Find the Area (with graphing)

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  • čas přidán 22. 12. 2023
  • Hey guys, I wanted to show how you can use graphing to solve some equations. I hope you guys like it!

Komentáře • 144

  • @1milliondogs
    @1milliondogs Před 6 měsíci +73

    I'm almost certainly never going to need to know how to do this. Yet...I can't stop watching these videos!

  • @TheAvgZombieKillers
    @TheAvgZombieKillers Před 6 měsíci +64

    Bro, how you gona not hit us with the "How Exciting?!"

  • @jimmyh1139
    @jimmyh1139 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I found a pretty pretty easy solution:
    The big white triangle, and the small white triangle on the right among the two small white triangles, have bases of the same length. Therefore the ratio of their areas is the same as the ratio of their heights.
    Label their bases y. Label the height of the small white triangle to the right x.
    Then the height of the big white triangle is (48/18)x=(8/3)x.
    Now we can write the lengths of the sides of the small white triangle to the left in terms of x and y:
    the left side is y-(8/3)x and the top side is y-x.
    The area of said triangle:
    (y-(8/3)x)(y-x)/2=18
    The area of the small white triangle on the right:
    yx/2=18.
    We can now isolate x in terms of y to solve the top equation: x=36/y.
    Solving said equation with rudimentary algebra we get y^2=144, which is the area of the square.
    Therefore, the area of the red triangle is 144-(48+18+18)=60.

  • @umariqbal7557
    @umariqbal7557 Před 6 měsíci +109

    These problems with straightforward answers but long ones are pretty amazing and interesting. I also want to ask whether you know how to use matrices to solve multi-variable(3+) systems of equations.
    Edit: Thank you all for replying to my comment. I kind of forgot some of the restrictions matrices have when it comes to solving systems and your comments have led me to review some of them.

    • @grim-reaper-2168
      @grim-reaper-2168 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Search up Gaussian elimination and row reduction, it’s the name of the process used to solve equations with matrices

    • @AmazinCris
      @AmazinCris Před 6 měsíci +4

      how could you use matrices to solve the system of equations introduced this particular problem 2:43 ? i haven't seen cases where 2 variables like x and y are being multiplied together.

    • @abhinavanand9032
      @abhinavanand9032 Před 6 měsíci

      @@AmazinCris xy is not linear

    • @AmazinCris
      @AmazinCris Před 6 měsíci

      that would mean you can't use matrices here right?@@abhinavanand9032

    • @and_rotate69
      @and_rotate69 Před 5 měsíci +1

      u cant do that with non-linear equations like the 3rd one i think

  • @tommy-ij9nd
    @tommy-ij9nd Před 6 měsíci +21

    You have an amazing teaching style…positive, simple, entertaining. I grew up hating math though at 65 years old I still marvel at how cool and useful it can be. I wish I would have had you as a teacher growing up. In school teachers always seemed to cater to and praise the students that just “got it” as if that was going to motivate the rest of us to do better. What I hated about math the most was that it seemed so boring as a kid. Take some numbers, feed them into some equation and you got some other number pooped out the other side. I didn’t understand trigonometry until I got into college and took a physics class and found out the hard way you needed that to solve vector equations. I was so thrilled to find an actual use for it that I almost took on a physics minor. I subscribed because although a lot of my basic math is buried under years of Biology training I find it entertaining to see how you find solutions and your easy going nature reduces my anxiety at not remembering all the basic geometry, etc as I should. Thanks for taking the time to put these videos out there!

  • @lmarmisa
    @lmarmisa Před 6 měsíci +27

    I defined only 3 variables: S (the side of the square, really the only value we need); x (your x); y (your w). Then 3 equations. I got a biquadratic equation for S. S1=12 and S2=4 (rejected because x & y are negative). Finally A = 60 m^2. Very nice problem. Thanks a lot.

  • @starcaptainyork
    @starcaptainyork Před 6 měsíci +44

    96=z*(x+y)
    36=y*(w+z)
    36=w*x
    (w=z)=(x+y) so lets call that "S" for "Side length of the square"
    z*S=96
    y*S=36
    96/36=(z*S)/(y*S)
    and then we can eliminate "S" leaving:
    96/36=z/y
    This gives us the ratio 8/3=z/y, coincidentally 8 and 3 are also their actual values. Just plug them into z and y and the rest comes easy.
    Love you're channel by the way, keep it up👍

  • @somebody700
    @somebody700 Před 6 měsíci +28

    There is a faster one of doing this, where you don't actually need to determine any of the partial distances.
    Edit: in my equations, y is the square side (we know it's a square because the question states it), x is the height of the biggest known triangle, z is the height of the triangle on top right. The rest is self explanatory.
    (1) xy = 96 --> x = 96/y
    (2) zy = 36 --> y = 36/y
    (3) (y-x)(y-z) = 36
    From those three, you substitute (1) and (2) into (3) after expanding it and you will get:
    y2 - zy - xy - xz = 36
    y2 + 3456/y2 = 168
    y4 - 168y2 + 3456 = 0
    (y2 - 144)(y2 - 24) = 0
    y2 = 144 (we discard y2 = 24 because y2 is the total area and we know it's equal to 48+18+18+red)
    Red area = y2 - 48 - 18 - 18 = 144 - 84 = 60.
    The question never asked you to determine every dimension of the shapes, all it asked was the red area, and it's the total area minus the 3 known ones. So all you need to calculate is total area.

