Las Vegas now has COMPETING NBA bids for expansion team
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A multi-billion-dollar development on the Las Vegas Strip includes plans for a “technologically advanced entertainment and sports arena” and several ultra-luxury hotels and residences.
It’s a play to attract an NBA team to Las Vegas, and it’s not the only one. For the past year and a half, the buzz has been building around the NBA coming since LeBron James and Shaquille O’Neal each said they want a piece of a Las Vegas team. A $10 billion project to build a 20,000-seat arena in the south valley made headlines in June of 2023.
The newest project was announced Monday morning by real estate developer LVXP for the 27-acre site known by longtime Las Vegans as the original home of Wet’n’Wild - between the Fontainebleau Las Vegas and SAHARA Las Vegas. The project is described in a news release as “transformational” and would advance the development of the north end of the Strip. Plans call for features including a retail plaza, a state-of-the-art convention space and a “destination” casino.
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Chapters:
0:00 NBA expansion to Vegas almost guaranteed
1:12 LeBron James (and Shaq) want a part of Vegas
2:08 The old "All Net" project
5:09 The LVXP plan (on the same All Net site)
6:37 Oak View Group's existing NBA plans
8:13 Final Thoughts
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No one should get anything until Seattle gets the SuperSonics back!
I heard that….
i think that's 100 percent part of this tandem
pretty sure sonics and the vegas team are coming back in 25 or 26
I agree completely, but I'm fairly sure it's a forgone conclusion that Seattle will be one of the two expansion teams.
Seattle should get their team back before Vegas gets a team
They'll happen simultaneously. The NBA will go straight from 30 to 32.
They’ll probably both join at the same time
They'll add two. Won't have a 31 team league.
I've gotta say - props to Vegas. The whole region has become a boom town for sports over the last decade and they just keep expanding even more. Would love to see the A's settle there once they get the Tropicana site figured out and a NBA expansion team to Las Vegas would be such a smart move. I do agree with Brodie though that it seems to make much more sense to have the team play at the T-Mobile Arena.
A’s owner will refuse to spend on players and a stadium to make you pay for it and laugh at you for spending on overpriced tickets and food. The revenue sharing will go up since it’s a smaller market and keep a low budget franchise to make massive profits.
He proved at with the SJ Quakes, got a new stadium and kept the player payroll the lowest in the NHL.
nba & mlb = apples & oranges
They’re over saturating the Las Vegas market. They can’t support four professional teams. What is the metro population of Las Vegas? 2.4 million people? It’s not a top 20 media market.
I fully agree...and they want to keep the AAA Aviators too. I can't see this working out.
however Vegas has what? 40 million plus real visitors every year?
a lot of arenas & stadiums, that's for sure
They might as well take the Warriors too complete the sweep of the former Oakland teams
Dang
Lol. The Warriors just built a 1B arena in San Francisco. They won't go anywhere!!
Warriors were the first to leave 😂
They went to San Francisco
It needs to be an expansion team, because the Golden Knights are really the only team the people actually love. The Raiders really don't have many fans, as the stadium is filled up with opposing team fans. I don't think the A's will be popular at all.
It will be expansion for sure. Makes the mlb thing feel a lot different
Either way, Las Vegas will be a four-sport city alongside Los Angeles and New York when the NBA finally expands.
@@nathanmalik7056 And Chicago and Boston and Philadelphia and Dallas and Miami and San Francisco and Hopefully Seattle.
You mean new jersey 😂@nathanmalik7056
The A's will definitely not be popular like my Miami Marlins has become.
Seattle & Las Vegas most certainly will get expansion NBA teams. Sadly growing up as fan of the Knicks when they last won a title, I have lost a lot of interest in basketball. The devaluing of the big man and the emergence of a 3 point chuckfest league is a major turn off. NBA doesn’t care about older fans like me since I’m not in the demographic they care about. Personally I would prefer Seattle Super Sonics and the Kentucky Colonels be resurrected. 3 pt line needs to be pushed back and the court widened.
the Oak View Group headed by Tim Leiwike also spearheaded & did Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle. At first Seattle fans were really skeptical when their plan was to completely renovate what was Key Arena. But they sold their idea that they could finance themselves with bringing an NHL expansion team and down the road return the NBA to Seattle City officials. Once the deal was finalized the NHL came calling. So far everyone in Seattle loves Climate Pledge Arena. & very suitable for basketball too. We all know once the new NBA media deal gets done within the year NBA will announce expansion with Seattle & Las Vegas getting teams.
