I love Pac he is the goat for numerous reasons but I completely overstand and respect what Mob James is saying. Most people that were not raised in gang culture will never be able to see it from Mob James perspective
I remember listening to a 2pac interview where he says, “I’m not no dumb ass gangbanger”. “ I don’t bang for the colors or the land, I bang for the honor and the respect “. Real 2pac fans have heard this interview.
@@AK-my6dv Jesus is definitely more talked about we're just Tupac fans lol, look at all the people that go to church every week, shit I mean we're counting the years since Jesus has been dead
@@rust-0hspray156 Also Jesus lived 2000 years ago. I think in a 100 years nobody knows Tupac anymore. Just as we don't know any of the artists of 100 years ago.
I think this is the 1st time I've watched a Mob James interview and the interviewer asked about his feelings towards 2Pac. It's cool AOD asked that question. I was interested in how he would reply to that question
I know and he says he hasn't gangbang in a long time that's just what they do, I have a friend that's been out of prison for probably over 6 years and that fool always talks about prison still, it's annoying
I'm in my 60s with relatives in LA, you have to live there to understand. If you grow up in the Hood in LA, you better be a good fighter or a great athlete to avoid being a victim. I have 3 aunts and 1 uncle who raised their kids in that city and only 2 girls avoided being involved in gangs. I grew up in Texas, we didn't see gangs until the 90s and it still isn't widespread in my home city of over 1 million people. To be honest until the mid to late 80s the only gangs in the State were Motorcycle gangs that were mostly White ex-military, Skinheads and the Mexican Mafia.
he’s not glorifying he’s saying that what they did that was they way of life and thought process at that time why would u wanna be something you didn’t come from that is fraudulent and tryin too be down
He did it by way of trying to fit in though, which is James point. He didn’t have to claim it and get it tatted on him for them to accept him. They had love for him before that shit
There’s nothing this man can say or anyone else for that matter that’d change the way I view 2pac.gangs are the worst thing that ever happened to black people.so fxxk the MOB,fxxk the bloods and fxxk the crips.fxxk this nikka james while we at it.
Sad to say James is actually right. If suge didn’t encourage pac to be down with the mob & just had him focus on his career, everyone might’ve survived & thrived.
@@jasongensler8625 I think he means if he wasn’t moving like he was with the mobb feeling untouchable he wouldn’t of assaulted Orlando in Vegas, he might’ve stayed out of getting into tussles with gang a member, he didn’t know who Orlando was but they knew he was south side
@@samuelpetit6183 There are so many stories online about Tupac getting into fights with different people for different reasons. I think it’s naive to say he fought Orlando because of the guys he was around.
Not really because look just because you not from somewhere means u not supposed to go link meet up join network then niggas made pac feel like they was his friends he had to return the love as a friend should do
@@AlfaQgoode If a hood accepts you for you then you return the love. I get what Mob James is saying but he has to see the other side that at this time Pac is rolling with Suge and all his friends from the MOB hood that is showing him love so he only right to show them love back by bigg’n up their MOB piru set
@@AlfaQgoode my problem is your when we become friends.friends don’t just listen to your problems they help put them self in harms way for u..not just talk Thts what u do you put yourself in harms way for people u feel will do the same he was wrong but I understand why he did what he did
@@ky.g2733 there's a big difference between giving props and set claiming. I think James was opposed to the idea that Pac was a member. I never heard James complain about Pac showing love, only that Pac wasn't from the MOB. Imagine how mad a Gambino family member would be if Robert Deniro was claiming to be a made man from the Gambino family and got involved in Gambino business after only being around them for 4 months
It was more than showing love when members of the Mob & Death Row employees are all saying Pac was part of it. “We claim mob, M-O-B to be specific” is a direct quote from Pac. Plus, the nigga had it tatted on his arm along with a matching ring that all the other members had.
he don’t hate Tupac, Tupac was never apart of the MOB! that’s all he’s sayin. if Pac never tried to be apart of it, and stayed in his own lane, he’d still be alive.
This nigga said he saw with his own eyes Tupac spittin on fans, then next time speaking on the incident said he didn’t see it with his own eyes but he heard it, then the next time he said he shouldn’t have said that it was some bullshit that somebody told him. If that ain’t hate I don’t know what yall call hate.
I understand what he saying about pac but he can't be mad at pac for claiming something that the other mob gang members allowed so he gotta be mad at the gang for allowing it
@@fyreleomh1896 yes and no ..Pac really was just being loyal, I believe if he lived long enough Mob James would have seen wasn't no need to be mad at Pac for claiming mob
James been consistent with his issue, he always says 2pac had no business banging the hood that James was born & raised in, 2Pac from the East… started claimin a hood he was never a part of, & it got him killed, James ain’t hatin he’s speaking facts
2Pac had no business in hood politics.. I blame Suge Knight cause Suge Knight should have kept his Artists out the streets while keeping his soldiers as protection instead of having them in the streets as gangsters.. Suge Knight would have been a billionaire Today and maybe 2Pac would be a live if Suge Knight and 2Pac though like Businessmen.. My Problem wit Rappers is that they still stay involved in hood politics when they don't have to..
If Mobb James hadn't never knew Tupac or Suge would anyone be interviewing him? No!!!! He's making money off of talking bad about people that is putting money in his pocket. That's called bitting the hand that feeds you.
You know that after Suge came back to Compton after playing football it was Mob James who he seen and then had the hood behind him to extort people for cash and start Death Row right? You could argue that without Mob James Death Row may not have got off the ground. Who knows how things would happened but don't discredit one of the blocks that created this history.
@@waxelfoley6624 it would've started with or without James you kinda stretching the truth.thats not to say he didnt contribute tho.he just needs to be more humble.& appreciate he even met Suge & Pac.anything else just looks bitter
It's funny how Pac is not here and all these folks got slick ish to say now. I hate Pac surrounded himself with these snakes but what can you do. To the young folks don't let these old ninjas lead you astray. They'll be talking just like this when you gone
@@jarvisjones9529 I remember when Pac was alive everybody was on hush mouth. Lotta tough talk and disrespect 20 yrs later. Cowardly to talk down on a dead man
@@GP-bs3mn son that Pac DeathRow era was less than a whole year. So let's not act like Pac was on some 10 year reign in hip hop...talking mad shit & calling ppl out.
@@maximbelmont4641 let's also not act like his impact wasn't felt the most of all the Death Row artists including Snake Dogg. It's ok if he's not your thing, but all these people talking like they wasn't riding the coattails of Pacs success is laughable.
I think James was salty about the gang embracing Tupac when he first started doing interviews. But I think he's grown to understand why people felt the way we do about him. He always keeps it respectful now days when talking about him.
MOB James is right. 2pac was far from perfect unlike what his fans want to believe. He brought on a lot of that stuff himself. MOB James wasn't hating on Pac just stating facts.
@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 pac wasn't paying shit ,u mean Suge was probably paying the mob for protection but not pac ,he was just accepted by real street guys , and without putting in work they took him in as mob but I'm pretty sure that night in Vegas was his initiation and if so ,I say give that man his stripes and respect it , he took off on Orlando without hesitation ,it cost him his life afterwards but he did it for the mob so in my opinion pac is mob piru and Trevon Lane I'm sure feels the exact same way
@@satitlikeitis he may not be a deity but hes done more in a short 25 years for ppl than any man worrying about what hood 2pac from or isn't from.....
@@3rdGenerationCancer he gave to many charities and helped the homeless since he was once homeless he opened up his own house to the homeless literally … you can google it and youtube it… what benefit do y’all get hating on a dead man? I forget… trolls say anything
He always had a point, but the other stuff he said and assumed showed bitterness, like Pac supposedly spitting on fans which I think he said he never actually saw himself.
@@antonioboss298 Pac was a celebrity gangbanger. Face it. Doesn’t tarnish his legacy. & everybody dnt gotta respect the way he moved. Especially not someone who lived it.
@@concretechannel7620 Pac was NEVER a gangbanger. He didn’t get put on to any set. He was just loyal to the guys he hung around. He was loyal to Suge (a blood) and hung around Big Syke (a crip). He never claimed a set. He’s not like Chris Brown or lil Wayne who mysteriously became bloods in their 20’s.
@@antonioboss298 the spitting on fans allegation also came from a former bass player who worked with DR artists in 95 and 96. He played bass at a performance Tupac did on the Late Show I think it was “I Ain’t Mad at cha”. The interview was on JMIX a few years ago. Can’t recall his name though.
@@selfmade8884 You're right that he wasn't from a set but you're wrong that he didn't claim a set. "Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB, so believe me we enemies" Makaveli
Without a dime to show? You don't know that for sure. You can say he's been cashing in now with all the interviews he's doing now on CZcams and has been part of podcasts.
@@fresh9358 listen... How old is this man? How much of his life has he dedicated to crime? Now do a cost/benefit analysis...what's a podcast with charlamgne really worth? Come on!
@@jamalrobinson2159 Ok he dedicated a good chunk of his life to crime suffered consequences and losses. Filled with regret. Making sure he’s setting a better example for his children and grandchildren and does a podcast on charlamanges network. Did he lost a lot? Yes. Is there a chance for redemption? Yes. A podcast being on charlamagnes network and having a deal with his network isn’t a bad thing
There is a whole industry in deifying Tupac. Because he is dead, people can make Tupac anything they want to. MOB is being honest. Many of you only know Tupac from the hundreds of documentaries and 3rd hand stories. Tupac was a very talented, passionate, young man who paid for his rash decisions with his life.