    • @pedroamaral7407
      @pedroamaral7407 Před 5 měsíci

      He solved this one with it: czcams.com/video/w6TVJVQSIPU/video.html

    • @adrianpinder9897
      @adrianpinder9897 Před 5 měsíci +1

      You have some typos here and there but you are right

    • @tunneloflight
      @tunneloflight Před 5 měsíci +1

      Exactly right. Also, once you have y^2 = 144, all of the rest fall out. If you do all of the expansions, you end up solving a binomial in y^2 to reach the same points. I did that before realizing the symmetry's and not needing the intermediate answers, which took me to your solution. Duh.

  • @brucearling9468
    @brucearling9468 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I always love watching these video's. I was pretty good at math in highschool but all of this is too complicated for me but I love watching how you get to the answer!

  • @GirishManjunathMusic
    @GirishManjunathMusic Před 6 měsíci +7

    taking
    the side length of the square as a,
    the height of the 48m² triangle as b,
    the height of the 18m² triangle on the left as c,
    the base of the same as d, and
    the base of the other 18m² triangle as e:
    b + c = d + e = a.
    ½ab = 48
    ½cd = 18
    ½ae = 18
    This is a system in 5 variables of 5 equations: it is technially solvable.
    b + c = a,
    b = a - c
    ½a(a - c) = 48
    a² - ac = 96
    ac = a² - 96
    c = (a² - 96)/a
    d + e = a
    e = a - d
    ½a(a - d) = 18
    a² - ad = 36
    ad = a² - 36
    d = (a² - 36)/a
    ½cd = 18
    cd = 36
    (a² - 96)(a² - 36)/a² = 36
    This is a quadratic equation in a², substituting a² = z
    (z - 96)(z - 36) = 36z
    z² - 132z + 3456 = 36z
    z² - 168z + 3456 = 0
    z² - 144z - 24z + 3456 = 0
    z(z - 144) - 24(z - 144) = 0
    z = 24 or z = 144
    However, as z is also the area of the square, it has to be greater than 48 + 18 + 18 = 84, therefore z = 24 is extraneous.
    Therefore taking z = 144:
    area of the red triangle is area of square - area of three white triangles:
    Area = z - 84 = 144 - 84 = 60 square meters.

  • @44ThaNatos44
    @44ThaNatos44 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Thank you so much for your content. It's perfect for a refresh after my lazy brain got rid of the logic for so long. Happy holidays !

  • @MufaddalMansoor_913
    @MufaddalMansoor_913 Před 6 měsíci

    Man, never stop uploading, ur amazing ! keep it up!

  • @supermax64
    @supermax64 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Comparing the factors of 96 and 36 gets you the side of the square = 12 relatively easy.
    The "upper" factors of 36 are 9 and 12 (since we're looking for the longer side) and only 12 is a factor of 96.

    • @chrisc6468
      @chrisc6468 Před 6 měsíci +4

      this assumes that the side lengths are integers, which we were not told at the start.

    • @TadRichard
      @TadRichard Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@chrisc6468 Yeah, but even though the question didn't state the values were integers, it's worth trying integers first -- especially if the question is on a timed test.
      Similarly, you should always try multiples of 3, 4, 5 and 5, 12, 13 when you see a right triangle.

    • @Zanxos
      @Zanxos Před 2 měsíci

      I solved it this way too and it's easy to check your answer by checking the triangle sides having the side of the square defined as 12.

  • @rg7729
    @rg7729 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Coming from a non-math guy, i have found your videos very stimulating! U have my subscription! I am proud to say i got this one on my own (i usually cant lol).
    Not as elegant as how u did it. Starting with the bottome left triangle: created a table of all possible multiples of the area 48x2=(96). Based on the visual proportions of the triangle, only 8x12 seemed correct.
    Knowing the base was 12 i subtracted it by 8 to find the height of the top left triangle (4).
    With the top left triangle height and area, its width came out to 9.
    Next i used 9+x=the known length of the square (12) and got 3.
    Now that i knew all the triangle lengths added up and were true to the square, i used area of all the triangles and subtracted them from the area of the square (144) and got 60!

