Top 6 | Best Budget Cymbal Sets Under 300 Euros | Thomann

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  • čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
  • Tommi and Frank demonstrate what our customers consider the most relevant cymbals under 300 Euros. Which are your favourites?
    Product used: tho.mn/top6c
    Interesting bits and pieces:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:07 Zultan Rock Beat Cymbal Set
    0:22 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    0:53 16" Crash | Playing
    1:29 20" Ride | Playing
    2.07 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    3:58 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    4:36 Zildjian ZBT Cymbal Set
    4:53 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    5:11 16" Crash | Playing
    5:38 20" Ride | Playing
    6:08 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    8:10 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    9:13 Sabian B8X Cymbal Set
    9:34 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    10:10 16" Crash | Playing
    10:44 20" Ride | Playing
    11:57 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    14:28 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    15:36 Meinl HCS Cymbal Set
    16:12 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    16:35 16" Crash | Playing
    16:53 12" China | Playing
    17:06 20" Ride | Playing
    17:33 18" Crash | Playing
    17:54 16" Trash-Crash | Playing
    18:38 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    20:55 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    21:46 Millenium B20 Cymbal Set
    22:09 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    22:46 16" Crash | Playing
    23:19 20" Ride | Playing
    24:05 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    26:17 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    27:30 Paiste 201 Cymbal Set
    27:52 14" Hi-Hat | Playing
    28:21 16" Crash | Playing
    28:53 20" Ride | Playing
    29:30 Frank Playthrough | Playing
    31:08 Tommi Playthrough | Playing
    32:22 Conclusion & Goodbye!
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Komentáře • 156

  • @thecoronavirus6636
    @thecoronavirus6636 Před 4 lety +24

    Alternate title: two dudes have a drum battle with a bunch of cheap cymbals

  • @eloann
    @eloann Před 6 lety +76

    The Zultan are definitely a class above the others. I would like to hear comparisons of the various Zultan series.

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  Před 6 lety +23

      Working on that !

    • @KenKlejs
      @KenKlejs Před 6 lety +14

      That way I wouldn't have to buy an entire shipment of cymbals, only to return them :P Oh, and thanks for trying to crash on the ride cymbals. Very important to know if they are "crashable".

    • @eloann
      @eloann Před 6 lety +7

      So I'm not the only one who thought about ordering a truckload of them just to make up my mind. I still expect to end up with maybe 3 sets for variety since they're so affordable. And I'm now a bass player.

  • @jace1449
    @jace1449 Před 5 lety +22

    I have to say, after watching this video I purchased the set of zultan cymbals and they are extremely highly quality for the price, they sound just as good live as they do in this video! Thank you thomann for making these!

  • @TedDiabetes
    @TedDiabetes Před 4 lety +12

    Genuinely blown away by that Zultan set.

  • @fermiLiquidDrinker
    @fermiLiquidDrinker Před 5 lety +92

    The Zultan and Milleniums blew the other cymbals right out of the water. The Milleniums were _really good_ for their price too.

    • @Philipp.of.Swabia
      @Philipp.of.Swabia Před 4 lety +2

      Ian's sad horrible excuse of a channel yes and they are even b20 , just like the Zultans .🤔

    • @Pro1938ftc3ch
      @Pro1938ftc3ch Před 3 lety

      Where can you find zultan cymbals

    • @tea2920
      @tea2920 Před 3 lety

      @@Pro1938ftc3ch thomann

    • @Pro1938ftc3ch
      @Pro1938ftc3ch Před 3 lety

      @@tea2920 ALLL LAAAATTTEEE!!!!🤣 nah I'm playing but I already got some other cymbals😂

    • @tea2920
      @tea2920 Před 3 lety

      @@Pro1938ftc3ch lol which ones did you bought

  • @drummerjosh1984
    @drummerjosh1984 Před 5 lety +48

    Zbt's are the worst... That was the first set I got, I never could even force myself to use the ride

  • @domgreen1859
    @domgreen1859 Před 5 lety +3

    Zultans sound amazing I was constantly surprised throughout the video at how each new set just wasn’t beating them in terms of sound, great job guys!!

