumber
      @Totas_funnynumber Před rokem +19

      ​@@Axius27 throw in the ability for players to switch or create their own team

  • @trixie2558
    @trixie2558 Před rokem +1542

    Vale, fyi: 'Diplomacy' does not entail firebombing your enemies until they agree, nor does it entail throwing waves of men at the enemy until they agree.

  • @williambeisel5686
    @williambeisel5686 Před rokem +449

    Teddy playing in the middle of a hurricane in the most Theodore Roosevelt move ever

    • @bengal4047
      @bengal4047 Před 3 měsíci +17

      It really is. Wasn't Teddy R. the one who got shot in the middle of a speech and kept fucking _going_ while security tackled the guy?

    • @HeresyGremlin
      @HeresyGremlin Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@bengal4047Yep, that was Roosevelt alright.

  • @Astar24653
    @Astar24653 Před rokem +625

    i love how many of these videos end with "please lets just all make this one person win so we can all be free"

  • @phantomgaming7544
    @phantomgaming7544 Před rokem +284

    My favorite thing about this is how maivi could've done a stalemate, but because of a backstab early on in the game, she then backstabbed them both so teddy could win with the hurricane in the background

  • @ewancarothers3732
    @ewancarothers3732 Před rokem +395

    The joker running Austria hungry is pretty accurate to real life

    • @kaiservonpanzer213
      @kaiservonpanzer213 Před rokem +26

      Is austria hungary just the joker of europe

    • @inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      @inquisitorbenediktanders3142 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@kaiservonpanzer213 was

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Před 16 dny

      ​@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      When does Austria-Hungary come back as a twink?

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Před 16 dny

      ​@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      When does Austria-Hungary come back as a twink?

  • @maivioz
    @maivioz Před rokem +221

    they still be molding to this day:)

    • @amora1246
      @amora1246 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Do you have the link to this mod?

  • @shilohmagic7173
    @shilohmagic7173 Před rokem +256

    "Aw, but I just made an agreement with Dyno... I'd feel so ba..."
    "Just backstab him, it's fucking diplomacy, kill him!"
    I love this group.

  • @LordDesolator777
    @LordDesolator777 Před rokem +747

    I love this game so much.
    Played it in AP European History class in high school as France. Our class was divided into groups of 3, except my group, which had 2. Most of my friends were Germany, and most of my partner's friends were Britain. Very quickly Germany, France, Russia, and Italy (who we forced to join) formed the Quadruple Alliance to take out Britain. Over the course of the game the Quadruple Alliance slowly wore down Britain and left Austria to die at the hands of the Ottomans. In true European fashion, after the Asian power had weakened Austria, The Quad Alliance stole most of the land. As we approached the final turn, Germany proposed an "intervention" into Russia. This left their western border completely undefended. Iirc, Germany had 6 supply centers, and when the map updated after the last turn, 3 of them became French. My friend who led Germany was so stunned by the betrayal he wouldn't talk to me for a while after that. I told my teacher to give my partner a free A because I didn't let her play the game because she constantly wanted to be friends with Britain and the British tried to use her as a spy.

    • @MasterObservato
      @MasterObservato Před rokem +59

      Yoo, someone else who played it in AP Euro! My game had the class split into trios for each country, my team got England. After going for Norway first, I was able to convince the others to go for St. Petersburg. Somehow this was unresisted and glorious Albion purple went up over the map. Undefendable, yes, but at the time very satisfying to see. But then I was unable to convince the other two to build fleets, and they insisted on building up the British army instead. Needless to say any chance of further expansion went up in smoke. I have never facepalmed so hard in a board game since.

    • @MudakTheMultiplier
      @MudakTheMultiplier Před rokem +19

      So did you do it all in one day or was it one turn a day and you could do scheming outside of class?

    • @MasterObservato
      @MasterObservato Před rokem +22

      @@MudakTheMultiplier In my case, we had one session and we played maybe 4 turns only? So hardly enough time to finish a game but we had to move on

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem +3

      E‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

    • @LordDesolator777
      @LordDesolator777 Před rokem +20

      @@MudakTheMultiplier We played it over the course of a few months. I think we played it on every friday once a week. We would have the entire 40-ish minute class period for a turn. Don't remember what year we ended on, but we ran out of time when the semester was wrapping up.

