Nice. I remember asking you about this specifically when I found your channel a year ago. I was concerned as I had just had the plates installed and you hadnt recommended it. Glad to see you also approve of it. This is the second video in as many weeks, where you covered something that I'd asked you about a year ago. The other being on how to clean the injector by snaking the hoses directly into the liquid moli can (although you prefer to empty the oil filter and refill it with cleaner, but same idea). Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for yet another great vid that explains things so every bloke can understand it. I often link your vids in a couple of Ranger pages but don't know your name so I only say Abandoned Automotive, would be far cooler to say.. "Here's another helpful vid from ......... from Abandoned Automotive. Keep up the great work mate.
All good reasons for blanking, cheers. I do have a question though, does bypassing the cooler present any problems if you do it without blanking? I have ordered the blanking kit, would like to do the bypass while I'm waiting
Done all this preventive maintenance and got a sensible dyno tune with a 25% increase in torque runs great like how it should from new , whole bunch of other things changed like heat exchangers removed oil coolers in place , coolant re-routed and unfortunately I had to do a full injector replacement which was costly but couldn’t be helped once one or two go bad corroded nozzles you just gotta do the lot , the tune and injectors done at Berrima diesel nice work
Can confirm all these points to be true for my case aswell however can add another couple , that since doing my blank (PX1 2015 3.2) I no longer get any black puff of smoke coming from exhaust whatesover . Before doing the blank there was always this very noticeable puff of black smoke everytime you hit the gas. Whether that black smoke was soot or unburnt fuel or combination of both, don't know but it is completely and I mean completely gone for good. Had the car since new and all the way up to 70,000 km mark this black smoke got progressively worse. Installed EGR delete at 70k and instantly smoke gone . The other appears to be more instant throttle response. ( and no not confusing with the installed EVC throttle controller) some mention it to do with how turbo spools up quicker , which does make sense.
Hi mate. Thanks for this video again! Do you know where the FUEL TEMPERATURE SENSOR is located? Please I really need to know. My scanner keeps giving me the fuel temperature sensor code.
Your vids have taught me more than the 10 mechanics have that can’t fix my 3.2 2016 px2. Has a stalling problem/ fluttering idle when stopped or slowing down, has been doing it for last 6k km and has 180k on the clock and no codes or other problems. Starts fine everytime and am struggling to find info anywhere to narrow down my problem. Hoping you might have some promising knowledge?? Would greatly appreciate
Thanks so much for your videos. I have just bought a blanking plate set for my 2012 2.2 Ranger and will install it in the next few days. Can you tell me if the install will cause the engine fault light to come on. Regards John, Perth
Fuel saving from EGR delete . Is complex and simple at the same time. Running a full egr I found very inconsistent fuel usage ,, After delete fitting variation stopped . Saving upto .5--.75 Ltr per 100km but no more . Combined with 1 other major fault from Ford another .75 Ltr per 100km model PJ PK .. Combined gain was min 50km upto 100km extra per tank
How do you get around the engine light coming on from blanking it, I blanked mine and it comes up with a EGR excessive flow code on approximately the 5th start, mine is a 2017, no limp mode or anything just the light I have to keep resetting… Blanking it definitely made the engine way more responsive though!
Cool. I’ve got 310,000kms on my PX1 and the oil is always pretty clean when I drop it at 10,000kms, never black. Maybe someone has already fitted a blanking plate. Will it throw any codes if you blank off the egr? Thank you.
With regards to the claim about environmental benefits, perhaps there might be a reduction in CO2 emissions, but EGR is there to reduce NOx. Manufacturers provision EGR systems to comply with emissions requirements.
Hi, has anyone blanked with the plates on a 2016 3.2L and not gotten any error codes? If not I will go ahead and do it sick of a filthy system. Thank you
Just got egr removed by mechanic (px2 2018 3.2) and was told egr had to be programmed out. Dropped at remappers/tuners & was told cant be done unless i delete DPF. with price of new exhaust & remmapping 3k ... i am now paying for a new EGR to be put back in .... OR ARE THEY WRONG
@@lucysoutdoors If you bypass the cooler, wouldn't you only need to blank one end of the EGR? I would have thought the only reason to do the exhaust manifold side would be to prevent coolant entering the manifold, if the cooler failed?