@@msfergie5851 There isn’t an industry in slamming Tupac! His legacy in the mainstream is always protected..everything from telling people he knew he had signed with devil when it came to Suge, to being murdered for wanting to leave! He’s also been attributed to influencing the 1992 Watts Peace treaty! None of which is true. It’s not about slamming him, but being honest and putting certain parts of his life into the correct context.
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 I met a really old OG Crip from the 92 truce and he had nothing but love for Pac. so why you hating? Suge didn't kill Pac or put a hit on Pac. Suge paid the opps 60k after the fact. you buttering up your hate
This is a typical gang member mentality and Pac was more about that. They will never understand Tupac. Pac was a hope for your gang members or your hood. Understand Tupac thats what i i have to say about it.
The typical gang mentality is what got Pac killed. He was way bigger than that but got caught up in a gang war that he aint had no business involving himself in.
I think in this part of the interview he proved Charleston white right for the shit you trying to denounce you still claim it you had to catch yourself and say I am I was hey how you going to be mad at Tupac when Suge Knight was doing the same thing but he was cutting a check
I was thinking the same thing. This old man is still holding a grudge against basically a child. Tupac was 25 when he died. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't still be talking about MOB.
@@darrickhill1602 He answered a question. Other people are bringing it up. How else can you answer a question about history without talking about history? If you talk about next week, I doubt you'll hear him talk about the MOB set.
So where is the lie, I been saying that, Tupac didn't grow up in Compton he's was more of an activist and things changed as he got older or should I say got in the industry, he was a great man excellent rapper but when you speak the truth you're a hater
@@alexdesrouleaux2387 2:26 Jame said, i didn't want 2Pac to be a MOB, but all the homies was down with Pac. Jame couldn't tell them what to do but Pac could. Jealousy produce hate.
@@wex9210 That's because he was able to see thru Pac. Pac really was built for that LA gang lifestyle. He came from a revolutionary family. Not a gang family.
as a pac fan and a man with sense; you guys cant kill james for saying something that he seen himself NOBODY IN THE COMMENTS WAS AROUND DEATH ROW so how can we say otherwise ?
I disagree with that cause out of James mouth he said that Buntry put Pac on Mob Piru and he didn’t like that. And cause Pac was closer to Buntry than James that’s why he still has animosity.
It's like saying you can't claim to be a Democrat if you don't hold a political office. Pac was putting the MOB in the spotlight and representing as much as he could. He didn't have to kill to prove it. He was a celeb. But he had nothing but love for them. He once said the only color I represent is GREEN and that's money.
Did the italians/la Cosa Nostra? Did any of our presidents? Do the police? Why is your focus that of ridicule? And what difference would renouncing it make? You'd just say "aww he didn't mean it" 🙄
@@powerstationw How come errtime the topic of our behavior come up, people distract the convo by bringing other groups in!!!!!! We ain’t talm bout none of them. We talm bout OG’s that’s in public talm bout what they use to do, without having remorse for innocent kids, women and family affected by their actions. Stick to that part and stop tryna be like the real mob or cartels!!!!
@@jaygee8969 lmao. i actually agree with that last part... but my point is, they only do this when it regards black people. everyone else gets a pass for killing their own. meanwhile, they ignore conditions of the black community (and police leaving crates of guns in the hood) when condemning us for killing our own. its trickier than just some surface argument.
@@powerstationw If you agree with the last part then why not leave it there. You are mixing what other people have to say about blacks versus what I said about the so-called OG’s. My point is that these dudes are on public platforms pretty much glorifying the genocide that they participated in and this has nothing to do with crates of guns being left for them to do it with.
No bad words nikka said Tupac was spitting on fans at the mall Vlad asked him was he there clown said no that's what they was saying but if not asked was he there you would have thought this nikka was there
The cap is crazy!! Now he saying he only had a disliking of Pac because of the mob s*** but he was blatantly lying on Pac saying he spit on fans and was rude to everyone 😂 foh
What are you talking about ? James is talking about the mob . Not what 2 pac went through in his personal life … he is talking strictly about mob piru …
He was an artist on death row surrounded by bloods no matter what he was going to be involved in blood business. Plus the South side crips is going around taking death row chains and he's on death row.
@@antonioboss298 yeah but he was an artist bro who was infatuated with the gang shit come on now he was loyal but for what why couldn’t they handle it why did he have to go over there for what they also said how excited he was after the fight was over when he got back to the hotel he was infatuated with that shit but he wasn’t ready for the kick back
Yeah, right. The head of my label is a Blood who hires gangstars as bodyguards but I will do my best to avoid them even though they hang around the studio where I make my music ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
@@utterspace i’m not suggesting avoiding them he was cool with them so why would he do that I’m not saying be a punk I’m saying mind your fucking business he was not a blood do you guys understand that he was being a follower I know it hurts to see these words but it is the truth the gang life was so fascinating to him
@@DjOuttasite1210 You expect someone who grew up with thugs cos he had to fend on his own from a very young age and made a gangstar album at 19, got shot nearly killed, had to walk around with a gun to protect himself not to be fascinated by the thug life? Wutang lived that life but no one says anything about them cos none of them got killed. Jam Master Jay didn't live that life and he got killed. Anyone can get killed. Dolph just got killed minding his business. I don't see anyone calling him out. pac was nothing but unlucky and was even ready to branch out on his own.. anyone with his kind of rep would have done what he did that day at the MGM.
It’s either you believe Tupac was a GOD or your a hater!!! I appreciate James telling his story and opinion on questions asked. If anything the problem is Vlad and Art asking dumb Pac questions.
I understand MJ stand and issue with Pac. I don't care who you are, If you don't or didn't put in the work, get the fuccc on. Just cause you got a lil money don't make you a G
He def was salty/bitter towards pac when he first came out. Sometimes it’s more about the tone and what you chose to say or not say than then actual words. Literally a bunch of people all over the Internet (including at least one members of the Outlawz) all felt that way so there’s probably something to it. In addition didn’t nuttso say that MOB or mobbin was a bay term Nd pac never joined the bloods? A lot of people speculate that pac clicked up but I’ve never heard it confirmed from anyone with first hand knowledge. Money Over Bitches
@@mrcassantos Pac had MOB tatted on him. He was clearly claiming Bloods. I'm a Pac Stan frfr. But I understand Mob James view. And if Pac would've listened he would be here today. I'm trying to be part of the solution to my people and not the problem. Peace to you King 👑 and R.I.P. Pac. I'm out
@@michaelgant584 how is you hating on Pac part of the solution? Pac almost died multiple occasions so you can't really say if he listened to Mob James everything woulda been fine
Not one person in the entire world would care about "Arrest of Development" James and his neighborhood if it wasn't for Tupac and Suge. He would have zero relevance. I'm trying to understand how can you take great pride in representing something you didn't own? He was probably renting his parcel of land all those years. He could have taken all that energy and figured out a way to purchase 30 to 50% of the homes in his hood built a portfolio and showed his kids and grandchildren how to repeat the process. Instead, he takes great pride in doing harm in the past to his own people. This is a mental defect in our community. If James was in another ETHIC group(J, W, A, I) they would look at him like scum. Let me get this right secretly despise the guy who had the potential to help change the trajectory of blk people and then feel proud about a very low IQ thought process(gang-banging) that puts blk people against each other and benefits nobody blk ultimately. Hint: you lost your brother Buntry and countless other brothers are lost. The neighborhood you were in wasn't yours look at the big picture. We have to do better!!!
2Pac is M.O.B. because Suge & the other homies made him M.O.B. 2Pac may not have did dirt in the hood like James is saying but at the same time he was bigger than that. He was educated. Rapper, Actor, Black Panther, Thug. 2Pac been in jail 2Pac been shot 2Pac shot 2 cops who were harassing a man. James please let it go, he M.O.B. He loved you all including Buntry.
Thats not how the politics go. If you aint grew up in it you aint got no business repping it. Cant be joining no gang at the age of 25. Pac was so much bigger than that. Mob James is 100% right.
Nah bro Mob James is 100% on point.. if you don't put in work like that in the hood, it ain't gaining the same respect. That's not how LA gangbangin goes. Doesn't matter if he's "bigger" than anything. The hood is the hood. Y'all weirdo's outside of LA that don't understand the culture fr need to stop it. You got us way too f'd up there
All respect to Mob James... but we wouldn't be watching none of Mob James interviews if it wasn't for Pac. RIP to the late Great. If you don't like em, stand on your square and say it
Well, technically mob james was in deathrow before Pac and knew Suge before Deathrow even formed. Wasnt it muscle like Mob james that gave Suge the ability to form deathrow in the first place? Deathrow was hot before Pac was in it. You might be able to say without Mob James muscle deathrow may have not had as strong a start and pac would have stayed in jail. That a tough comment in my opinion.
@@pahdy93 respectfully disagree. The Mob Piru was death row muscle not just Mob James. If he wasn't doing it, somebody else would. Pac on the other hand is the most talked about subject in his interviews and anybody else's who was around death row. Pac is the cash cow even in death.
Typical Bitter OG that's all. I don't think he's a Pac Hater though but he's definitely one of them OGs who thought the hood was stay frozen in time like he wanted it to be... He makes his little valid points but while he didn't say anything foul about Pac he sure AF didn't say anything good.
