Tesla bills customer $21000 for driving through the rain while they're still in warranty 🤦
Vložit
- čas přidán 18. 10. 2023
- www.carexpert.com.au/car-news...
• Lobbyists imply right ...
• The Ford F150 Macbook ...
• Apple design flaw send...
• Genius Bar caught ripp...
👉 Merchandise: store.rossmanngroup.com/memes...
🔵 Cheesy mugs & t-shirts: bit.ly/rossmannstore
👉 Rossmann chat: matrix.to/#/#rossmannrepair:matrix.org
👉 Equipment used:
🔵 Chair: ebay.us/uYLTzn
🔵 Chair: amzn.to/49ldfme
🔵 Microphone: amzn.to/3g1hsok
🔵 Mic stand: amzn.to/3Vg47ZI
🔵 Audio interface: amzn.to/3VuKihx
🔵 Camera: amzn.to/3CTk1Av
🔵 Lighting: amzn.to/3RSriGC
👉 Stream FAQ: store.rossmanngroup.com/faq.txt
👉 Affiliate:
› Buying on eBay? Support us while you shop! www.rossmanngroup.com/ebay
› Rossmann Repair Group Inc is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com
👉 Leave a tip for us via cryptocurrency if we've helped you out:
› Credit card: bit.ly/postamessage
› Bitcoin: 1EaEv8DBeFfg6fE6BimEmvEFbYLkhpcvhj
› Bitcoin Cash: qzwtptwa8h0wjjawr5fsm0ku8kf40amgqgm6lx4jxh
› Dash: XwQpZuvMvU44JT7C7Uh6xHvkSadzJw9fMN
› Dogecoin: DKetsoCvwa2hF29ssgUA4Wz4hxT4kj3KLU
› Ethereum: 0x6f6870feb48f08388ee345cf0261e2f03d2fa310
› Ethereum classic: 0x671bfd61ba87edf6365c97cea33d66ba73645510
› Litecoin: LWnbTTAjojZQt68ihFJFgQq3cYHUsTcyd7
› Verge: DFumZ5sMhi3JktLQpsTVtV9xUt3zKDrcZV
› Zcash: t1Ko3FkphQYoQroQc8k2DVk4WKMAbmNR8PH
› Zcoin: a8QdvArHmdRYe1MjiqtP6jDNe6Z4JgnRKZ
"You don't care about a diverse and inclusive workforce, your entire hiring system is created by bigots and then outsourced to AI so you don't have to take responsibility."
Absolutely stellar quote. Extremely relevant and on the head.
This is true, diversity and inclusion are just PR talking points for the company, just like their "saving the environment" PR.
When you make money, you can leverage that money into the ability to make more money. Better economies of scale, better marketing, etc. What this means is companies best focused on efficiently increasing profit eventually edge out the companies that are worse at generating profit.
Therefore, a company focusing on something other than profit is a bad company. The onus of ensuring good corporate citizenship cannot be on the companies. It must be on the state to set and enforce a regulatory framework that reins in what excesses would otherwise occur.
@@MichaelTorrisi-qu8sl. Here’s the catch 22 ….. you would let the overlords through the gate because you think it’s logical or makes sense! 😂
It would be funny if it didn’t get so dark so fast .
@@FlabbyTabby
I'd go a step further - diversity hiring is about harming specific ethnic groups. It does this by reducing wages and making it harder to unionise
You mean Socialism. This made up idea is Socialism rebranded. Hiring workers based on things UNRELATED to qualifications because you’re forced to is socialism and it Will destroy this country.
I work with diversity hires and they’re literally late 4 out of 5 days and work out put is half or less. I’ve seen it affect hood employees. Eventually profit is lowered.
If this continues there will be NO jobs.
If the battery is non serviceable, then it should be water tight, if it's not intended to be opened, it should've been easy to seal it up completely.
Saying anything is unserviceable shows your brain has been eaten by the anti freedom to repair ghouls. Of course its water tight and sealed. See Rich's Rich Rebuilds.
The batteries are supposed to be sealed, they must have got a lemon which makes it even more unacceptable they're being told to pay for it
Whoah there pal, in a 80k vehicle?! If they put the most basic features possible into there vehicles then how will they continue making money after you give them a massive amount of money?
or you could use an ICE...
Look at you, sounds like you work for a living. Do you own a home too?
The fact that my right to repair something I've spent thousands of dollars on is _controversial_ is nuts to me. I'm offended by the idea that I'm not allowed to repair literally _everthing_ I own, regardless of price point.
This is why manufacturers add proprietary authentication protocols and other junk to male repairs fail without the magic keys.
Also why a lot of shit gets sealed up with glue so that opening breaks it.
If the smallest part you can replace is larger and can only be supplied by that manufacturer, then they make more cash.
My old car had $2 signalling globes that I could replace in 5 minutes. Most new cars all have sealed, glued taillight units that cost hundreds to buy.
Is not controvertial, the manufacturers are pouring billions to make it controvertial.
Let's not forget about dealership only parts. Parts that are only available at the dealership and not from any parts store is utter bullsh*t.
You do have the right to repair your stuff, what's controversial is whether the manufacturer should be required to make available parts or schematics, or assist you in any way.