Drill a 7 mm hole in the centre of the plate so no check engine light plus do not fit a catch can the small amount of oil will protect the exhaust and inlet valves I have a Toyota Hilux Hilux diesel the engine oil is still clean at 6000 Kms if you use a catch can the dry soot will act like grinding paste and will close the valve gaps ( lash )
So while I support the blocking of EGR, your suggestion that the inlet tract will clean itself of sludge over time is downright ridiculous. The only things that travel through the inlet after EGR blocking is clean air and engine blowby, so the sludge will continue to build up, not clean itself. Blocking the EGR is a 3 step process - plate, Provent 200, and ECU update to turn off the error. If your inlet is already badly sludged up, add step 4 - clean it out all the way to the valves. Alternatively you could fit water/meth injection which will gradually clean out the sludge.
i've never had an intake clean , and mines clean as, the detergents in the diesel oil do all the cleaning via the tappet cover breather recirculating, the trick is Not to run a catch can and have a blanking plate.
@@abdautomotive Rubbish. You even show the inlet sludge in the video. Why is that there if the detergent in the oil removes all the blowby - it is impossible for any oil to do that. The trick is 100% to run a catch can, as I have done forever in my EGR diesels. Perhaps understand why Mann-Hummel is a multibillion dollar/Euro company based on catch cans - I suspect they know a bit more than you about the need for catch cans.
@@einfelder8262 Maybe you could do your own videos about Ranger upgrades? Please be sure to include how a catch can would still be needed, with no EGR operation. Cheers
@@timjohnun4297 Why bother? I don't own a Ranger and never will, or any other dual cab for that matter. I just like to help others realise that half the crap on youtube is total bullshit. At 73 I get tired of the same wrong stuff being repeated by each generation.
Had no leaks no issues towing horse float and not a single warning light but it dumped water in the engine and bang then a big $$ rescue mission and a vehicle not worth fixing. Was not happy at all and just out of warranty
@@strawman139yeah it was out of warranty but 2012 blew in 2018 I think was 200 thousand and modified the engine was stock but had a lot of other issues over time but living Nth west Wilcannia and towing 40% the time probably doesn’t help. Was always serviced 5000kms but even on side the road or when contracting. Just not always stamped in book only written in by me
@@strawman139 10 years consumer law for vehicles has been tested in court. However ford will drag it to court and try not to honour consumer law which has also been demonstrated.
you mean DPF right, my 2016 has no DPF but all rangers have an EGR as it aids volumetric efficiency at low load and keeps piston temps down to prevent creation of notrogen oxide (acid rain), without an EGR the fuel consumption goes up around 25%
Lol, saving the environment by theoretically saving fuel while simultaneously emitting more noxious gases. You need to do more research on how egrs work in diesels. Cleaning the intake is a part of maintenance. And you didn't even mention the critical information that if you get caught modifying emissions equipment the fine will be in excess of $10'000.
can you provide evidence in regards to this emitting more noxious gases? , i wouldn't mind researching this. i can't find an intake clean anywhere in the maintenance schedule service booklet of the ford ranger? so if you put a larger exhaust & high flow cat on your car you can be fined $10 000?
"A person who removes, disconnects or impairs the operation of an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle is guilty of an offence under the Protection of the Environment Operations Act 1997. On the spot fines of $1500 for a corporation and $750 for an individual applies." $750 is a bit less than $10,000. And how are the cops gonna know?
@@timjohnun4297 well if you actually read the NSW legislation; 157 Adjustment etc of anti-pollution devices and motor vehicles (1) A person who- (a) removes, disconnects or impairs an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle, or (b) causes or permits any such device to be removed, disconnected or impaired, is guilty of an offence. (2) A person who- (a) adjusts or modifies an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle, or (b) adjusts or modifies any part of a motor vehicle, or (c) causes or permits any such device or part to be adjusted or modified, is guilty of an offence if the adjustment or modification results in the emission of excessive air impurities by the motor vehicle. (3) In this section- anti-pollution device means a prescribed anti-pollution device, or any other device that is designed to minimise air pollution. Maximum penalty- (a) in the case of a corporation-$1,000,000, or (b) in the case of an individual-$250,000.