  • @NovelPond
    @NovelPond Před rokem +1204

    The best part of playing War Thunder is that you will instantly lose the torture board game. And won't have to sit and lose your mind for 8 hours in table top sim

    • @hedgeearthridge6807
      @hedgeearthridge6807 Před rokem +146

      War Thunder itself is a torture game, of which I have almost 300 hours and have uninstalled and reinstalled probably 10 times now

    • @NovelPond
      @NovelPond Před rokem +107

      @@hedgeearthridge6807 best Way to descibe WT is as a toxic love hate relationship

    • @sinblio1413
      @sinblio1413 Před rokem +33

      @@NovelPond as a person nearing 2k hours and around the same amount of money spent, I couldn't agree with your statement more

    • @Zyppah.
      @Zyppah. Před rokem +18

      @@NovelPond as a man with 5000 hours in WT, i can confirm

    • @D.b._Lord
      @D.b._Lord Před rokem

      And now I’m playing it cause of boredom

  • @cluelesswanderer
    @cluelesswanderer Před rokem +242

    Teddy trying negotiate with Vale after screwing him over was so funny.

  • @cheyannegiles9772
    @cheyannegiles9772 Před rokem +101

    Color Text Guide:
    Vale: White
    Lynx: Mint green
    Maivi: Pink
    PedeJo: Really pale orange
    Dyno: Purple
    Rue: Green
    Teddy: Yellow
    Solll: Brown

  • @GreenestLegion
    @GreenestLegion Před rokem +201

    46:55 The idea of someone playing with an inaccurate map is funny to me. And part of me thinks that if Vale does another video on Diplomacy that he could torture people with that. Like, imagine if Vale (the torturer) is the only person moving the pieces and everyone else is making their turns based on 1 turn old screenshots. It'd probably be incredibly scuffed but it's an amusing thought.

    • @Cenodis
      @Cenodis Před rokem +39

      They could just draw on the image to get the current state with reasonable accuracy. There might be a few miscommunications but I dont expect too many mistakes to happen that way. Wouldnt change the game that much.
      How about "fog of war" instead? I.e. instead of seeing the whole map you only see your tiles and the tiles next to your borders. And you dont see all the orders, instead you only get told the actions that happen in the tiles you can see. Would lead to a lot of "interesting" social dynamics because in order to get a grasp on the state of the game you have to trust other nations to relay their information to you.

    • @PixelRockett
      @PixelRockett Před rokem +8

      @@Cenodisisn’t that just CIV?

    • @dabestgrimmreaper4
      @dabestgrimmreaper4 Před rokem +11

      @@PixelRockett CIV without unit spam and economy being absolute king, but yes you could just decide to setup said game in civ on instant mode and everyone can only unlock certain things per turn and build certain things per turn.

    • @IneptRat
      @IneptRat Před rokem +2

      magic the noah did smth similar to this but the players never got to see the board

    • @bengal4047
      @bengal4047 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@IneptRat Was just about to suggest that vid; I love it to death. Nobody escapes the McDonalds playplace

  • @_Phoenyx_
    @_Phoenyx_ Před rokem +456

    I want to see you play Risk 2210 with ALL of the fan-made expansion maps. Have the entire group fight from one end of the solar system to the other. The video would have to be about two hours long.

    • @justiceforjoggers2897
      @justiceforjoggers2897 Před rokem +28

      Wait that's a thing? Oh my god I'm so excited

    • @_Phoenyx_
      @_Phoenyx_ Před rokem +56

      @@justiceforjoggers2897 The game? Yes. Will they play it? Probably not, but we can only hope.

    • @equilintogo5378
      @equilintogo5378 Před rokem +22

      The amount of dice rolling will be the torturous part

    • @Brent-jj6qi
      @Brent-jj6qi Před rokem +15

      Risk on its own is already an objectively torturous and shit board game

  • @larpingcat1897
    @larpingcat1897 Před rokem +177

    Recorded in an hurricane, released in an icestorm, poetic.