  • @user-el9xu5jm9i
    @user-el9xu5jm9i Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi Andy, I think this one can be solved quickly through simple symmetry observations:
    Construction: Take a big square and include one diagonal with divides it into two equal triangles. Now pick two random points A and B on this diagonal and draw 2x 2 lines parallel to the sides of our square through these points. This leads to 3 smaller squares and 2x3 rectangulars. The 2 outer squares and the 3 upper rectangulars form an L-shape.
    Analysis: For symmetry reasons, the 3 rectangulars left and right of the diagonal are congruent. Again for symmetry reasons, our L-shape has the same area as one of the triangles -- equal to half of the total area of our big square.
    Calculation: If the area of the L-shape is known (2*18 + 2*18 = 72), you only need to double it to arrive at the total area of the big square (2*72 = 144). Substracting all given areas from this total area results in the missing part (144-18-18-48=60). How exciting! :-)
    Best from Zurich, Harald

  • @victorgorelik7383
    @victorgorelik7383 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This is a quadratic equation. I published the solution in February in “281. 4 triangles in the rectangle” and today: “639. Rectangle and 4 triangles” (with your numbers). Notice that it is not necessarily a square. Like your posts!

  • @Stinkymexicanskidmarks
    @Stinkymexicanskidmarks Před 6 měsíci +2

    You know Andy didn’t find this question enjoyable since he didn’t finish off the video with “how exciting”

  • @mwtclan5249
    @mwtclan5249 Před 6 měsíci

    If you make one side length x, and then the fractions of the sides as (x-y), if you make the smaller part y, then it makes the equations much simpler

  • @giuseppe1912
    @giuseppe1912 Před 4 měsíci

    i'm a lover of math, and it's astonishing how you are able to use this game and make to feel very easy. i think that all the school should have such as you docent to teach the math and the powerful of math

  • @jarnhus
    @jarnhus Před 3 měsíci

    Lovely video!
    I did things slightly different by starting by introducing scaling factors. This way we can end up with a quadratic equation for one of the scaling factors and solve it like this:
    Let the side length of the square be denoted s. Let the factors a,b in ]0,1[ be defined such that
    * x = as
    * y = (1-a)s
    * w = bs
    * z = (1-b)s
    where x,y,w and z are the sides defined in the video.
    With this we are left with three equations for our triangles' areas (called A, B and C for future reference):
    * A = abs^2/2 = 18 m^2
    * B = (1-a)s^2/2 = 18 m^2
    * C = (1-b)s^2/2 = 48 m^2
    As the first two triangles have the same area (A=B), we get the equality
    abs^2/2 = (1-a)s^2/2
    which reduces to
    b = (1-a)/a
    Likewise, we have that 8B = 3C, which gives the equality
    8(1-a) = 3(1-b)
    This simplifies to
    b = 8/3 a - 5/3
    Combining the two expressions for b, we get:
    (1-a)/a = 8/3 a - 5/3
    Simplifying, we get the quadratic equation
    8a^2 - 2a - 3 = 0
    This can now be solved to give (ignoring the negative solution)
    a = 3/4
    With the area B, we now get
    B = (1-a)s^2/2 = (1-3/4)s^2/2 = s^2/8 = 18 m^2
    Resulting in
    s^2 = 144 m^2
    From this the area of the red triangle becomes
    s^2 - A - B - C = 144 m^2 - 18 m^2 - 18 m^2 - 48 m^2 = 60 m^2

  • @mrbigg151
    @mrbigg151 Před 2 měsíci

    This man's killing math equations, one triangle at a time

  • @lunstee
    @lunstee Před 6 měsíci

    I define edge lengths x,y, and a,b such that the triangle areas are:
    A = xa/2
    B = yb/2
    C = (x-b)(y-a)/2
    = xy/2 + ab/2 -xa/2 - yb/2
    = xy/2 + ab/2 -A - B
    Now note that AB = abxy/4, from which we get ab= 4AB/xy. Substituting this in the equation for C and rearranging a little gives us:
    2(A+B+C)= xy +4AB/xy
    Multiplying this out by xy and putting all terms on one side gives us:
    (xy)^2 - 2(A+B+C)(xy) + 4AB = 0
    This is a quadratic for xy, which solves as
    xy = A+B+C +- sqrt((A+B+C)^2 - 4AB)
    The area of the red triangle is just xy - A-B-C, which leaves us with:
    area = sqrt((A+B+C)^2 - 4AB)
    with the negative solution being superfluous, relating to triangle C extending outside the rectangle instead of inside, and one of triangles A or B extending out and overlapping with C to reach the far vertex.

  • @hurricanefist
    @hurricanefist Před 6 měsíci +1

    I was just messing around with the numbers trying to figure out an easier way to get the area of the square from the given information to subtract from and came upon if you subtract 72 (18*2 + 18*2) from 132 (48*2 + 18*2) it comes to 60, the area of the triangle. I haven't studied math in nearly half my life, so I don't know if that's a fluke or an actual way and why that is. I'll ponder this more later.

