22s for some reason have been having engine failure at the 100 k mark. It got something to do with the emission equipment that was changed. It’s seriously a problem
I had a 2014 2500 megacab longhorn and a 40' 5th wheel. Backing the trailer I always worried about kissing the cab. I turned a sharp curve in the trailer park and the left trailer wheels went off the road. Good will helpers, back it up back it up, cut it more. As I yelled out it's as FA- never got the R to FAR out- crunch. Kissed the truck cab on the driver side. Managed to get out of the rut, only a big dent in the truck. I eventually traded it for a 2018 megacab 2500, thought a slider in the bed would be better - I really didn't like that either- I was again worrying about turns and wasn't comfortable with the slider to the back. I sold the trailer aug'22 and really like my truck without messing with the trailer. Add it just has 11,262 miles in today's market I'm more pleased. Enjoy your new truck, I look forward to more videos on it.
You will probably find that the Mega Cab cuts into payload as well it will be a challenge with a 5th wheel and proximity to the cab. The longbed would make maneuvering the 5th wheel much easier as well as provide more payload. And of course, the dually will make it all much more comfortable to tow with.
Yep 100 percent right. The direction I wanna go is gonna be an all aluminum gooseneck enclosed race trailer with a tapered nose. It’ll give me the clearance with a mega cab with no issues and I’ll be able to keep it a bit lighter and have no issues at all with payload even at 17 to 18k pounds with the trailer (which I doubt I’ll get to). If I could have two trucks id have a mega cab and a dually long bed 😂😂
If you are towing, you might as well get a 5500 chassis cab limited. Bigger payload. You don't need a H.O. Cummins to tow like 34k. Also you got a better turning radius. You can put a body on the back more amicable to how you are using the truck. They payload in the back is like 10k.
There is literally no good reason to trade in a brand new truck for another brand new truck for something really minor. This is a part of the reason truck prices are insane
Mega cab is fine. You may have to add a sidewinder or adjust the trailer and set up so it won’t contact the cab. It’s the same wheel base as the long bed so stability wise it’s the same. Dually would be nice.
Yeah we’ll see what I end up with and go from there. The trailer I’m looking at has a tapered nose, as well as the pin being alllll the way in the front of the trailer with no over hang at all so clearance may be no issue at all
2500 shouldn't even have a diesel option, it gimps it's payload to much, you end up with a payload just barley above a 1500 after fuel and people. It is a useless configuration unless you are making a Bro Dozer Mall Crawler.
Same boat mostly. Had a 21' 3500 HO Aisin but it had a CP4 so i sold it before it failed, Got a 22 2500 because I thought I wanted a smoother ride and shifting transmission 68RFE. Now I want a 23 3500 HO Aisin so I can tow a gooseneck. Cant decide between a Laramie or Limited.
And it's nuts by the time you spec out a Laramie it's the same as a limited when you add most of the features. I think a night edition Laramie the same or more than my limited longhorn
Agreed. If you're gonna tow often and need diesel power might as well go with the 3500. I have a 2500 gasser, works well for my set up. You may want to rethink the short bed with the megacab on the 3500. Many short beds have issues with 5th wheels / gooseneck. Another plus for the long bed is the 50 gallon tank option.
Aisins in the 2022 trucks are failing due to a bad snap ring. They are losing all forward gears and leaving you with reverse only. Have you looked into if they have corrected this with current Aisin production? The failure is due to getting the snap rings from a different supplier that doesn’t seat perfectly in the transmission.
Only knock on the HO is I have heard there is 20 percent decrease in fuel economy. Maybe not a big deal to some. But with the price of diesel fuel that would be significant for me. Otherwise sounds like you did your homework. Thanks for the update.