Bitter OG? Any real nigga will feel the same way. Been to prison, getting packed out in juvenile hall and all the shit. Some niggaz wear it as a badge of honour and if somebody wants to claim a hood without knowing that particular hoods struggle it will be frowned upon. Just like niggaz claiming 60's for the fame and never bust a grape for the hood. You never hear anything like this said about Nipsey because he came from the soil and did his little missions. Soulja Boy and Chris Brown are honorary Fruit Town Pirus cuz they slid somebody a bag. That's the shit Mob James don't like.
@@cipriandobrea7369 yeah and like I said before he's a bitter broke ass OG with no bag. Why you think he's doing all the interviews about the same shit for???? Also let's make one thing clear here about the hood since your all such super Gangsters. How TF you explain all these so called gang members who got put on and did their missions then turned PC or informant or smoked their own homeboys outta jealousy. Or the ones that got put on and turned smokers and did 0 for their hoods?????? Your telling me that's honorable??? Look at the situation from both sides. I'm not rooting for the ones buying the status of a gangbanger. I understand the culture but these days we all know gang banging done shit but get people smoked or life. Or Stuck on drugs.
The algorithm is something else. I get recommended a bunch of similar videos and so many platforms are talking about Pac. Anyway, a video with Ice T came up on him talking about Pac. He shares the same thoughts as Mob James here.
Shock G and MC Eiht have said the same too. I think any level headed person who followed Pac's career can see that him trying to be something he wasn't caused his demise.
I'm sure we can pull all they background from a teen to mid twenties and shine a light on what they did and it won't be peaches and cream either. I couldn't see it the other way around with Pac speaking personal opinion on what they did in life. It don't make alot of sense. Just a lot of judgement and gossip.
Pac’s a human and we all make mistakes, no doubt in my mind. The problem with Mob James is that after Pac died, Death Row’s demise was around the corner. This demise lead to Buntry’s death (ppl at DR being unsatisfied with how they’re paid etc.). So basically, Pac’s death is the cause for all the sh*t that happened after. That’s why Mob James sort of blames Pac for his own brothers death. I wasn’t around M.O.B., Death Row, Pac or anybody but that’s my take on it. U can criticize everyone at all times, but I feel like Mob James is extra salty when talking about Pac.
@@darrickhill1602 known to who, you ?.you not even relevant in his world, people ask and pay him to tell his story not the other was round.. dont get it twisted.. Maybe you jealous coz he was closer to your idol than you ever was.
He literally says verbatim it’s the homies fault for allowing shit and you still gonna say he’s blaming Pac. Bro been said countless times the whole reason he stopped fucking with Suge and the bloods in DR was bc of “homies killing homies”. He never liked it and stepped away and that was right before Pac was locked in with DR. This is the same time that Suge is getting big and more money via bullying people and the folks he used for muscle wanted their pay. So no, James never blamed Pac for anything. If he’s ever blamed anyone for shit, he’s pointed fingers at Suge. The bloods in DR was already on BS when Pac got there. The music was just popping so nobody was paying attention as much as they should’ve been
2pac still put in enough work in his own life to be piru was it in Compton no but he’s still done it and not just in one place , it was around the country that’s why the mob loved him he was a real nigga.
Mob James says he met Pac only ONCE & yet that is the main reason why anyone is interviewing him I’m not sure if he’s ever taken a step back to recognize that.
I don’t remember Tupac ever claiming mob piru. As for Tupac claiming MOB, he’s been claiming that since he got into the rap game coming out of the Bay Area.
2:19 Mob James says he doesn't have a reason to dislike Pac but he has a issue with Pac? He just Mad cause Pac represented his hood better then he ever did or will. Everybody back then liked 2Pac the Rapper/Actor. But had issues with Tupac Shakur the man! #LiveAndDieinLA
@@derrickwilliams918 I am a pac fan, a serious pac fan but we can’t be blind to the fact that pac died being on some street shit. When he is 2PAC! He had no business getting involved, mob James is just talking the truth but this generation call the truth hating. I’m too old for this shit lol
I didn't want to believe it either but everyone said him and Treyvon got to be really close before he died so it happened within his last 6 months of living
Mob James has a point. But I also feel Tupac was just a rider like he said. One thing about being a ride or die, you have to accept that an early death might be your fate.
For all of youTupac "Stans" , Pac was not perfect he said and did lots of bad things before he died. If someone pointing out the bad things Tupac did and said, doesn't mean they hate him.
It don’t but once someone just focus on mentioning his mistakes and all the bad he’s done it makes them look like a hater 95% of the time mob james has something negative to say when he gets asked about pac
@@sayblood8238 But we don't know what Mob James says 95% of the time because we don't hear 100% of what he says. We know what gets recorded, edited, and put up for clicks. Besides, what he's saying here is real. Tupac, in that instance, was playing with some sh!t he had no business playing with. And if you know what it is, you know he's right.
@@anonymouslakernerd7214 Pac was nothing but a subject of ENVY. He won't be the first rapper to claim gangstar. How many drive by was Snoop involved in that makes him Crip "certified". Pac was just too LARGE and made them feel small cos of all the love he got. That's just the truth. He was a MAN. All I know is if you pull a gun on Pac he is definitely pulling one on you if he is fast enough and will probably shoot first. Not every gangstar has to be a MURDERER.
He has said some bad things about Tupac on Vlad, he should just admit that. His reasons for not liking him are still the same so I don't understand why he's trying to deny that part but he still says he don't care what nobody says.
He’s clearly mad Pac ran with the others and not him…when asked about it he never said huh? What u talking about? When? Cuz he already knew he was a hater
@@moorepoint6619 Suge and pac scared of drunk jealous rat Mob james that was more quiet than a church mouse until Suge got sentenced to 28 years in prison? Foh
@@club6626 go listen to interview … all artist on death row said the same thing about James . They were all scared of him . Go listen to other comment about him
I watched many of his video or interviews. No Mob James never talked bad about 2Pac he did keep everything 100 -And not scared (Mob James) about telling the truth about what went on in his time.
@@jacobbrock7192 u a sucka for speaking on the dead. And bet he beat YO ass had he still been alive. He was rolling wit sure and dem they was mob so he got blessed in. Foolish yes but he was 25. How old is you speaking on the dead like yo mammy aint raise u right 🤔
People need to stop this silly accusation about Pac saying he lived that life. He didn't need to belong. He was his own man. He walked around with guns. If you popped at him.he would pop back without backing down. He held his ground when he had to. Coming out of jail put a lot of restrictions on him because he was on probation and also in the public eye but a lot of people don't talk about that.
@@corneilmadison8971 This doesn't even make sense in any ramification. What does a follower mean? Them "thugs" were hired to be his "bodyguards"...follower my ass😂
@@RG-zw5wc I mean he wasn't a follower but loyal the thing is eventually it would have cost him his life because he down with whoever he rode with wich means could have been the mob, Jamaicans anybody he went up against just for being loyal still would cost him his life and get out your feelings
Foul is an Ambiguous term and yes Mr Mob you have said foul things about Pac. However you haven’t stopped taking checks on behalf of his name. Not so solid or respectfed🤦🤷♂️
@@fredrey2242 @@fredrey2242 hahahaha look at the confused one. I bet you can catch your girls with another mans inside her and she says "It wasn't me" and you believe her. Hahahaha
Everyone here tunes into this channel to hear about the life of one of the greatest musicians of all time. As much we all love Pac, understand that he was only HUMAN. He made mistakes too. What’s great about this channel is that everyone has their own unique story of Pac. Thats shows the impact he had during his time on this earth. All we can do is take it for what it is, and decide who and what we want to believe.
This is one hell of an interview is consistent with what he's saying I see no shade or hate here he said what he said and I can respect everything this man just said ‼️
I think the lame part about this point of view is it’s coming from 50..60 year olds NOW speaking on a 25 year old 2pac and the choices he made THEN.. good bad or indifferent. Let’s go back and see what they were doing at 25.
He’s absolutely right. He looks at it like I’ve got homies that are dead in the name of MOB. He’s got homies doing life in prison in the name of MOB. And these rappers want to just come along and flash a bit of money and start claiming. For those old timers it doesn’t work like that.
@@ForzaBlucerchiati yes he did M. O. B. That was the code just too say money over bitches. Pac was a revolutionary and conscious black uplifting how can you be banging you from the bay. People love him especially the Bay Area they didn't want him involved to la politics
You giving these people that had nothing to do with the success of Tupac on death row a platform.......... That's just like asking shaq how was those two championships that Kobe won by himself
He was with Suge strong arming people making them sign their music rights over to Suge when deathrow had nothing. So he had a lot to do with helping them get on the map in the beginning.
@@westburns24 Not true, He was the one holding a gun on security at the lawyers office while Suge was there getting Dre and them contract. That's all that was going on at first strong arming and stealing equipment and contracts. Harry hadn't even splashed Suge with cash yet.