  • @ronniek7748
    @ronniek7748 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video guys! My favourite was Zultan. Best value were Meinl and Millennium. Weakest was Zildjian ZBT, especially the crash.

  • @osodrums7897
    @osodrums7897 Před 5 lety +2

    Yeah I’m choosing Zultan once I get a Gig-Kit build going, great video!

  • @ronniek7748
    @ronniek7748 Před 4 lety +14

    Zultan Rock Beat :17. Zildjian ZBT 4:42. Sabian B8X 9:19. Meinl HCS 15:41. Millennium B20 21:53. Paiste 201 27:41

  • @stephenjones7520
    @stephenjones7520 Před 6 lety

    very good video, love the format

  • @balddrummer8736
    @balddrummer8736 Před 4 lety +2

    Those zultans are worth looking at!! They sound great!!

  • @Lucdera
    @Lucdera Před 5 lety +32

    The ZBT Crash sounds a bit like a splash...

    • @alyxl4mb904
      @alyxl4mb904 Před 3 lety

      Might just be me but I think 16" crashes are so easy to mess up the sound on that's why I use 18 and 20 inch crashes

  • @pierrepetry5734
    @pierrepetry5734 Před 5 lety +2

    Great sound at the price!

  • @mathieubounty9544
    @mathieubounty9544 Před 5 lety +4

    I am really estonished by the Millenium ones ! I like their sound

  • @Hannibu
    @Hannibu Před 5 lety +8

    The Zultans are at least one class over the others. They can compete with cymbals that cost more than double the prize. In a blind test I doubt if one can hear a difference between e. g. Zildjian A, Meinl Byzance, Sabian AAs.
    I have heard some 200€ crashes from big brands which didn't sound as good as this 16".
    Then comes the Milleniums. For 200 € it is fantastic. For rock the hihat is all you need. For my tast the crash and the ride are to washy. But the ride would make an excellent big crash.
    A big dissapointment is the Zildjian ZBT Series. Even some of the Meinl HCS (brass) sound better.
    You don't get a good set for 300€ from the main brands. There you have to put some 200€ more in to it, to get a decent cymbal set (14" hihats, 16" crash, 20" ride).

  • @fearon5765
    @fearon5765 Před 6 lety +6

    I really like all the demos Thomann has done about drum parts. I hope more will come.

  • @claystaggs8908
    @claystaggs8908 Před 5 lety +32

    Damn guys let them cymbals breathe. They sound like crap when you crank em down too tight. I had a set of zbts a while back and they sounded pretty damn good but I barely screw the wingnuts down.

    • @banana_in_a_tuxedo
      @banana_in_a_tuxedo Před 3 lety +2

      its also bad for the cymbals

    • @alyxl4mb904
      @alyxl4mb904 Před 3 lety +1

      It's a matter of preference and the cymbals aren't even cranked down cranked would be no movement everyone likes their shit different

  • @DrummerGrrrl
    @DrummerGrrrl Před 5 lety +45

    Those Zildjian ZBT's sound like crap! I liked the Sabian B8X Ride and Hi-Hats. The Crash was my least favorite.

    • @imahorse5596
      @imahorse5596 Před 5 lety +1

      NowI'mMe I agree. My school has ZBT and I’m just sick of it at this point. It’s a very pingy crash

    • @ThePrateekPradhan
      @ThePrateekPradhan Před 4 lety

      you cannot possibly like a b8 hihat

    • @chlum6295
      @chlum6295 Před 4 lety

      the b8x crash sounds kinda bad cuz its a 16 inch one, i reckon. the 18 inch one doesnt sound bad at all

    • @isaac3736
      @isaac3736 Před 4 lety

      @@chlum6295 Horrible, indeed.

    • @maltes666
      @maltes666 Před 3 lety

      the sabian b8 pro hihats sound good to

  • @FernandoCarvalho92
    @FernandoCarvalho92 Před 5 lety +3

    I have one 20'' Meinl HCS crash I bought from Thomann, and I'm pretty happy with it :D

  • @jordanyoung8703
    @jordanyoung8703 Před 5 lety +4

    The Zultans are amazing

  • @chetizsharma7582
    @chetizsharma7582 Před 5 lety +9

    21:46 millennium b20

  • @homemademusic7
    @homemademusic7 Před rokem

    Man I've never heard of Sultan, and they sound superb!