@@timjohnun4297 so you are quoting the NSW legislation there Section 157 which is a maximum fine of $250'000 for and individual and $1'000'000 for a corporation. Yes the likelihood of being caught is low but is it worth the risk when you can just do proper maintenance on the vehicle?
Nice. I remember asking you about this specifically when I found your channel a year ago. I was concerned as I had just had the plates installed and you hadnt recommended it. Glad to see you also approve of it. This is the second video in as many weeks, where you covered something that I'd asked you about a year ago. The other being on how to clean the injector by snaking the hoses directly into the liquid moli can (although you prefer to empty the oil filter and refill it with cleaner, but same idea). Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for yet another great vid that explains things so every bloke can understand it.
I often link your vids in a couple of Ranger pages but don't know your name so I only say Abandoned Automotive, would be far cooler to say.. "Here's another helpful vid from ......... from Abandoned Automotive.
Keep up the great work mate.
All good reasons for blanking, cheers. I do have a question though, does bypassing the cooler present any problems if you do it without blanking? I have ordered the blanking kit, would like to do the bypass while I'm waiting
Can you show us how to turn of EGR in forscan and where you got the forscan from.
Hi mate, I'm getting my EGR blanked off on a PX2 by a mechanic due to the extra steps involved, assuming the same benefits still apply? Cheers
Done all this preventive maintenance and got a sensible dyno tune with a 25% increase in torque runs great like how it should from new , whole bunch of other things changed like heat exchangers removed oil coolers in place , coolant re-routed and unfortunately I had to do a full injector replacement which was costly but couldn’t be helped once one or two go bad corroded nozzles you just gotta do the lot , the tune and injectors done at Berrima diesel nice work
You ever use injector cleaner?
Hi mate, I’ve blanked my PX1 but have not gotten the bypass. Do I need a bypass to go along with it or if it’s blanked is it still better ?
Mine 2012 px1 has DPF. DPF got clogged thanks to the lazy egr. blanked it cleaned the dpf all is good
Hey man love your work and vids keep up the great job
Btw I think adding an oil catch can will keep your valves engine cleaner.
Cheers.
Simon
Hey mate will an electronic bypass work as good as the plates?
Is there reasons why you shouldn't do it considering the motors are designed with them in allowing it to work at the lower normal egr temp
Can confirm all these points to be true for my case aswell however can add another couple , that since doing my blank (PX1 2015 3.2) I no longer get any black puff of smoke coming from exhaust whatesover . Before doing the blank there was always this very noticeable puff of black smoke everytime you hit the gas. Whether that black smoke was soot or unburnt fuel or combination of both, don't know but it is completely and I mean completely gone for good. Had the car since new and all the way up to 70,000 km mark this black smoke got progressively worse. Installed EGR delete at 70k and instantly smoke gone . The other appears to be more instant throttle response. ( and no not confusing with the installed EVC throttle controller) some mention it to do with how turbo spools up quicker , which does make sense.
Can I blank off only the passenger side on the EGR?Or do I need to blank off both? @abandonedautomotive
Hi mate. Thanks for this video again! Do you know where the FUEL TEMPERATURE SENSOR is located? Please I really need to know. My scanner keeps giving me the fuel temperature sensor code.
yes it's the one that sits on the fuel rail, check out my fuel system video, i go into detail about it
Your vids have taught me more than the 10 mechanics have that can’t fix my 3.2 2016 px2. Has a stalling problem/ fluttering idle when stopped or slowing down, has been doing it for last 6k km and has 180k on the clock and no codes or other problems. Starts fine everytime and am struggling to find info anywhere to narrow down my problem. Hoping you might have some promising knowledge?? Would greatly appreciate
Could be your crankshaft sensor!
If you haven’t sorted it out already
Hi thanks for all your info been brilliant. When i do the blank on the egr do i need a retune?
no
Thanks so much for your videos. I have just bought a blanking plate set for my 2012 2.2 Ranger and will install it in the next few days.