If you can find a way to fix it yourself nobody is stopping you.
@@Satookwait you can't get to the bulb by the trunk? Glad I have my old girl
My dad is self employed, took the business over from my grandparents, and still is running some really old machines simply because you can repair them really easily. Are some of these machines slightly harder to use? Yes. But the ease of repair outweighs it by so much it's insane.
what business is that, what machines? :)
@@todorkolev7565 If it's not lathe work I'm calling BS.
@@MK_ULTRA420 laundromat in my neighborhood is using 50yo machines prolly for this same reason.
I use machines that are 150 years old....
Thank you for carrying our story. Totally agree with you. We have since given up on the car, and purchased another brand. We had enough of Tesla - they are not a loyal brand and treated us terribly and we have heard from other people who have had similar treatment.
Also point of note - it’s GBP (not brexit or Scottish pounds)
👍🌧️
Good boy points?
Thanks for being a guinea pig for the rest of us, mate. Someone has to take a loss so the rest of us know not to purchase and sadly it was you this time. It's for the greater good, though.
The UK has a "Fit for Purpose" consumer protection law. If the car is not fit for driving in a bit of rain, then they should be entitled to free repair or refund, regardless of the seller's interpretation of warranty conditions.
Absolutely. Sue the bastards.
Unfortunately I imagine that you can skip and dance around such regulation. It's sad how we can't just tell large businesses to stop screwing us over out of the goodness of their heart.
@@theworkshopwhisperer.5902 actually no. This can actually hammer this Tesla case.
SAD FART 😅
Goods in the UK must be:
of Satisfactory quality
As Described
Fit-for-purpose
And
Last A Reasonable amount of Time.
And that's aside from any warranty rights under contract (which is a completely separate issue -and you usually can't contract around statutory consumer rights in the UK).
The wrinkle is going to be that yellow weather warning ⚠️. As we speak, I've got a similar warning, with some roads flooding in my town. Tesla can probably bring that up as evidence that it wasn't their fault.
I believe if it's more than 6 months from purchase, it may also be the burden on the buyer to prove that they didn't damage the battery. (E.g. By driving through flood water)
*Pity is, US lacks any law in that regard.*
Let me get this straight... a vehicle, intended to be operated in an exterior environment, is not designed to be water resistant?
Not only would I not pay that bill, I would report it to the local consumer fraud agency.
Meanwhile, my old late 80s Dodge truck: "Hehe, the river is only a few feet deep - go ahead, ford at the high point, it'll be fine"
And it was fine. I tried hard to kill that old Ramcharger. I got it at 75k miles and 20 years old, put another 50k on it over only a few years. Didn't even ever have to replace the battery, and I wheeled the shit out of it.
@willcresson8776 unfortunately for a large part of the europeans car laws are more strict and there is a huge push from politics to become all electric. Meaning that pretty soon it will be impossible for many europeans to own and drive a car they can work on themselves.
@@hansmemling2311 Just because it's electric doesn't mean it has to inherently be impossible to repair. It's just that the idea of making everything into unfixable junk has proliferated at the same time as the development of electric vehicles, modern gas cars are no better in this regard than their electric counterpart.
@@smearfo5612 good point. This means reality is even more bleak now than I thought.
Especially in Scotland. It rains here all the time. If this is their policy they must take their car off the market as it is unsuitable.
Great to hear your perspective! A few years ago I tore apart my washing machine to replace the bearings, and on the dryer replaced the felt strip and rubber belt. My friends and family thought I was crazy. It was a lot of work; I was in over my head, and almost gave up. In the end I got them all back together in working order, with no leaks and it was the best feeling ever. So much was learned and I also learned a lot about myself in the process. This is the main reason I will never buy a Tesla and instead opt for the most repairable, DIY friendly car on the market. Fixing stuff is a "green," and it's also fun.
Bravo Louis, as a now retired mech engineer who spent his working life in R&D I couldn’t agree with you more.
I’ve always repaired on the basis that if it was designed by a human and assembled by a human then it can be repaired by a human.
Mostly it pays off, which is nice.
There's no point in having a Tesla in Scotland, if you cannot drive it in the rain!
You won't be able to drive the car on any of the 366 days where it rains.
@@unsaltedskies only 366 days of rain per year?that sounds very optimistic to me.
Obviously, Teslas work fine in the rain, or there wouldn't be any working ones. This guy almost certainly took it through floodwaters.
@@dansands8140not necessarily, considering Tesla's questionable build quality perfectly reasonable to assume it wasn't sealed properly from the factory
@@dansands8140 lick that leather boot
I was an ATM tech for about 10 yrs. A common issue we would have was a tolerance problem in the unit that scans the bills before dispensing them. This part is called the note qualifier. The standard pratice was to replace the qualifier. This costs thousands of dollars and takes hours to replace. I finally decided to figure out exactly what was happening. I found that it was caused by a 5 cent plastic clip braking. I probably fixed a hundred of them after discovering this. It takes 5 minutes and costs the price of a service tech coming out. So about $150 at the time. I fail to understand why it took me figuring it out when so many people worked there before me.
People are lazy and stupid.
I work in a non technical job with a lot of machines.