Most of the people commenting don't really understand LA gang culture. They don't understand the history of it, the backstory of The Black Panthers and The Us movements, Operation CoIntelPro, and the politics of gangs in Southern California. Every city has gangs. I am born and raised in Brooklyn, NY, and even we had gangs growing up in the 80s and 90s, and way before. I grew up in a rough, violent, hostile environment. But LA and Chicago are different. They are gang cities. It's sewn into every aspect of society there. These hoods eat, sleep and breathe gangs. A lot of the time they don't even jump people in or "make" people put in work. They just either court people onto a set or people interweave their entire lives into a set that it's just accepted that a person is from a gang, and the work that person puts in is a given. I think what a lot of people are not understanding is that Mob James' underlying criticism is that after a certain age or time period or situation, there is no "I'm claiming MOB." Tupac wasn't from Mob Piru hood, and he didn't really do anything to actually truly claim Mob. It doesn't matter if he hung out with Suge and other Pirus. It doesn't matter if he befriended a lot of bloods. He was not from that life, at all. If you don't understand LA gang culture, and especially if you are one of the many people deifying Tupac, then you think that anyone who says anything about that is not positive about Tupac is hating on him without really listening to what people like Mob James are saying. And to be clear, he is not the only LA gang member to say what he is saying. I'm only commenting because I understand LA gang culture "enough" to really listen to what some of these former gang members are saying (I read books on it and have watched dozens and dozens of documentaries and interviews on it). I don't even think I have the ability to explain to people who are opposed to Tupac criticism what this actually means. Until you really sit down and read or watch or understand the politics and history and lifestyle of LA gang culture, then you probably won't really understand any of this fully. And whether people want to admit it or not, so many people (especially people in my generation) deify Tupac. He can do no wrong in a lot of people's eyes. Let's be honest here. He was a revolutionary person; highly intelligent, passionate about uplifting his communities and people, and one of the most talented people of the 20th century. But his shift to involving himself in Death Row was a BIG mistake. He is treated like the Hip Hop Jesus, but whether you want to accept it or not he made some very serious mistakes when he linked up with Suge and Death Row. And until people are willing to accept that, they will just see posts like mine or interviews like Mob James as an attack on Pac. I know this comment will get a lot of hate, but truth is truth. Even Tupac himself knew he should have distanced himself from Suge, and started to try to right some of his wrongs in the last times of his life. Take the emotion out of how you feel about Pac and really just listen to what people like James are saying. I highly suggest watching "Bastards of the Party" (link: czcams.com/video/fS0qxNsWgx8/video.html). It's one of the better documentaries that touches on this lifestyle, and sheds light on how deep rooted LA gang culture is. When you understand that, you understand why Tupac has no business claiming Mob, why some of the Mob Pirus had no business letting Pac claim Mob, and why Pac should have completely steered clear of the chain incident in Vegas. If he did, he would still be alive.
Pac was only in his 20's when he died, people forget that. We were all dumb and stupid in our 20's
Hell I was even fucking married in my 20's
Speak for yourself man.
I love Pac he is the goat for numerous reasons but I completely overstand and respect what Mob James is saying. Most people that were not raised in gang culture will never be able to see it from Mob James perspective
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I remember listening to a 2pac interview where he says, “I’m not no dumb ass gangbanger”. “ I don’t bang for the colors or the land, I bang for the honor and the respect “.
Real 2pac fans have heard this interview.
A lot of people got famous or known because of 2pac and they can’t understand that
That's it bruv 💯. If pac lived to this day who would of heard of any of these cunts.
Pac has to be the most talked about person that isn't here!
Even more then Jesus :P ?
@@sjn6953 I hear more about Tupac than Jesus, maybe if Jesus went platinum he would be talked about more often
@@AK-my6dv 🤣🤣🤣
@@AK-my6dv Jesus is definitely more talked about we're just Tupac fans lol, look at all the people that go to church every week, shit I mean we're counting the years since Jesus has been dead
@@rust-0hspray156 Also Jesus lived 2000 years ago. I think in a 100 years nobody knows Tupac anymore. Just as we don't know any of the artists of 100 years ago.
I think this is the 1st time I've watched a Mob James interview and the interviewer asked about his feelings towards 2Pac. It's cool AOD asked that question. I was interested in how he would reply to that question
He didn't like tupac he said that on gangster chronicles. He called him a hot head
He’s been asked that plenty of times, you must have missed it.
This chump didn't even know pac like that.
@@shanicehagert damn
@Jason Allen When he said it he did think that he would of become a household name back then.
I respect what James is saying. I just wish he would stop glorifying gang life. Killing, fighting, going to jail or deth" ain't where it's at"
I know and he says he hasn't gangbang in a long time that's just what they do,
I have a friend that's been out of prison for probably over 6 years and that fool always talks about prison still, it's annoying
I'm in my 60s with relatives in LA, you have to live there to understand. If you grow up in the Hood in LA, you better be a good fighter or a great athlete to avoid being a victim. I have 3 aunts and 1 uncle who raised their kids in that city and only 2 girls avoided being involved in gangs. I grew up in Texas, we didn't see gangs until the 90s and it still isn't widespread in my home city of over 1 million people. To be honest until the mid to late 80s the only gangs in the State were Motorcycle gangs that were mostly White ex-military, Skinheads and the Mexican Mafia.
he’s not glorifying he’s saying that what they did that was they way of life and thought process at that time why would u wanna be something you didn’t come from that is fraudulent and tryin too be down
@@slayy51621 I here ya. Preciate the info.
I’m not getting that he is glorifying this lifestyle. He just telling how he use to be. He has grown from it and realize that isn’t how you live life.
That fact that you had the balls to ask him that is commendable lol
Right!
10 toes down, gotta respect it
LOL mob james not terrifying at all
Smoking Tupac pack
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Pac wasn’t trying to be down with the Mob he wanted the Mob to be down with him and most of them were, they had love for him
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He did it by way of trying to fit in though, which is James point. He didn’t have to claim it and get it tatted on him for them to accept him. They had love for him before that shit
Facts
You can’t be serious 🤣🤣🤣
Pac did shit that James could never do
This guy is salty, I heard him saying his angry at his nephews for getting Tupac tattoos.
It's more bout his brother getting killed...
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 Tupac had nothing to do with his brother getting killed
Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail
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He is not salty … he was simply questioning the nephew action . Which I can understand,
I stand with PAC Period!!
Everybody else in the gang was ok with Pac being a member so that means gangsters respected him
@@trapmuzik6708 no they just want to be close to celebrity that's all that was..
There’s nothing this man can say or anyone else for that matter that’d change the way I view 2pac.gangs are the worst thing that ever happened to black people.so fxxk the MOB,fxxk the bloods and fxxk the crips.fxxk this nikka james while we at it.
You can stand all you want Pac was NEVER a gang banger!
@@trapmuzik6708 That's not at all what that means. And how do you know what everybody else in the gang was okay with? You met them?
Sad to say James is actually right. If suge didn’t encourage pac to be down with the mob & just had him focus on his career, everyone might’ve survived & thrived.
Facts 100%
@@christopherbeckford3102 it’s not facts. Remember keefe d said we was going for Tupac one way of the other because of puffy.
@@jasongensler8625 naw they would've went after pac still,even if someone else from deathrow socked orlando
@@jasongensler8625 I think he means if he wasn’t moving like he was with the mobb feeling untouchable he wouldn’t of assaulted Orlando in Vegas, he might’ve stayed out of getting into tussles with gang a member, he didn’t know who Orlando was but they knew he was south side
@@samuelpetit6183 There are so many stories online about Tupac getting into fights with different people for different reasons. I think it’s naive to say he fought Orlando because of the guys he was around.
Gotta respect him for his gripe towards the situation with Pac. And I'm a diehard Pac fan
Not really because look just because you not from somewhere means u not supposed to go link meet up join network then niggas made pac feel like they was his friends he had to return the love as a friend should do
@@failureface1837 what do you mean by he had to return love?
@@AlfaQgoode If a hood accepts you for you then you return the love. I get what Mob James is saying but he has to see the other side that at this time Pac is rolling with Suge and all his friends from the MOB hood that is showing him love so he only right to show them love back by bigg’n up their MOB piru set
@@AlfaQgoode my problem is your when we become friends.friends don’t just listen to your problems they help put them self in harms way for u..not just talk Thts what u do you put yourself in harms way for people u feel will do the same he was wrong but I understand why he did what he did
@@ky.g2733 there's a big difference between giving props and set claiming. I think James was opposed to the idea that Pac was a member. I never heard James complain about Pac showing love, only that Pac wasn't from the MOB. Imagine how mad a Gambino family member would be if Robert Deniro was claiming to be a made man from the Gambino family and got involved in Gambino business after only being around them for 4 months
Mob James: imma a MF Blo ,I mean use to be a blood.
Charleston White: I see you still with it!
My first thoughts 😂 😂
He said it in Vlad it's in him,not on him so he can turn it on whenever he wants.
Mob James need to understand Tupac was showing love to the mob that’s all he wasn’t no blood or crip
Mobb James never had a conversation with Tupac in his Whole life. Hes a bitter drunk living in Vegas
It was more than showing love when members of the Mob & Death Row employees are all saying Pac was part of it. “We claim mob, M-O-B to be specific” is a direct quote from Pac. Plus, the nigga had it tatted on his arm along with a matching ring that all the other members had.
he don’t hate Tupac, Tupac was never apart of the MOB! that’s all he’s sayin. if Pac never tried to be apart of it, and stayed in his own lane, he’d still be alive.
Exactly
@@berettaswayy8039 or this old geezer mob James who dresses like a teenager still 😆
@@berettaswayy8039 Pac wasca wannabe. I know that shite is hard to hear but tha wha it is. He wasn't MOB and he died pretending. Period
@@chandlerscaringia5260 bruh your name is Chandler GTFOH 😂😂😂
This nigga said he saw with his own eyes Tupac spittin on fans, then next time speaking on the incident said he didn’t see it with his own eyes but he heard it, then the next time he said he shouldn’t have said that it was some bullshit that somebody told him. If that ain’t hate I don’t know what yall call hate.
I understand what he saying about pac but he can't be mad at pac for claiming something that the other mob gang members allowed so he gotta be mad at the gang for allowing it
Word up, on hood.