  • @_Narc
    @_Narc Před rokem +110

    “Once I realize I have zero chance of winning, I attach myself to the winner.” Vale saw he was playing italy and decided to use their most used strategy

  • @RealMothman98
    @RealMothman98 Před rokem +124

    I feel that energy Teddy has. During Ian, I attended a Discord D&D game like nothing was even happening.

  • @Kats_9
    @Kats_9 Před rokem +431

    The hardest part of diplomacy is getting together the people to play a full game. Idk how you did it.

    • @SJohann
      @SJohann Před rokem +18

      If you're on an Android device, I'd recommend trying out Conspiracy, It's Diplomacy but the standard turn timer is 24 hours.

    • @dynamo8846
      @dynamo8846 Před rokem +39

      Its not the first time we’ve played it, every couple months we do a game

    • @Kats_9
      @Kats_9 Před rokem +2

      My group has only ever managed to play one game with Italy. Normally it’s just the 6 player game, which is still great but it’s just not quite the same.

    • @Alex-tx2dh
      @Alex-tx2dh Před rokem +4

      @@dynamo8846 WOW just wanted to say thank you for keeping your subscriptions public. I'm almost all the way through and never have I seen a funnier list. Bless your heart!

    • @FanNotANerd
      @FanNotANerd Před rokem +4

      It helps when everyone is a content creator where doing this kind of thing is literally their job.

  • @liamcallahan9693
    @liamcallahan9693 Před rokem +348

    Diplomacy is also one of those games where you can create absolutely bonkers Valefisk-level variants that increase the suffering even further

    • @pizzajoke3561
      @pizzajoke3561 Před rokem +89

      The guy who made 5D chess (with multiversal time-travel) pitched the way 5D Diplomacy could work and what the rules would be to make the game function. However, such a game does not yet exist, perhaps for the best.

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 Před rokem +43

      @@pizzajoke3561
      As someone who has played 5D Chess (w/ Multiversal Time-Travel), I can just barely grasp the concept of what a “5D Diplomacy (w/ Multiversal Time-Travel)” would look like, and it terrifies me.

    • @pubcle
      @pubcle Před 9 měsíci

      @@chinsaw2727 I bought 5D Chess w/ Multiversal Time-Travel for a singular reason, and that was so that I could play a "normal" game of chess with my unsuspecting cousin and then checkmate him out of nowhere by time traveling and laugh.
      I played it a little bit, while I can easily understand the rules actually figuring out how to play it effectively feels almost insurmountable with an incredible amount of time investment.
      5D diplomacy sounds ungodly.

  • @nalan122
    @nalan122 Před rokem +25

    "This is getting too intense for me"
    "It's TALKING"
    Lynx is just like me

  • @MrsProudlyCanadian
    @MrsProudlyCanadian Před rokem +318

    Maivi is my favourite of Vale's friends. I find she works with his shenanigans well

  • @airforce4224
    @airforce4224 Před rokem +91

    Vales relationship with everyone:
    Allies: Yes
    Enemies: *Also yes*

  • @Mesarthim
    @Mesarthim Před rokem +388

    These kinds of videos take so long to come out, but they're so very worth it.
    Even more surprising is your victims seem to agree to their suffering.

    • @Zuinator
      @Zuinator Před rokem +17

      it’s that effect when captives fall in love with their perpetrator

    • @trysixtysnipeco
      @trysixtysnipeco Před rokem

      @@Zuinator Stockholm syndrome i think is the name

    • @jotaro7736
      @jotaro7736 Před rokem +8

      i believe they call this stockholm syndrome

  • @Tag573
    @Tag573 Před rokem +94

    Teddy is always like radioing in from the most cursed scenarios. First its the hoi game, now this.

  • @thejojomonado3647
    @thejojomonado3647 Před rokem +282

    A Valefisk video that's 1.5 hours long? What a treat

  • @Solll0
    @Solll0 Před rokem +55

    As the pasha of the Ottoman Empire this feels like i win.

  • @victorianmagnet9308
    @victorianmagnet9308 Před rokem +41

    I love how these all end with Vale and Maivi conspiring to go to end the game and sleep.

