Where and Why Did the First Cities and States Form? | Big History Project
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- Fueled by surplus crops, agriculture led to the formation of the world's first large-scale civilizations.
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1. are you sure the indus valley wasn't first
2. on the rulers business, it would be interesting to analyze the potential efficiency rates that could be upgraded now with new technologies like the internet and computers
It's very possible. The problem we have now in figuring out the locations and modae of the earliest cities is that the sea level was much lower going back into history so many of the first cities could have been lost beneath seas and oceans. Another thing worth mentioning about cities is that it appears to be somewhat of an evolutionary step human culture tends to take when societies figure out a way to expand their populations; almost always through farming or so we currently understand. Basically, it appears to be something people tend to do. River valleys are always great candidates for the development of cities because of the lush vegetation that makes agriculture and therefore higher populations possible.
Basically all ancient monuments were made before cities we don't need government to build pyramids Stonehenge etc this guy didn't mention in the video. The point of the city is safety company increased chance of compatibility with a partner and of course you can look after the sick a lot easier City's definitely have their upside the cities mentioned in this video would likely be as terrible to live in as in modern time. one of the oldest monument in the world Newgrange in Ireland built 2000 years before the first cities before swords before metalwork in general cities is not the start of civilisation it's just comfortable so we Claim it progress really it's just life on easy mode.
Indian civilisation be the first are being Debate objected for a decades... Many evidence proved Indian may be oldest one. But not the first one!
in terms of City even evidence proved that Central Asia and East Europe are more oldest than any Indian in term City in History
the oldest garden found in archeology is in Papua New Guinea. ..fact
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It all started in Turkey.
Gobeklitepe, , catalhuyuk and many more.
Gobekli tepe is dated to be at least 11.000 years old yes, but Gobekli tepe and some others where temple areas or the first form of cities. They were build before the domestication of the first grains and plants and so are not considered agrarian cities or societies. And it is hard to say if these were places where people lived all year long, being hunter gatherers.
@@whereisnow6162 are city from 15,000 years ago are mixed of hunter gatherers and agrarian. Mostly since they already domesticated around 30,000 years ago, any city still depends on gatherers goods for prosperity, but does not mean the great city system does not existed
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+Dominique Hipolito He is not inkorea its a green screen
+thegaming guy There is clearly shadows and sunlight going off his shirt.
I'd like to know why Papua New Guinea is specifically mentioned as an example of a non-agrarian civilization.
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Ir seems to me that 1000 years ago there were still many hunter/gatherer groups such as the aborigines of Australia, indians in the amazon, some north American tribes, tribes in Papua new Guinea, the eskimos and most artic people, various tribes in Africa such as the Bushmen and Pigmees and many others who simply fished and picked fruits. Their number must have been quite inferior to all the humans who lived by agrarian means but together they must still have been quite a few million.
How could Eskimos farm?
@@vnorm2907 Exactly, they didn't farm, they were nomadic hunters as recent as 100 years ago.
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what you going read has not yet been proved(no archeologist find) but its the only theory that is supported by mathematics, the proposal defends that humans originated in Asia, on the areas we know today as Indochina (Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, etc.) it was these pre historic tribes that populated the entire world, it is only it area due to it topology, geographic position in the globe, the environmental conditions of that time and since then and the imposition upon humans by their own existence it that area.
its accepted by all that humans, where they came, they came from the same place and through its existence it got isolated by several geographic groups of survival.
admitting that the initial human group either started in Africa, Middle east or even Asia. they had a lot of available land before the need to venture into the seas, the need to create a floating device so a human could go further on his search for survival, can only come from there abundance but not that enough that allow humans settle permanently in that area since, before agriculture all new available human resources could not coupe with the boom of human the resources created, thus the constant movement, when the human group got too big it started dividing into clans of leadership and territory since natural recourses are not always available and more limited on its share as the group goes bigger(in those days humans were also cannibals).
is within this scenario that groups living in large and medium sized islands start now in smaller groups venturing into deep waters to reach other islands that in many cases they could se at distance with their own eyes since they can remember.
