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Trevon Lane Should Be Blamed For 2Pac’s Death. I Believe He Told 2Pac To Jump On Orlando Anderson!
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2021
- Mob James explains why he believe Trevon Lane should be held accountable for Tupac's death.
Imagine the biggest rapper in the world in 1996, being sent on a dummy mission to attack a well known shooter in Orlando Anderson. Death Row records as a whole, failed 2pac. Winning that fight wasn't worth his life.
Them niggas followed him to the fight instead of restraining him. Pac was so much of a loyal soldier he didn’t realize he was too valuable to be a foot soldier. His emotions got the best of him that night but that was how he always was. Somebody had to save 2Pac from himself and they didn’t smh it was all around a fucked up response that night in Vegas
He didn’t really win it. The move on Orlando was some sucka shit off top and was handled poorly. No way was Orlando gonna let himself be humiliated by a rapper. He could’ve took the beat down better if the Bloods had jumped him alone…he would’ve waited to get back to Compton to handle that. But Tupac…a RAPPER? Hell naw…Orlando HAD to fix that as soon as possible. Pac signed his own death warrant by touching Orlando.
@@desertdetroiter428 u literally word for word stole that comment from mob james on a Vlad interview 😂😂
@@alexmoore1366 truth though lol
Everything was staged.Where is Tupac's autopsy report? Who was the Doctor that certified PACs death? Who cremated Pac? How about the white girl who was interviewed at the crime scene claiming she saw a helicopter take off not too long after the shooting?
People say this rapper is great or that rapper is great. Let me tell you what great is. 2pac died in 1996 it's almost 2022 and he's still the most talked about rapper of all time. That's what you call great.
Big FACTS!!!!!
@802Blues nah they talk about several events that took place in his life
indeed
No that’s called a tragedy. Nonsense.
2pac is the most overrated rapper of all time. His fans are worse than Eminem fans. Let the man die he’s gone
Trevon was the only one in that group that could identify Orlando.. pac had no idea who orlando was.. … 100% it’s Trevon’s fault
Homies gave him a pass on that one
I am a pac fan and I understand his loyalty but every man responsible for his own actions. Everyone wants to blame everyone around him for his own actions. He hit dude regardless of the reason and it caused his death. That dude was special and we were robbed of witnessing his evolution
Couldn'tve caused a driveby that was already prepaid for.
@@moretolifemmg2703 aaah man shutup
@@tonystarke9820 writing a book soon. Always stand up for Truth in life. Gang mind is dumb down. Help me figure out how to stop migration based on skin color in African countries by caucasian men this present day.
@@tonystarke9820 he ain't lying tho, regardless of pac's actions he still would of got shot
@@tonystarke9820 hes right, with Trevon responsible for Pac doing Tres duty by retaliating for the Lakewood Mall incident you can bet your ass Tre atleast had a reason to do so and he might even be an accomplice of the real insitigators of Pacs murder, Suge might be a posisble suspect aswell since he never gave a clear statement about what happened at that night ( could be due to Deathrow Records connection with crooked cops aswell ). MOB James is right here. The whole murder case should look like gang violence while it doesnt follow the standard street code, aint that suspicious ? And Tre to this day still denies that he pointed Orlando out to Pac at that night. And who could cover a murder as gang violence perfectly ofc crooked cops from an anti gang unit, those people are the most familiar with the local gang culture. Pacs murder case starts with the Quad shooting and his hate against the BadBoy camp which then was used in the rumor that Puffy put a bounty out on Deathrow chains and if he gets one that it will be used in an upcomming music video, which then lead to the Lakewood Mall incident and the things pointed out earlier. If all this still aint sounding like a real conspiracy against Pac to you then i dont know what would. HIs weak points were used against him and he did fall for the traps unfortunately because of emotions. I hope that his family will get real justice and that the real inistigators will be caught. Aswell as Biggies family also. Both murder cases might be connected in the worst possible ways and there is a high chance no gangbanging has anything to do with it.
2pac was a fully grown adult. He made his own choices. No one forced him to punch Orlando.
He made a Big mistake, and it cost him his life.
Agreed. RIP to the great but impulsive legend
But let’s not say niggas influenced him to jump him
He ride and died for his family that's called loyalty if you ain't riding for your family you ain't family you don't know nothing about the life
Have you been listening ❓gangbangers
DJ Quik said it was Treyvon who brought down Death Row.Guess he was rite
Frank Alexander and Suge said the same thing in so many words
These are gang members lol ,, you’re beef is my beef ,, 2 pac killing was bigger than gang members
Never heard that story abt quik saying that,not saying it wasn't said but I would like the link to see/hear it with my on two.
💯💯✊🏾💯💯
That’s crazy bc quik and tre was cool
Trevon lane denies he spoke specifically to Pac to point out Orlando and so does Reggie based off what Trevon told him. But two other people who were there..Frank Alexander and Suge Knight have both separately spoken about Trevon indeed pointing out Orlando and speaking directly to Pac. Mob James also backing that version.So upto you who you believe..I’ll go with Travon pointing him out to Pac!!
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You can believe Reggie or your lying eyes. Everyone saw the video of Trevon whispering to Pac
Suge never said that.
@@GP-bs3mn I agree Tray spoke to Pac, but I don’t believe it was captured or released on the MGM security cam. Unless you’ve seen it and Ive missed it?
@@jihadx5307 Suge absolutely 100% did say that!!It was in his documentary filmed in 2014 (American Dream, American Nightmare).
I don't think Tupac cared about yall neighborhoods - respectfully. He was loyal to Suge and DR. So when Trevon came over and said what he said, he took off because he he saw it as a DR vs. BAD BOY beef (Suge vs. Puff), not a beef between two gangs. I do agree that Pac shouldn't have been involved but, he was loyal to SUGE and DR, not red or blue. Period. It's easy for people to sit on their soap boxes now at 50+ years old and say what a 25 year old should and shouldn't have did. But, he did it and we're here now. We've all done things at 25 (and younger) that we shouldn't have done. Sometimes it cost you your life and other times it don't. Either way, Pac's death deified him and he'll forever be talked about.
