This Dive Watch Has a Bizarre Secret | Watchfinder & Co.
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- The dive watch is unfamiliar to neither Oris nor watchmaking in general, a staple of the industry since the 1950s and a favourite of buyers today. But despite a number of weird and wonderful dive watches that have come and gone over the years, there really are only so many ways to skin a cat. The Oris ProDiver Date, however, is one of the more unusual ways.
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The Oris ProDiver 1000 M is one of the most beautiful dive watch in the world. I think it is more beautiful then the Rolex Submariner and the Omega Seamaster. Oris watches are also very affordable.
Great presentation as always, just one point that I would like to mention at the usage of the bezel: it is not meant to allow the diver measure underwater the time left to breathe from the tank, but to determine the max depth time that defines the dive stops to prevent decompression sickness. Preventing the bezel to accidentally rotate clockwise is vital for the diver’s life but again not for the air availability as it depends on a number of factors, like depth, workload, stress, cold, and personal air consumption
One more detail is the markings on the bezels: usually for most dive watches it is one minute up to 15 minutes. The reasons are that the early diving decompression tables (before diving computers came into life) were exhibiting time intervals of 5 minutes for the reference depths, whilst the decompression stops were up to 12 minutes in one minute increments. This is applying to all non-professionals watches
Professional watches like this are intended to use in the diving habitants and the bells. Never used by the commercial divers during their shift. It is the bellman that is of need of the watch having to measure several vital elements of his two divers working at the shift. For this reason, in such watches we find the one minute increments on the bezel and the helium escape valve, as the habitant and the bell are compressed with Heliox (He+O2) that is used as their breathing gas of the 28 days séjour of the divers.
"You'd die long before the watch does" Love it.
Mine died after 5 weeks and then took Oris three months to fix it.
@@dpd6401 OOF
More Oris please. I think their watches are very well made and priced so people like me can enjoy.
I've reached the point in my life where I can buy any watch I want. But, to be honest, I'm happy just watching the watches on this channel....
Thanks to this channel I saved a lot of money by buying a Zenith chrono instead of a Daytona. And I frikkin love it
Boat shaped indices and waves at the dial. Cool touch!
Super stoked you're showing Oris some more love on the channel. Glad they're getting more attention in the watch market. 👌
I love this channel. The host's voice and narration style is what sets it apart from everyone else. What's bizarre...is that it doesn't have millions of subscribers.
"...the same degree of overkill as a chastity belt..." Not something I'd expect to be mentioned in a watch review, but thanks for the analogy. I'm still laughing. You Sir, are a master at your craft.
The irony is that you don't get laid. So. There.
06:55 „here comes the bizarre bit..“ you‘re welcome..
The pleasure is in the journey. What's the rush?
god bless you
A lot of talk, and two minutes of talking on point.
Real heroes don't wear capes.
OMG its a diving watch with the date how bizaarre lol
be shopping here again for sure. Thanks.
oris fan and owner here. those bezel macros really show how mediocre the detail work really is. kind of a bummer for a pro diver imo.
I understand your point, but it's meant to he a tool not an accessorie, it still performs the same with or without those details. My humble opinion
Mark Kosmala the detail in the ceramic bezel would be cut with a laser much the same as a Rolex, it’s all about the quality of the machine that does it
and the speed it goes
@@rodrigogutierrezreyes4702 sure, but if that were my thought process i'd just get a Seiko for cheaper.
Yes it pained me to see that, I thought "zoom out please!" but that's what you get for the price point. Better detail that stands up to that level of magnification costs a lot more.
I own the zenith defy xtreme chronograph watch, and i ended up selling it as I was very disappointed with the hands, the markers not being luminous not even great. For the price I paid I was upset and I would rather have this oris
Wearing it in the shower is practically a crime, that’s some crazy thought right there. Very funny too. I like this guy.
This diver looks "badass" as hell. Really like it. It kind of reminds me of the Citizen 1000m Promaster diver
Brands with less than perfect finishing at the macro level should pay Watchfinder never to feature their watches on the channel 😉
Man that Oris is a damn fine looking watch,, i wish i could afford one,, I'm over 50 years old,& still can only afford a 50.00 timex,,..maybey one day i can have one before i die...a man needs a good watch once in his life....
I only just went back to wearing a watch since I was using a smartphone to tell time...just realized watches add so much style for a man. I got the Timex Navi XL Automatic...looks great.
Put aside just $10 a week and you can get one in a few years!
I agree, Bryant! I hope you get one soon.
Excellent as always, and wonderfully informative!