THATS WHAT HE SAID
@@talkingbasketballwit haha yup
Wasn't that his sentiment...exactly?
@@fyreleomh1896 yes and no ..Pac really was just being loyal, I believe if he lived long enough Mob James would have seen wasn't no need to be mad at Pac for claiming mob
James been consistent with his issue, he always says 2pac had no business banging the hood that James was born & raised in, 2Pac from the East… started claimin a hood he was never a part of, & it got him killed, James ain’t hatin he’s speaking facts
Nobody cares. Grown men don’t need to be in a hood ways, especially when a nigga rich
Well James brother should’ve never put Pac down to claim the MOB
2Pac had no business in hood politics.. I blame Suge Knight cause Suge Knight should have kept his Artists out the streets while keeping his soldiers as protection instead of having them in the streets as gangsters.. Suge Knight would have been a billionaire Today and maybe 2Pac would be a live if Suge Knight and 2Pac though like Businessmen.. My Problem wit Rappers is that they still stay involved in hood politics when they don't have to..
@@drakotv9240 facts
@@kenrickeason how was he in hood politics Kuz he rode for his homie and puffy put a bounty on a death row chain
If Mobb James hadn't never knew Tupac or Suge would anyone be interviewing him? No!!!! He's making money off of talking bad about people that is putting money in his pocket. That's called bitting the hand that feeds you.
*fed you
You know that after Suge came back to Compton after playing football it was Mob James who he seen and then had the hood behind him to extort people for cash and start Death Row right? You could argue that without Mob James Death Row may not have got off the ground. Who knows how things would happened but don't discredit one of the blocks that created this history.
@@geraldfulton1623 naw he had it rite....feed.he's still making money currently off stories about 2pac & Suge.they basically still feeding him.
@@waxelfoley6624 it would've started with or without James you kinda stretching the truth.thats not to say he didnt contribute tho.he just needs to be more humble.& appreciate he even met Suge & Pac.anything else just looks bitter
Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail
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It's funny how Pac is not here and all these folks got slick ish to say now. I hate Pac surrounded himself with these snakes but what can you do. To the young folks don't let these old ninjas lead you astray. They'll be talking just like this when you gone
So what does that say about 2pac🤔
@@jarvisjones9529 I remember when Pac was alive everybody was on hush mouth. Lotta tough talk and disrespect 20 yrs later. Cowardly to talk down on a dead man
@@GP-bs3mn son that Pac DeathRow era was less than a whole year. So let's not act like Pac was on some 10 year reign in hip hop...talking mad shit & calling ppl out.
@@maximbelmont4641 let's also not act like his impact wasn't felt the most of all the Death Row artists including Snake Dogg. It's ok if he's not your thing, but all these people talking like they wasn't riding the coattails of Pacs success is laughable.
@@3rdGenerationCancer WHY ARE YOU ON THIS CHANNEL ??? SMDH ✌🏿🤡
Pac till the death of me
Tupac till I die will always love tupac 💕💕💕💯💯💯
I think James was salty about the gang embracing Tupac when he first started doing interviews. But I think he's grown to understand why people felt the way we do about him. He always keeps it respectful now days when talking about him.
He is not salty he is keeping to the code … the mafia code
@@moorepoint6619 pls shut up,how old are you? Mafia code my ass.
MOB James is right. 2pac was far from perfect unlike what his fans want to believe. He brought on a lot of that stuff himself. MOB James wasn't hating on Pac just stating facts.
Fax He was a fake gangsta shit got him + millions killed
@@Drewtootrue who’s the ‘’ millions’’ ?
@@outlawlife8894 😭😭
Don't nobody think Tupac is perfect little gregory lol. he admitted himself he's made mistakes in his life, so why would we think he perfect?
@@Drewtootrue millions? Lol. What millions are you talking about Mr dumb dumb 🤡 lol. 🤣🤣🤣.
He hated the fact that pac got excepted in by all the other og's without putting in work , u can tell he mad 🤣😂
Pac was paying the set and Mobb is an suspected Snitch
@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 pac wasn't paying shit ,u mean Suge was probably paying the mob for protection but not pac ,he was just accepted by real street guys , and without putting in work they took him in as mob but I'm pretty sure that night in Vegas was his initiation and if so ,I say give that man his stripes and respect it , he took off on Orlando without hesitation ,it cost him his life afterwards but he did it for the mob so in my opinion pac is mob piru and Trevon Lane I'm sure feels the exact same way
@@ddubentertainment7594 paying the Mobb with Pac and Snoop and Daz money
@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 that was Suge not pac once pac found it was his money they using,he wanted off death row ,
@@3rdGenerationCancer u should seek help , u just put the name pac in the place of your name and told your sexual abuse story lol 🥲
Mobb James bro understand this, the reason you getting all these interviews is because of 2pac. We as the people wants to hear Tupac stories not yours
get over it... 2pac man groupie
Is it NEW Tupac stories out there? Because,I've heard them all b4, several times.
Not at all Mobb James have nothin to do with Pac. Mainly Suge
He is getting the interviews because of death row . Not 2 pac
@@moorepoint6619 Exactly
How come anyone that has an opinion on someone automatically comes off as a hater. That’s some Gen-Z sh!t…
Coz pac like the pops they ain’t have
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Well that’s how they act. I bet they don’t even go as hard for they real pop as they do Pac 😂
@@ghostsaintpatrick3959 Rs😂😂😂
Spot on.
If pac showed him more love..he probably wouldn’t say half the stuff he says
Pac was closer to Buntry this dude brother.
Bullshit you simpletons don't get it. To most people with their head on tight Pac is not a deity.
@@msfergie5851 he was close with of couple of other people from the Mob but i forgot they name
@@satitlikeitis he may not be a deity but hes done more in a short 25 years for ppl than any man worrying about what hood 2pac from or isn't from.....
@@3rdGenerationCancer he gave to many charities and helped the homeless since he was once homeless he opened up his own house to the homeless literally … you can google it and youtube it… what benefit do y’all get hating on a dead man? I forget… trolls say anything
Does this guy not realize he would even be relevant rn if it wasn’t for pac. Bcuz of pac situation he got brought up. Just saying 🤷♂️
Mobb James only talent is talking about people that have feed him. If it wasn't for Tupac and Suge we wouldn't know him.
🤣😂😆 💯
At least he still here to tell his side of the story....
Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail
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Right
He always had a point, but the other stuff he said and assumed showed bitterness, like Pac supposedly spitting on fans which I think he said he never actually saw himself.
He lied about that.. Mark James isn't as thorough as people think he is lol
@@antonioboss298 Pac was a celebrity gangbanger. Face it. Doesn’t tarnish his legacy. & everybody dnt gotta respect the way he moved. Especially not someone who lived it.
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Pac was NEVER a gangbanger. He didn’t get put on to any set. He was just loyal to the guys he hung around. He was loyal to Suge (a blood) and hung around Big Syke (a crip). He never claimed a set. He’s not like Chris Brown or lil Wayne who mysteriously became bloods in their 20’s.
@@antonioboss298 the spitting on fans allegation also came from a former bass player who worked with DR artists in 95 and 96. He played bass at a performance Tupac did on the Late Show I think it was “I Ain’t Mad at cha”. The interview was on JMIX a few years ago. Can’t recall his name though.
@@selfmade8884 You're right that he wasn't from a set but you're wrong that he didn't claim a set. "Fuck the rap game nigga this MOB, so believe me we enemies" Makaveli
Damn you met him once and you know 2 Pac lmao
Mob James... A guy that dedicated his life to a lost cause...notoriety without a dime to show...
Without a dime to show? You don't know that for sure. You can say he's been cashing in now with all the interviews he's doing now on CZcams and has been part of podcasts.
His podcast is on Charlamagne’s black effect network so he’s not without a dime
@@fresh9358 listen... How old is this man? How much of his life has he dedicated to crime? Now do a cost/benefit analysis...what's a podcast with charlamgne really worth? Come on!
@@jamalrobinson2159 Ok he dedicated a good chunk of his life to crime suffered consequences and losses. Filled with regret. Making sure he’s setting a better example for his children and grandchildren and does a podcast on charlamanges network. Did he lost a lot? Yes. Is there a chance for redemption? Yes. A podcast being on charlamagnes network and having a deal with his network isn’t a bad thing
@@fresh9358 totally agree... Who can argue with redemption... They say your life is either a warning or an example... Mobs a warning
The younger generation. Smh nowadays having an opinion or not liking something makes you a hater. He stayed in his lane period.
There is a whole industry in deifying Tupac. Because he is dead, people can make Tupac anything they want to. MOB is being honest. Many of you only know Tupac from the hundreds of documentaries and 3rd hand stories. Tupac was a very talented, passionate, young man who paid for his rash decisions with his life.
There is also an industry of slamming him
@@msfergie5851 There isn’t an industry in slamming Tupac! His legacy in the mainstream is always protected..everything from telling people he knew he had signed with devil when it came to Suge, to being murdered for wanting to leave! He’s also been attributed to influencing the 1992 Watts Peace treaty! None of which is true. It’s not about slamming him, but being honest and putting certain parts of his life into the correct context.
Pac is a global legend. you are a player hater from the future
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 I met a really old OG Crip from the 92 truce and he had nothing but love for Pac. so why you hating? Suge didn't kill Pac or put a hit on Pac. Suge paid the opps 60k after the fact. you buttering up your hate
True.
Mob James is right.....
With friends like these we don’t need enemies
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This is a typical gang member mentality and Pac was more about that. They will never understand Tupac. Pac was a hope for your gang members or your hood. Understand Tupac thats what i i have to say about it.