  • @meetaranjan1994
    @meetaranjan1994 Před 6 měsíci

    You can take squares side as A and then solve . Directly you will get A^2 as 84 +_ 60 hence red area as 60 because rest is 84

  • @here_be_dragons9184
    @here_be_dragons9184 Před 6 měsíci +10

    You should have kept R as the square side that makes the equations simpler.
    Rz=96
    Ry=36
    (R-z)(R-x)=36
    Replace in the last equation:
    (R-96/R)(R-36/R)=36
    (R^2-96)(R^2-36)=36*R^2
    Since R^2 is the square surface, let's call it S, and is actually what we need, you end with a polynom in S...
    (S-96)(S-36)=36S
    S^2+(-96-36)S+(96*36)=36S
    S^2+(-96-36-36)S+(96*36)=0
    S^2-168S+3456=0
    Or something like that...
    Solve that S=24 or S=144
    24 is too small, so it's 144 which happens to be square 12.
    Than 144-(48+18+18)=60

    • @meatdepartment8901
      @meatdepartment8901 Před 6 měsíci

      who cares

    • @Aashuthosh
      @Aashuthosh Před 6 měsíci +1

      I care!!! Loved your explanation.... I did also think about this and since the numbers were 18 and 48 i also thought we could probably could have used trial and error.... You just get sides of triangles which equal 18 and 48 see which one fits and there you go

    • @ViktorLoR_Mainu
      @ViktorLoR_Mainu Před 6 měsíci

      You just watched a video explaining the same fucking problem ​@@meatdepartment8901

    • @weilim8942
      @weilim8942 Před 6 měsíci

      Do we need to learn this for gcses

  • @muratyigitakbas
    @muratyigitakbas Před 6 měsíci +1

    for x+y and w+z I used "a" instead. x+y=w+z=a
    z.a/2=48
    y.a/2=18
    since "a" is the still in the both equation I focused more on z and y. Becouse diffirance between 48 and 18 isnt the "a" its the diffirance between z and y coused it. I just dont see the "a/2" in the equation and try to find ratio between z and y.
    z=48
    y=18
    if we divide both sides up to down:
    z 48 8
    - = - = -
    y 18 3
    as like that we found the ratio between z and y is 8/3 thats means if z is 8 then y have to be 3
    so I write "8.k" instead of z and write "3.k" instead of y. our new equation becomes:
    8k.a/2=48
    3k.a/2=18
    if we do the math in the both sides a is equal to "12/k" and since the a>z>y "k" have to be 1. and if "k" is 1 then we do not have to put it in the equation becouse we use it for the multply function. so if we write 1 instead of "k" we see that a=12 and the all sides of the square can be found since if a=12 thats means z=8 and y=3. in the end one side of the square is 12 so the m² of the square is 144 and all the white triangles equal to 84 if we subtract 144 and 84 result is 60.

  • @Qermaq
    @Qermaq Před 8 dny

    I started with s as the side. a is the short bit on the top of the left side, and b is the short bit on the right of the top side. From the areas, we see that b = 36/s, and a = s - 96/s. Since a(s - b) = 36, we can plug those right in to this one to get (s - 96/s)(s - 36/s) = 36. This leads to a quadratic in s^2, which is what we're after. s^4 - 168s^2 + 3456 = 0. The positive value of s^2 is 144.

    • @Qermaq
      @Qermaq Před 8 dny

      In fact this leads to a general solution. If the area of the triangle with only one vertex at a corner of the square (top left in this diagram) is F, and the other two corner triangles have areas G and H, and F + G + H = K, then the area of the square is simply K + sqrt(K^2 - 4GH), and the area of the center region is just sqrt(K^2 - 4GH).

  • @alasanof
    @alasanof Před 2 měsíci

    Before watching the video:
    I factored what lengths would give the given areas of triangles.
    I got the triangle on the right would be a 3 by 12 triangle, the top one is 9 by 4, and the bottom one is 8 by 12, that way each side of the square adds up to 12.
    Taking the given areas away from 144 gives 60.

  • @SympatheticMonster
    @SympatheticMonster Před 3 měsíci

    Even simpler:
    Area of triangle = 1/2 * b * h
    Top Right and Bottom Left have the same base, so the only variable that distinguishes the two triangles is the height, therefore the scale factor of height between the two triangles is 3:8.
    Therefore, 1/2 * 3x = 18 - or 3x = 36, and 8x = 96. In either case, x = 12.
    144 - 84 = 60.

    • @danielbrooke-gandhi
      @danielbrooke-gandhi Před 2 měsíci

      You've missed out a step, you need to prove that there is no constant K affecting both heights. Conveniently k is 1, but it isn't necessarily.