  • @themysticarcher3313
    @themysticarcher3313 Před 11 měsíci +19

    I love how at some point the game shifted to “trying to make Teddy win so we can go to bed”

  • @blazichaos7181
    @blazichaos7181 Před rokem +36

    I have an idea for a torture (or at least chaotic) version of diplomacy:
    **Diplomania:** Each of the countries has two players NEITHER of which can talk to each other. Each turn flip a coin to see who controls the nation this turn (or just swap each turn) including the "diplomacy (scheming) and play the game as usual. Let the complete chaos of 7 nations with split personalities, none of which have any idea what the other is scheming/planning, ensue.

    • @FishwicksREAL
      @FishwicksREAL Před 3 měsíci +3

      More insane version of this:
      Council for each nation.
      Each nation has 3-4 people as a group. One person is allowed to write the card. The other two can try to win normally (for reduced points due to not being commanding officer), or undermine the card writer in attempt to steal leadership.

  • @lumpman5109
    @lumpman5109 Před 11 měsíci +25

    I love Rue's defense of "you left me defenseless and ... Austria-Hungary?" because yeah, being Austria-Hungary really is a poor state to leave someone in

  • @Truly_Rudly
    @Truly_Rudly Před rokem +90

    I didn’t get to play this game very often, but some of my favorite memories are reading the orders, which occasionally included an order to "walk into the Atlantic with lead boots," or one instance of someone falsifying the orders of another player which they would have gotten away with if they didn’t sign their note card. Wish I had the chance to play Diplomacy more, thanks for the vid!

  • @delta138_zam
    @delta138_zam Před rokem +18

    Maivi, seconds in: “I will hold this grudge…!”
    Judging by the ChatGPT video, she did, in fact, hold that grudge

  • @nikorasu_karasu
    @nikorasu_karasu Před rokem +23

    Maivi, Lynx, and PedeJo were so concerned with constant backstabbing that they consistently worked against their own interests

  • @The_Angry_Kat
    @The_Angry_Kat Před rokem +17

    56:54 “no I’m not negotiating, did you notice” is my favourite libe

  • @solsystem1342
    @solsystem1342 Před rokem +32

    I love how vale made an entire animation setup for this instead of using backstabber or something similar that already exists. All you really have to explain is black orders worked and red orders failed.

  • @generalbacon7476
    @generalbacon7476 Před rokem +69

    Hey who's gonna tell him about the board game World Deplomacy. It's like the normal game of Diplomacy but there's like 28 different countries and it takes about a month or longer to play

    • @Corhal09
      @Corhal09 Před rokem +6

      That terrifies me

    • @OhhiBukai
      @OhhiBukai Před rokem +9

      There is a championship diplomacy game was played from 2001 - 2004. A game about ww1 took nearly as long as ww1 to complete.

    • @ladywaffle2210
      @ladywaffle2210 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@OhhiBukai Who won

    • @jokewhygaming4173
      @jokewhygaming4173 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ladywaffle2210 There was a different one from 2012-2016. It ended in a stalemate with Italy in first, Germany in second with Austria, and Russia in third. (Able to search it up if you want.)

    • @FishwicksREAL
      @FishwicksREAL Před 3 měsíci

      Pretty sure it was a draw.

  • @jythmivena6617
    @jythmivena6617 Před rokem +29

    "It's the fucking Joker running Austria-Hungary"

  • @DeadPerfection
    @DeadPerfection Před rokem +8

    *"I don't need power for my internet, my internet is not real"*
    ~Teddy Roosevelt

  • @ThatOneGoatGuy
    @ThatOneGoatGuy Před rokem +66

    somebody needs to turn this into an animated timelapse of the map

  • @weirdowithaninternetconnec9136

    The weather outside is frightful, the weather in the video is frightful, the screams are delightful

  • @gaslitgames
    @gaslitgames Před rokem +38

    Can't believe Vale managed to get a hurricane going in order to torture people this time