💯 the hood needs to respect Pac no matter what. He showed you the blueprint to make money out of the hood.
The typical gang mentality is what got Pac killed. He was way bigger than that but got caught up in a gang war that he aint had no business involving himself in.
I think in this part of the interview he proved Charleston white right for the shit you trying to denounce you still claim it you had to catch yourself and say I am I was hey how you going to be mad at Tupac when Suge Knight was doing the same thing but he was cutting a check
I was thinking the same thing. This old man is still holding a grudge against basically a child. Tupac was 25 when he died. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't still be talking about MOB.
Lol suge knight was from the neighborhood, and he definitely said shit worst then this about suge
@@darrickhill1602 He answered a question. Other people are bringing it up. How else can you answer a question about history without talking about history? If you talk about next week, I doubt you'll hear him talk about the MOB set.
He was talking about back then .
@@kevinx9225 Simple right
So where is the lie, I been saying that, Tupac didn't grow up in Compton he's was more of an activist and things changed as he got older or should I say got in the industry, he was a great man excellent rapper but when you speak the truth you're a hater
He hate 2Pac because, Pac came in and lead MOB, they looked up to him. Mod Jame wanted that spot. Jealously produce hate.
And how do you know that?????
@@alexdesrouleaux2387 2:26 Jame said, i didn't want 2Pac to be a MOB, but all the homies was down with Pac. Jame couldn't tell them what to do but Pac could. Jealousy produce hate.
@@wex9210 That's because he was able to see thru Pac. Pac really was built for that LA gang lifestyle. He came from a revolutionary family. Not a gang family.
@@alexdesrouleaux2387 i agree Pac was really built for gang life.
@@wex9210 correction: Pac wasn't built for that lifestyle
as a pac fan and a man with sense; you guys cant kill james for saying something that he seen himself
NOBODY IN THE COMMENTS WAS AROUND DEATH ROW so how can we say otherwise ?
Facts some of these niggas in the comments be having weird emotional connections like they knew pac personally lol
Exactly
Preach brother Preach!
TRUE STORY!!!!!
@@tripbless2063 haha
I've always felt that he just felt bitter about that whole era seeing as it's what got his brother and a lot of his homies killed
And you wouldn’t be? If anything he’s mature about it
@@ghostsaintpatrick3959 I didn't fault him for that I was just saying I didn't feel he was hating on Pac
Yep
I disagree with that cause out of James mouth he said that Buntry put Pac on Mob Piru and he didn’t like that. And cause Pac was closer to Buntry than James that’s why he still has animosity.
Who cares about tutupac the ballet dancer and slob James.
He hating off a man who changed his life forever and still has him relevant till this day!??Ohok 🤷🏾♂️
Right
Facts
Love tupac but he right
Mob James is out numbered when he leave this earth his name will also leave this earth.
"2Pac Name will live on forever.
Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail
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What foolish talk is that ? James is 100% correct is what he saying
It's like saying you can't claim to be a Democrat if you don't hold a political office. Pac was putting the MOB in the spotlight and representing as much as he could. He didn't have to kill to prove it. He was a celeb. But he had nothing but love for them. He once said the only color I represent is GREEN and that's money.
Notice none of these so called OG’s never renounce the genocide they participated in!!!
Did the italians/la Cosa Nostra? Did any of our presidents? Do the police? Why is your focus that of ridicule? And what difference would renouncing it make? You'd just say "aww he didn't mean it" 🙄
@@powerstationw
How come errtime the topic of our behavior come up, people distract the convo by bringing other groups in!!!!!! We ain’t talm bout none of them. We talm bout OG’s that’s in public talm bout what they use to do, without having remorse for innocent kids, women and family affected by their actions. Stick to that part and stop tryna be like the real mob or cartels!!!!
@@jaygee8969 lmao. i actually agree with that last part... but my point is, they only do this when it regards black people. everyone else gets a pass for killing their own. meanwhile, they ignore conditions of the black community (and police leaving crates of guns in the hood) when condemning us for killing our own. its trickier than just some surface argument.
@@powerstationw
If you agree with the last part then why not leave it there. You are mixing what other people have to say about blacks versus what I said about the so-called OG’s. My point is that these dudes are on public platforms pretty much glorifying the genocide that they participated in and this has nothing to do with crates of guns being left for them to do it with.
No bad words nikka said Tupac was spitting on fans at the mall Vlad asked him was he there clown said no that's what they was saying but if not asked was he there you would have thought this nikka was there
@Truth Hertz word forreal
OG just being a OG, he actually sticking to the script like a movie, he's been all the way 💯..
The cap is crazy!! Now he saying he only had a disliking of Pac because of the mob s*** but he was blatantly lying on Pac saying he spit on fans and was rude to everyone 😂 foh
Another deluded pac fan, there is video of him spitting on people, highly unlikely it was the first he did it
Tupac spit on a camera crew one time that wouldn't let him through to get to his car.
I've seen Pac on tv spitting at reporters.
I will say this. James can't ever say Tupac never ever put in work or go through the struggled no matter where he was from. You have to remember, he actually came to the rescue of a brother being beaten up by two Caucasian off duty cops. He shot both to save the brother. He was shot five times the day before being convicted of sex abuse charges. Then spent time in jails and prison. He didn't have to be from Compton to go through his struggles and prove himself. If anything, he was an asset to the MOB. ©2021
What are you talking about ? James is talking about the mob . Not what 2 pac went through in his personal life … he is talking strictly about mob piru …
Why does he have to be a hater everything he said was real that man shouldn’t have been in blood business
He was an artist on death row surrounded by bloods no matter what he was going to be involved in blood business. Plus the South side crips is going around taking death row chains and he's on death row.
@@antonioboss298 yeah but he was an artist bro who was infatuated with the gang shit come on now he was loyal but for what why couldn’t they handle it why did he have to go over there for what they also said how excited he was after the fight was over when he got back to the hotel he was infatuated with that shit but he wasn’t ready for the kick back
Yeah, right. The head of my label is a Blood who hires gangstars as bodyguards but I will do my best to avoid them even though they hang around the studio where I make my music ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
@@utterspace i’m not suggesting avoiding them he was cool with them so why would he do that I’m not saying be a punk I’m saying mind your fucking business he was not a blood do you guys understand that he was being a follower I know it hurts to see these words but it is the truth the gang life was so fascinating to him
@@DjOuttasite1210 You expect someone who grew up with thugs cos he had to fend on his own from a very young age and made a gangstar album at 19, got shot nearly killed, had to walk around with a gun to protect himself not to be fascinated by the thug life? Wutang lived that life but no one says anything about them cos none of them got killed. Jam Master Jay didn't live that life and he got killed. Anyone can get killed. Dolph just got killed minding his business. I don't see anyone calling him out. pac was nothing but unlucky and was even ready to branch out on his own.. anyone with his kind of rep would have done what he did that day at the MGM.
People don’t understand west Tupac roots come from… how can y’all say this man is not gansta or hood when his whole family was real Black Panthers
They stupid
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It’s either you believe Tupac was a GOD or your a hater!!! I appreciate James telling his story and opinion on questions asked. If anything the problem is Vlad and Art asking dumb Pac questions.
Nah. It's just that homie has said some things that would lead you to believe he didn't like Pac.
I understand MJ stand and issue with Pac. I don't care who you are, If you don't or didn't put in the work, get the fuccc on. Just cause you got a lil money don't make you a G
Hit ‘em up: “Little Mu pass the mac”…
DJ Vlad: Who is Little Mu?
E.D.I. Mean: …..That’s Napoleon.
The dumb questions are just Vlad 😂
He def was salty/bitter towards pac when he first came out. Sometimes it’s more about the tone and what you chose to say or not say than then actual words. Literally a bunch of people all over the Internet (including at least one members of the Outlawz) all felt that way so there’s probably something to it.
In addition didn’t nuttso say that MOB or mobbin was a bay term Nd pac never joined the bloods? A lot of people speculate that pac clicked up but I’ve never heard it confirmed from anyone with first hand knowledge.
Money Over Bitches
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@@michaelgant584 why did you send this??
@@mrcassantos Pac had MOB tatted on him. He was clearly claiming Bloods. I'm a Pac Stan frfr. But I understand Mob James view. And if Pac would've listened he would be here today. I'm trying to be part of the solution to my people and not the problem. Peace to you King 👑 and R.I.P. Pac. I'm out
Pac use to scream "M-O-B" (Not Mob or Mobbin) at his concerts during the Death Row run. Watch his House of Blues live performance.
@@michaelgant584 how is you hating on Pac part of the solution? Pac almost died multiple occasions so you can't really say if he listened to Mob James everything woulda been fine
Thank good someone made him acknowledge he hates on 2Pac
Not one person in the entire world would care about "Arrest of Development" James and his neighborhood if it wasn't for Tupac and Suge. He would have zero relevance. I'm trying to understand how can you take great pride in representing something you didn't own? He was probably renting his parcel of land all those years. He could have taken all that energy and figured out a way to purchase 30 to 50% of the homes in his hood built a portfolio and showed his kids and grandchildren how to repeat the process. Instead, he takes great pride in doing harm in the past to his own people. This is a mental defect in our community. If James was in another ETHIC group(J, W, A, I) they would look at him like scum.
Let me get this right secretly despise the guy who had the potential to help change the trajectory of blk people and then feel proud about a very low IQ thought process(gang-banging) that puts blk people against each other and benefits nobody blk ultimately. Hint: you lost your brother Buntry and countless other brothers are lost. The neighborhood you were in wasn't yours look at the big picture.