Yep and that’s why they’re probably the front runner here still, no matter what.
ugh, keep the NBA out of Seattle and Las Vegas. Especially the former since they tried to keep the NHL out of there when they redid Key Arena back in in the 90s.
@@geoff3103 keep living in the past man
@@S_Over_Street keep ignoring the present bro
@@geoff3103 get out of your feeling, son
Love you take on this specific genre of sports business, Brodie
Vegas going from having no professional franchises to having a team in all 4 major sports within a decade would be wild
Las Vegas has been the current Flavor of the month. The Golden Knights with their immediate success are on the top of that mountain. If the MLB and NBA do eventually arrive, will all of these teams has similar success? Or will fan interest be spread thin?
That would be cool conference and division realignment would be cool as well
Couldn't T-mobile Arena have both the Golden Knights (NHL), and this Vegas NBA team? It would save taxpayers money for building cost.
Never mind, you put the point out there. You'd think the WNBA Vehas team would've talked to the Golden Knights about sharing the venue. Same with this proposed NBA Vegas team
I'd love to see the Oklahoma City Thunder move back to Seattle. OKC has been a disaster since moving there!
I hope the VGK does everything they can to keep the NBA out of Vegas, because that league are locusts for the NHL.
@@frankisfunny2007OKC a disaster? You don’t know what you’re talking about
The NBA team is gonna want their own. If the league wants to move quickly with expansion, they could put the Vegas team there temporarily though until the new arena is done. I'll even safely say, I think the league does want to move quick and you'll likely see the Vegas NBA team play it's first game before the A's play their first in the Sin City.
What wrong with the T-Mobile Arena it’s actually NBA ready
It’s the Knights home.
between concerts and fighting events those make it busy enough with the VGK taking up 45 nights already. It be doable, but tricky.
@@loC2ol and? NBA and NHL teams share arenas in most cities
@@Utonian21 yeah but it depends on the circumstance. Bill Foley, who is the Knight owner specifically built it for an NHL team. Cities like Vancouver and Seattle have both previously shared stadiums. Vegas wasn’t traditionally a hockey market so he would’ve been affected much greater than other cities. Plus some owners don’t own the stadium outright. Knights owner Bill Foley does.
@@georgecoumbos2511 but you can easily play basketball games in an Arena built for hockey, since the dimensions of a basketball court are smaller than those of a hockey rink. The Delta Center has the exact opposite problem; the arena was built for Basketball, and while they can push seats back to accommodate a hockey rink, it leads to super awkward sightlines. That's why they have to renovate
The NBA needs to go back to Seattle and Vancouver
The NBA doesn’t need 2 teams in Canada let alone 1. It’s called the NATIONAL Basketball Association, not the INTERNATIONAL Basketball Association… Just my opinion
@@masp809There's some advantage of having the Raptors being Canada's team. It would be akin to all of California being one market.
@@vamoscruceros I get that but why stop there? Might as well put a team in every other country in the world. Or at least North America. But that obviously wouldn’t make sense
💯 that would be an awesome rivalry.
Vegas Scorpions
Seattle Supersonics
*** DUELING 😁
The privately-funded venue should get top priority here.
If they build this Arena it could possibly even lead to an Olympics
Steeplechase and cross-country track in 115 degree heat??...Please!... 😃
@bartphlegar8212 what is the temperature like in late September or October????
@@wtfa2910 like 60° average
FIFA moved their international soccer competition from June/ July to November for Qatar's stadiums...I think they would try to organize many outdoor events at night before moving the calendar though...
@@HHSGDFootballJPD a possibility
Brodie I think you spelled Dueling wrong at the beginning of the video
*If you're going to do 32 teams, even out the schedule to 76 games with 4 divisions in 2 conferences: 28 games against teams in your division, 16 games against teams in the other division of the same conference, and 32 games against teams in the other conference. And, I would have the two expansion teams play against each other in the first 2 games, if in different divisions or conferences, or 4 games, if in the same division of their inaugural seasons.*
Well brodie time for you to move here las vegas baby
We need Seattle
LeBron should have Steph Curry as part of his ownership group, Bob Myers & Steve Kerr run basketball operations, capital from private equity. Just need a savvy sports area developer (like a Leiwike) to help that side of equation.
Why is the NBA have more love than the A’s in Las Vegas ? It just feels like the A’s are not wanted .
Its the A's cheap ownership that turns fans away
Las Vegas Kings with Elvis as the mascot
I don't think they can do that unless they are trying to lure the Sacramento Kings to Vegas.
The Leiweke Oak View Group project is the best pitch out of three.
Deuling NBA Plans? Is that like Deuling Banjos?