Facts + there was a rumor that diddy put a 10k bounty on death row chains.
Pac for sure was loyal and the same character in Tupac that had him shoot cops before anyone else and punch Orlando before anyone else is the same reason everyone loves his character but Tre talking instead of reacting himself has everyone question his character. Tre nearly had his chain taken and didn’t do anything about it for months; sounds like he was more with the drama than the get-back
Facts
Well said!!!
All facts
I’m still shocked that nobody has interviewed Trevon Lane yet on either here or Vlad. I know he is tired of people blaming him for PAC’s death. He has to defend himself at some point!
He's only spoken briefly on Bomb1st
@@kevinlee9929 Yeah I heard that interview but he definitely needs to do one of these long form sit down interviews to explain himself. Him and Sam Sneed gets bashed and destroyed whenever Vlad or Art interviews somebody from that Death Row era. I feel bad for both of them!
@@aarong3000 Reg said he working on a book. Thats why he isn't talking. Expect him to do interviews when he's ready to drop it.
@@kevinlee9929 He definitely needs to do it soon while all these channels are still interviewing all these Death Row people!
@@aarong3000 When does Sam Sneed get bashed? Especially on AOD’s channel. I love Pac but dude was dead wrong for what happened to Sam. I feel like most people share that sentiment
I met Mob James, and to be honest i Seriously Seriously felt for him
Far Out the sadness in his eyes, when describing Feeling completely Responsible for the passing of his brother,
The man is STILL suffering 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 and in Grief and guilting himself in to spreading warnings to the youth, to this day
Breaks my Heart
Hugs from Australia
He joined a gang that was his decision
@@htatesil4192 It;s not that simple and you don't have a clue.
@@deman19901 man yall really have a obsession with Reggie and James mad yall heroes are corrupt this wouldn't be going on if suge was out
@@htatesil4192 Actually I don't, It takes an idiot such as yourself to judge a man without walking in his shoes.
@@deman19901 James and Reggie wouldn't be doing this if suge was out same with kading James hurt people especially his brother so why do u feel any sympathy for him get off his nuts lol
Pac in heaven looking down like, "ya still talking about me" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
People been talking about Tupac everyday and still will for decades
Frfr preach
Yeah, he’s like “y’all niggaz can’t live without me 🤣🤣” “I ain’t mad at cha” he’s probably laughing in thugz mansion 😂
U fools got more love for Fupac than your own kids..foh
@@negroantonio28 who pissed in your cheerios this mornin? Calm down fool
You are right James. Travon is a punk. He couldn't fight his own battle. He got that ass whooping and why didn't he take it to Orlando if he saw him first? Didn't Pac have a song called "Bomb First??"
Say it too tre face I bet he whop your ass tre wasn't no punk back then
James mad tre left bountry hanging when he was cornered at his house
Why don't you find him and say it to his own face .
@@PSICK1234ikillallracistrolls why don't you find him and=-
tell him you're protecting his nuts from intruders, Mr Cock Police??
@@htatesil4192 bruh fuck him it’s his fault pac is dead
I put the blame on Trevon as well.
Plz don't blame him. This is bigger than Trevon; in fact, it was bigger than Pac. Bob James points the finger at him because no one fuccs with Trevon no longer for reasons other than that Chain
Put the blame on Tre as if Pac was a child. Pac doing was his doing & he was a grown man.
Don’t be stupid
I blame the mgm and them tampering the tape also we see one angle and there's cctv in that lobby at every angle I don't why people don't pay attention to detail the fbi was there watching Orlando
Tre still has his deathrow chain all that shit was lies man It gives a theory on why 2pac attacked him
I keep saying Treyvon whispered to Tupac and should be blamed. BUT…. Y’all keep listening to Reggie Wright saying Treyvon didn’t whisper to Tupac WHEN Reggie wasn’t there!!! Suge and Big Frank was there and told u idiots what happened. Nah y’all rather listen to Reggie.
As if Treyvon gonna be honest about PAC’s murder being his fault🤦🏾♂️
Pac was a grown man capable of making his own decisions. He didn’t have to jump out the window because Trevon said so.
@@LaDericYng And Treyvon was a grown @zz self proclaimed “Gangsta” who was to much of a MARK to go head up with some dude who tried to take HIS chain! But you punks STILL refuse to give him 💩🤦🏾♂️
@@RiccFBA Trevon had REAL KILLERS right there in his crew and he chose to point Orlando out to Pac?? Shut up goofy!
@@LaDericYng U should be asking Treyvon tht question.
Suge said it (HE WAS THERE)
Frank said it (HE WAS THERE)
Mob James JUST SAID IT! (HIS BROTHER WAS THERE) but u still don’t believe it🤦🏾♂️ so who’s the real “goofy” U don’t even have the capability to critically think. You’re a perfect example of how poor our educational system has become across this country.
@@LaDericYng fight Trevon could of walked up to Orlando and beat him up or he could of had Suge’s goonz beat Orlando why he get a rapper to do that??
When you put things in perspective, why didn’t Treyvon go to Buntrey or Neck bone first? Buntrey and Neck Bone was the muscle. Better yet, if Orlando was by himself why didn’t Treyvon’s scary ass just take off on him when he seen him?
Treyvon is the 1 who made 2pac the Mob so this was probably his chance to put in actual work
@@trapmuzik6708 man please. Trevorn was scared because Lando likely put hands on him at the mall incident, so Trevorn didn't want to face Lane 1 on 1 at the MGM. Common sense
@@Kenny-Alpha no it was a planned set up. Tupac had just fired David Kenner and audited Death Row. Kevin Hackie was an FBI informant and he warned Tupac not to go to Vegas. Tupac was supposed to attack Orlando so he'd need David Kenner to stay out of jail. Then they were going to kill Suge and take over Death Row. But Tupac got in the wrong car and Suge used him as a shield. Then since Suge didn't die David Kenner subpoenaed the MGM footage that got Suge sent to prison for 9 years for a probation violation. Then David Kenner and Reggie Wright Jr made a fortune robbing Death Row.