We have to do better!!!
2Pac is M.O.B. because Suge & the other homies made him M.O.B.
2Pac may not have did dirt in the hood like James is saying but at the same time he was bigger than that. He was educated.
Rapper, Actor, Black Panther, Thug.
2Pac been in jail
2Pac been shot
2Pac shot 2 cops who were harassing a man.
James please let it go, he M.O.B.
He loved you all including Buntry.
James know that. Pac did dirt, just maybe not a bunch of dirt in james's hood.
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Thats not how the politics go. If you aint grew up in it you aint got no business repping it. Cant be joining no gang at the age of 25. Pac was so much bigger than that. Mob James is 100% right.
Nah bro Mob James is 100% on point.. if you don't put in work like that in the hood, it ain't gaining the same respect. That's not how LA gangbangin goes. Doesn't matter if he's "bigger" than anything. The hood is the hood. Y'all weirdo's outside of LA that don't understand the culture fr need to stop it. You got us way too f'd up there
@@3rdGenerationCancer
Get the facts straight before posting misinformation.
That was the clowns in the hood not 2Pac.
All respect to Mob James... but we wouldn't be watching none of Mob James interviews if it wasn't for Pac. RIP to the late Great. If you don't like em, stand on your square and say it
Well, technically mob james was in deathrow before Pac and knew Suge before Deathrow even formed. Wasnt it muscle like Mob james that gave Suge the ability to form deathrow in the first place? Deathrow was hot before Pac was in it. You might be able to say without Mob James muscle deathrow may have not had as strong a start and pac would have stayed in jail.
That a tough comment in my opinion.
@@pahdy93 respectfully disagree. The Mob Piru was death row muscle not just Mob James. If he wasn't doing it, somebody else would. Pac on the other hand is the most talked about subject in his interviews and anybody else's who was around death row. Pac is the cash cow even in death.
Typical Bitter OG that's all. I don't think he's a Pac Hater though but he's definitely one of them OGs who thought the hood was stay frozen in time like he wanted it to be... He makes his little valid points but while he didn't say anything foul about Pac he sure AF didn't say anything good.
Nor does he need to. I have no problems with nothing he ever said about Pac.
Bitter OG? Any real nigga will feel the same way. Been to prison, getting packed out in juvenile hall and all the shit. Some niggaz wear it as a badge of honour and if somebody wants to claim a hood without knowing that particular hoods struggle it will be frowned upon. Just like niggaz claiming 60's for the fame and never bust a grape for the hood. You never hear anything like this said about Nipsey because he came from the soil and did his little missions. Soulja Boy and Chris Brown are honorary Fruit Town Pirus cuz they slid somebody a bag. That's the shit Mob James don't like.
Does he need to say anything good ? no didn't think so.
So what everybody didn't like 2pac
@@cipriandobrea7369 yeah and like I said before he's a bitter broke ass OG with no bag. Why you think he's doing all the interviews about the same shit for???? Also let's make one thing clear here about the hood since your all such super Gangsters. How TF you explain all these so called gang members who got put on and did their missions then turned PC or informant or smoked their own homeboys outta jealousy. Or the ones that got put on and turned smokers and did 0 for their hoods?????? Your telling me that's honorable??? Look at the situation from both sides. I'm not rooting for the ones buying the status of a gangbanger. I understand the culture but these days we all know gang banging done shit but get people smoked or life. Or Stuck on drugs.
The algorithm is something else. I get recommended a bunch of similar videos and so many platforms are talking about Pac. Anyway, a video with Ice T came up on him talking about Pac. He shares the same thoughts as Mob James here.
Shock G and MC Eiht have said the same too. I think any level headed person who followed Pac's career can see that him trying to be something he wasn't caused his demise.
Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail.
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I'm sure we can pull all they background from a teen to mid twenties and shine a light on what they did and it won't be peaches and cream either. I couldn't see it the other way around with Pac speaking personal opinion on what they did in life. It don't make alot of sense. Just a lot of judgement and gossip.
Pac’s a human and we all make mistakes, no doubt in my mind. The problem with Mob James is that after Pac died, Death Row’s demise was around the corner. This demise lead to Buntry’s death (ppl at DR being unsatisfied with how they’re paid etc.).
So basically, Pac’s death is the cause for all the sh*t that happened after. That’s why Mob James sort of blames Pac for his own brothers death.
I wasn’t around M.O.B., Death Row, Pac or anybody but that’s my take on it.
U can criticize everyone at all times, but I feel like Mob James is extra salty when talking about Pac.
Suge is to blame more than anyone.
He's making money by talking bad about people that have put money in his pocket. If he didn't know them he wouldn't be known.
@@darrickhill1602 You may say he's talking bad but is he speaking facts?
@@darrickhill1602 known to who, you ?.you not even relevant in his world, people ask and pay him to tell his story not the other was round.. dont get it twisted..
Maybe you jealous coz he was closer to your idol than you ever was.
He literally says verbatim it’s the homies fault for allowing shit and you still gonna say he’s blaming Pac. Bro been said countless times the whole reason he stopped fucking with Suge and the bloods in DR was bc of “homies killing homies”. He never liked it and stepped away and that was right before Pac was locked in with DR. This is the same time that Suge is getting big and more money via bullying people and the folks he used for muscle wanted their pay. So no, James never blamed Pac for anything. If he’s ever blamed anyone for shit, he’s pointed fingers at Suge. The bloods in DR was already on BS when Pac got there. The music was just popping so nobody was paying attention as much as they should’ve been
At this point let pac rest peacefully
2pac still put in enough work in his own life to be piru was it in Compton no but he’s still done it and not just in one place , it was around the country that’s why the mob loved him he was a real nigga.
That’s not how that works
*Insert GIF of Eric Cartman licking the tears off of Scott Tenorman's face*
Mob James says he met Pac only ONCE & yet that is the main reason why anyone is interviewing him I’m not sure if he’s ever taken a step back to recognize that.
Exactly, he met him once! He never knew him, his brother did!
:He died cause he wanted to be a gangsta
U can't meet somebody twice😂😂😂
@@swoleog1498 nah homie ...lol try again
@@bigjonah5503 lmao
@@lubui2583 😂😂😂
I don’t remember Tupac ever claiming mob piru. As for Tupac claiming MOB, he’s been claiming that since he got into the rap game coming out of the Bay Area.
Fuck the rap game this M.O.B.
MOB was money over bitches.
@@MrThegenral1 in Oakland (where Tupac claimed to be from): mob means “my other brother @
f the rap game this is (mob) so believe me we enemies
Tupac being saying M.O.B. since strictly for my n.....
MR PAC. Had. A bunch of hatters. All around him. They all wanted to be him.
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2:19 Mob James says he doesn't have a reason to dislike Pac but he has a issue with Pac? He just Mad cause Pac represented his hood better then he ever did or will. Everybody back then liked 2Pac the Rapper/Actor. But had issues with Tupac Shakur the man! #LiveAndDieinLA
Are you stupid? Do you not know pac died because of what mob James is talking about I seriously believe this generation really have no brains 🧠
His feelings are valid, you'd understand if you were from the hood. Tupac wasn't puttin in any work, so he shouldn't have even been claiming MOB.
@@3rdGenerationCancer these 2Pac fans say anything and weird 😂😂
@@derrickwilliams918 I am a pac fan, a serious pac fan but we can’t be blind to the fact that pac died being on some street shit. When he is 2PAC! He had no business getting involved, mob James is just talking the truth but this generation call the truth hating. I’m too old for this shit lol
In 30 years I never heard that Pac was a gang banger till now …in his music he said he wasn’t..Mob says other wise …wtf going on
I didn't want to believe it either but everyone said him and Treyvon got to be really close before he died so it happened within his last 6 months of living
Tupac was wild af
Exactly bro. Mfs be tryna rewrite history but his songs say different
@@trapmuzik6708 outlaws say different tho that’s why I’m confused
“We claim Mob, M-O-B to be specific.”
“It’s Makaveli from the mob: M-O-B”
Pac let it be known on more than one occasion.
If another man does not praise your idol, he is not a hater.
Thank You.
Mob James has a point. But I also feel Tupac was just a rider like he said. One thing about being a ride or die, you have to accept that an early death might be your fate.
I love Pac but Mob James is spitting truth here.
Mob James tells it like it is!
For all of youTupac "Stans" , Pac was not perfect he said and did lots of bad things before he died.
If someone pointing out the bad things Tupac did and said, doesn't mean they hate him.
It don’t but once someone just focus on mentioning his mistakes and all the bad he’s done it makes them look like a hater 95% of the time mob james has something negative to say when he gets asked about pac
What's the bad thing Tupac did in relation to Mob James??
the nigga lied and said pac use to spit on fans
@@sayblood8238 But we don't know what Mob James says 95% of the time because we don't hear 100% of what he says. We know what gets recorded, edited, and put up for clicks. Besides, what he's saying here is real. Tupac, in that instance, was playing with some sh!t he had no business playing with. And if you know what it is, you know he's right.
@@anonymouslakernerd7214 Pac was nothing but a subject of ENVY. He won't be the first rapper to claim gangstar. How many drive by was Snoop involved in that makes him Crip "certified". Pac was just too LARGE and made them feel small cos of all the love he got. That's just the truth. He was a MAN. All I know is if you pull a gun on Pac he is definitely pulling one on you if he is fast enough and will probably shoot first. Not every gangstar has to be a MURDERER.