I was told to switch one on with 2 red switches, and a green one.
I asked what the unlabelled switched did.
The experienced trainer had no idea, and did not care.
This attitude is normal.
I fell kike an alien visiting a planet of idiots.
People don’t care if it’s not their money. That’s why.
No one else had enough spark of curiosity.
Where is the incentive to do it?
Imagine, that the plastic clip breaking is what makes it stop working, but the plastic clip breaks because of some other issue you aren't noticing, like wear in the bearings of the bill feed mechanism.
So you replace the clip, call it fixed, and a couple weeks later, it breaks again. Then the customer is pissed and you might have got in shit with your boss. Meanwhile, if you replace the whole unit, the bank doesn't GAF about the cost, and you've covered your ass.
🤷♂
@@Nevir202
That’s why you can barely afford anything nowadays.
Cuz spending thousands of dollars to fix simple issues is better than the effort to do it right.
As a part of Gen Z I can tell you confidently: I do not know a person of my generation that would call a repair stupid. It is literally economically and ecologically meaningful and nessecary. But maybe that's just because I am not rich. Most people of my generation have barely enough money to buy stuff once and we'd like to use them more than just a bit. Thank you very much.
Same, agree 100%
1000%
As a gen-z myself… I know quite a few who immediately replace stuff and never even look at a repair
I have seen!! A LOT! A LOT of people just drive and abuse their cars until they are no more worth nothing, so they replace it. Gen z is worse as last generations when it comes to car care
I'm 28 and I don't know what generation I am... but I care about my motorcycle more than I care about myself...
Preach brother 🙌 I'm so glad that you're spreading the right to repair, built in obsolescence needs to be resisted at all levels
💯 💯💯
Planned obsolescence isn't as widespread as you might think and eventually, anything will become obsolete. Typically, engineers are working on trying to make mechanical things last LONGER and fight against wear problems. The point has not been reached where, say, engines last so long that they don't make manufacturing companies lots of money, especially when you add parts and service. Many trade in their cars after a year or two or lease for a couple years so they're getting all the fancy new crap in the infotainment centers, anyway. Wet sleeved engines WOULD make it cheaper to do rebuilds because you'd just need swapping out slugs and jugs, but nobody (in a rare exception) is really willing to do all that when they can get something that's more comfortable on the inside.
@@kender1412 digital devices like phones are rendered obsolete because the software is programmed to not function on older devices, for no reason at all. Perfectly good devices with all the features necessary for most apps. Obsolete by date alone.
Pc games and other programs are build lazy, because people can just by new hardware that can run the unoptimized code.
They try to convince the end user that it is because it's a new game and thus require more, but community often fix the games and prove them wrong. Others can actually run fine on older machines, but requirements are defined higher.
Other hardware is build with the intend to break just after warranty run out, and companies use quite some resources to make this happen.
It is partly the end user fault, because they throw away stuff after a year or 2 and must have the newest stuff, and then there is no reason to make something that lasts.
But they only consider the people who have taken too much money from their company, leaving less for the employers who actually carry the company.
Those are the people who buy a new car. Others have to buy a used car, that is braking all the time because of crap parts.
New cars have become cheaper when we consider inflation, but they have also become crap. People think they can drive faster today because new cars are super cars compared to the old days.. they are so wrong.
@@kender1412it's everywhere bro
@@kender1412even the technical bits are being delayed so that they can create 15 new generations of phones
As a dealership technician for a german car manufacturer who is proud of my diagnostic abilities, I feel you man. The manufacturers don't even give us all the resources to completely diagnose issues and make more component level repairs, just enough to replace assemblies. That being said, it has been shared that a training program is on the horizon to give us the qualifications, skill and knowledge to repair batteries, not just replace the whole thing. I'm a firm believer of right to repair, so this makes me happy.
Hopefully it's not just lip service, and it actually materialises
It's lip service
They would first have to redesign the batteries since they don't come apart without ripping them apart.
@@robertsmith2956 the Tesla batteries are completely encased in foam and glue and welded shut. Great for them, but terrible for the customer
@@thedopplereffect00doesn't seem to protect them from the rain though :-O
The funny thing is, what Tesla doesnt understand is the damage for Tesla by not repairing this car under warranty is much higher than 21k$. I wonder how many people decide to buy another EV instead of a Tesla because of this behavior.
I bought another EV because, behind all of the razmatazz surrounding Tesla their products aren't very good.
*To extend your assertion: Imagine all the people who considered an EV, did some cost/benefit research and then said: "Naw. Not getting into that."*
Why would get an EV to start? What an awful decision.
@@bartkorol611electric vehicles are a good idea, but not if you buy it from Tesla. You can go 500k miles without an oil change with an electric vehicle. That's 10k saved on oil changes. They use electric, not gas. That's another 50k saved depending on the price of electricity and gas. You can charge off the sun with a solar panel BTW.
Quite! Never a Tesla for me
The Fox was cute. I purchased a New Kia Sportage in 2017 and what I was amazed at was in the selling process it was suggested to me that the trend these days was to offload the car within 4 years. This was a car being sold with a 7 year warranty. The old fashioned idea you may keep a vehicle for 10 to 15 years is seen as yesterday thinking. And I keep thinking that so many companies must watch how Apple does business and it gives them huge ideas to basically do the same. Get customers use to very high cycling of new products even if you don't need to upgrade.