@@micahwest2793 I don't do conspiracy theories my man
@@Kenny-Alpha You need to do research that's all known facts not no conspiracy.
ALL of this stared over a chain a GOT DAMN chain. Sadly the mentality of many black folks has not gotten any better since 2 Pac's death.
Rumor had it Puffy put a bounty out on the chain for 10000.
@@YurumeinHerballyLivingTupac touch wrong dude that night no doubt
Mob is right 100 percent it was trevon lane fault he shouldnt told pac shit he should of got the homies and got a 1 on 1 wit Orlando right there
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Pac was loyal and wanted to help his people that were with him, I hate to say it but loyalty brought a downfall to 2Pac (R.I.P. to a legend )
Facts and alot of these guys weren't loyal to Pac
Facts💯
This is probably going to be an unpopular comment but 2Pac, In a way, brought his own death on himself. The minute he put his hands on a known gangster, he sealed his fate. I wish somebody would’ve pulled him to the side and said “hey man, while we appreciate your loyalty, you the money maker for us! We got hired guns that handle stuff like this. You stay out of this.“
@@EVGriffinJr Or told him and Suge that jumping on Orlando was going to send them back to jail. If Tupac would've lived his bond was getting revoked for jumping on Orlando.
Pac was loyal to a fault that was his downfall and joining death row
My understanding of the incident is that Tupac was set up by someone he was loyal to and he believed they had his back. Tupac is the first rapper that I loved his lyrics, tone, and quality of work. I could understand the words. He was passionate and had a beautiful smile. We lost a good one. RIP Tupac we love and miss you dearly❤️🙏❤️🙏
That is NOT what happened. Pac played himself when he got involved in the streets instead of staying involved in showbiz. 🤷🏾♂️
@@luciencubano 💯 factz👍🏿
Y is it so hard for black folks to understand a nigga moment isn't a set up or conspiracy
@@AnttWillaThaThrilla 🗣yessssssss
Pac, had a little bit of a Napoleon complex when he drank. I remember a bunch of dudes trying to prove Thier selfs to the big homies all the time. Pac, craved the attention for real. Plus pac didn't mind fighting. You have to understand pac had that old school thing going on "meaning throw your hands up" little Duke was a good fighter for his size and knew to swing 1st and swing hard. He was no push over for real. you have to understand everyone on the row was trying to get their own and noone gave a shit about the next man. If they did someone would have told him who and who not to put his hands on. Real gangstas do real things. You don't put your hands on a real man without consequences. Streets ain't a game. Last thing: POLITICS... Orlando wasn't about to go backwards after putting work in and go back to the hood after that where people may possibly have thought he got his ass whooped by a 150lb rapper named Tupac. Nope. Politics. You have to end that man's life. Not all those dudes that jumped on him but the dude who threw the 1st swing for sure. I believe pac is looked at like a god because when someone who is as intelligent as him and can mingle with the most elite and the most good type dudes. He knew how to get on anyone's level no matter what. It's a beautiful gift that most people envy.
Trevon is the only person who haven't done an interview. He's the missing puzzle to all this
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
I remember seeing a DJ Qwik video bashing the hell out of "Travon for messing everything up" 😆
Yeah Quik said Trayvon is the reason death row went downhill.
Yelp, I saw that video.
Quik just don't like him
Saw that. Still tho. Just wish all them foos that wr following
PAC after the fight, was in front of him before he rushed Lando.
Quik wasn't wrong, he even told Suge that Death Row can't be ran properly like that
2pac a grown man…HE MADE THAT CHOICE NOBODY FORCED HIM OR MADE HIM FEEL OBLIGATED TO MAKE THE CHOICE HE MADE RIP PAC BUT HE SIMPLY MADE BAD DECISIONS HES HUMAN
He was trying to prove that he was a gangster. He didn't want to accept that he was just an entertainer. Step into the wrong lane, way over his head, and got served trying to be something his wasn't and couldn't live up to. You say he was a man and made his own decision to attack Orlando. Well, the decision he made proved he was a child and accordingly, he got treated like a child and got tuck into bed, night night, lights out.
Yeah ok Gravy Guns
@@gravyguns Hating a_ss
He was loyal. Loyal as a dog until his death some of y’all wouldn’t understand because y’all ain’t gotta loyal bone in ya and look out for yourself REGARDLESS of how many favors someone does for you. Imagine being locked up and someone u hardly know BAILS u out and wants u to join a half a billion dollar record company. His record label left him for dead. Go to jail and see how many people will put up money to get u out that HARDLY knows u and if that person bails u out, BET you’d be loyal too and if not then you shouldn’t speak on the situation AT ALL
I think pac faked it tre to this day has his deathrow chain it was never snatched smfh so many lies Orlando was paid off by suge and Orlando sued pacs estate what does that tell u pac pulled a makaveli that's why there are so many lies
It’s crazy how everyone have ran with Trevon Lane story with no concrete proof that he’s telling the 100% truth. We will never know exactly what Trevon Lane told Tupac. It’s not like he’s gonna admit that he told Tupac to jump on Orlando Anderson. Trevon Lane knows he’s gonna get backlash if he admits that. 🤷🏾♂️
@DW International man pac is dead stop it
@DW International No one seems to remember that but her.
How can Trevon just "tell" Pac to go jump someone? From what we know of Pac as a man and leader, that makes no sense whatsoever. Pac took it upon himself to jump in first. The Pirus was immediately behind him, which tells you Trevon didn't just "whisper" it in Pac's ear, he told the whole group.