  • @cytokindness
    @cytokindness Před rokem +69

    If Valefisk is a fan of the multiplayer boardgame format of simultaneous turn resolution, deliberately constrained resources and moves, secret alliances being necessary but betrayal being inevitable due to a sole winner - I think he'd be a fan of the Solium Infernum remake when it launches.
    It's a hex-based simultaneous strategy game set in a Paradise Lost inspired hell, one that is both intensely bureaucratic and prone to horrible violence and treachery. Eg you can't just go to war on your own, you need to manufacture a causus belli as an excuse to start a parliament-sanctioned vendetta. Sometimes your turn log can even lie to you if someone has specced into the deceit power set.
    You unfortunately can't get the original anymore - but the full 3D remake is launching sometime next year.
    czcams.com/video/FWaKCknc39s/video.html
    "To reign is worth ambition
    Though in this place of darkness made visible
    Better to rule in hell / than serve in heaven"

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Love how Vale realizes halfway through that the real victory is not having to play the game anymore.

  • @Q_z_
    @Q_z_ Před rokem +14

    Can confirm diplomacy is an amazing game. Our teachers had to put a ban on even mentioning it in class because kids were negotiating and discussing tactics during lessons

  • @windraker007
    @windraker007 Před rokem +127

    Hey, could also be an awesome game in a snowstorm. New York is getting buried right now and I'm happy that we are currently watching your video and staying warm and safe.

    • @masterjbt
      @masterjbt Před rokem

      I was at new york yesterday and today and it was not snowing

    • @ImperialVictory
      @ImperialVictory Před rokem +10

      @@masterjbt They mean upstate

    • @windraker007
      @windraker007 Před rokem +3

      It's from PA to Niagara Falls / erie and niagara counties.

    • @slimely9758
      @slimely9758 Před rokem +3

      @@masterjbt ITS -8 AND SNOWING WTF U MEAN

    • @masterjbt
      @masterjbt Před rokem +1

      @@ImperialVictory ah

  • @X-SPONGED
    @X-SPONGED Před rokem +17

    "They were like "No, don't bother even trying to negotiate with him. It's not worth it." No, it's the fucking Joker running Austria-Hungary"
    _- Emperor Valefisk of Italy, Diplomacy_ [11:29]

  • @berlinerooskapenaar
    @berlinerooskapenaar Před rokem +90

    Okay but like seriously this game actually seems so fun

    • @Charliehopper684
      @Charliehopper684 Před 10 měsíci +6

      I thought that until they were playing for 5 and a half hours

  • @polarvortex6496
    @polarvortex6496 Před rokem +11

    From TVTropes:
    "A Gambit Pileup involves two or more people with completely separate agendas each hatching complicated plans. The storyline is thrown into chaos and even the most savvy fans can't predict how it will all end. Be prepared to make a flow diagram to keep up with everyone's scheme."

  • @maxwellweiss9849
    @maxwellweiss9849 Před rokem +88

    Watching this while at break when it’s -40 degrees outside. Wonderful

    • @strych9ines
      @strych9ines Před rokem

      Celsius or Fahrenheit?

    • @erictheepic5019
      @erictheepic5019 Před rokem +8

      @@strych9ines Doesn't matter. -40 C is -40 F.

    • @monochrome3168
      @monochrome3168 Před rokem +17

      @@erictheepic5019 -40 degrees kelvin :)

    • @strych9ines
      @strych9ines Před rokem

      @@erictheepic5019 oh wow! you got the joke! congrats.

  • @Mini1124
    @Mini1124 Před rokem +34

    Teddy's playing in a Cat 5 Hurricane and I'm watching this in a -40 degree Blizzard, how fitting

  • @thewingedporpoise
    @thewingedporpoise Před rokem +19

    Valefisk: loves to torture his friends
    also Valefisk: loves diplomacy
    yeah this makes perfect sense

  • @zephyrod7307
    @zephyrod7307 Před rokem +14

    Ah yes, hurricane Ian gameplay. Did some of that myself, was the only apartment block around to not have a power outage.
    The “aren’t you in the middle of a hurricane” messages were gold

  • @f3tsch906
    @f3tsch906 Před rokem +51

    Can recommend the app version "conspiracy" of this game. Has some more gamemodes and a lot of other maps, while most of it is very practically automated

    • @DJLite4011
      @DJLite4011 Před rokem +3

      Went and downloaded that app after this video, ran into like three other people that read your comment, lol

    • @f3tsch906
      @f3tsch906 Před rokem

      @@DJLite4011 nice

  • @snafubar447
    @snafubar447 Před rokem +12

    "We're both shitboxes. What if we work together to make one *giant* shitbox?"
    That's probably the best strategery I've ever heard.