You watch Louis vids? :o I love all your redback spider tank vids lol
I have 2011 Kia Soul. It's still driving fine. I've had repairs done as necessary (NOT at a dealer). I like the car and see no need to replace it with something else.
Two things.
1. If you're offloading it that soon, you're obviously going to be selling it to someone else. So even if that was the trend, everyone would just be buying each other's mildly used cars.
2. How many people can both afford to cycle their car every 4 years, and actually want to do that? People wealthy enough to do that are probably going to buy a more expensive car and use it for longer, or are looking specifically for fancier cars, which they will want to keep. Apple products are one thing (and are also stupid, but that's a tangent), but they don't cost tens of thousands of dollars like a CAR.
Who do they think they are fooling? Or am I under that big of a rock? People are stupid, but most people don't have the ability to facilitate that specific kind of stupidity on that scale, at least when it comes to personal finances.
Combined with 7-10 year car loans and what could go wrong? I mean sure you can just roll that loan into a new one every four year..............................You will own nothing and be happy!
@@adamofblastworks1517 Hello, as a guy driving a Kia because of cheapness, but could afford a couple of them, I'm going to offload next year. It'll be hitting 3 years, and the new cars are just safer and better. It's crazy what is happening in active lane assist e.g. I come from a poor upbringing and we drove cars until they were 20. That sounds like a good thing, but it's actually horrible. I would probably never own anything beyound 5-6 years anymore, not even the biggest Audi E-tron.
I'll just offload it to somebody with less income (which is a good thing) and drive the newest. My family's safety is top priority and it's the primary reason I upgrade, the secondary being increasingly selfdriving assistance packages.
Next one is going to be a Volve XC40 electric or a Polestar 2 I think. Kia has made me sad with their poor app support and slow software.
Louis: You've outdone yourself!! Not only have you fully addressed the topic at hand (& Handily!), but you've also managed to bring in your off screen wife, cat & fish as well as introduce us to a new member of your family & fully embrace his existence, vis a vis we all have a rightful place in this world.. Raw talent!! Thanks for so many informative and just plain fun videos!
I’m a mechanic. Typically mechanics are paid a flat rate for repairs they do. If the labor time in the book is 1.5 hours for a water pump they get paid 1.5 hours whether it takes them .3 hours or 3.0 hours to do the job. Many shops also pay commission on parts. So if I remove your turn signal switch and clean the contacts I get paid 1.5 hours for my labor including diagnostic time. If I replace your switch with a new one I get 1.5 hours labor. If I am only paid labor with no part commission I have no incentive to sell you that $225 switch. If I get commission. Often 10%. I make an addition $22.50 of the job. You may wonder why a shop that doesn’t sell parts, that is sourcing those parts from a local parts store would pay commission. They get wholesale pricing for the part. If MSRP on that part is $225 they may get it for $125 from the part store at wholesale price. They then mark it up on your bill to MSRP of $225. They cut the mechanic his share and profit an additional $87.50 on the job. Therefore everyone is incentivized to sell parts rather than fix them.
Even in a shop where the mechanic only is paid labor and has no incentive to sell parts they will be pressured to do so. The manager may reject them fixing the part because it will not be durable long term. The customer may have an issue two years from now and become angry that they have to pay to have the same problem fixed. This is actually a valid and real concern. This does happen. However, the proper way to handle it is to give the customer the option. Let them decide. Truly though, the managers real concern is that they want to pad the ticket for more profit.
All this said. In the vast majority of situations the part cannot reasonably be repaired. It is not cost effective for me to disassemble your blower motor, replace the bearings, and rewind the armature. The labor would far exceed the $125 for a new part.
Yes though there are many annoyances. Such as not being able to rebuild alternators anymore. Or the fact that you can’t buy ball joints and bushings for control arms on many cars. You have it get a new assembly. What is wrong with the 20 pound chunk of steel that the ball joints and bushing are attached to? Or “loaded” struts. Why do I need a new coil spring. It literally takes me less than five minutes to swap from the old strut to the new.
As for the Tesla battery. If the water penetrated it. Dirty potentially salty water it probably fried all the electronics built into the battery pack. I also have to wonder what damage was done to the cells. It is probably lucky the thing didn’t catch fire. I doubt the pack was salvageable.
But like you said. How the hell did water enter the thing? That’s a manufacturing defect. I have never worked on a Tesla but I have worked on many Hybrids those batteries are sealed tight.
Not to mention the liability for servicing a charged battery. Or potentially charged cell or 2
In short, in America, try your best to replace malfunctioning parts, preferably by yourself in a safe manner. Labor and time are expensive. Parts are not.
Several years ago I repaired a heater motor on a 37 Buick I had. It was incredible that materials in that motor. Everything was easy to disassemble, clean, and put back together. It turned out the motor was just seized from sitting a long time. cleaning the brush es and contact area on the armature did the trick. No new motor needed. Try that today. With new cars, the motos are sealed. Throw out the old one and put n a new one.
@@1940limited Got to love our "environmentally friendly" society today right?