  • @_HajimeruKaku_
    @_HajimeruKaku_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love to watch these when eating for some reason lol. Maybe to make me looks smarter than I actually is

  • @ChordLord
    @ChordLord Před 6 měsíci +2

    He didn’t say “how exciting!”
    The start of the apocalypse has begun

  • @romypotash7114
    @romypotash7114 Před měsícem

    CZcams showed me this video, and then a video from 6 month prior to it, (trinagle red eara) wich is basically the same question that you solved in a different way... so i think this is the answer to a simpler solution

  • @ilikesharks2020
    @ilikesharks2020 Před 5 měsíci

    I had a slightly quicker way to do this by setting the long edge to x, then the shorter edges to y & x-y and z & x-z. It starts you off with only three equations but I still needed to solve via graphing so not much quicker

  • @Midnightspirit500
    @Midnightspirit500 Před 6 měsíci +4

    honestly I think this is one of those problems where you have to rely on your area to side length ratio intuition because i figured it out quickly from the 48 and the area of a triangle isnt particularly hard to calculate

  • @brianmacmillan4478
    @brianmacmillan4478 Před 3 měsíci

    the answer is x = 1.25. I don't feel like explaining but the distance from x axis and y axis is 3.75 to form the square in the problem. hypotenuese doesn't change in scale so easy to check...good work kid good work

    • @brianmacmillan4478
      @brianmacmillan4478 Před 3 měsíci

      Ah that makes a 2x by x rectangle. Essentially that but then altered to make 2 x by x/2 rectangles side by side.

  • @Larsbutb4d
    @Larsbutb4d Před 2 měsíci

    The fact that you got concerned that you did it in 20 minutes surprises me.

    • @Larsbutb4d
      @Larsbutb4d Před 2 měsíci

      For reference, it took me half an hour to solve only one of Cristina Agg's puzzles.

  • @lasalleman6792
    @lasalleman6792 Před 6 měsíci

    Explanation appears elegant, but to me it was as clear as mud. But I did get the same answer as to the sides and x, y and z. As well as an area of about 59. Mostly through some intuition.

  • @fartenko
    @fartenko Před 6 měsíci

    How exciting

  • @ivanokmunoz
    @ivanokmunoz Před 5 měsíci

    I did it without graphics
    I took the 48 m2 triangle and added a equal triangle to make a rectangle.
    This rectangle is 96m2, so the only possible sides would be 8 and 12.
    So 12 x 12 = 144 m2 the total area of the square, minus 48, 18 and 18 is 60 m2 for the red triangle.

  • @samuelenriquealvarezhernan8088
    @samuelenriquealvarezhernan8088 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This channel makes me more intelligent

  • @peraserp7569
    @peraserp7569 Před 6 měsíci

    we had this problem at our schools first cml competition but the side lengths were given to you

  • @Aditya_196
    @Aditya_196 Před 4 měsíci

    Take S to be side of square then the triangle that has area = 18 and one side S take other side to be 3x ... And u can see for the triangle having area 48 has to have sides S and 8x then u have the other triangle with area 18 have dimensions S - 3x and S - 8x ... U can write this then S² - 3x*S - 8x*S + 24x² = 18 .. u know 3x*S and 8x*S and also that 1/2 * 3x* S = 18 and solve easily afterwards

  • @ahmedfahadkhan4558
    @ahmedfahadkhan4558 Před 4 měsíci

    I would have done it this way which I think is easier.
    I would have assumed the red area to be x then by adding 48+18+18+x=84+x I would've gotten the area
    then as it is a square I would have taken the square root on both sides and i would've got the side of the square which is √ 84+x .
    then I would have taken the area of 18m² which is on the left side (right side of the screen) assumed the above side z and calculated the area by doing (√ 84+x )(z)=18 x 2 and also taking out z which i would have gotten z = 36/ √ 84+x. likewise, i would have done the same for for the 48m² triangle and assuming its smaller side to be y and would have gotten the result y= 96/√ 84+x.
    then for the next part i would do √ 84+x - z and √ 84+x - y to get the sides of the other 18m² triangle which i would get x-12/√ 84+x and 48+x/√ 84+x (there is no need to take the hypotnease).
    then by applying bxh/2 (formula for area of triangle) again i would have done ( x-12/√ 84+x)( 48+x/√ 84+x)=18 x 2 after further simplifying i would get (x-12)(48+x)/84+x=36 then again by simplifying i would get 3024 + 36x = 36x -576 + x² then by further simplifying it would become 3600=x² and by taking the square root on both side i would get the answer x=60

  • @DefeatLust
    @DefeatLust Před 6 měsíci +1

    This dude has been uploading for 7 years straight with dog shit views, and now all of a sudden the algorithm gods have blessed him. Wow.
    Can we make some sort of statistic math problem out of this?

  • @Andymandyrocks
    @Andymandyrocks Před 6 měsíci

    Since we know all triangles are Pythagoras triangles.. We can try hit and trial method by using HCF technique.. Since one factor of large and small right triangle is same and other factor of large and small left triangle should add upto large factor.. We find HCF of 36 and 96 is 12.. Now does the other multipliers of 36 and 96 add upto 12.. 9*3 and 12*8.. Well it does.. Hence the side of the square is 12...rest is just subtraction

  • @terrencepereira169
    @terrencepereira169 Před 6 měsíci

    I would consider only lower triangle with 48 area. To get 48 as an answer, we need base* height=96. 12 and 8 make 96, which fit the scaling properly. So height= 8, base =12. Then assume it's a square, area=144 then subtract the 3 areas to get 60

    • @edheldude
      @edheldude Před 5 měsíci

      That's carpenter math but not a proof.