  • @Luger0312
    @Luger0312 Před 3 lety

    Man you can get some really nice cymbals on a budget nowadays. I own the Millenium B20 14" Crash, 16" Crash and 16" China which is my favourite, would have paid a lot more for that sound. I like Chinas with lots of wash and little gong. The Crashes also have some wash to them, a little undefined, which may throw some players off. But as I play mainly Metal, the somewhat thrashy washiness adds just perfect. I'd love to play that Hihat. But as it isn't sold seperately, I'll go to the Zultan RockBeat. Honestly I've heard and played Hihats that cost alot more than the whole B20 set and sound not as good.

  • @nazzare79
    @nazzare79 Před 6 lety +3

    The Millenium ride is more a crash/ride than a real ride. Anyway the best cheap crash: Dimavery DBEC (regular).

  • @roberttaylor139
    @roberttaylor139 Před rokem

    Tommi's really good!👍

  • @Drumsholic
    @Drumsholic Před 3 lety

    Rockbeat Ride is NIce and the total image of hihat and crash is Very nice!!Meinl has a nice offer but the sound isn't so good it seems too cheap.Sabians are bright but is No for me for the detail of low volume.Zildjians are bad. Millenium as surprise is an unbelievable nice set with nice and crispy close and open sound of hats, great sounding ride and only crash is NO for me but the set that beats straight as far better of Zildjians and close to Paiste Alpha series sounding!!For 199 euros i think is the best set!!Paiste 201 crash is nice, hihat it sucks and ride is nice too but all is for low volume situations.Nice review guys!!

  • @vinillawrance253
    @vinillawrance253 Před 4 lety +1

    Zultan cymbals .......sounding nice🤘🤘

  • @perttukilpelainen4010
    @perttukilpelainen4010 Před 4 lety +1

    Millenium sounds very good for old rock’n roll and blues music i think!! Best and cheapest?!

  • @angelonavarra8660
    @angelonavarra8660 Před 4 lety

    for me there's no one better over other ... I like hi-hat and crash zultan, ride millenium, china and trash-crash meinl .. it can mix them and test a cheap set, but that sounds extraordinary well.. sorry for my english

  • @LetterJae
    @LetterJae Před 4 lety +2

    That millennium ride has less bell sound but it sounds great crash!

  • @rallo_0239
    @rallo_0239 Před 4 lety

    Personally what do you guys think of the meinl hcs set because I think most of the cymbals except with the china, ride and trash are not the best sounding.

  • @raydoherty6830
    @raydoherty6830 Před 3 lety

    There are a big range of zultan cymbals which ones are played in the video pls

  • @genryhennis2102
    @genryhennis2102 Před 4 lety

    on the website you can get the millenium for $90!

  • @irok75
    @irok75 Před 2 lety

    B20 sounds best :) The millenium ride would make a great crash in my setup, he millenum 16" sounded dull to me.. Zultans sounded best overall.

  • @kernelxsanders
    @kernelxsanders Před 2 lety

    Man those Zultan and Millenium sets were just so far above, it was actually nice to have the other ones in the video to help accentuate how nice the Zultan and Millenium sets sound. The Meinls are the best value for an entry level drummer since it comes with double the amount of cymbals, they just sound so bad. Would have loved to see the Zultan and Millenium sets compared to Wuhans. In my opinion, Wuhan is the top dog for affordable cymbals, but after hearing these other sets, it's hard to tell when they aren't compared by the same people in the same set of circumstances regarding room, mics, etc.

  • @MeTuLHeD
    @MeTuLHeD Před 5 lety

    Gotta go with the consensus...the Zultan's are just head and shoulders above the rest. A tonal balance quite similar to Zildjian A Customs.
    The other sets were very hit or miss. I liked the Paiste hats.

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  Před 5 lety

      I know NOTHING about cymbals but I know what my ears like and I am with you
      //Andy

  • @cutthroatshotti222
    @cutthroatshotti222 Před 2 lety

    I’m definitely buying the zultans Q Series

  • @DavidL3O
    @DavidL3O Před 4 lety +3

    Those sultan cymbals sound phenomenal!!!! Are they available in the US??