Yeah I’m not looking forward to that mpg loss that’s for sure. But it’s a super stout trans and the re sale is def there on the back end. I’ll be making plenty of videos as well with MPG comparisons for sure
My 22 ho dually gets 14 city 19.5 highway .. 4x4 crew cab 373 rear . It's a big horn with sport package so pay load is lil over 5200 lbs.. also have 50 gal tank
Is suppose to come in 2 or 3 weeks actually so about 4.5 months. But there is a stop sale recall going on right now so if it comes I can't even buy it anyway
If you're pulling that much trailer you're gonna want a dually and you're not gonna want a Mega cab you're gonna want a crew cab with the full length bed or you're gonna have problems with your trailer and the cab. The difference is on your new truck you're going to ask the trailer where to go if you got a daully with a full length bed and a 4 door you're going to tell the trailer where you want it to go
Only reason I didn’t order what you just said was I daily drive these trucks and I just didn’t want a dually for everyday empty driving. 95 percent chance I’m going to get a tapered nose gooseneck race trailer (all aluminum) which won’t have any interference with the short bed. Your right on tho, can’t beat the stability and authority of a dually
Just ordered my 2023 2500 longhorn at the end of November. Its my First time ordering a truck, i was just wondering did you negotiate the price when you were building the truck or did you wait till the truck arrived? I have people telling me I'm stupid to try negotiating on a custom ordered truck so just curious on when you negotiated price.
I love this question. So this is my second Ram truck spec order and will be my third truck purchase in the last year so hopefully this’ll be helpful. Both orders I did not give them a penny until I had a signed document by the dealer and myself on a price for the truck. Dealers have more discount incentive on ordered trucks vs off the lot trucks so your best chance of getting a large chunk knocked off that truck. I LOVE negotiating and I’d like to say I’m good at it. I was able to get my 2023 ordered at employee pricing plus about a 1000 which is not much more than the dealers invoice for the truck. So yeah don’t listen to others, absolutely negotiate prior to order placement it’s an amazing way to get a good deal on the exact truck YOU want if your not in a rush to get the truck for a few months. Hopefully that helped!
@Just Truck'n Around Yes this helps alot. The company I work with gets the preferred pricing through Ram already so I was able to get that on my order but I still think I might try to get a little more off the price since I too enjoy negotiating! Anyways thanks again for the information!
Ford guy here looking to go with a RAM. I'm getting quoted $69,500 for a Tradesman 3500. High Output, 4x4, CrewCab, 8' bed, single rear-wheel. A few extras like cab clearance lights, factory bedliner, trailer brake controller, up fitter switches, 50 gallon fuel tank, etc. Can I get a better price? Sounds like a lot for a stripped down truck.
@@JakesTruckandTrailers MSRP = $72,490. I definitely would aim for a lower price. I never have paid asking price for a vehicle yet. I just have to decide if the RAM is what I want. Looked at GMC and they cannot get me a comparable truck. I like the H.O. in the RAM. Whatever I buy is going to regularly have a trailer behind. I’m not really sold on any of the big three. I wish I could have the Ford truck with the HO Cummins / Aisin trans at the GM price.
I salute your success. A true achievement for a guy in his twenties to drop $100k on a vehicle and not have any qualms about the cost.
Thank you I appreciate it!
Brother I've never have nor will see a truck I'd give a 100 k for ! That's crazy !!
22s for some reason have been having engine failure at the 100 k mark. It got something to do with the emission equipment that was changed. It’s seriously a problem
I had a 2014 2500 megacab longhorn and a 40' 5th wheel. Backing the trailer I always worried about kissing the cab. I turned a sharp curve in the trailer park and the left trailer wheels went off the road. Good will helpers, back it up back it up, cut it more. As I yelled out it's as FA- never got the R to FAR out- crunch. Kissed the truck cab on the driver side. Managed to get out of the rut, only a big dent in the truck. I eventually traded it for a 2018 megacab 2500, thought a slider in the bed would be better - I really didn't like that either- I was again worrying about turns and wasn't comfortable with the slider to the back. I sold the trailer aug'22 and really like my truck without messing with the trailer. Add it just has 11,262 miles in today's market I'm more pleased. Enjoy your new truck, I look forward to more videos on it.
You will probably find that the Mega Cab cuts into payload as well it will be a challenge with a 5th wheel and proximity to the cab. The longbed would make maneuvering the 5th wheel much easier as well as provide more payload. And of course, the dually will make it all much more comfortable to tow with.