I don‘t get why everybody here is crying about the finishing. It‘s obviously a used watch. Maybe the hands have been treated rough at a service. And if not, it‘s still not a 20k-watch and you won‘t barely notice it with your pure eyes. Big fan of Oris at this pricepoint! If you want „perfection“ put at least 15k down and get a ALS. 😉😄
I have the 50mm Chronograph and i absolutely love it =)
Own many watches including Breguet and Rolex but I really like my Oris. Nice under the radar watch.
Don't know if I am being biased against a mid-level brand, but those macro shots show some pretty less than average finishing... I wouldn't be happy with this level of finishing for the price they are asking.
I would go further and call those hands atrocious. I haven't seen such bad finish on 500 dolar watches. Except Seiko. Those could be really bad 😂
David Jones well it’s an old model and a pure tool watch sooooo I don’t think anybody buying these care much about finishing but more about operation and use 🤷🏻♂️
@@Billeh556 still tool watch or not it could be better. Not perfect but better.
@@DienekesShade I've seen bad finishing on Seiko hands and, of course, the occasional misaligned chapter ring, but even the $300 ones have great detail on their bezels and indices. Then, again, I'm not sure how much this particular Oris costs. My Diver Sixty Five looks so much better in macro, but, judging from the depth rating for the one reviewed here, I'd guess it's considerably pricier than mine.
I've stopped buying these so-called "mid-level" Swiss brands (although, technically, that label actually applies to Rolex, Breitling and Omega as well which I'm not including) as they cost so much more than Japanese watches, yet, can't begin to match them in performance or durability. In the case of the watch reviewed here, it can't even match them in finishing. The only one I've never had any problems out of is my Ball Master Engineer II Skin Diver. I also have 2 Zodiac Super Seawolves that I have high hopes for, but, one of them already needs its crown fixed.
“A crown guard that can crack a man’s skull”
Absolute poetry 😂
It's a good day when watchfinder releases a new video.
ORIS is a great watch company.
Well done. Yours is the only review I have seen that recognizes the extra adjustment on the strap is for the diving suit. Most think it's just a micro adjustment for the strap. Gorgeous watch. Thanks!
Oris always surprises me. Their depth gauge is genius.
Serious divers do not dive with watches like this! We use dive computer watches!
At first glance quite interesting piece but closeup was pretty bad for swiss watch but it served it purpose for sure
I own this watch. I love it. Keeps great time and looks rugged. Just have to watch the screws that attach the strap. They will back out.
Just got one 3 weeks ago ! My grail watch ! Still enjoy my TT1 200 m diver though .Viva Oris !
Nasty finishing for a watch of this price. Hard to believe Oris makes this and the Aquis line. They're not really priced too differently. But the Aquis models have much better finishing.
I doubt it's new.
@@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer Yep, several years old
@@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer There is a mangled screw @4:12 which is recessed - given the marks, it was over-torqued. Unless someone has taken apart the bezel (unlikely as no other screws have even a scratch), this is a factory QA problem....
I own the Pro Diver Chronograph and the Limited Edition Dive Control, and believe me, construction quality is superb
Even though I’ll never be more than a desk diver, I want this watch badly. Not only do you present exquisite videos, you’re an exceptional salesman. I presume the movement of this fine timepiece is an ETA?
More likely, Sellita. Oris has not used ETA movements for years now.
Citizen has one interesting overkill diver.
This man has style that cannot be replicated.
How many dive watches that can withstand 1000 m depths do you know to have a chronograph and day date functions?
There is one, and was made by Oris more than 10 years ago as a homage for maybe the greatest free diver of all times, Carlos Coste.
That's a watch worthy of a "retro" review. Even the batiscaph case was on level of it's own.
Thankyou for another very fine video mates.
This was a great video. To me this is a more attainable time piece and that makes for more enjoyment. This is something I could actually imagine owning. I really enjoy the channel.
You guys need to review some Sinn's at some point
Yeah, I have the 556 blue dial. Super accurate and built like a tank.
Agree. I have the Sinn U1 and would love to see it here. THAT would be a true 1000 meter diver worth its name.
I have had several Oris watches over the years and although I really like them and think they are great value for money they are very hard to sell on, watch dealers won’t touch them for some reason so you have to sell private. Just thought I’d mention it.
Being the owner of an Oris Pro Diver chronograph and regular diver, I find the watch useless underwater and not suited to this harsh environment. The rubber protector on the bezel is weak and mine ripped early in my ownership. My watch broke down 5 weeks after purchase and then had to wait three months for Oris Australia for a part before it could be repaired. In 6 years it's had three visits to Oris for repair / service. I own two late model Oris watches and won't be buying a third. Oris Australia can't even polish the case and band because it's titanium. I'd hate to think how much it would cost to replace the rubber bezel protector. The diving aspect of this watch is just a wank. All divers wear computers on their wrists today, not a watch which is why I also own two Suunto dive watches, they're fit for purpose. This watch is a pretty ornament on your wrist.