@@jwilliams9334 frank and suge who were both there said that treyvon whispered in Tupac ear. Yet everybody suffers from amnesia when it comes to that part
@@jwilliams9334 exactly. Trayvon didn’t force Pac to do anything.
2Pac was loyal to a fault. It wasn't about blood or crip, it was about the being loyal to deathrow. Trevor lane put a key in 2Pac's back but at the end of the day we have to live with the choices we make whether right or wrong. Rest in Paradise Tupac Amaru Shakur and Christopher Wallace (biggie).
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
A little off topic but, James is losing weight and looking healthier. Keep it up👏
Sus
Dude almost died due to COVID thats why he lost all this weight
@@DennisMitchell7 oh, okay. I had no idea.
@@r.stubbs845 i just realized I mixed that up with Reggie Wright. So my info about James is wrong, sorry!
If Pac was drunk (which he probably was considering he just watched the fight), then this is a very good point. It could point to more of a cover up if everything.
The bottom line is Pac put his hands on a guy that he had no business touching. Mob said it best, and Eiht also. Pac had no business putting his hands on this guy that was with the business!! Lane was a killer Pac was a rapper.
2pac was probably drunk and high as fuck of powder cocaine.
@@bigbaba4542 all cocaine is powder. What a goof
@@kyleboswell1381 free base isn't powder.
Yes Pac was DRUNK and when youre drunk, you do dumb shit and shit without thinking
We need that Trevon Lane interview ASAP
It’s not gonna happen. He’s trying to get a movie deal done
He better do it before vlad
Trevon said he ain’t doing no interviews.
He doesnt want to do interviews because he doesnt want more people to know how he looks. Since he is the one that sent Pac to his death.
@@Speak_Datruth13 Yepp this proves he super guilty
How many times are we going to go over the Tupac shooting?? This has to be the 1 millionth time we've gone over who did what or who didn't do what was needed....Dam!!! It's been 26, 27yrs since that night....and that's FACTUAL 💯
Man fu ck all that we want more
It's been 25 years stop with the lies lol
@@jacobbrock7192 huh...You're saying wtf I'm saying.....
Thank you for saying that. People acting as if Art have put out some new information.
Security murdered pac they blocked suge in
if a man can tell you to attack a man that you don't know and the man who told you to hit him, you just met the man 9 months ago...L for 2pac
😂 you right on
The interesting thing is this. The part where James says this wasn’t 2Pac’s fight. This interview was published a year ago…in the current Joe Tory interview that is currently running on VladTV Joe talks about how 2Pac made a lot fights that were not his, his fight.
Trevon knew if he went to Buntry, Neckbone and them they would’ve told him to go handle his business, remember Orlando was alone so it would’ve been a one on one, he was simply scared
How is Trevon gonna be scared lol 😂 don’t you forget that Orlando and his crew jumped trevon at the mall of course buntry and neckbone would have helped him since Orlando did the same thing to him with his crew
@@fightgamer8311 if he wasn’t scared he would’ve just took off, there’s no need to explain to the homies, the homies will follow when the fight is on, hood brothers know what I’m talking about
No Pac just happened to be next to him
Y’all some gossiping weirdos, just like that old fart lol
Speculation
Yup. That’s why dude been laying low ever since
damn
Mob James talking facts. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Tupac was too worried about impressing Suge so he took off towards Orlando. Tupacs fear of Suge and wanting his approval is what caused this incident. Facts.
Mob James touched on something there,maybe he did so deliberately or not...the only person out of that crew who knew Orlando was Trayvon and Reggie wright, and u know what...Reggie wright never has anything Bad to say about Trayvon,those are the onyx 2 people he never talks shit about trey and suge,now ask urself why...I feel reggie wright had a big part to play in Pacs death, he was likely the one who set this whole shit up...plus Frank Alexander who was with Pac said he was on the right side of Pac and Trayvon came to the left side of Pac and whispered in Pacs left ear I have heard him say this story twice and he is always exact and precise with his description of him being on Pacs left and Trayvon came to Pacs right and whispered n pacs right ear, simple,the only people who deny this and say Trey was talking to bunter etc are reggie wrong and treyvon himself,smh heres the vid of Frank saying this start from the 3minute mark czcams.com/video/kTJbvM8jY4Q/video.html also reggie wrights dad has confirmed on camera he knew Orlando from when he was a lil kid he knew his whole family etc, its Kida ironic that Pac fired reggie wrong a few days before the shooting and then Orlando appears out of no where, trey whispers ion his ear and pac attacks him...its all very suspect
Good point. Reggie is a crooked cop, so is his father it's not a stretch to say he could've played a role in all this.
And Frank said he heard "got em" through Reggie's radio around the time of the shooting, then a white guy saying not to talk over the radio
@@Fuq2 It wasn't Frank that heard "got em" . That was the other bodyguard with the walkie and his name is Michael Moore. He's dead as well.
Suge knew lane as well
Both in other videos he says orlando was the real deal and with that shit… now he saying nobody knew who orlando was
Let PAC Rest In Peace
While I agree, it’s the man’s channel he can talk about whatever he wants.
Still, I think we pretty much know who killed Tupac. There really ain’t nothing new to discuss.
Amen
Why you on here then if you tired of hearing about pac unsubscribe then..
Please
2pac is resting in peace...the nigga aint move a muscle in 25yrs
He’s Not Wrong! Nobody Wanna Talk About This But Blame Suge and His Security!!!
Suge is maybe not to blame but his security owner Reggie Wright Jr is. He is one of the people who orchastrated the hit on Pac
@@dalkurd1 PERIOD!
@DW International that's what I've been saying why ain't nobody talking about that
@@dalkurd1 SUgE is 1000 percent to blame be was trying to be a mob fufr over a business man
@@dalkurd1 facts. You see how buddy popped up in the comments lol.
