The lost throws and chokes of Aikido (Minoru Mochizuki)
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2022
- This video discusses the Aikido techniques of Minoru Mochizuki.
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Hello, I'm sending you a message 🇯🇵 from Japan. I am honored to introduce Minoru Mochizuki sensei. ❤Minoru Sensei told me to practice not only Aikido but also Judo while he was alive. He also said that he should practice Aikido for those who practice judo. Yoseikan is not just for Aikido and Judo.
Thank you for your comment
Minoru Mochizuki’s history, talents, and lineage were one of a kind. Today, his Budo can be viewed as a unique compository system. How he defined Budo at the Aikido Friendship event was an excellent explanation that all those interested should listen to. Further, the way Mochizuki’s structured his curriculum was very much influenced by all his time with Dr. Kano.
The period that Mochizuki learned and practiced Aikido was before WWII with Morihei Ueshiba. There was a point later in Mochizuki’s life when the Aikikai requested that he no longer used the word Aikido in the marketing of his Budo although his relationship with Morihei was solid. If there is someone here that knows more about this situation, I would be interested to know more.
Again, Mochizuki’s system of Budo was under a composite method, and with the request of the Aikikai to not use Aikido in his marketing, I can see both sides. At this time, I practice Aikido in Tokyo under one of Shoji Nishio Sensei’s top students Shishiya Ichiro Sensei. With my background in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Judo, there have been a few times at the beginning where I asked Shishiya for example, “From this point in irimi nage, can I pressure uke’s head and shoulder down towards the tatami?” Shishiya Sensei’s response is that is a different Budo or Martial Arts to do something of that nature.
I think that if you whant more information about this ligneage, you can check Yoseikan... "Yoseikan" was the name of Mochizuki's training hall in Japan, and there is some old footage on youtube.
Some of is students did perpetuate his teachings in the same way they where taught (the Yoseikan dojo taught different martial arts, but each one was taught separately) and on youtube there is maily "Yoseikan Aikido".
Also Minoru's son Hiro Mochizuki who leanred from his father but was also a high level karate Wado-ryu practitionner went to France where he was very influenced by French boxing (and married a french woman), and created a new martial art, some kind of melting pot of his fathers dojo and more that he named "Yoseikan Budo" (no affiliation watsoever with "Yoseikan Aikido"). There is a ton of videos of that on youtube, a lot of them in french, and it can be extremely different from one thing to another as it is extremely eclectic (kata, light sparring, full contact, disarm competition, various weapons kata, weapon sparring, cardio-boxing/pilates type stuff, horse-archery...).
Another great one Chadi! One of the recommended videos afterwards was "Aikido knife sparring & Tankendo 合気道 短剣道" by you. And I ended up watching it, and noticed that the Tomiki Aikido guys actually used some of these techniques in their competition.
Thank you so much for your support
Thank youChadi for your video! Here's the names we use at the Yoseikan for those technics
1- Yuki chigai (uchi te-waza)
2- O soto gari
3- O irimi senkai kata ha jime (sutemi)
4- Do Gaeshi Sutemi (sutemi)
5- Sumi gaeshi (sutemi)
6- O irimi senkai ude tomoe (sutemi)
7- Tenbin Nage (soto te-waza)
8- Kote gatame hiki tate (uchi te-waza)
Thank you
#5 and #8 are actually called respectively "mata hanne" and "waki gatame hikitate" ;)
I trained with Minoru Mochizuki in 1987
Interesting concept, there is an element of practicality in the interception of attacks and the execution of the technique. Great stuff, Chadi!
Thank you
@@Chadi No problem, also, good looking out on that Gozo Shioda randori, he’s got to be one of my favorite Aikidoka of all time
The throw at 48 seconds in, that you called kokyu nage, looks like a throw we learned as Dai Sharin: the great wheel. Some excellent variations of yoko wakare and tani otoshi etc. Great to see. Thank you.
Those throws and chokes are not "lost" in Aikido; they were taken from other styles and added to his Aikido system. Other than being an Aikidoka, Mochizuki was also a high-ranking Judoka well-versed in several schools of Koryu Jujitsu, so his Aikido naturally contains a mix of techniques from all the styles he'd studied.
His yoseikan dojo system is rly good. And he is direct disciples of karate, jodo, and aikido founders, expert of kenjutsu, which is rly crazy. Literally a real samurai. I hope their dojos got more popularity.
Chadi you are wise and your assessment is on target. Aikido is in need of more instructors like the gentlemen mentioned. Once again thank for producing another brilliant video.
Nice to meet you,
The teachers demonstrating in this video are Terumi Washizu sensei and Akira Tezuka sensei.
I am happy to see videos of the two teachers in their younger days.
I love your videos!
One more great video, well done!
I liked your video. I had studied Aikido for years. Shihan Mitsunari Kanai out of Boston use teach hip throws in his style of Aikido.
Thanks for sharing!
And sutemi waza!
Thanks Chadi.