Yep 100 percent right. The direction I wanna go is gonna be an all aluminum gooseneck enclosed race trailer with a tapered nose. It’ll give me the clearance with a mega cab with no issues and I’ll be able to keep it a bit lighter and have no issues at all with payload even at 17 to 18k pounds with the trailer (which I doubt I’ll get to). If I could have two trucks id have a mega cab and a dually long bed 😂😂
If you are towing, you might as well get a 5500 chassis cab limited. Bigger payload. You don't need a H.O. Cummins to tow like 34k. Also you got a better turning radius. You can put a body on the back more amicable to how you are using the truck. They payload in the back is like 10k.
I gotta a 2018 3500 Larimie dually HO no mega cab, they drastically cut into payload and towing capacity.
You ordered a 2023, but the configurator you where using in the video, was the 2022 configurator.
2500 can pull a gooseneck no problem. There's hotshots pulling 40ft trailers all day with 2500s
Just because the Cummins is fully capable doesn’t mean it should. Gotta pay attention to the numbers.
The 22' 3500 Limited I had was MSRP 91k. Building a 23' same options it went up about $10k to just over $101k.
No kidding I wonder how mine was no different and yours was 10k more than a 22
You’re going to want the Safety Group option so you’ll have auto start/stop cruise control. When towing it’s a great option.
Track day guy here. Looking to get a 3500 SRW HO also. Subscribed.
AY sweet!
Air ride on my 21 drw was ok. If getting a big trailer should have got a dually
There is literally no good reason to trade in a brand new truck for another brand new truck for something really minor. This is a part of the reason truck prices are insane
Mega cab is fine. You may have to add a sidewinder or adjust the trailer and set up so it won’t contact the cab. It’s the same wheel base as the long bed so stability wise it’s the same. Dually would be nice.
Yeah we’ll see what I end up with and go from there. The trailer I’m looking at has a tapered nose, as well as the pin being alllll the way in the front of the trailer with no over hang at all so clearance may be no issue at all
2500 shouldn't even have a diesel option, it gimps it's payload to much, you end up with a payload just barley above a 1500 after fuel and people. It is a useless configuration unless you are making a Bro Dozer Mall Crawler.
Solid choices. Good luck. (2018 6.7L SWB 4x4 ~ So far so good) except MPG is only 15 or so empty/city.
Hope it goes well.
I pulled 16000 pads including my trailer weight all day long no problem with a fifth wheel trailer
Same boat mostly. Had a 21' 3500 HO Aisin but it had a CP4 so i sold it before it failed, Got a 22 2500 because I thought I wanted a smoother ride and shifting transmission 68RFE. Now I want a 23 3500 HO Aisin so I can tow a gooseneck. Cant decide between a Laramie or Limited.
What's your experience been with 68rfe vs HO Aisin??
And it's nuts by the time you spec out a Laramie it's the same as a limited when you add most of the features. I think a night edition Laramie the same or more than my limited longhorn
I’m in this same boat. Don’t know if I want Limited or loaded Laramie. Either way, I refuse to get a 2500. I want the lead springs and the HO.
Towing with coil springs in the rear is a non starter.
Agreed. If you're gonna tow often and need diesel power might as well go with the 3500. I have a 2500 gasser, works well for my set up.
You may want to rethink the short bed with the megacab on the 3500. Many short beds have issues with 5th wheels / gooseneck. Another plus for the long bed is the 50 gallon tank option.
Aisins in the 2022 trucks are failing due to a bad snap ring. They are losing all forward gears and leaving you with reverse only. Have you looked into if they have corrected this with current Aisin production? The failure is due to getting the snap rings from a different supplier that doesn’t seat perfectly in the transmission.
Only knock on the HO is I have heard there is 20 percent decrease in fuel economy. Maybe not a big deal to some. But with the price of diesel fuel that would be significant for me.
Otherwise sounds like you did your homework. Thanks for the update.
Yeah I’m not looking forward to that mpg loss that’s for sure. But it’s a super stout trans and the re sale is def there on the back end. I’ll be making plenty of videos as well with MPG comparisons for sure
My 22 ho dually gets 14 city 19.5 highway .. 4x4 crew cab 373 rear . It's a big horn with sport package so pay load is lil over 5200 lbs.. also have 50 gal tank
@@toddfrost3019 are you calculating your fuel economy with that lie-o-meter?
@@toddfrost3019 if you calculate your economy by hand it’s not getting 19.5.