Im a huge Pac fan, a solid back 2 back appreaciator. have to say this is pac’s fault, he is a man with a huge amout of intelligence and shouldn’t be menuplilated by no one. It sad but true. RIP pac ✌🏾❤️🌹
I agree, but Pac was so desperate to prove his loyalty to these guys(Suge and DR), it over took his way of thinking. I don't think he realized that by joining Death Row, it was initially joining a gang and you know what they say in gangs..."if you not with us, you against us" and by not wanting to seem like he's against them, he made a huge mistake and paid with his life.
@@waltergill1226 agree ✌🏾
@Ms Penny Isaac facts
@@waltergill1226 You have Me Myself and Irene soundtrack saved to your page. Why are you speaking? 😂😂💀
@@threedaysgracee8474 I took an international music class that stretched across multi-genres. That movie is one of my favorites and I heard a bunch of pieces that I used for an assignment where we were to blend or sample songs of different genre and make our own. Ironically enough, I blended a few of those songs with A bunch of tracks from me against the world. Prior to that class, all I listened to was hip hop and R&B and funk. At the end I listened to all types of ish which actually helped me because I had yet to meet a person where we wouldn't ride in a car together and enjoy an artist together.
They set the trap and Pac fell for it, his days were numbered in low digits due to his loyalty to DR.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
No one the man himself to blame for that ,trevon lane wasn’t Tupac family member
Pac should had been protected at all cost
The only person to blame for Pac’s death is Pac himself. You take responsibility for your own actions. He had a choice to let the real gangsters handle Orlando, but he made the opposite and above all, WRONG choice. We all live or die based on our choices. If you go out and punch an OG Crip, you’re gonna die right where you stand. Count on it. Orlando would’ve killed ANY of us on this thread no different than he killed Tupac if we put hands on him. There are just people that you don’t phuck with unless you’re on their level, and Orlando was a billion levels above Pac when it comes to street shit. Most of y’all respect rappers. Orlando had ZERO respect for rappers on a street level. He couldn’t let Tupac live after being attacked in that casino. He would’ve respected it more if the Bloods had beat him down without Pac joining in. He expects that. But he can’t let a rapper do no shit like that and get away with it. I wish Pac had made better choices that night.
100% facts
Lol OG crip. The niggas was they little homie, and he got gunned down just like pac. So who really wins in the end. All i see is lost children looking for a way to cope with reality. All these titles are illusions and can’t last the test of time.
@@lionblood1268 Baby Lane got smoked years later, but guess what? He took two other niggas with him. Why? Because he’s an actual gangster nigga. Y’all don’t listen. Orlando wasn’t nobody’s lil man…he was a full fledged head hitter under investigation for previous murders. Like I said…a young nigga who was already a well respected OG Crip. Know the damn difference between THAT and a goddamn rapper. 🙄
@@desertdetroiter428 titles like “rappers” and “OG crip” mean nothing in reality. You actually think being an “OG crip” means something in the real world. Rappers/Crips get stripped down by the police/ other niggas on the daily. What fairytale land does your mind live in where that shit really means Something. There is only flesh and blood in this world, nothing more nothing less. A square will blow your brains out quicker than “OG Crip/Rapper”. Wake up!
@@lionblood1268 I think what he's saying is that dudes who put in work in the hood you don't want to play with because they really lead those lives other dudes rap about.
He leave out the part that's spoken so much about Puffy offering money to Southside for those Death Row chains. Alot of people say that was going around in the streets. So if Orlando Anderson is looking for Death R9w chains because of Puffy, then that certainly was Pac's beef. That's why he felt so strong about going at Orlando I think.
From following this DR and Bad boy incident , coupled with what Napolean and Suge confirmed, Pac looked it as a bad boy situation. This bounty on the Death row chain plus the other stuff (NY, Jimmy henchman etc,) he took it as an attack on him. This was bigger than a "gang banging " situation. Diddy was something else on the low. I like Mob James forreal! But he did not like Pac nor did he know him like that. He said Pac spat on fans , but comes to find out it was hearsay and he never saw it with his eyes. Trayvon stated what James himself admitted: He was not messing with DR like that. Mob is right , Pac should have been better protected. Let's get to Keefe D now lol.
So now Suge & Napolean word is nothing but the truth right? Suge have told many lies about many things.
Keef d dat goat
There was no bountys lol that's the biggest lie conspiracy keefe already said nobody wanted those $300 chains u think someone gonna pay 10k for a 300 400 chain loool
@@htatesil4192 Why did they try to snatch Trayvons chain at that mall then? Keefe is the only one who stated that the bounty was a rumor but he has shown that he lies thru his teeth. As far the "little chains" Reggie already explained that. Ill let you research that lol.
@@chinoejio I really think yall brain washed by ex crooked cops 👮♂️ it's sad reggies a snitch idc what any one says he said he gave the feds back what 200k how is that possible also Reggie supports grape 🍇 street gangs in LA and in Memphis trafficking grape street crips are in Memphis too and they are dangerous Reggie sponsors these guys and only did 1 year in the feds he should of got 15-20 years read California laws on trafficking
His story has changed his past interview he said he was just there doing security and saw Southside and didn't say anything to anyone
Facts
On VladTv he said he saw them n alerted Bubntry n the whole club
🤔
Right this man include himself in everything embellishments out the air smh
Lies
The downfall of Tupac was that he was trying to prove himself to the MOB that he was ride or die. It's clear that he wanted to become part of the gang so I believe that was the reason why he went after Orlando. He knew the South Sides were the enemy of the MOB and what better way to get the approval of the others in the MOB than to go after the enemy? It's sad, but Tupac threw his life away trying to gang bang when he really wasn't about that life like the people who he was surrounded by.
ia think you dont understand what deathrow was.... YOU HAVE TOO BE FUCKING GANGSTA OR IF NOT YOUR GONNA BE THE ONE GET BEAT
he never tried to prove himself to MOB. this is a lie
@@UptownAlleyFashion He got a MOB tattoo like damn come on. "Money over bitches." Really?🤣
@@1990maman Yea he rapped about the meaning of MOB before he ever got with them bruh. stop trying too hard
@@UptownAlleyFashion Yeah yeah whatever
Tupac did what he did because he’s loyal and felt responsible for why death row members were getting attacked over death row chains. It was not a gang issue for Tupac.