Can you tell me if the install will cause the engine fault light to come on. Regards John, Perth
not on a pre dpf
@@abdautomotive Thanks. That’s exactly what I needed to know. Thanks again for your straight forward videos. I’m subscribed and I share them
Bit more involved with px2 dpf etc also.
Fuel saving from EGR delete . Is complex and simple at the same time. Running a full egr I found very inconsistent fuel usage ,, After delete fitting variation stopped . Saving upto .5--.75 Ltr per 100km but no more . Combined with 1 other major fault from Ford another .75 Ltr per 100km model PJ PK .. Combined gain was min 50km upto 100km extra per tank
How do you get around the engine light coming on from blanking it, I blanked mine and it comes up with a EGR excessive flow code on approximately the 5th start, mine is a 2017, no limp mode or anything just the light I have to keep resetting…
Blanking it definitely made the engine way more responsive though!
if u go to a diesel tunning shop they will be able to turn the light off for around $50
Cool. I’ve got 310,000kms on my PX1 and the oil is always pretty clean when I drop it at 10,000kms, never black.
Maybe someone has already fitted a blanking plate. Will it throw any codes if you blank off the egr? Thank you.
Codes can be a bit hit or miss. I have a plate in mine and have never thrown a code, however I know people that have thrown codes after putting one in
no codes on px1 , px2 will throw a light which can be turned off.
Hi mate, I have a px1, any issues with just doing the blank and bypass ? Or do I need a tune to go along with it for safety ?
no tune needed
With regards to the claim about environmental benefits, perhaps there might be a reduction in CO2 emissions, but EGR is there to reduce NOx. Manufacturers provision EGR systems to comply with emissions requirements.
After blanking off the EGR, I sometimes have turbo overload and a strange humming noise under the hood. What should I do about it?
never heard of that issue
Hi, has anyone blanked with the plates on a 2016 3.2L and not gotten any error codes? If not I will go ahead and do it sick of a filthy system. Thank you
You can benefit by using oil catch can,sir.
Just got egr removed by mechanic (px2 2018 3.2) and was told egr had to be programmed out. Dropped at remappers/tuners & was told cant be done unless i delete DPF. with price of new exhaust & remmapping 3k ... i am now paying for a new EGR to be put back in .... OR ARE THEY WRONG
Preety sure they are wrong, they should be able to turn the EGR off, ring some other tuners
Did you tuned your computer after blanking the EGR?
px1 no, px2 will throw a engine light
Do you need to have it tuned afterwards ?
no
Hey mate can you do an EGR delete on a 2021 px3
im actually working on this video at present
So exhaust end of cooler only or both ends and coolant bypass?
do both ends,and yes coolant by pass
@@lucysoutdoors If you bypass the cooler, wouldn't you only need to blank one end of the EGR? I would have thought the only reason to do the exhaust manifold side would be to prevent coolant entering the manifold, if the cooler failed?
Will try and give you an answer tomorrow or Thursday @@timjohnun4297
This is alot more work to blank it off easy way is just disconnect the coolant hose to the egr and bypass the egr
Work on px2?
depends on if it's dpf
Drill a 7 mm hole in the centre of the plate so no check engine light plus do not fit a catch can the small amount of oil will protect the exhaust and inlet valves I have a Toyota Hilux Hilux diesel the engine oil is still clean at 6000 Kms if you use a catch can the dry soot will act like grinding paste and will close the valve gaps ( lash )
So while I support the blocking of EGR, your suggestion that the inlet tract will clean itself of sludge over time is downright ridiculous. The only things that travel through the inlet after EGR blocking is clean air and engine blowby, so the sludge will continue to build up, not clean itself. Blocking the EGR is a 3 step process - plate, Provent 200, and ECU update to turn off the error. If your inlet is already badly sludged up, add step 4 - clean it out all the way to the valves. Alternatively you could fit water/meth injection which will gradually clean out the sludge.
i've never had an intake clean , and mines clean as, the detergents in the diesel oil do all the cleaning via the tappet cover breather recirculating, the trick is Not to run a catch can and have a blanking plate.