  • @alansmithee419
    @alansmithee419 Před rokem +10

    "A man will nearly die in a hurricane, it's completely worth it."
    Big oil be like.

  • @xaviermatheson9406
    @xaviermatheson9406 Před rokem +13

    I had to play a game of Diplomacy for a grade in a college class. I got Italy, and despite being the worst option statistically, I managed to dominate the board and win.

  • @fbihorse
    @fbihorse Před rokem +26

    The tags in the description are the ultimate motto of this channel. “Pain, Gaming, Valefisk”

  • @FurryWrecker911
    @FurryWrecker911 Před rokem +9

    38:08 I love how in the span of seconds, this went from anger to confusion to humor on Lynx's behalf.

  • @daverapp
    @daverapp Před rokem +5

    "Give me a map! Give me an accurate map! I need an updated map to play!"
    "This map won't load! Where are your units?!"

  • @StepperBox
    @StepperBox Před rokem +13

    Only 25 minutes in and Teddy is already the MVP. "Fuck you Hurricane, I wanna play Deplomacy!"

  • @beepbop6542
    @beepbop6542 Před rokem +67

    Ah yes, the diplomacy digital board game. Also know as HOI4. Thank you CZcams

  • @Azrazel_qwp
    @Azrazel_qwp Před rokem +21

    Vale and Maivi being goblins together made my day somehow xd

  • @coffeebreakwithbenji357
    @coffeebreakwithbenji357 Před rokem +14

    I like when you explain what happens, please don’t be scared to do it too much it’s easier to follow, love the simplistic map you made too

  • @FixedKarma
    @FixedKarma Před rokem +6

    The deal making of this game is like Catan, you're not exactly willing to trade with your enemy but you have to if you want to win, so everyone is begrudgingly working together.

  • @SebHaarfagre
    @SebHaarfagre Před rokem +5

    1:21:04
    "Sprung"
    "Harvest"
    *LOL*
    You know they've been playing for a while now 😂

  • @ewanhogg3068
    @ewanhogg3068 Před rokem +6

    04:00 I'm reliably informed that being right in the middle of a hurricane is where you *want* to be, so this is fine.

  • @SephirothRyu
    @SephirothRyu Před 5 měsíci +6

    Hurricane Diplomacy is a thankless task. In part because hurricanes are never willing to negotiate.

  • @XTempestBuster
    @XTempestBuster Před rokem +38

    This is incredible. The dedication to play in horrible weather

  • @peaceofcrap
    @peaceofcrap Před 18 dny +2

    I love how halfway through Vale just absolutely snaps and goes full Diplomacy John Wick on Teddy and Rue

  • @Cirib1n
    @Cirib1n Před rokem +6

    Me, a Floridian hearing that a player was in the middle if a hurricane: (0-o-0)
    Bonus: Hurricane, as a "technical difficulty"

  • @steveroyal6229
    @steveroyal6229 Před rokem +10

    I remember playing this back in highschool and I've never lost so many friends playing a god damn board game in one sitting.

  • @bobbacon1398
    @bobbacon1398 Před rokem +20

    As a Grand strategy buff this game's mere existence makes me incredibly happy

  • @chromiumos4114
    @chromiumos4114 Před rokem +5

    If Only Teddy knew that internet is still powered even if no power is supplied to fusebox and he only needs to find a power source for his router (AA Batteries)

  • @dynamo8846
    @dynamo8846 Před rokem +21

    Did you hear of the tragedy of Tsar Dyno of Russia?

  • @etherdeef4303
    @etherdeef4303 Před rokem +5

    *moves army to lynx’s border*
    “Oh noo, i didnt mean to betray you lynx”
    hold on a minute

  • @bionicleone
    @bionicleone Před 19 dny +2

    The more of Valefisk’s videos I watch the more I realize Maivi is arguably the best game player of all of them. By a significant margin

  • @thelostcause7983
    @thelostcause7983 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Teddy playing on his laptop with his Hotspot during Ian might be the most Florida thing to happen in a video