Death row was ran like a gang
All this shit is linked back to Bad Boy simple as that. Pac heard of the bounty that was on the Death Row chain and if you’ve listen to Pac's music you would know how he felt about Biggie, Puffy, some New York rappers and War
real facts 💯 it was all planned
NO HE LOST THE BATTLE TO THE GOVERNMENT. WTF YOU TALKING BOUT.
Facts. If I spot some fool that tried to snatch my chain, I'm a rush him first!
What's crazy is I'm 48 years old now, LA native, 23 years old at the time, so I saw pretty much saw all the footage at the time this happened and there is absolutely no footage now of what I saw then of Trevon whispering to Pac. It was clear. Now it's gone. Now ask yourself , who has the power to wipe such an important clip from the entire net and why?
This sounds true,how would anyone else there know who Orlando was when Trevon was the only one from the mall that knew who he was. So if anything Trevon should have been the one to let off on Orlando since it was his fight,then the homies would have followed suit,but Trevon didnt do that. He legit had to have said that it was him.
Butterfly Effect!!! What if Pac never went to Quad Studios that night? The dominoe effect of that night man is crazy. Or if Suge never went to Atlanta to JD birthday party. Crazy …. 🤦🏾♂️
True but everything happens for a reason.
I personally think the subject has been beat to death but I will admit this Travyon Lane story is new to me.
If in fact that’s what happened that led to the altercation in Las Vegas, he is indirectly responsible for 2Pac‘s death. I don’t think it was conspiracy or set up. And I still stand by my statement in another post saying that 2Pac sealed his fate by even jump in Orlando Anderson. I understand being loyal, but I wish somebody would’ve pulled him to the side and had the hired guns in death row handle that situation.
U don't attack someone in a casino on probation pac knew better also the wonderful mgm shows us one angle and not what really happened they are hiding evidence there were cctv covering every angle of the lobby yet we only see pac attacking Orlando suge bountry neckbone tre pac we're all there if anybody gonna tell the story it would be them
Story was always that 2Pac approached Orlando & said “you from the South?”, & attacked immediately when Orlando confirmed it. So yeah 2Pac didn’t know what he looked like, but I believe he thought Treyvon being attacked was partially his fault & that he only got attacked because of the beef.
So 2Pac most likely looked at it as - you attacked my friend because of me, & now it’s time for the get back. It hindsight it was not smart, but I get the logic behind it…especially if he didn’t know Orlando already had a rep of gunning people down.
To me that would be an interesting question to ask Treyvon…if they all knew Orlando was a shooter before the MGM, or if they just thought he was a young guy who was fighting to settle issues.
Cuz retarded people refuse to listen to the dossier Reggie Wright is the murderer or both. All you have to do is listen to the dossier. Reggie Wright tells on his self.
@@azahrmalik2259 yepp James must be involved too covering shyt up with kading and Jr aka unc from grape street crip
@@htatesil4192 have u heard the dossier u can Google it if you can't find it on CZcams she cut it on herself. Both murders
Thx for breaking it down MOB J,it makes perfect sense,none of the other deathrow entourage really knows baby Lane like that and Tupac never know him either, so it has to be the guy that had problem with baby Lane to point him out to PAC ,case closed.
damn
Yeah Orlando just randomly appeared in a big ass casino it was setup man and there's no evidence keefe was even in Vegas that night just a lying ass confession yall still believing
@@htatesil4192 Not only did he appear, he was pointed out just standing there..and who goes to a casino just walking around by himself...but then again mob James said at the beginning that the Southside crips were saying they were gonna come to the casino and club 666 to start some shit so Pac must have known this cmon
Orlando was just a patsy
Yall gotta use yall brains 🧠 u think they would kill 2pac and then go party put the gun in the wheel and drive back to compton and drop the suppose rental off lol it don't work like that keefe lying but hey he can't sell drugs so he's just pushing this shyt for income the book shows keefe probably making a good 50k a year I could be wrong but yeah it's for money lol they taking advantage because suge not here its obvious lol everybody done came out lol they know better
We got everything we needed out of James 10 interviews ago.. he stretching his relevancy
Pac wasnt in his right state of mind that night. he was drinkin & lit that his homie Tyson beat dude in seconds, as Pac predicted in one of his final tracks he recorded for Mike. he was turnt up. as soon as he got to the lobby after the fight. these are two iconic, yet ironic quotes he said the night he was fatally shot
1) “EVERYBODY THAT GET OUT OF JAIL, GOT GOOD LUCK!”
2) “HEY HEY HEY! I JUST WON THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WORLD!”
which should tell you his energy after seeing Tyson fight 💯 so its possible Travon peeped that & took advantage by sendin Pac on a crash mission
Preach!
Puffy should be held accountable for all this
He put that money out there
James is an important point on remaining factual over involving feelings and impulsive decisions that were made. Story never changed.
So what Mob's basically telling us...2Pac should've stayed in his lane when Trevon Lane pointed out Baby Lane.
Been saying that for years trevon had told Pac about orlando anderson and i still feel the fight help stage the setup shooting.
In Suge Knight's Showtime documentary, even he says that Travon said something that riled Pac up. However, the internet know-it-alls say "don't believe the people that were actually there, believe the anonymous comment section and message boards instead" 😆
Remember what he said about the shooting. Trevon Lane and K Dub boxed Suge in at the light and he said Reggie's boys knew not to do that. It was a set up.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
#RIPPAC and dude shouldn’t have told Pac who Orlando was just like Mob said it wasn’t Pacs fight
Tupac still at fault easily influenced
Pac was a grown man who made his own choices. Real men don't blame others ,period...