    • @terrencepereira169
      @terrencepereira169 Před 5 měsíci

      @@edheldude Its depends on what you are looking for. I assumed its a time bound exam and there are Marks only for final answer. If you call using common sense as carpenter Maths....that's what it is

    • @edheldude
      @edheldude Před 5 měsíci

      @@terrencepereira169 I used to study physics and maths so you need to show proof without intuitive leaps.

    • @terrencepereira169
      @terrencepereira169 Před 5 měsíci

      @@edheldude let Andy decide that. It's okay to not have common Intuition. I understand your incompetance

    • @edheldude
      @edheldude Před 5 měsíci

      @@terrencepereira169 Dude, I'm talking abouts maths and how it's done logically to show proof. Carpenter math works well for solving day-to-day individual cases but you show a logical general proof that solves the specific case. That's how it's done.

  • @zilvinas5130
    @zilvinas5130 Před 5 měsíci

    There's a formula that can be used to calculate the area of a triangle while having lengths of all sides. It's called Heron's Formula.

    • @sportsloverbaseball
      @sportsloverbaseball Před měsícem

      We don’t have the lengths of the sides, though. We have the areas of the 3 triangles.

  • @cappycap8144
    @cappycap8144 Před 6 měsíci

    how, exciting

  • @Klosterhasi
    @Klosterhasi Před 5 měsíci

    guessing whole numbers going from 1 to 10 for all w,x,y,z gives us a pretty fast brute force solution with about 10*10*10 = 1000 possibilites to try as w = (w+z) - z on the right hand side. this can be done in excel. or any programming language of your choice.

    • @Klosterhasi
      @Klosterhasi Před 5 měsíci

      and i just did it, took me however long these comments are apart, using excel formula and brute force guessing all the numbers
      values: 4, 9, 3, 8 for w,x,y,z the side lengths which makes the whole square 12 x 12 = 144 minus the 3 triangles of 18 18 48 makes the red triangle 60 units
      Edit: 26 minutes cuz i needed to figure out syntax but could be faster now

  • @sruthin11
    @sruthin11 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Area of Bottom ∆ = 48 = .5 * z * (x+y)
    Area of Top left ∆ = 18 = .5 * w * x
    Area of Top right ∆ = 18 = .5 * y * (w+z)
    z * (x+y) = 96
    w * x = 36
    y * (w+z) = 36
    we know x+y=w+z since square
    z * (x+y) = 96
    y * (w+z) = 36
    96/z=36/y
    z/y=96/36
    we have to find a common number between 96 and 36 that could satisfy the above equations.
    z/y=(12*8)/(12*3)---------> the numbers involved were whole numbers hence easier to decipher a common factor.
    if we take (x+y)=12 then z = 8 and w = 4
    x = 36 /4 = 9 and y = 3
    Area of inner ∆ = (12)square = 144 - 18 -18 -48= 144 -84 = 60 sq. m

  • @weiwuxianshair
    @weiwuxianshair Před 6 měsíci

    What about solving with herons formula?

  • @tomdekler9280
    @tomdekler9280 Před 4 měsíci

    This is a quadratic equation with a single variable to consider.
    The only sad part is that it's an annoyingly big quadratic equation.
    Take side length s. You can express all the other lengths in this fashion. Let's use the XYWZ you marked.
    0.5*y*s = 18
    y = 36/s
    0.5*z*s = 48
    z = 96/s
    x = s - 36/s
    w = s - 96/s
    Then, for the top left triangle, you get
    xw/2 = 18
    xw - 36 = 0
    substitute
    (s - 96/s) * (s - 36/s) - 36 = 0
    Working this out gives you s⁴ - 168 s² + 3456 = 0, which is a quadratic equation.
    Substitute s² for variable u (area of the square) to get
    u² - 168u + 3456 = 0
    (u -24) (u-144) = 0
    u = 24 or u = 144
    24 can't be the case as the surface of the 48 triangle would be bigger than the area of the square, so the square must be 144.
    Then it's just 144 - 18 - 18 - 48 = 60, and that's our answer.
    How exciting.

    • @tomdekler9280
      @tomdekler9280 Před 4 měsíci

      and yes I used the quadratic formula to get 24 and 144 lol, I'm not that clever.

  • @fabricewoelflin3742
    @fabricewoelflin3742 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello, in fact I found more simple to look for the value of the side of the square (a) and I found this equation with all the equations you find with the areas of the triangles : a^4-168a^2+3456=0. And the negative values are impossible and one value 2²V6=4.89 impossible as well. So a=12m the side of the square. And after you know the end.