Very important for randori is forward motion, if you move backwards you will be crowded by enemies, moving forwards means letting your opponent be where your center is (by moving away from it), thus your opponents gets to attack each other instead. O'sensei talked about having one one opponent attacking you 10.000 times, and so you fight on in constant motion. It is a great exercise in economy of motion and taking quick decisions, using Irimi and balancebreaking in a fast flow. Of course it has it's roots in sword technique, try it with swords a it's value becomes much more apparent.
A judo or BJJ guy trained in Aikido is a very handy person to have on your side!!
This is a great video, thanks a lot! Sensei Mochizuki founded Yoseikan dojo, I graduated in Yoseikan Budo with a direct student, Adriano Amari and this will Always be my technique background 🙏💪👏🏼👏🏼🥋🙇♂️
Excellent 👍
It's so important when you start traditional Japanese karate to study judo and aikido in tangent. My teacher also stressed boxing and full contact while also practicing complete control while sparring. Two years before even getting to spar until we passed that we had control of our strikes. The more people who dropped out fueled me to keep going. Great content as usual.
Hi i like the way you analyse the martial arts i have always liked aikido and see a rising star who is constantly pushing the envelope of aikido beyond its original Aikido Shinburenseijuku if you have not seen him definately worth a watch he does things that i have never seen before you may recognise these techniques
love that these leaing twisting variations of sacrifice throws!
Muchas gracias sensei Chadi por su magnífico trabajo de divulgación de las Artes Marciales de agarre 👍❤️👍
Thank you 🙇🏻♂️
A lot of these techniques are still taught in Aikido.
They are just not in the grading syllabus. They are variations of basic moves. Aikido puts a great emphasis on variations. Aikido is not just the the syllabus, it is a lot more than that.
If you have a good teacher with a great depth of Aikido knowledge you would get introduced to all those techniques.
Thank you
I love Randori. its free thinking, back in my day any technique is ok as long as Aikido principles are applied.
Always awesome
Thank you! Cheers!
2:17 wow thats an awsome attack.
Having practiced both traditional Jujutsu (various ryu ha) and Hapkido extensively, the more I feel Hapkido has retained a lot of the essence of older Jujutsu styles.
Great breakdown, as always!👍 Modern Aikido is nothing more than watered down Aikijutsu. However, it does have some great defensive footwork and blending applications that can be integrated into any art.😎
¡Gracias!
Thank you so much for your generosity! It means a lot to me
I love that side sumi gaeshi.
What are good resources to learn more about the principles of aikido?
Chadi I have had a very hard end of the year. However, my judo is getting better. I am successful in randori against guys heavier than me. I go with the flow. And strangely enough, like my style, I have been navigating through my problems the same way. This is no coincidence. I think this is where judo is more than a sport and can be a gentle way of living. Does that make sense? Would you like to elaborate on this in a video someday?
In tendo-ryu aikido we had a couple of sutemi waza though!
Chadi you should cover the photo set taken of Ueshiba at the Noma dojo if you haven't already.
There's some newaza including submissions and pins among them. I really wonder why he didn't add many of these more effective techniques to the main curriculum (or at all even).
Thanks for another great video, my friend!
Please do a video on Nishio Aikido
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I've done martial arts my entire life. Boxing, Muay Thai, Judo, BJJ, Krav Maga and Aikido. I've been to the Humbo Dojo in Japan, they take it very seriously. I think in America it has been McDojoed but people who practice it everyday that $h!+ hurts. Tiny elderly bald guys put me in air. I am 6 feet 220 these guys were 5.5 130.
никогда не видел, что бы так нападали, размахивая по сторонам своими ветками.
обычно просто бьют по голове прямыми/крюками
Yoseikan Budo was a Japanese school of M.M.A.
0:45 looks like sankajyo nage, not kokyū-nage.
Its a shame that Tomiki and Mochizuke didn't get it together at some point.... Why is it that that the most successful aikidoka are also judoka? I personally think both these students of Kano/Ueshiba saw the real and effective techniques, then applied them in their own individual systems.... Aikido does work, but like anything, its ALL in the application 👐 Keep what was useful and discarded what was useless... For any martial art it has to move with the times and evolve into something which keeps its effectiveness to survive...
Shoutout to the Samurai for landing this things on a sword fight like can you imagine landing a tane otoshi versus a dude trying to stab your guts?
Real crazy to think about this things
I would rather add than filter, accept than reject. Now my art is more richer. Sensei Chadi.