These batteries are practically bombs. In reality it should be certified technicians servicing these batteries otherwise your opening yourself to a huge liability.
Moral of the story Tesla should be on the hook for a failure under normal use.
If we are to take an older Volvo, the company in Sweden boasted about how the car could cope in the rain. Volvo enlisted the help of the fire brigade who sprayed water from three different directions to see how water resistant the car was and a reporter sat inside the car and filmed everything that happened
Ford has a car wash type apparatus that sprays very high pressure water from top and both sides and relatively low pressure from the bottom at all of their factories. Every car drives through it during QA to make sure it is water tight.
Volvo went bankrupt over a decade ago and is a shell owned by the Chinese to dump cheap Chinese automobiles
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 That's good, but after the film was shown, Volvo became the best-selling car this year. It was 1985 and it was easy to repair cars at that time
There was a time when a company called Tulip computers put their computers into a tropical chamber for some time to ensure they were reliable enough to hand out to customers. I guess that was a REAL long time ago.
I remember a Volkswagen Beetle advert of a guy driving it into a river or something, and the car just floating away, 100% dry on the inside
Great rant as always, and outstanding fox story / footage, really enjoyed it! Also, I've seen the beginning of the video showing up at the end after the outdoor footage again - just bringing it up if it's an editing error. Keep doing a stellar job!
I love that you take your cat for dental cleanings; it warms my vet tech heart. And not just for job security reasons. Also your grey fox is very cute. Thumbs up to keeping him around to guard the fishies.
Eventually, if things like this keep happening, it'll be to the point where car companies will be like, oh a bolt is missing, replace the whole vehicle.
hub cap fell off... looks like you will be needing a new car unfortunately.
Oil went bad.
Tire tread is .000001 cm worn, warranty void and you owe us $20000
Apple presents its brand new iCar
edit: fun fact.. they actually are working on a car..
Bolt? Everything permanently riveted and glued, same idea as phones.
As a small boat marine engineer with nearly 50 years experience, I've spent my whole life taking things apart and repairing them; Starter motors, alternators, bow thrusters, fridges, gas cookers, virtually everything you can find in a cabin cruiser. Some manufacturers have made parts impossible to open so need replacing, but so much money can be saved by easy repairs.
thats amazing, 50 years
yes, the amount of things where a 2-5 bucks switch fails making it not start is huge.
luckily I know how to fix stuff, but there's probably at least 10 devices that I fixed with a switch or some consumable part (like carbon brushes and fuses) that failed. and I see a lot of people just throw those away.
“They don’t make them like they used to!”
can you create some videos involving this I'd be down to give a follow lol
Working at a car shop showed me that things could be fixed, working at a shipyard taught me anything could be fixed
I got into the electronics repair industry in the Navy in 1983 and in school we were taught to troubleshoot to the component level, and in my entire career I've had to balance repair vs replace and to me the solution is simple. If it cost more to fix than replace, then replace, but if it can be repaired, safely and economically then repair.
great video,you inspire a lot of people to fix things
OK, you convinced me, I'm making an appointment for a dental checkup and cleaning.
Speaking of the devil, I probably should too.
@@km077I should as well
Do it! I regret skipping significant dental care for several years😅
True :D
Me too!
Louis: Absolutely agree with you. Here in UK front-load washing machines are almost universal (as opposed to US top-loaders). Tub that rotating drum sits in used to be two halves bolted together. As the weak point on washers is the rear bearing (and pcb), which when worn renders machine unusable, it could be replaced cheaply by a competent diy-er taking out the drum, unbolting the halves and replacing bearing and seal ($20-25). Manufacturers (inc the likes of Bosch) then started using welded tubs on the ground that these were more 'reliable' (less likely to leak, presumably - though there's no evidence the previous design was weaker) - thus when that small, cheap part is worn the whole machine has to be scrapped. It's crazy, disgraceful built-in obsolescence. And yet these manufacturers will virtue-signal their green credentials! Green my arse.
Here in Austria, the homeowner asked me if I can look at the house's washing machine that was showing an error (I'm an electrician). The manufacturer is Siemens. Look up on the internet, the motor's coals were worn out. Ordered new ones, changed them, but the error wouldn't go. We found out that in order to clear the error it was necessary to turn the program knob in a specific way that only Siemens knew. So we had to call a technician from them and charged us 120 euros just to clear the error. Fucking scam.
Our LG washer bearing went bad at only 3 years in. Disgraceful.
Ebac make a machine designed with repair in mind and it is a UK based manufactured company czcams.com/video/c1c470Rzvr8/video.html&t This will be my next machine when my excellent Beko finally gives out.
It’s green, green in their pockets!
There are many ways to repair beyond component replacement.
I totally agree, love your video, thank you Louis.
I just discovered this channel and love it!
As someone who lives in Scotland that I can confirm that it rains 14 hours out of 24 hours.
If rain + Tesla = bad battery problem, then Selling Tesla + Scotland should = illegal.
Oh no, my car got water on it! A pine cone also fell on it. It's surely done for.
@@Dwigt_Rortugal Not covered under warranty. Act of tree.
@@Dwigt_Rortugal Someday in the near future, "We have found that your drove the vehicle on paved public roadways. This has voided your warranty. That will be $20,000."