  • @CharlesShorts
    @CharlesShorts Před 6 měsíci

    How. Exciting.

  • @johnsonyip1127
    @johnsonyip1127 Před 6 měsíci

    to be honest i just multiplied all the areas by 2 and then looked at the total area if i took away one of the 18m areas and if i didnt and ended up with 132m or 168m and went "well one sides probably 12m long but i dont have proof and just eyeballed it, wonder if that true and what he did to prove it."

  • @AnonymesWombat
    @AnonymesWombat Před 4 měsíci

    with graphing catched me

  • @user-zg2th7fo9q
    @user-zg2th7fo9q Před 6 měsíci

    WTF THAT'S SO COOL. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @yangranay8102
    @yangranay8102 Před 3 měsíci

    If it took 23minutes and 22 seconds for a master, how long would it be for the average people?

  • @CatCatchCold
    @CatCatchCold Před 6 měsíci

    Did this with 2 variables, your 'y' and your 'w'. With a bit of simple geometric operation, the required S=48+18-(18-y*w), so these two lengths are the only needed. Since z is obviously 48/18*y, there are two equations: 48/18*y*(w+48/18*y)=96; w*(48/18*y-y)=36. Then there's the answer. However I really can't find a way to solve this without any equation and only 'classic' geometry methods, althogh I felt so close at some point. Frustrating.

  • @rupom_1670
    @rupom_1670 Před 6 měsíci +6

    can you please give me the 3d graph website link

  • @mhmdmansour9507
    @mhmdmansour9507 Před 2 měsíci +1

    there is much easier way to find the area of the square by taking the GCF of 96 & 36 which is 12

  • @charimonfanboy
    @charimonfanboy Před 2 měsíci

    Is it just me or can this be a lot easier. It's a square so...
    the upper right triangle has sides x and a
    the lower triangle has sides x and b
    xa=36
    xb=96
    factors of 36 are... 1*36, 2*18, 3*12, 4*9, 6*6
    factors of 96 are... 1*96, 2*46, 3*33, 4*24, 6*16, 8*12
    x is the longest side for both triangles, so for 36 x must be one of... 36, 18, 12, 9, 6
    and for 96 x must be one of... 96, 46, 33, 24, 16, 12
    and only 12 appears on both sides so the x=12
    12*12=144
    triangles add up to 84
    so the inner triangle area must be 60

    • @danielbrooke-gandhi
      @danielbrooke-gandhi Před 2 měsíci +1

      The problem doesn't say that any of the sides are integers.

    • @charimonfanboy
      @charimonfanboy Před 2 měsíci

      @@danielbrooke-gandhi That is a fair point, would have been more complicated if they weren't integers

  • @MiniGunTurtle36
    @MiniGunTurtle36 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wouldn’t it be faster once you have the four four-variable equations to put them in a matrix and RREF to find the values?

    • @bobkenchidarwin9975
      @bobkenchidarwin9975 Před 6 měsíci

      the requirement for that is that all four systems have to be linear. none of them were unfortunately

  • @CharlesB147
    @CharlesB147 Před měsícem

    I apologize, but I completely guessed that the side length of the square was 12, and everything else just ... fit into place. It took me all of ... about 3 minutes to just take a bit of a stab at it, and it just happened to work. So other than an educated guess, I can't really see anything faster. 😅😂

  • @ChrisThe1
    @ChrisThe1 Před měsícem

    there's two squares though: 18x8 and 12x12

  • @founder8240
    @founder8240 Před 3 měsíci

    maybe you can solve it with a simultaneous?

  • @pratiktaltia4931
    @pratiktaltia4931 Před 4 měsíci

    We can take a smarter approach here by guesstimating the answer since the values are very easy to dissect.
    Area = 18
    i.e base x height = 36
    Factors are:
    1*36
    2*18
    3*12
    4*9
    6*6
    The only possible sides are for 1st triangle be 9,4 12,4. Based on this trial and error, arrive at the answer

  • @brettstafford9665
    @brettstafford9665 Před 6 měsíci

    Easy, Heron’s formula
    a = b = oh wait those are areas

  • @albertongoogle
    @albertongoogle Před 6 měsíci +6

    1 minute solution: Since all 3 triangle areas are whole numbers, compare the possible factor pairs. Start with top and right triangles. Both need rectangles with factor pairs of 36. But one factor of top triangle + one factor of right triangle = other factor of right triangle. That gives you 9+3=12. The rest is easy. Sure, i assumed the answer had whole numbers, but with 3 whole number inputs, probably a good assumption. :)

    • @octobixer
      @octobixer Před 6 měsíci +2

      Really good trick but doesn’t generalise very well

    • @albertongoogle
      @albertongoogle Před 6 měsíci

      @octobixer ya :) but that's the wonderful thing about math - many ways to the same answer!

