Can these Refines LIVE up to the hype?! Fallen Ike, Nemesis, Anna, & more | Fire Emblem Heroes

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    00:00 Intro
    00:07 Nemesis
    03:03 Julian
    04:50 Anna
    06:54 Summer Selena
    08:39 Fallen Ike
    13:03 Who won Refine War
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Komentáře • 40

  • @krislee3155
    @krislee3155 Před měsícem +25

    Why didn't they give Nemesis auto follow-up? With Ashnard's refine and now Nemesis's, I feel like IS just doesn't want to give auto follow-up to GHB units. You're forced to run Quick Reposte seal on them.

    • @Alector12
      @Alector12 Před měsícem +7

      I mean, Ashnard has more synergistic options than Quick Riposte. In the newest banner, Super Micaiah presents the desirable evolution of the Rein skills, with auto-follow-up included that would make him double down as the master of the reins. Now he only has to wait for the physical part of the skill.

    • @krislee3155
      @krislee3155 Před měsícem +1

      @Alector12 True, I just said Ashnard because he was another one I expected to get auto follow-up but didn't.

  • @natk205
    @natk205 Před měsícem +27

    I wouldn't underestimate Ike's refine. He can still work, but needs help. Now with Summer Selena, I refined her instantly. The amount of stuff she got was insane.

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  Před měsícem +3

      Yes it can work definitely, but doesn't address any of his key weaknesses

  • @nicotopin6552
    @nicotopin6552 Před měsícem +22

    I'll watch the video later but for now I think that Fike got a nice refine...if it was like 6 months ago
    Anyway he got a lot of nice effects but none of them really fixes his issues, they did the same mistake with baby Ike forcing him in a 4 cooldown special
    I have a few ideas in mind for his builds but I don't think he'll return relevant until we get spd/def unity, a speed version of laguz friend or a better C skill that help tanking
    I think it would be so much better if he got nfu instead of dr piercing and the special jump of 2 if he has an offensive special and 1 if it's defensive

    • @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057
      @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 Před měsícem +3

      wouldn´t breath of Life 4 could help him tank better ? m

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  Před měsícem

      Completely agree. I'm still not a fan of NFU, but it definitely would have been better than piercing

  • @CASantos
    @CASantos Před měsícem +6

    Well, I'm a bit underwhelmed by Ike but on the bright side in the future, when we get a competitor B slot to LF4, it might give him new life. 🫤
    But they've really been lowballing refines this year. Last year, we got Gerik & LChrom who jumped to meta/ relevancy with a refine. This year, with many highly anticipated refines like FIke, FLyon, LMByleth, LSigurd, they've been clearly undertuning them. IS is fully in the "sell new units, ONLY" era, which sucks. I'm no longer excited for Ashera & LClaude, two +10s I've had benched for a while, after seeing these last few months of refines... I'd rather they get skipped until IS feels like making actual *good and exciting* batches again 😓

    • @Oblivionknight
      @Oblivionknight  Před měsícem +2

      Ya the only crazy refine of this year has been dagr unfortunately

  • @5C0RP_
    @5C0RP_ Před měsícem +1

    Love Apotheosis Anna refine , really good

  • @drodn0079
    @drodn0079 Před měsícem

    Glad to see that my first 5 star got a really good refine!!

  • @shoutokubayo
    @shoutokubayo Před měsícem +3

    Darn, I wonder what base Selena will get for her refine.

  • @mneumvis
    @mneumvis Před měsícem +1

    The amount of mobility which Anna got is crazy.

  • @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057
    @santiagoriquelmeayuso2057 Před měsícem +2

    yikes!!! at first I thought F!Ike was ok, now I see all the issues
    I´m pretty happy with S!Selena´s refine, her support is good for limited heroe battles which I apprieciate

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 Před měsícem +1

    I am sad that Nemesis did not get Distant Counter.

  • @Ritsu362
    @Ritsu362 Před měsícem

    I haven’t played FEH in months but is it normal for units to get crazy support effects for refine? Selena and Anna look kinda nutty

  • @Renkencen
    @Renkencen Před měsícem

    I probably gonna refine Anne. Those are some nice extra support there!

  • @backupfam3893
    @backupfam3893 Před měsícem +2

    Ike really needed NCD 4 or NFU to contest most of the meta nukes. Running Laguz Friend 4 isn’t as viable now if he can’t counter half the roster.
    I.S once again lowballing their distant counter weapon units. It’s a shame, because Fallen Ike was my first +10.