@@kelticd5397 On the upside, they have 25 hours in their day!
What I believe is going on here is that Tesla gets the customer to pay for a new battery. Then Tesla is gracious enough to "dispose" of it for them. They then send it to their battery repair depot, put a couple of hundred/thousand dollars into repairs, and finally put it into a different warranty repair car or charge the next schmuck $21,000 for it. It's recycling and reselling all at the same time.
Yup... They sell you an exchange/rebuild instead of repairing yours.
Funnily it's a method that is already used - trading in a bad component for a reconditioned one instantly, paying the reconditioning price. It's a practice used for older / used car repair where it makes sense to repair the component instead of getting a new one. Tesla just added the ripping off customer part apparently.
Wow I wouldn't doubt it!
@@bencze465Many spare parts,especially aftermarket stuff follows the refurbishment rule. Many alternators and starters are refurbished because theres so much circulation from the consumer base it´s whole lot cheaper to just replace the damaged components and throw it back to circulation, its cheaper but not always problem free, i had to replace my cars alternator and the refurbished one had smaller than the original (in terms of diameter) belt pulley wheel.
Nah they put the used stuff into the powerwalls.
Some of these problems need to be solved in the product design phase. Some of these small repairs are getting super expensive because it can take hours of labor to even get to the part. Sometimes entire products need to be replaced because for the sake of being smaller everything is melded together into a single board.
There’s no feeling quite like finding that the only thing wrong with a $200.00 dishwasher PCB is a $2.00 relay that can be easily replaced. 5 years later when it finally dies for some other reason I wasn’t even mad. It owed me nothing at that point. What a great feeling that first wash with the new relay was!
It was prob ~15yrs ago but I def. remember the Victory :) feeling from an early yt vid teaching me how to get the dryer belt back on the drum--after removing 2 screws and a few minutes time. Most likely would've bought a new dryer otherwise lol
Had this same problem with a Frigidaire dishwasher a few years ago. It was for sale on CL for $20 and pretty much brand new. Ended up getting
it for $10 and fixing it for $10. Always a good feeling.
Yesterday I took a solenoid inlet valve out of an old dishwasher so I can go put it in my own old dishwasher.
Dishwashers actually have PCBs? I thought that was something The Sims 4 made up.
Lol this is about the Bob countertop dishwasher isn't it?
The funny part is that a lot of these companies who do planned obsolescence and would rather customers just re-buy a product instead of fixing it also claim to be going green. What a world.
Exactly💯!!!
There’s not only a environmental issue with all these trendy companies, there’s also extremely immoral practices that get overlooked, especially involving 'kids', which is a word the government loves using to push through shady legislation.
Yeah especially Apple, talking about how like their whole iPhone is made from recycled materials but then there's going to go ahead and throw away obsolete MacBooks any landfill
Great video, great take! Can't say more than that I agree wholeheartedly
Excellent video, couldn't agree more with all of your points.
Always loved the "you must be poor" responses. No better or faster self-indictment. And it's not limited to that they're bad with money, too stupid to figure anything out on their own or otherwise think for themselves, believe the ability to be stupid with money makes them superior, and are happy to be a product themselves. Almost as if there's a reason for how old the saying "a fool and their money are soon parted" is. Even better when their only response is yet another "you sound poor." Tell me your greatest fear without telling me your greatest fear. Oh, look, 1789 France.
"Ending is better than mending" - a mantra taught to the sheeple in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. We are living the dystopian sci-fi books of the past
Do you actually know what happened in the French or any other revolution? The people who drive them aren't dissimilar from the people virtue signaling within the old system
"Let them eat cake..." Cranial removal then ensued....
Gen Z is, for the most part, the worst. They go on and on about carbon footprints, climate change, the environment yet all they do is consume, dispose and consume some more.
These people making such responses deserve to be hurt in the current economic uncertainty because they are extremely irresponsible. A lot of wealthy people remain wealthy because they are careful with money and learn how to invest or grow their money.
I'm disgusted with this *"only POORS ask"* attitude that companies have.
You're on the mark. This is an increasing problem. At least 3 different companies that I've contacted over recent time, with an inquiry or a concern about something before making a purchase, have simply ignored the question I have asked. It really does feel like that we're expected to not ask, simply open up our wallets in silence.
That is why they started calling Customers something else, Consumers.
They design stuff for the mass that consumes without question. You can ignore most problems long enough that you'll make a great profit after all the legal fees. Occasionally pretend to listen and back down to make predatory practices more acceptable.
Yeah, they employ dark patterns to make it tougher to talk to human support, to get refunds, replacements or repairs.
We need more lawsuits against these companies. More and more and more and more.
I'm poor. Now what?
my understanding was you don't usually become rich by accepting bad deals even though simple people see it as the status symbol option.
There’s rumors that they count on repair money. And turnover of having to buy new.
You are a good exemple of good judgement! I like youre videos very much. Wish you bleassed holidays!
I've driven through 5 inches of water or more with my Forester. It's mad they'd let a $50,000 car ship while not being able to handle that.
That being said, the headlights and taillights are LED and built into the housing. So they're like $140 a piece if they go bad.