After Seattle and Vegas. In the far future, San Jose and Vancouver would be perfect.
And on the east?
San Jose won't happen, given the Warriors more likely than not hold territorial rights for the entire SF Bay Area, including Santa Clara County.
@@ljpal18 None, too many teams already clogged there. NO and Memphis would go East.
@@henryca03 No they wouldn’t, it’s simply all part of the “franchise fee” to start one up and it’s not going to be cheap, at least 1.5-2 billion dollars to start one up.
Pittsburgh and Montreal would be better instead of Vancouver and San Jose.
I think that the NBA more than any other sport, put a few of their franchises in locations where they are the only game in town... Sacramento, Oklahoma City, and San Antonio? Did I miss one? It's surprising that the NBA is interested in going to cities where they will be competing with the NHL directly and for a period of time with the MLB and NFL. With the way ticket prices and everything else fans pay for increasing the way that they are, fans will likely have to choose which sport they want to support.
I did miss an NBA only city.... Portland. My bad.
@@exeter1985 Memphis. Both Orlando & SLC too but they also have MLS too if you’re counting that.
@@exeter1985 Portland has an MLS Team that is quite popular
What’s weird to me is that Oak View seemed all-in on Seattle with the Kraken /Climate Pledge Arena. I would think they would get the Sonics going and let someone else get Vegas done.
Climate Pledge is already a lock for the NBA. Seattle doesn't need a whole new venue for that.
Vancouver and Seattle should get expansion teams before Vegas.
New series coming soon from the a's to the nba
Any chance Brodie that the A's don't move to Vegas when it's all said and done?
Yes, there's absolutely a chance, and a good one at that (not that Brodie is interested in talking about it anymore and has given up fighting).
crazy that we're this far along, and i still wouldn't rule anything out
@@LouieKaboom don't be fooled
@@brodiebrazilIf you're talking about Vegas, I'm not: not saying it won't happen, but it is still far from guaranteed for multiple reasons, even though I've at least realized why MLB really wants a team there (the same reason the NBA wants one there, even though they're in zero position to expand). If you're talking about yourself, I certainly hope not, because your reporting was top notch.
Why not just use the arena where the Golden Knights play?
It sounds logical. Some of these owners don't like/don't want to share facilities. That means they would have to share profits and cost. The Raiders didn't have a good relationship with the A's while sharing the Coliseum, which is a part of the reason why they left Oakland for Vegas. Mr. Davis still doesn't like the A's organization to this day. #2 One sport is more popular than the other, which also comes into play. #3 Look at the Bears and White Sox situation in Chicago. The White Sox is requesting the State and the city of Chicago to pay 100% for a new stadium. The Bears is asking the city of Chicago for $2 billion on a $4 billion plus project in Chicago. Both of their current taxpayer funded facilities that they play in are not paid for. Which negates all of this "pie in the sky, delusional " revenue estimates that these organizations make. Which means the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois shouldn't even be having any conversations about spending taxpayer funds on stadiums and arenas. Let them go. Like Arizona let the Coyotes go because that NHL team wasn't generating the projected/expected revenue to justify the expenditures of valuable taxpayer funds. That these teams don't share profits with the public.
Hopefully expansion is announced soon, feels like a unkept secret thats “waiting to be revealed”. Personally would prefer Seattle and Louisville but would be shocked if it isn’t Seattle and Vegas.
If I recall, the ll net group was led by a guy with no experience developing property, and no gaming experience
If Vegas and Seattle are the next expansion teams for the NBA then who moves to the Eastern Conference?
No public money for NBA team. Same deal with no public money for NHL Golden Knights.
Disappointing Brodie. I thought you knew LeBron James is part of the Fenway Sports Group aka John Henry. Yeah, LeBron is part owner of the Boston Red Sox, Pittsburgh Penguins, and Liverpool FC.
I only quoted him on wanting to be part of a Vegas team.
@@brodiebrazil My point is, it would be the Fenway Sports Group, of which LeBron is apart of, bidding for an expansion NBA team. LeBron would be the face of said franchise, but it wouldn't be LeBron himself bidding for a team; it would be John Henry.
I don’t think anything has been established yet… who is doing the development… who would be owning the team.etc.
@@brodiebrazil It might be naivety on your part, but in Boston media, it's well-known Henry wants an NBA team in Vegas, LeBron will be the face of it; likely as a primary stakeholder of said team (money is fluid like that). It's a matter of if the new team shares a venue at TMobile or builds their own.