I do agree it would be richer like you said, but if those throws were used in Randori, it would be hard to prepare for the second and third attack from Sutemi (throw away, last ditch)position. Hence why I don’t think they added it, but it is still effective for 1-1 defense. Let me know what you think?(Aikido, Katori Shinto ryu practitioner)
I met A gut who studied in Japan many years ago, as foot work in hand speed were like that a boxing, there were throws they were unexpected foot sweeps everything was a fight he did not worry about fancy wrist grabs like the majority of what people think is aikido today. He explained all the sword movements or strikes, strikes, you never hear that today about a keto it it’s seemingly always if he does this I’ll just grab his hand out of mid air and do a fancy wrist grab. This Philip said his teacher and his students were interested in risk groups it was all strikes because they mimicked what a sword with new sword strike sword sword sword strike
Chadi can I request you list the name of the moves shown in your video description from now on so we don't have to rewatch the video a bunch of times? Also makes it easier to search up
Tani otoshi
Yoko wakare
Kata ha jime
@@Chadi thanks
6:50 The fantasy starts at this point. I was a Aikido practice. If wouldn't agree with all this festival of jumping people, it would never happen.
You think you're more competent than Gozo Shioda? You clearly don't have any clue what you're talking about. Randori within aikido has rules. It is an exercise with specific goals. Just like MMA and sport fighting competitions everywhere have rules and have training exercises designed to achieve certain things. It's not a free for all. The fact you don't understand that context matters simply demonstrates your own ignorance on the subject.
Judo.Aikido. Put together the puzzle pieces and you get Jujutsu.
Historically, were not Judo and Aikido Schools founded from techniques extracted from the great Ju Jitsu Schools of Old Japan !?! Both Kano and Ueshiba were early on practitioners in these schools such as Daito Ryu for example.
@@solarhoney Yes. That was my point.
@@stevezy4772 right on !
they are both styles of jujutsu
I have learnt a sutemi during aikido lessons, I don’t remember the name though.
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I do something dimilar to that tani otoshi where i grab as if trying to do an ura nsge but just sit down and roll back
Of the top technical breakdown videos you've done, Chadi... and that is really saying something! Several of these applications are masterful. One of the sutemi shown in this video is one of my personal favorites: czcams.com/users/shortspqmgID8DIkk?feature=share
Thank you so much
These are like many of the practical applications / variations, the end of the spectrum also practiced in Yoshinkan. From an Aikido perspective, these are extra techniques and are available in every aikido interaction. Some dojos train them also. However, they're generally unnecessary, and possibly contradict, in practising the fundamental principle of the modernised art, which is intended as 'the way of peace'. These applied variations also delimit the range of the population who are able to participate. Notice that there are only young fit men, while aikido practice is intended to bring all demographics together, not so they can learn how to defend themselves in a violent world, but to learn how to work together in order to contrbute to a more peaceful one. If you want the sort of techniques shown in the video, it's better to do Judo, as this is the competitive and more martial end of the jutsu spectrum.
One sugestion:video mitsue maeda "conde coma".fron jiujitsu.
Soon
Chadi, I’m assuming you are aware of Rokas and the @martialartsjourny CZcams channel. He’s been through a lot and I admire him for what he’s through
czcams.com/video/ZslzGxanB3E/video.html
Not only is chadi aware of rokas they have already collaborated.
Unfortunately many things today are CZcams education. I meet some guy who says he knows aikido and no one asks any lineage how many years he study ,if this dude really knows what he’s talking about.
Айкидоки странные люди тренируют защиту от искуственных движений которые почти не встречаются в жизни .
I don't understand the tone of the video like if the work of Mochizuki sensei is lost or he failed to "improve aikido" like there is only one aikido (or jujutsu).
He made his own brand Yoseikan aikido/jujutsu/karate, that now lives in different styles like Nihon Taijisu, Yoseikan Budo, Gyokushin ryu Aikido, Yoseikan Aikido, and other derived styles.
The "one arm sode" in 1:03 can be seen in aikido here czcams.com/video/ZYFf-uiFr7g/video.html To me it's a form of omote shiho nage
All that the Aikikai and Yoshinkan have to do is simply take in the Kodokan Curriculum as is. That's it. Change nothing. Adapt nothing. It will enrich both schools.
You can't compare aikido with judo, aikido is just for showing off but judo is martial arts
Jiri pulled shoulder out so all ye haters wobble your head. Any technique that desolation is risk is game changer.
Weapon attacks (sword)
"Knife hand attack"
More for weapon attacks than unarmed attacks (that's my theory)
"Aikido and street self defense" debunked videos.
What say you?
Never done Aikido, just personal observations.
Ninja stuff
There are some useful bits and pieces also (if compiled and modernized) for the military.
Again just passing observations.
Video Title
Missing the point (as far as applications of various Martial Arts)
Who knows who might read this stuff...
Very dangerous to wear a gi in any kind of fighting.
As an Aikidoka i only can say i am deeply grateful that the founder of Aikido explicitly excluded the concept of competition and that Aikido does not include judo attitude. Aikido is very distinct from Judo, just as Judo is very distinct from Aikido, there is really no point in mixing two different kind of feelings. It is like saying Judo would be so more richer if it includes kicks and punches from karate. You can study and practise various budo, but you can not mix them. You can learn two languages simultaneously, lets say Chinese and Japanese, but you should not mix them.
Meh. Dojo punches and knife chops with cooperative partners.
Aikijujitsu has the best throws and so is Hapkido , no need of techniques of Inferior judo .