Edit: Replacing assemblies can actually be dangerous too because defective units ship. So it increases the chances of getting a battery that's a fire hazard, and sometimes repairing said battery might actually be safer in that regard.
I actually ran into an issue similar to this the other day. The odometer in my car is an LCD and it stopped working. A repair in the shop would cost $1,500 and they would just replace the whole instrument cluster. I found a video online that showed how to fix the issue by resoldering a few pins. The only difference was about 10 minutes of removing a few screws, resoldering the pins, a putting the screws back. But somehow it is better to replace the whole thing.
this may be some legal issue on the dealers end, that its considered tampering with the odometer.
regardless, its still said someone can fix it for 10 minutes of their time for pennies and they dont offer that
@@baldisaerodynamic9692 Nah. At least in most USA States, all you have to do is note that the odometer was changed when you register the car each year. Otherwise it would be illegal to fix a car with a broken odometer. It's only illegal to tamper with the odometer if you lie about the actual mileage.
i get that, i was just giving a speculative angle. some dealers may just not want to deal with that, or maybe theres someother regulation. or they are just wanting to make you pay more.
also may not be recognized as a legit repair by the manufactuer, which if they do admit it is a legit repair they could be liable by admitting its "a known issue"
@@darrennew8211
Hope u told them you fixed it yourself
Same here gas level stop working, nissan dealer wanted 1,250 usd to replace the cluster, i just installed an analog meter for $50
My motto was always "well if it's broken, I can't make it any worse"
Fixed a lot of stuff that way.
Before I call anyone I always ask myself "what are they going to do first?" Then I do that!
I always turn it off, turn it on and if it doesn't work I typically hit it. Worked every time before.
And I've learned so much by making broken things more broken, too
Although I agree in general, there is a state, from which someone with more experience/knowledge could bring the thing back to life, but your repair attempt makes it so broken that the stuff dies. So you CAN make it worse. :)
Epic rant!! Love it!
wow, great video. I thought i over paid for my 2012 Ram 1500 4x4 @ 15K. and it drives through rain, snow and all weather. thanks for sharing
Right to repair legislation must be made even harder on the manufacturers.
Or you could just stop buying from those companies.
OK as long as there are alternatives.@@phoneticalballsack
@@phoneticalballsackbut they all do it.
@@DaylightRobberyCA so stop buying from them
@@phoneticalballsack guess I’ll go starve and die in a cave because I can’t participate in the economy.
I don't necessarily have the time or interest in troubleshooting most of my own things, but I want to be able to bring it to a repair shop and have it repaired by someone who can. This is why I will always support right to repair. Its good for the culture, the environment, and most importantly the wallet!
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy", it seems they just can't crack that happy part huh....
I fix anything I can from my laptop to appliances to my BMW and Mercedes. I have easily saved over $30k in my lifetime doing my own labor. And now, with CZcams DIY videos, it's 100% better! That's why they want to kill the right to repair.
This is the right look at it. While not EVERYONE should be invested in repairing everything they own, we should still have a community that accepts this as normal and that this is the better route to go.
You may not have the time, energy, or even mental capacity to know how to do something, but having someone fix it for you is the best alternative. Just swapping out and buying a new one isn't a repair, it costs more, and overall, only helps companies get away with it because they know they can do it.
Seems in great part like the masses now have just enough to waste on fully replacing a item....unlike in years past there wasn't enough average income to that, folks were forced to self repair.....now a days, as there is less desperation, those people revert to the natural lazy tendencies of the masses; The wealthy and/or poorly financially responsible now have enough money to waste on a vehicle that costs 1 full year's wage of the average American's income. Businesses are just pushing the profit boundaries as far as the average Joe will let them. Louis is here trying to promote the masses from being lazy short-sighted fools that are getting taken advantage of my the peddlers of materialistic goods. Louis is a beacon fighting the good fight. But year after year people as a societal whole (from an anthropological standpoint), are their own worst enemy. It's people like us and Louis that have to continually pull crayons of these idiots noses.
Actually it is eminently possible to repair burned out many types of LED light. I fixed a LED batten that had sufferecd water damage just by replacing a few surface mount LEDs.@@jpb2359
Kudos to you Louis, power to you!
I completely agree with eveything you've said. I must say that, despite the fact that you can only make so many videos about fixing chips that control power rails in Crapple laptops without becoming repetitive, I REALLY miss your board repair videos.
We need to get repair taught in schools so the next generation learns the importance of having a right to do it.
When i was in school (graduated in 82) there was graphic arts, wood shop, metal shop, auto mechanic classes. Now if you want to learn these, you have to go to college & pay out the ass.
@@RKZX2 I graduated in 2011 and we still had all those classes. It's a consumer problem where we are taught it's easier/cheaper to throw away rather than repair
If you think they were phased out accidentally or by chance instead of purposefully, you couldn't be more wrong. Status quo for the past 50'ish years is that the government does not want a capable or aware populous.
That's why they took it out of schools they are evil.
School isn't for learning really, it's for indoctrination. Why teach the brainless consumers to fix their stuff when we can sell them shit?