Beautiful watch, but it doesn't quite stand up for macro lens scrutiny. Quality not quite there... Well, that's bizarre for the price.
Dark Of Light it’s pre-owned?
Not sure if this is true but that locking feature is borrowed from high end “tactical” riflescopes. It prevents accidental rotation of a scope’s elevation or windage knobs. I guess adds a of safety for piece of mind when you’re deep underwater and in the dark.
Thanks to Watchfinders macro shots, you can really guess the price of a watch! Personally I have a simple Vostok Amphibian in my collection, equipped with a bezel covering 20min in red and 40min in blue (so, technically it‘s not a pepsi). I use it often to time phone calls, presentations and preparing time. Simply turning the bezel 0 to when the event starts and stay within the „red zone“ to keep it short. Or turn 0 to the point where something should end (and make sure it comes to an end as soon the minute hand enters the red zone).
My watch is attached to my phone and video player, and it talks to me in a voice possibility borrowed from Jeremy Clarkson aged 13 & 3/4 ;)
I like this watch. I like it a LOT
It would be a stronger video if it showed the watches being described, e.g. the Weems and Xerograph.
Love the video ... the watch looks really cool but a bit too big
Norqain freedom . Changing the date !! Took me a while to find ..
I don't know if we need more dive watch variations but we certainly won't be tired of them.
We wanted oris big crown
Minute repeater plsssss
By the way from what I understand divers use the oxygen gauge to know how much air they have not the watch
If your bottom time is over an hour, which is certain at a depth near 1000 meters, the bezel won't give the correct bottom time anyway.
A 200m diver is overkill for most a 1000m depth rating is like arming a bomber with more than 20 tactical nukes. But as military strategists say "overkill is underrated."
Love my sea dweller
Lol, and I love my Doxa 1200T😉
I own the Chronograph version. Its my daily beater and absolutley love it. It gets the most attention and compliment ...by guys (of course). Last week a guy said: "Thats a bloody nice watch ! You can knock someone out with that thing."
I owned the same and then got it robbed. Really like the chrono diver just the way it looked but was a bit on the big side. I've now replaced it for a rolex black sub date, more of an easier wear
Great watch, but as some comments, finishing looks bit...unfinished?...
Lume shot would be nice. Do the bezel markings glow in the dark?
Oof, there's a lot of smudges and crud on the hands... :(
Edit: also the burrs all over the bezel are disappointing too...
And that ugly continuous seem at side of the bezel edge... For this kind of money I would expect near perfect watch. It seems like Swiss labor costs are too high, or CEOs are lining their pockets thick.
@Elijs Dima Where/when do you see that?
@@Rabauke2.0 any time the pivot or the end of the minute and hour hand is shown.
I concur
Only buy rolex
I have a Ballast Trafalgar that has a unique feature, the outer ring on the bezel is used to not only wind the movement but also to set the time and date. I think it's really cool and a definite conversation starter. Great content sir, thank you, keep making your videos, great channel.
I love Oris but damn, it doesn't hold up to macro closeups. Build quality is pretty bad
Agreed. But it's the ultimate tool watch.
Remember, it's a 3000$ watch, not 10,000$.
@@philippietropaolo2728 Sure, but you can get better build quality in $300 watches... For $3000, as you say, this is appalling.
Elijs Dima how many $300 watches have you seen under this level of magnification?
@@dazgreen watch other videos that Watchfinder has done and you will see some. They put all their money into the tool aspect of the watch but let's be real, how many people actually need this level of diver? I had an Oris Depth Gauge for a while and then realized how freaking stupid it was to have a 1000m watch, even IF you dive!
@watchfinder can you make a video on what is the big difference between a department store watch like a Citizen or Movado vs an entry level luxury watch vs a full on luxury watch. I have a lot of these watches that I change every day of the week and sometimes wonder if one Tudor would be more satisfying, yeah I know happiness comes from within, but what do you think?
I actually think the bezel is perfect for someone a bit OCD.
When you're sat on the sofa and you see the bezel is 1 tick out - on par with running out of oxygen on the ocean bed
Not a diver here, but I've read a lot and heard from experts that the bezel is not to know how much oxygen remains in the tank, you can't really know, it depends on your breathing rythm
In response to different features I have a Yema Superman Bronze which has a locking clasp for the bezel as part of the crown. To move the bezel you have to release the screw down crown. I think its unique to Yema ?