He has said some bad things about Tupac on Vlad, he should just admit that. His reasons for not liking him are still the same so I don't understand why he's trying to deny that part but he still says he don't care what nobody says.
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He’s clearly mad Pac ran with the others and not him…when asked about it he never said huh? What u talking about? When? Cuz he already knew he was a hater
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SURE DIDNT SAY ALL THAT WHEN PAC WAS ALIVE....JAMES CAME OUT AS SOON AS SUGE WENT IN
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And do you think he was afraid of pac or suge ? Suge and pac where scared of him rather
@@moorepoint6619 Suge and pac scared of drunk jealous rat Mob james that was more quiet than a church mouse until Suge got sentenced to 28 years in prison?
Foh
@@club6626 go listen to interview … all artist on death row said the same thing about James . They were all scared of him . Go listen to other comment about him
@@moorepoint6619 Who? Name one artist that even remembers Mob james..
James wasnt even around Deathrow
I watched many of his video or interviews. No Mob James never talked bad about 2Pac he did keep everything 100 -And not scared (Mob James) about telling the truth about what went on in his time.
He did say in one interview that he didn't to much care for him.
I agree with MOB James and I'm not a gangbanger. Mob James never hated on Pac. People are stupid if they believe James is a Pac hater.
Pac was putting in work when he died smh he was tryna earn the title he was giving. Mob seem cool but he do sound bitter
Sound like wisdom
And what happened to him? That’s right. Tryna jump in the backseat, fighting for his life, on the stretcher.
Pac was a sucka to start gang banging at 25 he was just like Chris brown soldier boy to try to start claiming mob
@@jacobbrock7192 u a sucka for speaking on the dead. And bet he beat YO ass had he still been alive. He was rolling wit sure and dem they was mob so he got blessed in. Foolish yes but he was 25. How old is you speaking on the dead like yo mammy aint raise u right 🤔
@@outlawjonezofficialmusic3618 how u wise fighting one eye trolls 🤔
Respect for confronting him about that lol
Maybe he’s right maybe he’s not a Pac hater…
Mob James not a hater!!
It may appear that way because he wasn't a groupie!! 💯💯
From somebody who lived that life, not to say Pac didn't, real talk!
People need to stop this silly accusation about Pac saying he lived that life. He didn't need to belong. He was his own man. He walked around with guns. If you popped at him.he would pop back without backing down. He held his ground when he had to. Coming out of jail put a lot of restrictions on him because he was on probation and also in the public eye but a lot of people don't talk about that.
@@utterspace pac was a follower period
@@corneilmadison8971 This doesn't even make sense in any ramification. What does a follower mean? Them "thugs" were hired to be his "bodyguards"...follower my ass😂
@@corneilmadison8971 knock it off
@@RG-zw5wc I mean he wasn't a follower but loyal the thing is eventually it would have cost him his life because he down with whoever he rode with wich means could have been the mob, Jamaicans anybody he went up against just for being loyal still would cost him his life and get out your feelings
Foul is an Ambiguous term and yes Mr Mob you have said foul things about Pac. However you haven’t stopped taking checks on behalf of his name. Not so solid or respectfed🤦🤷♂️
😂😂💯💯
Facts
Rip pac this People are cowards
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2pac never claim the MOB tho. James needs to stop lying
Word, Pac's own definition of MOB is literally in lots of his songs and interviews. Fucking casuals haven't a clue
Except for saying MOB all the time.
@@alphavegas1 Money over Bitches not Mob Piru don't get it confused
@@fredrey2242 @@fredrey2242 hahahaha look at the confused one. I bet you can catch your girls with another mans inside her and she says "It wasn't me" and you believe her. Hahahaha
@@fredrey2242 I bet you think North Korea is a Democratic Republic huh? Bwahahaha
Everyone here tunes into this channel to hear about the life of one of the greatest musicians of all time. As much we all love Pac, understand that he was only HUMAN. He made mistakes too. What’s great about this channel is that everyone has their own unique story of Pac. Thats shows the impact he had during his time on this earth. All we can do is take it for what it is, and decide who and what we want to believe.
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I don’t respect this 🤡 because he’s talking all this crap after suge went to jail.
Exactly! I’ve been saying that. I’ve never heard of MOB James until Suge went down
You sound like a clown. I've been heard about mob James and others in Piru and thousand of others He played behind the scenes my guy.
@@alexdesrouleaux2387 but he did not come on the public scene running his mouth until suge went to jail
He said he saw Pac spit on someone and really don’t know him smh
He never said that you misinformed as f*#k
@@satitlikeitis Mob James laughing saying Tupac was raped in jail.
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He mad Tupac took MOB around the world. While he only took it around the block.
😁 you right though
Things started going bad when pac started shouting M.O. B and rolling with the bloods
This is one hell of an interview is consistent with what he's saying I see no shade or hate here he said what he said and I can respect everything this man just said ‼️
Thanks Mob James for keeping it real.
I think the lame part about this point of view is it’s coming from 50..60 year olds NOW speaking on a 25 year old 2pac and the choices he made THEN.. good bad or indifferent. Let’s go back and see what they were doing at 25.
“I met him once” 😂 GREAT answer to a VERY poorly worded question
He’s absolutely right. He looks at it like I’ve got homies that are dead in the name of MOB. He’s got homies doing life in prison in the name of MOB. And these rappers want to just come along and flash a bit of money and start claiming. For those old timers it doesn’t work like that.
2pac didn't claim mob though
@@ForzaBlucerchiati yes he did M. O. B. That was the code just too say money over bitches. Pac was a revolutionary and conscious black uplifting how can you be banging you from the bay. People love him especially the Bay Area they didn't want him involved to la politics
@@mannybroi5142 Did he get put down by MOB!!!!? If not you heard what he said they expected a celebrity to break bread.
A rapper is a human so called gang bangers are humans they ain’t made differently y’all need to stop
Bs that hood gave Pac a pass to claim that block this man been bitter for decades
You giving these people that had nothing to do with the success of Tupac on death row a platform.......... That's just like asking shaq how was those two championships that Kobe won by himself
He was with Suge strong arming people making them sign their music rights over to Suge when deathrow had nothing. So he had a lot to do with helping them get on the map in the beginning.
@@satitlikeitis that was one time with vanilla ice ...... He's literally the ball boy for the 90s bulls I was there I was there !!!!!! Foh
@@westburns24 Not true, He was the one holding a gun on security at the lawyers office while Suge was there getting Dre and them contract. That's all that was going on at first strong arming and stealing equipment and contracts. Harry hadn't even splashed Suge with cash yet.
What does that have to do with Tupac on death row? Or any other artists for that matter
Most of the people commenting don't really understand LA gang culture. They don't understand the history of it, the backstory of The Black Panthers and The Us movements, Operation CoIntelPro, and the politics of gangs in Southern California. Every city has gangs. I am born and raised in Brooklyn, NY, and even we had gangs growing up in the 80s and 90s, and way before. I grew up in a rough, violent, hostile environment. But LA and Chicago are different. They are gang cities. It's sewn into every aspect of society there. These hoods eat, sleep and breathe gangs. A lot of the time they don't even jump people in or "make" people put in work. They just either court people onto a set or people interweave their entire lives into a set that it's just accepted that a person is from a gang, and the work that person puts in is a given.
I think what a lot of people are not understanding is that Mob James' underlying criticism is that after a certain age or time period or situation, there is no "I'm claiming MOB." Tupac wasn't from Mob Piru hood, and he didn't really do anything to actually truly claim Mob. It doesn't matter if he hung out with Suge and other Pirus. It doesn't matter if he befriended a lot of bloods. He was not from that life, at all.
If you don't understand LA gang culture, and especially if you are one of the many people deifying Tupac, then you think that anyone who says anything about that is not positive about Tupac is hating on him without really listening to what people like Mob James are saying. And to be clear, he is not the only LA gang member to say what he is saying.
I'm only commenting because I understand LA gang culture "enough" to really listen to what some of these former gang members are saying (I read books on it and have watched dozens and dozens of documentaries and interviews on it). I don't even think I have the ability to explain to people who are opposed to Tupac criticism what this actually means. Until you really sit down and read or watch or understand the politics and history and lifestyle of LA gang culture, then you probably won't really understand any of this fully.
And whether people want to admit it or not, so many people (especially people in my generation) deify Tupac. He can do no wrong in a lot of people's eyes. Let's be honest here. He was a revolutionary person; highly intelligent, passionate about uplifting his communities and people, and one of the most talented people of the 20th century. But his shift to involving himself in Death Row was a BIG mistake. He is treated like the Hip Hop Jesus, but whether you want to accept it or not he made some very serious mistakes when he linked up with Suge and Death Row. And until people are willing to accept that, they will just see posts like mine or interviews like Mob James as an attack on Pac.
I know this comment will get a lot of hate, but truth is truth. Even Tupac himself knew he should have distanced himself from Suge, and started to try to right some of his wrongs in the last times of his life. Take the emotion out of how you feel about Pac and really just listen to what people like James are saying.
I highly suggest watching "Bastards of the Party" (link: czcams.com/video/fS0qxNsWgx8/video.html). It's one of the better documentaries that touches on this lifestyle, and sheds light on how deep rooted LA gang culture is. When you understand that, you understand why Tupac has no business claiming Mob, why some of the Mob Pirus had no business letting Pac claim Mob, and why Pac should have completely steered clear of the chain incident in Vegas. If he did, he would still be alive.
I like pac alot..but I'm listening to mob james he sound like a real old g