@@abdautomotive Rubbish. You even show the inlet sludge in the video. Why is that there if the detergent in the oil removes all the blowby - it is impossible for any oil to do that. The trick is 100% to run a catch can, as I have done forever in my EGR diesels. Perhaps understand why Mann-Hummel is a multibillion dollar/Euro company based on catch cans - I suspect they know a bit more than you about the need for catch cans.
@@einfelder8262do we need a catch can ?
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@@einfelder8262 Maybe you could do your own videos about Ranger upgrades? Please be sure to include how a catch can would still be needed, with no EGR operation. Cheers
@@timjohnun4297 Why bother? I don't own a Ranger and never will, or any other dual cab for that matter. I just like to help others realise that half the crap on youtube is total bullshit. At 73 I get tired of the same wrong stuff being repeated by each generation.
Had no leaks no issues towing horse float and not a single warning light but it dumped water in the engine and bang then a big $$ rescue mission and a vehicle not worth fixing. Was not happy at all and just out of warranty
yeh mine failed out of nowhere, luckily no damage.
@@abdautomotive very lucky. I scrapped mine and got the old stroked gu td42 out of the shed worst thing is now need a dual cab
remember ford warranty 5 year - but ACL (Aus Consumer Law) is 7 years - so you still can get warranty subject to service history & kilometres
@@strawman139yeah it was out of warranty but 2012 blew in 2018 I think was 200 thousand and modified the engine was stock but had a lot of other issues over time but living Nth west Wilcannia and towing 40% the time probably doesn’t help. Was always serviced 5000kms but even on side the road or when contracting. Just not always stamped in book only written in by me
@@strawman139 10 years consumer law for vehicles has been tested in court. However ford will drag it to court and try not to honour consumer law which has also been demonstrated.
So glad my 2016 ranger didn't come with an egr
you mean DPF right, my 2016 has no DPF but all rangers have an EGR as it aids volumetric efficiency at low load and keeps piston temps down to prevent creation of notrogen oxide (acid rain), without an EGR the fuel consumption goes up around 25%
@@Tokentools-weldersAu nope . My ranger came from Ford South Africa . No DPF or EGR. So far it's been running 7years strong
@@calebjones7769 Thanks for clearing up, lucky Bakkie will run sweet for many more :)
Lol, saving the environment by theoretically saving fuel while simultaneously emitting more noxious gases. You need to do more research on how egrs work in diesels. Cleaning the intake is a part of maintenance. And you didn't even mention the critical information that if you get caught modifying emissions equipment the fine will be in excess of $10'000.
can you provide evidence in regards to this emitting more noxious gases? , i wouldn't mind researching this.
i can't find an intake clean anywhere in the maintenance schedule service booklet of the ford ranger?
so if you put a larger exhaust & high flow cat on your car you can be fined $10 000?
"A person who removes, disconnects or impairs the operation of an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle is guilty of an offence under the Protection of the Environment Operations Act 1997. On the spot fines of $1500 for a corporation and $750 for an individual applies." $750 is a bit less than $10,000. And how are the cops gonna know?
@@timjohnun4297 well if you actually read the NSW legislation;
157 Adjustment etc of anti-pollution devices and motor vehicles
(1) A person who-
(a) removes, disconnects or impairs an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle, or
(b) causes or permits any such device to be removed, disconnected or impaired,
is guilty of an offence.
(2) A person who-
(a) adjusts or modifies an anti-pollution device fitted to a motor vehicle, or
(b) adjusts or modifies any part of a motor vehicle, or
(c) causes or permits any such device or part to be adjusted or modified,
is guilty of an offence if the adjustment or modification results in the emission of excessive air impurities by the motor vehicle.
(3) In this section-
anti-pollution device means a prescribed anti-pollution device, or any other device that is designed to minimise air pollution.
Maximum penalty-
(a) in the case of a corporation-$1,000,000, or
(b) in the case of an individual-$250,000.
@@timjohnun4297 so you are quoting the NSW legislation there Section 157 which is a maximum fine of $250'000 for and individual and $1'000'000 for a corporation. Yes the likelihood of being caught is low but is it worth the risk when you can just do proper maintenance on the vehicle?
Great videos but the God crap at the start is really off-putting