  • @gokuby
    @gokuby Před měsícem +2

    I personally am really underwhelmed by Julien, I would put him into C tier.
    While Ikes refine is pretty antisynergistic with Laguz Friend I still think it's pretty good, on par with Anna I'd say.
    The winner of the batch is summer Selena for me.

  • @dlion5313
    @dlion5313 Před měsícem +1

    How do I build ike?

    • @krtos7514
      @krtos7514 Před měsícem

      Vital Astra + Atk/Spd Finish (or Atk Spd Unity for more stat stacking) + Spurn 4 (if you have been investing in him, if not Null counter 4 or Guard 4) + Spd Smoke 4 (dodge effect can be outsourced with Anna Refine or A!Peonny dance) or Fatal Smoke 4 or Time Pulse 4. If you use him with his pref skill then Gambit 4 is a choice for B slot and a Pledge skill for C slot.

    • @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732
      @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 Před měsícem

      I got him
      Mayhem aether (emblem ike ring)
      Atk/Spd unity
      Close call 4
      Spd smoke 4
      Darting breath.
      I advice getting him a pledge skill so u dont have to run darting breath and stack more speed with a sacred seal

    • @dlion5313
      @dlion5313 Před měsícem

      @@justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 I build hin with atk/Def unity, lagus, infantry nfu. It's working

    • @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732
      @justsomeguywiththeotherhal1732 Před měsícem

      @@dlion5313 oooh thats a good idea. If only i had spare emblem ikes🫠

  • @frostbitex23
    @frostbitex23 Před měsícem +1

    First! Mwahahaha.
    EDIT: Can't wait to use Summer Selena as I have her in my barracks. All those crazy shenanigans she can pull off. Oh boooooy!

  • @Woolymammoth-db1lt
    @Woolymammoth-db1lt Před měsícem

    nemesis gets 75% dr for a simple condition and its a fun refrence to his boss fight (beat the elites then you can hurt him fully). if the condition were 50% or more hp for allies over 75% hp then that would be good
    but the meta is very unforgiving that percent dr is meh this couldve been a to s tier.

  • @realcass072
    @realcass072 Před měsícem

    11:25
    They can't give him slaying and anti-guard because it would make his starting A skill useless

  • @kirbymasterdeluxe
    @kirbymasterdeluxe Před měsícem +1

    Glad Nemesis is pretty okay. Not all that useful where it counts, but it’s not like I play the meta.

  • @jsterdawg72
    @jsterdawg72 Před měsícem

    I feel like ike kinda has to go gambit/ncd4... Lotta true damage, dr to stack
    Then he needs BOL 4 and anti special jump support

  • @Paiguy7
    @Paiguy7 Před měsícem +2

    I'm not refining any of these, even my forma Ike

  • @richardlee3679
    @richardlee3679 Před měsícem

    Just look at Nemesis, the final boss.
    Look at how they massacred my boy. 😢

    • @Woolymammoth-db1lt
      @Woolymammoth-db1lt Před měsícem

      theres so much dr piercing that makes it bad by comparrison and if the healthy allies was 50% that would be better.
      the solution right now is true dr which he can use well (laguz friend). but i feel there will be a skill or visible buff that " reduce non special dr piercing by 50% or something.

  • @qcop4921
    @qcop4921 Před měsícem

    Ike's DR should be flat 20% based on his SPD instead. It's...all over the place tbh.

  • @ibra_bobo7264
    @ibra_bobo7264 Před měsícem

    I don’t get why IS is giving emblem Ike a huge buff with breath of life 4 and simultaneously creating such an lacklustre refine for fike lol

    • @richardlee3679
      @richardlee3679 Před měsícem +2

      F!Ike has been around for long enough that anyone who wanted to +10 him has probably already done so.
      E!Ike is NEW AND mega powerful so while people still likely haven't +10'd him, everyone WANTS both him and the skill required to take away his only weakness.
      They basically know where the money is and are putting most of the incentives towards pulling on that unit.

    • @solidoxygen7873
      @solidoxygen7873 Před měsícem +1

      The answer is always money

  • @hexblade.gaming
    @hexblade.gaming Před měsícem +2

    Happy Pride Refines.