That's not all the way true you're seeing it from a closed view, if someone lies to you that you believe in and it turns out to be false, the repercussions can catch you before an apology can be given
@@jhezy2000not hard to see that Tupac was wrong to punch an gangbanger with nothing to lose
@@cashgogetter6737 I agree, but let's be realistic, if that would've been a 40 year old pac it would've ended differently. He was only 24, so that testosterone took over
Pac loyal as a m***, loyal to the grave. Respect.
Loyal to what Ignorance and a facade of being tough..he wasnt even from L.A... You must be a teenager. He was a rapper and trained actor, never an L.A. Gang Member. He became disillusioned just like you.
@@1tarikross161 calm down there mr. CZcams commenter. You’re just a fan, sit down please and watch tupac stories.
@@1tarikross161 and here you are talking about him💀💀💀💀💀
Can someone please answer this question..Why was Orlando there in the lobby by himself and he rolled with a gang?
Keefe said he went to the restroom
The group got separated at the fight. That was the meet up spot.
It was a setup
Setup
Orlando’s crew had to scalp tickets to the fight at the last minute. The tickets they got were not in the same row/area. They didn’t sit together & they didn’t exit the arena into the lobby together.
No one to blame but Tupac himself! Hot-headed and didn't always think through his actions before doing them. The truth! Even your hero has flaws.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
I’ll take the blame for that- rod wave
If Orlando was no killer , otherwise they wouldn't have packed him out like that without getting on high alert right after
Bro somebody who is not a killer won't just kill a huge celebrity like pac on a busy street in vegas literally a few hours after the incident takes place it takes someone who is no stranger to blasting people to do that
@@tdltv8381 Orlando was no killer so you're right lol 🤣 nobody knew Orlando except Trey so that means Orlando wasn't a killer and even if trey knew he was a shooter they would've been on point afterwards ,they were relaxed as if they just beat up a nobody
@@ddubentertainment7594 at the end of the day it was their fault for not knowing who orlando was because pac got slumped a few hours later it is what it is
@@ddubentertainment7594 I mean even the compton gang unit said that orlando was dangerous robert ladd even said that orlando was a ruthless killer so take it how you want it I guess
@@recford_3650 two of the dirtiest cops 😂🤣 but yet they couldn't pin anything on him 🤦🏿♂️😂 do you honestly believe what you're typing,sit back and honestly think about it ,in what world is that a reality , outside of the mafia
As much love as I got for Tupac it's not Trevon fault Pac was a GROWN man with his own mind simple
Dude shut up
Ohh Mr. James came with the truth. 💯 @5:50 --- That part.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
Wrong...2pac should be blamed for 2pac's death.
*They were all walking basically in a huddle Trayvon didn't Point him out to Tupac he pointing him out to the crew TUPACS was just the first to take off point blank period*
How do you know? Were you there?
@@kilos4058 Am telling u,FRank Alexander who was there said this, watch from 3minute mark, he said Trayvon came directly and whispered in Pacs left ear smh and this guy talking like he knows some shit smh czcams.com/video/kTJbvM8jY4Q/video.html
Yes I was there
@@itsmoneyoverbitches then you're a liar because Frank couldn't hear what he said
Real talk. James is a real dude. Dude put a battery in Pac’s back. And once again Suge had these type of dudes around the money (Pac) and his label of business. 🤦🏾♂️
So basically Mob James words didn't whole any weight with his ppl because they looked at him like a alcoholic
nah they were ignorant and couldn't hear him...he seems to be doing good living versus pushing up daisies..
Facts
You can be an alcoholic and have more sense in serious situations than others. But I can see y they would be hesitant to listen
They can say whatever they want about mobb james , out of all the interviews of people involved in the deathrow saga he has been the most accurate and truthful individual. People don’t like the truth so they going to make a movie with added scenes. Mob is the truth.
I am a 40 year old white dude that wears deck shoes, has a labradoodle, enjoys sailing and scones, and has a well paying management position in a very safe canadian city. Yet I find myself curiously drawn to the thug life.
Art, reach out to Trevon Lane. Ask that Brotha for a interview. Don’t have to be all the crazy-serious questions.Get him on there talk to him about life,some Pac friendship questions,Etc. And leave it at that.
I concur… PAC was dealing with Big Syke way before Death Row
Eric Curtis, Pac was dealing with a lot of other gangsters mainly Crips prior to Death Row. He didn't just start wilding out, he was doing this prior to Death Row, so you can't go backwards as people like to, if you're already doing these things
If someone put the battery in my back about ANYTHING, it’s solely up to me to decide what imma do next and I have to deal with the consequences of MY actions. I can’t blame the next man for that.
Tupac was easily influenced that night an it cost
“Thank god for granting me this moment of clarity, this moment of honesty, the world will feel my truth….” Jay Z Moment of Clarity
Regardless of what you think of James, he literally gave you something to think about there. Trey could've gone to buntry or neck like he said but dude went to 2pac.
Apparently Neckbone was killed for knowing things about the shooting
Tupac was a "Get Wit". Every crew or neighborhood has at least one. Easily manipulated and loyal than a motha to the wrong people. Too powerful to understand your worth and value. Rest in peacefulness, Tupac
Mob James > Charleston white
Facts Orlando was by his self trevon was supposed to handle that his self
Bro in a casino nobody is stupid enough too assault someone in a casino on parole that's straight back to prison something odd happened that night we are not getting the truth
How do you know this guy was on parole. If he was what was he doing in Vegas? If somebody tried to jump me while with they friends then I catch that person 1 on 1 we gotta get down I don’t care where we at. So instead I run to the homies which result in suge going to jail pac getting killed gtfoh
I like James but this is a dumb take. Trayvon didn’t force Pac to do anything and I would bet his intention was never to get Pac to physically confront Orlando. Pac was wild and unpredictable. He used to ditch his own bodyguards/security.