    • @ReecePlaysDrums_
      @ReecePlaysDrums_ Před 4 lety

      They're Thomann exclusive, so they'd have to be imported to your order. I'm in the UK, so unfortunately I don't know how much that would cost, but I've been using them for years, and they sound amazing

  • @janinapinguin1208
    @janinapinguin1208 Před 6 lety +3

    T Drums for president

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker Před 4 lety +2

    I would like to have a set of those Milleniums to try them.

    • @Luger0312
      @Luger0312 Před 3 lety

      I own the 14" Crash, 16" Crash and 16" China. Go for it. You cannot go wrong for this price. I mean the worst feeling is when a beloved crash gets a crack. Well, get a new one for 60€. And they sound nice. Typical B20 sound with some rather undefined wash. If you play, say Jazz or Funk, this washiness may not be helpfull, but for Rock or Metal, it really has something to it.

  • @aaronlichow278
    @aaronlichow278 Před 4 lety

    The first Zultan set sounds good, The millenium set - pretty decent.

  • @Sam-de2oq
    @Sam-de2oq Před 3 lety +1

    I’m going to be honest, I love the 16” 201...

  • @chopper265
    @chopper265 Před 5 lety

    Hi does anyone know a good upgrade from the paiste pst 5s that are not too expensive so less than 650

  • @alexsavienkov8457
    @alexsavienkov8457 Před 3 lety

    please link to that dB meter

  • @chalinothebest
    @chalinothebest Před 5 lety +1

    Hey thomann Music !! greetings from colombia !!! how can i buy a set of zultan cymbals and shipped to colombia ??? pls i need to know, im in love with those

    • @user-lo1iv6tu6r
      @user-lo1iv6tu6r Před 5 lety

      Search them on Thomann UK and you can buy them. There's also a shipping option

  • @deadmoldable
    @deadmoldable Před 2 lety +1

    zultan hihat and crash, and the millenium b20 crash/ride.

  • @brosefmcman8264
    @brosefmcman8264 Před 4 lety +1

    Zultans sound great

  • @dadygee
    @dadygee Před 5 lety +2

    Zultan Aja Cymbals all around!

  • @lil_weasel219
    @lil_weasel219 Před 4 lety +5

    the Wuhan western rock style probs top all of these but I cant find them

  • @Kombi-1
    @Kombi-1 Před 6 lety +4

    Zultan!

  • @carldelic
    @carldelic Před 4 lety +1

    do that zultan ship to the philippines?

    • @asianmanok7017
      @asianmanok7017 Před 4 lety

      a litte late but did you find a seller here??

  • @aidanhodge3245
    @aidanhodge3245 Před 5 lety

    When you buy cymbals do they come with the stands or not?

  • @banana_in_a_tuxedo
    @banana_in_a_tuxedo Před 3 lety

    why tf is the zbt crash so high pitched?

  • @robsco1249
    @robsco1249 Před 2 lety

    Don't forget the Sonor Armoni...as good as Zultan rockbeat and as cheap.

  • @Philipp.of.Swabia
    @Philipp.of.Swabia Před 2 lety

    Im gonna get those millenniums, gonna put them into my Garden under the earth and wait for a few days, I love these cymbals, they are perfect for experimenting.

  • @ryzantium6798
    @ryzantium6798 Před 6 lety +8

    Comparing Cast cymbals to pressed sheet ones in my opinion is the same as comparing a bicycle to a super bike.

    • @renshammar
      @renshammar Před 5 lety +2

      For somebody who doesn't know and doesn't understand completely from google-ing it, could you explain the main differences?

  • @TheSentinel909
    @TheSentinel909 Před 3 lety

    Zultan is the best for me - but the Milleniums are incredible value for the price

  • @johnknight9150
    @johnknight9150 Před 3 lety

    Like everyone else, I liked the Milllenium cymbals best, followed by the Zultans. However, if I were starting out now, I would probably just deck my kit out with Staggs.