8:20 "1 0 00 METRE S" awful kerning
Yeah, Oris in hand gave me a lacking feeling. Bezel was hollow, and it just doesn't ring true with higher quality build.
...Aaaand I'm out.
Pita Barcelona has a very cool dive watch, the Oceana. It is more unique than this (although I love this Oris!).
zodiac supersea wolf in early seventies did this went about 2500 ft and didnt need helium escape valve
Great looking watch but should be 20 bar. What if the bezel is somehow clicked up while diving? Still waterproof?
Oh those triple slotted bezel screws all need the same orientation.
The very long baptized CITIZEN PROMASTER Eco-Drive Marine Series Professional Diver 1000m BN7020-09E goes to the same depth, uses the sun a a power source in order to get 2 years of power reserve and has a proper bezel locking mechanism. Its an amazing timepiece that is extremely light for the size, using titanium as its mainstay.
By far... the bezel functions on the Rolex Sky Dweller is an amazing piece of mechanical engineering art.
I love Oris.Not because of quite affordable than others.Its always above of avarage
"Briny fate"!
I dont think it's in the least bit bizarre, but allowing the watch to leave the factory with such a poor level of finish is, tho.....
Well said.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & great macro shots, another interesting & informative video
Oris depth gauge is really strange too!
Reminds me of a Seiko Tuna Can.
Beautiful watch, built in ASMR when the bezel is in action.
Higher chance of smashing a sapphire than a mineral. 😜
Great video as always. Can you please review the A. Lange & Söhne Triple Split.
4:47 ..... So clever how you rotated the shot in the opposite direction to the second hands direction of travel.
RSI, for those like me who had to look it up, but were disappointed to find financial crap, means "Repetitive Strain Injury".
I own 2 Oris divers - one thing bad about them, it looks the same on every model :(
Ok, so why doesn't Oris give their regular divers' adequate depth ratings for professional diving?
Why is the minutes hand that scratched up? See 3:14. And the stamped out markings on the bezel are not very nice..
Thanx for an excellent channel! I’ve had my Citizen Aqualand Promaster since the early 90’s, and used it well. Worn it out, actually. So now I will buy it again. This legend is still in production. The JP2000-08E is my choise. I would LOVE to see a video about this watch, on your capable channel. Best regards from, Oslo, Stein.
very cool mechanism - be good on a smaller watch. Hard to believe on a watch 49mm sized the finishing is so slapdash. Expect better tbh
I realize it's meant to be a tool, but I just buy watches, including divers, because I like them. I couldn't buy this watch with the level of finish I saw on the bezel and hands. I think I've seen closeups of other Oris watches and the finish was a lot better IIRC.
Wonderful video as usual but I, personally, would not be happy with a watch with such poor finishing, particularly on the hands. but then for £1650.00 RRP perhaps its not that bad at all.
Poor finishing under the macro for sure. Bezel numbers, lines and holes had like burrs on them. I dont think I'd buy one but I kinda got OCD a little bit.
Mark Gilbert on their website it states it’s 3 years old.
@@Chris-oz9qx That wouldnt excuse the poor state of the hands would it?
Mark Gilbert likely not
@@mickeylickey123 ... I think the 'burrs' seen are the result of poor laser etching/engraving
If I ever go deep enough to need a helium escape valve, a shark 's got me... and bezel action will be the least of my problems.
Awesome video ! I wish you could film the lume longer .
The screws in the bezel don't line up! Would drive me nuts....
Very interesting video! Could you specify which model is reviewed here? Thanks a lot!
No watch stands the discerning scrutiny of super macro shots; but regarding comments regarding QC, dirt, burrs, etc..this is clearly a used watch. I would hold judgement til I was holding a brand new model out-of-the-box. So, while Oris isn't considered a top tier manufacturer, I agree that in general it is a great watch company.
Seiko tuna: Am I a joke to you?
Finally an ORIS!!! :D
this is an instrument, not a jewel.finishing is not the first purpose in this case.as a tool is one of the best, very robust!
It’s a beautiful watch, though it could take it up a notch in quality control.
Its what you get with Oris man, theyre like 1/4 rolex $$
I like also the Lip watch Nautic ski with internal bezel old original one or the new one but I don’t have it yet...
I like my Oris diver, but Oris has terrible customer service, at least in Canada. I would think twice about ever purchasing an Oris again.
I seen a watch once with a picture on the dial of two sheep in the process of mating…. I assume it was for the New Zealand market.
I have a Pro Diver but it's not from Oris.