Did you really listen to the interview. Trayvon knew what type of person Tupac was. Trayvon should have told the homes about that. Thats Street rules.
You absolutely correct Coma
@@kilos4058 that's what Trevon did according to Trevontold his homies the whispering in his ear Trevon always denied
You really don't understand Trayvon shouldn't have said anything to Pac. Trayvon had to told suge he's the boss pac had nothing to do with it and because of trevon stupid ass tupac is dead
@@kilos4058 yes I did and we don’t know if the whole whisper in PAC’s ear thing is true. Pac may have just been closest to Trayvon when he said it. In the heat of the moment you can’t predict what happens and Pac is ultimately responsible for his own actions. Do you really think Trayvon said “There’s the guy that tried to jump me, you should go sock him” ? Even if he did, Pac is still responsible for what Pac does.
You gotta get a Trevon Lane Interview before Vlad Does.
4:41 this nigga Mob James got ventriloquist skills, lol.
So they knew baby lane was gonna be there?! Wow 😳, so that's how they pointed baby lane out! I used to Wonder 🤔 how he got there.
Where’s the footage of Treyvon at the mgm? I don’t recall seeing him in the fight either.
lol what?
@@clayne10
They keep saying Treyvon was in Pac’s ear but there’s no footage of him. Even when they came out the Tyson fight he’s not seen
He is, watch part 7 i think of the deep dive video vladtv put out you see him get a little kick in on orlando but the rest of the dudes take charge and once the beatdown is over you see tray take his hat off & neckbone gives him a friendly jab on the shoulder
@@eddy2oo6
I believe that was Buntry who took his hat off but I’ll check it out
@@MrEclay2 it is buntry
Tupac had a short time at Death Row
8 or 9 months?
Daaamnn
Yea he didn’t really make a year honestly. Released from prison October’95 and we all know what happened less than a year later 🙏🏼
That's exactly why he should've fell back and observed how messy DR was
@@Sunset-oz4rf
Of course he should have, but at the age he was we've done stupid stuff and only by the grace of God we got out of a hairy situation without any physical damage
@@airborne8580 at 25 i was way past doing dumb shit.
@@Sunset-oz4rf
Good for you
I was just talking about the other unfortunate souls
Frank Alexander should have Taken 2 PAC out of that trouble.
Pac should have taken himself out of that trouble, blaming everyone put Pac for Pac on actions.
ART...there's TWO questions that is a must.....
1. What ever happened to d TUPAC DOUBLE at the Casino in Vegas who TUPAC actually waved at???
2. And what's up with that scar that we see on TUPAC's face that we seen in MANY pics...even when he got arrested. But then we NEVER see d scar again. (I always thought d scar on his face was part of a movie...but that same scar would pop up on his face on occasion.
People like to talk about a bounty on the death row chains but ignore that Trevon and Orlando had history I've said from the start that all the blame of this falls on Trevon this incident shouldnt have even happened 🤷🏿♂️
Pac’s death falls on Pac alone. Orlando was a hardcore Crip and a known murderer who put in that work! A REAL gangster. They don’t respect rappers. When Pac put hands on Orlando, he had to die. No one else can be blamed.
@@desertdetroiter428 I know that and I agree Pac got himself killed but im just saying people tried to blame the false chain bounty when in reality it was a Blood vs Crip thing
pac didnt have to get himself
involved at all tho straight up it wasnt his fight u cant even deny that
Yea why didn’t Tre take off from the gate he had to get Tupac smh crazy it’s sad.
4:38... did James just bust a massive fart??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The ONLY thing ANYONE has complete control of in THIS ENTIRE WORLD 🌎🌍🌍! Is your volition. YOUR WILL. Tupac reacted, regardless of his INFLUENCES or the contributing FACTORS that transpired.💯🙏🏾🙏🙏🏾🙏🌎🌎🌍🌎❣️💐🌷🌹🌻👏👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌
Moral of the story,
There are people in this world who don't care about celebrity, status or anything else because they are predators. Every hood has people who live to die, their focus is death, mayhem and chaos. Unfortunatrly TuPac got caught up in some street beef, not even his own, but deadly nonetheless.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
Things that make you go 🤔... You get jumped by some crips, then you see one of the dudes that jumped you and instead of handling your business you run past Bountry, Neckbone etc (Bloods) and run to 2Pac whom is not gang affiliated🤔...Orlando gets jumped by Pac and DR, later comes back and shoots into the car "killing" Pac and grazing Suge and nobody in the 10 plus car entourage was able to catch them🤔.... Orlando THEN comes to court and testifies on Suge's behalf to keep him from going to prison. The same Suge that considered Pac as a little brother and could have possibly also been "killed" in the car right along Pac🤔.... Sounds like misdirection to me and Travon Lane was a part of it. Oh BTW, Baby Lane walked the streets of Compton for 2 years after Pac "died" and was killed over something that had nothing to do with that particular incident.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
I'm still trippin about when James said he smacked CW on the butt yesterday 🤣🤣
Lmao!
Tbh. Weather you agree or disagree with everything Mob James has said lately or not. But, what he saying here makes a lot of sense. Everything he said before that incident occurred and the aftermath seems to be on par here.
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!
*yall can't put Tupacs death on that dude*
In the 90's wild shit happened all the time..
@@htatesil4192 I don't know what your meaning to say
Thank you MOB James Tupac Shakur fans finally have Closure after 20 plus yrs 🥲
If bad boy was paying gangs snatch chains it was because of Pac. and gang member keefe said they were given a gun that came from a police locker and offered a mil to assassinate him that night. Pac said "I'm a walking dead man if I go to Vegas tonight!" Cops said show up or go back to prison on a violation of your parole. You must perform at club 662!