  • @MrNikolab
    @MrNikolab Před 4 lety

    Ziltan, millenium, sabian, paiste that interesting low budget sets. HCS Bronze much better than standard version from brass that we have herd now. HCS 🙉

  • @chopper265
    @chopper265 Před 5 lety

    Do u reckon the sultans r better than the paiste pst 5s?

    • @schwedenretter
      @schwedenretter Před 4 lety +1

      definetely. Pst are cheap b8, zultans are b20-bronze. You just pay for the paiste-logo!
      Check out sultan aja, they are cheap as hell and they sound like avedis.
      Zultan Raw is like Meinl Byzance dark

  • @nathanponzar3816
    @nathanponzar3816 Před 4 lety +2

    Zultans hands down. I think Wuhans are actually pretty nice too, though they weren't on here.
    Lawwdy those ZBTs sound like garbage. They were my first set. When I started recording at home I realized how truly cruddy they are. After a couple hits on the ride it just turns into a wash of unpleasant overtones. Pretty much the same for the Sabians. I wasn't a huge fan of the Milleniums. Hats were too high pitched for me and the crash sounded poopy. The ride was not bad though. That said, I liked them way better than the zildjians and sabians.

  • @wolfganghoffmann7731
    @wolfganghoffmann7731 Před 4 lety +1

    I play the Zultan Rock Beat (Pro = plus 18'' crash) and I'm looking for a pair of extra hi-hats. Seems hard to get a better deal than the Millenium B20 presented here. For less than 200 € you'll get a good hi-hat and "as a bonus" the crash and the (crash-)ride. You don't care about the brand? Go for the Millenium then.

  • @BarbellThor
    @BarbellThor Před 4 lety +1

    “Yea. I agree.”

  • @chsemaphor
    @chsemaphor Před 5 lety +1

    You should write a script in advance. Great demo, thanks!

    • @markt8517
      @markt8517 Před 5 lety

      Leyen Sento agree they said the same thing about all of them

  • @JoaoGPinheiro
    @JoaoGPinheiro Před 6 lety +3

    zultan are the best!!!!!!!

  • @MrNikolab
    @MrNikolab Před 4 lety

    Zultan очень интересные!

  • @compuvideos
    @compuvideos Před 4 lety

    Millenium and zultan

  • @gregordiezemann-io6zd

    ❤ZULTAN!❤

  • @deanfowles3707
    @deanfowles3707 Před rokem

    I'm a zultan convert. For the price they are just too good.

  • @willisdotcom
    @willisdotcom Před 4 lety +1

    zultan was the best sounding.

  • @Apr1L-j7u
    @Apr1L-j7u Před 4 lety +1

    Ich wusste nicht, dass Zultan eine Hausmarke von Thomann ist.

  • @Jetty-me6cw
    @Jetty-me6cw Před 4 lety +3

    Hey guys stop choking the shit out the cymbals. By loosing the nut the cymbals can breathe and we can hear what they really sound like.

  • @jeremystig98
    @jeremystig98 Před 2 lety

    I bought Meinl HCS 13 years ago. They used to be the best beginner cymbals but compared to the Zultans they are still pretty bad.

  • @Poeme340
    @Poeme340 Před 3 lety +1

    Zultan

  • @Logiser
    @Logiser Před 5 lety +2

    Those milleniums are pure gold for the price, or should i say pure B20 bronze

  • @Shurmstick
    @Shurmstick Před 4 lety +1

    20 zultan ride would make a great crash

  • @sackyboy03
    @sackyboy03 Před 5 lety

    Zultans sounded the best but if I were to mix match them I would probably do b8x hats, zbt ride, and paiste crash

  • @shadowstealer5
    @shadowstealer5 Před 5 lety +5

    Zultan is the best. Zildjians are awful, and the Sabians were alright. Since I'm in the U.S. I'm going to buy the B8X.

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters Před 4 lety

    Though the Meinls are brass they still sound better than everything on here besides the Zultans. Everything else sounds pretty awful.

  • @diegodrums
    @diegodrums Před 5 lety +1

    Sabian b8x or paiste 201???

  • @playstation2icon271
    @playstation2icon271 Před 4 lety +1

    Zultan wins here, but those ugly 201’s sound pretty damn decent as well. That 16” crash especially

  • @DrummerGrrrl
    @DrummerGrrrl Před 5 lety +15

    The Meinls are a severe disappointment. No sustain at all!