Plus the 68 RFE is outdated
With the 101, 000 MSRP, what did you end up getting that for?
So far I negotiated 6k off the MSRP
Just curious how far out till you think you'll get your truck. I am thinking about doing the same and ordering mine, but I don't wanna wait a year
Is suppose to come in 2 or 3 weeks actually so about 4.5 months. But there is a stop sale recall going on right now so if it comes I can't even buy it anyway
If you're pulling that much trailer you're gonna want a dually and you're not gonna want a Mega cab you're gonna want a crew cab with the full length bed or you're gonna have problems with your trailer and the cab. The difference is on your new truck you're going to ask the trailer where to go if you got a daully with a full length bed and a 4 door you're going to tell the trailer where you want it to go
Only reason I didn’t order what you just said was I daily drive these trucks and I just didn’t want a dually for everyday empty driving. 95 percent chance I’m going to get a tapered nose gooseneck race trailer (all aluminum) which won’t have any interference with the short bed. Your right on tho, can’t beat the stability and authority of a dually
Just ordered my 2023 2500 longhorn at the end of November. Its my First time ordering a truck, i was just wondering did you negotiate the price when you were building the truck or did you wait till the truck arrived? I have people telling me I'm stupid to try negotiating on a custom ordered truck so just curious on when you negotiated price.
I love this question. So this is my second Ram truck spec order and will be my third truck purchase in the last year so hopefully this’ll be helpful. Both orders I did not give them a penny until I had a signed document by the dealer and myself on a price for the truck. Dealers have more discount incentive on ordered trucks vs off the lot trucks so your best chance of getting a large chunk knocked off that truck. I LOVE negotiating and I’d like to say I’m good at it. I was able to get my 2023 ordered at employee pricing plus about a 1000 which is not much more than the dealers invoice for the truck. So yeah don’t listen to others, absolutely negotiate prior to order placement it’s an amazing way to get a good deal on the exact truck YOU want if your not in a rush to get the truck for a few months. Hopefully that helped!
@Just Truck'n Around Yes this helps alot. The company I work with gets the preferred pricing through Ram already so I was able to get that on my order but I still think I might try to get a little more off the price since I too enjoy negotiating! Anyways thanks again for the information!
@@Haeusler199 no problem any more questions shoot me a message / comment or whatever and I’ll be happy to try and he’ll
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@@JakesTruckandTrailers Any word on the status of your build?
Megacab for the win
On average 10% of trailer weight is on truck. Is your 5th wheel over 20000lb?
Still looking for a Laramie night edition mega cab
So what did you end up paying? Did they come off 10% or more?
Nah they came off 6 percent for me
I wish 10 percent lol
I'm looking that helps me thanks. 6% off is alot better than the last couple years.
I bought 2022 3500 for that reason
Is it a mega cab or a long bed?
You might want to check out jb reviews video about a bed camper breaking a ram 3500 in half it just came out not good
Yup I sure saw it lol
Guess I should’ve ordered a ford aye?
2023 has better mirrors dash guages
My 2022 3500 msrp 92,740
Air bag system
Ram i miss you please came my lift
52 gallon fuel tank
2000 lbs???? For a 2500?😂
Ford guy here looking to go with a RAM. I'm getting quoted $69,500 for a Tradesman 3500. High Output, 4x4, CrewCab, 8' bed, single rear-wheel. A few extras like cab clearance lights, factory bedliner, trailer brake controller, up fitter switches, 50 gallon fuel tank, etc. Can I get a better price? Sounds like a lot for a stripped down truck.
Honestly sounds about on par with the pricing. You can always fight for more is my mentality. Was the the MSRP of the truck?
@@JakesTruckandTrailers MSRP = $72,490. I definitely would aim for a lower price. I never have paid asking price for a vehicle yet. I just have to decide if the RAM is what I want. Looked at GMC and they cannot get me a comparable truck. I like the H.O. in the RAM. Whatever I buy is going to regularly have a trailer behind. I’m not really sold on any of the big three. I wish I could have the Ford truck with the HO Cummins / Aisin trans at the GM price.
You didn't do yourself any favors ordering a mega cab single rear wheel if you're building a tow rig.