  • @caleb2050
    @caleb2050 Před 6 měsíci

    no "how exciting"?

  • @matheusribeiro9478
    @matheusribeiro9478 Před 6 měsíci

    i did an equation that ended up like this: 3456 = 168L^2 - L^4 This give me that the side of the square is equal to 12 or 2*square root of 6 WHY?????????????

  • @shkhamd
    @shkhamd Před 6 měsíci

    now solve this problem assuming the square a rectangle.

  • @Glucenaphene
    @Glucenaphene Před 6 měsíci +1

    Took me like 2 minutes but it was mostly just guessing haha
    I basically just doubled the area of the two 18m^2 triangles to get 36 and looked for the factors and got 3x12 and 4x9 and the 3+9 equaled 12 so i knew it was s square of 12 then just 144-18-18-48 lol

    • @baldability
      @baldability Před 6 měsíci

      yeah same lol i just did 48*2 and saw that it was 12*8, so from there it’s just 144-48-18-18

  • @HereForTheComments
    @HereForTheComments Před 6 měsíci +1

    Andy Math, will you ever tell us about yourself? Someone in the comments estimated your IQ to be somewhere between 130 and 150.
    Inquiring minds wanna know what it takes to recognize patterns like you do. Yes, you can solve problems for us and share problem solving strategies with us. But it takes something else, something that can't be taught, to be able to see solutions like this in the first place.

    • @meme-ville
      @meme-ville Před 6 měsíci

      It takes practice and knowledge

    • @HereForTheComments
      @HereForTheComments Před 6 měsíci

      @@meme-ville I have geometry "knowledge," but it takes "genius" to see the kinds of clues he's pointing out. Without anyone to point them out for you first.

    • @meme-ville
      @meme-ville Před 6 měsíci

      @@HereForTheComments I could say the same thing about chess, but alas a plumber can be better at chess then an astrophysicist, its just about practice and knowledge.

    • @HereForTheComments
      @HereForTheComments Před 6 měsíci

      @@meme-ville I know plumbers can be smart, but there's a difference between being educated and being a genius. If you're educated, you were taught. Like Andy is teaching us. If you're a genius, things just "make sense" to you because you notice patterns.

  • @alimassoudi2035
    @alimassoudi2035 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hey, I sent you a detailed solution by email (completely analytic and I included the intuition behind).
    It’s not very tedious if you play with the equations and select the right variables. You end up solving a simple quadratic solution that gives you 2 solutions for the area : 60 and - 60

  • @mrbutish
    @mrbutish Před 6 měsíci

    I know how to solve it on my own, just like watching it get solved because it's satisfying

  • @naimhasanpappu3901
    @naimhasanpappu3901 Před 6 měsíci

    You forgot to add 3 2 1 at the beginning of the video.

  • @MG-the-L-E-Min8tor
    @MG-the-L-E-Min8tor Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wow 😲,also please don't view this as childish but,FIRST!

  • @anomanderrake440
    @anomanderrake440 Před 6 měsíci

    I actually stopped believing in triangles like at all about 3 or 4 years ago

  • @Felipera_
    @Felipera_ Před 4 měsíci

    I found an easier way that took me exactly 4:43 to find the answer.

  • @gonzalorubilar634
    @gonzalorubilar634 Před 3 měsíci

    i got to
    x^4 - 168x^2 + 3456 = 0
    😹

    • @danielbrooke-gandhi
      @danielbrooke-gandhi Před 2 měsíci +1

      Substitute r = x^2 and you have a quadratic equation that's solvable via quadratic formula

    • @gonzalorubilar634
      @gonzalorubilar634 Před 2 měsíci

      @@danielbrooke-gandhi yes, i forgot to say that i solved it and got to the correct answer. I feel so nerd but i enjoy solving this math problems 😹🤓

  • @paresh6166
    @paresh6166 Před 6 měsíci

    he looks like Mia Khalifa

  • @antonschacht8985
    @antonschacht8985 Před 6 měsíci

    I’m too young for this

  • @devd_rx
    @devd_rx Před 6 měsíci

    dumb way to solve, just keep eliminating variables and you get your answer, smh, bro tried using a graphing calculator ong

  • @darkjudas1
    @darkjudas1 Před 3 měsíci

    Graphing was cheating. If you can use external tools we can feed equasions to maple or something

  • @gentozik
    @gentozik Před 6 měsíci

    I love questions from you bc they are not requiring you to remember 3.5 mega tons of formulas and MagnusKarlsens-grade strategy to realise what you should use for a solution, which is too high to discourage future mathematicians
    I just can saw one of these, solve it from a thumbnail for couple of minutes ( if I use a calculator ), them watch the answer and be happy

  • @44ThaNatos44
    @44ThaNatos44 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you so much for your content. It's perfect for a refresh after my lazy brain got rid of the logic for so long. Happy holidays !

  • @smsofisami724
    @smsofisami724 Před 6 měsíci

    How exciting