    • @IRLguy777
      @IRLguy777 Před 5 lety +5

      I don't know why they used Meinl HCS instead of MCS, HCS are brass and under 200 Euros while MCS are bronze and around 300 Euros.

    • @Philipp.of.Swabia
      @Philipp.of.Swabia Před 4 lety +1

      IRLguy or classics

    • @Shurmstick
      @Shurmstick Před 4 lety

      Classic customs rock

    • @feeverdream
      @feeverdream Před 4 lety

      @@Philipp.of.Swabia Classics are not really "low cost"

    • @Philipp.of.Swabia
      @Philipp.of.Swabia Před 4 lety +1

      AspePik yeah, they are right before the middle range

  • @simplyjb442
    @simplyjb442 Před 5 lety +3

    zultan is the best its b20

    • @giuliano8031
      @giuliano8031 Před 5 lety

      Jb Cool Kid Millenium is also B20 as the Name says.
      But look up the Zildjan S Series.
      THEY HAVE FREAKIN‘ Perfect Crashes and BUT they are B12.
      So don’t buy a Cymbal just because of it’s Alloy.
      Just hear how it sounds.
      As always on every product in General no matter how expensive it is and what Specs it has it always comes down on how the product is in real life not on the paper.

  • @johnmichael642
    @johnmichael642 Před 5 lety +2

    wuhan?

    • @electromuff7870
      @electromuff7870 Před 5 lety +1

      I mean their traditional or western cymbals are the only good ones. The 457 crash is 80% there.

  • @juanemmanuelsalinas2001
    @juanemmanuelsalinas2001 Před 4 lety +1

    don't overtight the symbols let them be a little bit loose

    • @M.S-Music
      @M.S-Music Před 4 lety

      overtighten* this is not motorsport were they OVERTAKE. Oh, and since i feel cocky here, its CYMBALS...

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters Před 4 lety +1

    Jesus, ZBTs sound absolutely terrible. The older ones were bad, but not THAT bad. Zildjian just has no idea how to work with B8.

  • @zdravkonovosel122
    @zdravkonovosel122 Před 4 lety

    And what about Zildjian Planet Z and Zildjian S series? You miss them.

  • @craiglist7363
    @craiglist7363 Před 6 lety +6

    wuhan rock. like under $100 us bro

    • @sfsf5555
      @sfsf5555 Před 5 lety +6

      wuhan cymbals are not available in europe

    • @electromuff7870
      @electromuff7870 Před 5 lety

      @@sfsf5555 it is in America

    • @sfsf5555
      @sfsf5555 Před 5 lety +7

      @@electromuff7870 but thomann is in europe

    • @giuliano8031
      @giuliano8031 Před 5 lety

      Clorox Bleach You can buy them just on Amazon?

  • @BobbyJetty1502
    @BobbyJetty1502 Před 3 lety

    Title of the video should’ve been how to not let your cymbals breathe, and the quickest way to break them!

  • @jonhattanrai
    @jonhattanrai Před 4 lety +2

    To me it's Zultan >>>>> Millenium >> Sabian = Zildjian > Paiste >>>> Meinl

  • @Mike-ol7xp
    @Mike-ol7xp Před 2 lety

    You have those cymbals tight enough jeez?!! This could've been a decent long living comparison vid, if you didn't choke out the cymbals. Yeah I know this video is 4 years old,.

  • @CyrilViXP
    @CyrilViXP Před rokem +1

    No favorites here. They all sound like cheap cymbals. But Zildjian is probably the worst here and Millenium - is the nicest one

  • @jaraesmackage1381
    @jaraesmackage1381 Před 3 lety

    I need a comprehensive crash/ride demo not a ride only demo....great review but crash the fucking ride bro ! 😳🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🧐

  • @martinverderosasanz1520

    Millenium the best..? Jajajaja

  • @brodyh2895
    @brodyh2895 Před 3 lety +2

    they picked the two most awkward ppl at all of thomann to do a half-hour video together

  • @ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785

    32 minutes for a video, that could've been reduced to 5 or 6 minutes...