a human noticed that tree branches even large trunks would float at sea and could withstand his weight(first surfers arrived lol) because it was difficult to carry more than one person and after all tree trunks do roll over at sea, another human came with the idea of putting together tree trunks, because of the roll over effect or just there were not enough thick three trunks that could carry him and by logic trying make same volume of tree, first actual raft was made and humans started using water channels to travel within the forest since this method had more visibility bat distance, was more secure from other predators and with time going further and further until starting reaching the coasts, its was only a matter of time for the same principle be used at sea due to pressure of human competition of recourses, soon it became known and popular that a group went and made back from different area with resources human never stopped navigating across the oceans, that was the first human expansion towards every continent of the world
having this said, if we do the maths on the average life expectancy and birth rate of humans we can reach a minimum number required of birth rates and life expectancies in order an activity be scientifically possible by human hands at that time, using knowledge and technology of that time.
based on this principle and comparing to ancient sites known today, by making the gratuitously assumption that human start on that specific archaeological and using the minimal number we can know how long it take for humans travel, procreate and build any other site, by doing this, we obtain a statistic map of potential areas where humans based on the minimal number could have travel made the most ancients cities we know today.
back then in ancient times and based on the amount of population areas like China, India and south America based on what they build, their number and the minimum number, its impossible for human civilization start in the middle east, in the poorest area of the world, the middle east never was a yet land area, it was never tropical, the middle east in its best, at its peak of atmospheric conditions had the clime of interior Iberia thus the biggest Muslim population in ancient times was not in the middle east but in the Iberic peninsula(that is how Muslim's heard about Yeshua and the bible, at the time of Yeshua life a Muslim(Arab[Muslim cult did not yet existed) could not care less what the jews were doing, who they worshiped and their messiah
a legend that fits in this narrative is the existence of Atlantis which is not in Azores but in Indochina, modeless on the form north and south America are connected today so it was what we know today as Indonesia and Thailand
the ice from the poles on the glacial era not only withhold water from the seas but also due to gravity created continental plate pressure at the equator "ballooning" out earth and make continental subduction(continent going underneath of another)more difficult to happen, when the planet warmed and earth partially loss its ice caps thickness it reduced the pressure it caused on subduction making continent sink faster and at the same time increasing the water level(ice water trapped on top of continents, ice already on top of water already and melted, doesn't crease the volume
It’s so annoying how these experts have got it so wrong
Even though they don’t do intentionally
This channel research is backwards saying suddenly there was massive change when since tribal systems hunter gather groups had individuals who had their place & jobs. That matrix just got more complex and centers of distribution & power changed as more resources & items & people were needed. Some human groups like vertebrates centralized everything others still kept to more spread out systems & power. Soldiers don't exist separate from a group only when human systems specifically creates their niche otherwise the whole system defends or separate sections. I'm too old and read new & old historical dev systems theories and this is touting an old mindset of defined set in stone human growth like Legos when It emerges like mold, like a fractal set.
Its not about a surplus in food production its about the type of crops being cultivated. Surplus in food did not really fuel state formation.
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Talking about rich and poor, how did they define richness at that time? I don't think there was any money. The resources were produced by the farmers. What resources did the elite class own that made them rich? Or was it just strength?
Tax paid in grain, crops and livestock which the chiefs could distribute to the army to wage war on neighbors who would come under new taxation and "protection". Eventually labor for public works like road construction and irrigation were accomplished by the state (fed by the working farmer). Nothing says wealth like a silo full of enough grain to make millions of loaves of bread. Comes in handy when your enemies have an army outside your city wall stopping the flow of grain from the countryside trying to starve you out.
No that's the Empire you think about, the Empires that all of my children were raised learning about. The Ethiopian civilizations, the Longbow Warriors the Nubian civilization, the power Brokers of Egyptian civilization these are the civilizations that gave civilization to the world we're not just speaking of agriculture we're speaking of mathematics, the geometry it took to build the pyramids engineering, medicine, astronomy, agriculture these are the people who gave civilization to the Greeks before they were even a society from the Nile River Valley to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers these were African people,this area was known as Northeast Africa all you have to do is research!!! SHALOM. I'm.Yahudah🕎
Nile valley civilization is the oldest civilization in the world.
You’re correct,but Which Nile are you talking about
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naaaahhhhh. this is mere opinion. who said this is true?
Mountains of scientific evidence.
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@@welcometohell3002 technically it is wrong, as the first cities were in turkey, namely Jericho being the oldest
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Thanks for boring the crap out of me with predictable politically motivated presuppositions based on cave scratching.Yawn!
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