@maxpowr90 lol your disappointed in Brodie? He just quoted Lebron’s interest in owning an NBA team and his interest in being a part of the NBA Vegas team. Not sure why you’re overreacting because Brodie didn’t dive into LeBron’s ties to the Fenway Sports Group.
Vancouver and Seattle were both robbed of their NBA teams. Those cities should have 1st priority but expanding to 34 would be doo but I don’t see it going past 32 anytime soon. Hopefully wrong
3:49 not at all. We have tens of millions of visitors a year. We can handle another venue. In fact as someone who works in TV/Film. We need another one.
right? Thats the one x-factor that compensates for the low population. 40 million real visitors every year.
What happen to the days when you need an arena, you build an arena? Now you have to build a whole community. Las Vegas has one of the biggest "districts" in the world.... The Strip! Save Billions of dollars and just build an arena. It worked for T-Mobile.
right? Whats with this "district" BS all these developers keep spouting? Downtown areas are (and especially Vegas) are already a "district".
"Deuling"??? Come on dude.
Every league is getting its version of the Washington Generals now that betting is normalized.
The NHL should take a page from the NBA and try to keep them out of Las Vegas, just like how the NBA tries to screw over the NHL at every given opportunity.
How does the NBA screw over the NHL? Bettman just sold a franchise to NBA owners...
@@HHSGDFootballJPD They do it via arena construction. Far too many arenas are built along the lines of what you have in Phoenix, Brooklyn, SLC, San Francisco, Inglewood, Atlanta, Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, Indianapolis and others I'm forgetting. Which is to say constructed for basketball only instead of what was always traditionally basketball and NHL hockey. And if the NHL has nowhere to play they are SOL. See the Coyotes as proof of that. To be fair the NHL doesn't do anything to help their own cause - not sure why they don't given their still sad dependence on gate revenue in this day and age- otherwise they'd make a case to the city and county that approves said arenas that they should only approve it if its built for NHL hockey too, since hockey plays a lot of games and its fans spend a lot of money. Only benefits the community to get max use out of an arena, especially given how pro teams can relocate. I can guarantee you that the Coyotes would still be in Phoenix right now if there original arena had been designed for NHL hockey too. Oh, and Utah is a nothing market to the NBA. Players don't want to play there and the league doesn't want them to win. Its one of their "cannon fodder" cities for the big markets.
@@HHSGDFootballJPD via faulty arena construction. NHL can't play in an arena not designed for NHL hockey
@@geoff3103 They can; it's just not optimal. And I can't blame the NBA for Larry Miller wanting to build an intimate, modern arena for his team to play in WELL before there was a thought about a hockey team going to Utah.
Nor can I blame the NBA when Bruce Rattner bought the Nets and wanted to build an arena for an NBA team in between two hockey arenas. Just because the NHL doesn't find these buildings suitable until the overall situation is poor doesn't mean the NBA is trying to get in the way.
@@HHSGDFootballJPD wrong, it means exactly that. And no they can't play in those arenas. See the Coyotes, Islanders as proof of that. And yes, the NBA does it on purpose because they know long-term the NHL won't stay there. Which is good for the NBA since they are their competition in the winter time. I don't blame the NBA either, having a monopoly on a winter sport is good for business. Thats what you do, screw the other guy as much as you can. But they still do it. However, those arenas are approved by the city and county and use public money. And thats where the NHL should make their case to the politicians. It only benefits everyone for those arena to be used to the fullest of their capabilities, and that means they should be built for NHL hockey in mind too. Especially since hockey fans tend to have more money and play the same amount of games as basketball. In other words, dumping money at the arena and in the neighborhood. Benefits everyone. Hockey and basketball have been sharing arenas forever, no reason why they shouldn't other than cheapness and greediness from the NBA. and its been a new strategy of the NBA to do this to hockey.
Pretty sure Oak View is getting NBA
Seattle or nothing. I wonder if the ownership group of the kraken will own the new Seattle team whenever it is announced.
Grizz and Pelicans can finally go to the eastern conference
Vegas and Seattle. The easiest decision fora 2 team expansion in history
I don’t think Vegas can support four major leagues. One will be the odd man out, and I think that will be baseball. I don’t think the A’s are destined for Vegas. The transplant and transient population of Vegas, will make it difficult for MLB to see high attendance.
nobody watches the NBA
Exactly why the NBA is seeking a 'right to match' offer for it's TV package to provide oodles of more money...
In a bizarre trade.... John Fisher and Vivek Ranadive swap ownership of their teams... The A's stay in Sacramento under Ranadive... and Fisher & the Kings move to Vegas. 🤣
Seattle should get a team , to hell with Stank Vegas
Sell the A's!