The greed of all these corporations operating in basically every sector is at truly outrageous levels
As a repair tech in electronics that worked for 5 years repairing mobile phones in the 90´s you are absolutely right that prety much no one admits that they have water damaged their phone, i have repaired thousands of phones and seen many many water damages and also cleaned some of them with good results.
Your accent and audio quality are top notch 💯
I’m a service engineer for a major auto mfg., you’re spot on! I love diagnosing and repairing; it’s infuriating when engineering tells us to replace components over repair.
and the same corpos have big cat sized letters on their ads and internet sites that they are sustainable and responsible and love environment and...
Its hilarious when in college and some corp talks about Climate or sustainability business when they just replace things without repairing.
I think 90% of business in US have pr about Climate/Sustainability theme but none of them have a department about repairing.
If gov really cared or still cares they should implement repairing regulation for every tech device company
Why do they say to replace rather than repair? What is their argument? Seems ridiculous if you have a legit service engineer but they say don't repair it. Like why
@@TheZiZaZothey get a lot more money selling an entire new part "assembly", as compared to repairing a small piece of the larger "broken" assembly.
Like when an alternator is going bad they just replace it right? But many times you just need to replace the zenner diode inside the alternator which is very cheap.
When I worked for a car company (won't say which because they Google themselves constantly to track down former employees talking shit to sue them) we had an EV that had a battery not meant to be in humid environments or temperatures above 85f. We had so many people calling in with complaints of their battery sucking within a year because they had trouble holding a charge. Turns out the cells were dying because they lived in a humid environment above 80f.
That’s like 80 % of the planet, or something to that effect. And yet, the Zoe I rented has strong ventilators to keep the battery‘s temperature down…
@@ArDeeMee Yeah but don't Zoe's mainly have rental batteries, even if you buy them? I guess car companies care more about battery life if they're still their property.
@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey Yeah, they’re technically „rented“ for about 70 €/month or something (last time I checked). I see it more for what it is: A glorified insurance. When capacity is down to 70 %, they’ll exchange it for a new one. The old battery then gets overhauled, because you really only need to change out the individual cells that are broken. Then it goes back into circulation, probably as another replacement battery.
Someone needed to lose a job over this because who is stupid enough to think anyplace in this country stays dry and cold all year round.
I don’t work well when it’s hot and humid, either.
Totally agree! I still change the oil in my family’s 4 cars after 2 oil pan plugs stripped out by “ professional” oil change places. We are in trouble…
A thought just occurred to me: Ariens, specifically for their snow throwers, has parts manuals available online going back at least 30 years, probably closer to 50 or 60 years.
Let's hold up Ariens as an example of what companies ought to be doing.
There are still a lot of companies that do follow that ethos, but they are not the ones that make news or hype like Apple / Tesla.
I just had reason to be searching for repair on an older oil pump from Danfoss, all the specs, datasheets, even a youtube channel showing how to bleed it etc.
Then there's my aunt trying to get her Indesit washing machine fixed, the controller board needs replacing. Surprisingly common point of failure on newer style machines, and this one is somehow serial locked to machine. Can't simply replace with a part off ebay for example, need to recode one of the chips on the board.
@@benwu7980 Ah yes, can't wait for someone to explain how that serial number locking is actually genius engineering or something.
@@benwu7980 Parts being serial locked is one of the most serious repair issues today. It needs to be illegal.
@@jonc4403 I can ever so slightly understand it on a smartphone / tablet / computer to keep private data .. private.
On a washing machine.. nope, there's nothing there, unless I want want to keep my preference for CK boxers private (joke)
Winning right to repair may turn the tables for consumers vs corporations/manufacturers. Keep fighting the good fight Louis.
Agreed, thanks to Louis and the other crusaders who have taken up the fight for right to repair! They’ve got tenacity and balls of steel.
Got e Lenovo laptop and the repair shop did it's the whole motherboard that's broken somehow and it kinda works just unusable as a laptop
❤ Thank you for having ingenuity and using it.
I had issues with Keurig coffee makers. After running the cleaning cycle, they would no longer work. Dead as a doornail. Tore one apart and found a tiny reset button on some kind of thermocouple. Pushed I and reassembled the unit and it worked perfectly. It was inaccessible from the outside and the tear down was not fun. I will never buy a Keurig coffee maker again. I recommend the Instant Pod that handles both Keurig pods and nespresso pods. Initially somewhat expensive but is hundred times better than keurig. Hope this helps somebody.
Being an HVAC service tech, I see it more and more every day. Companies are not willing to fix old equipment anymore. Either they don't know how or they would rather make more money by condemning the equipment and replacing it with all brand new equipment. It's crazy to me when I go to a job after another company that has condemned something and i can fix it within an hour of being there..
I see a business opportunity for you.
Happened to me as a customer just like that. Tried to sell me a new $15k system and said it couldn't recharge due to the fittings being bad. Sent them away. Another guy who owned his own company filled it for $350 and its been working for 2 years now better than ever.
Almost bought a new hear-aid. My old one did not work anymore.
It has been laying for some years in a box. I saw that the battery was all white around it. Well that one is gone, so I made an appointment with a hearing-shop. You have to have a hearing-test and then choose a hearing-aid, to get money from your insurance. .
Anyways.....
Yesterday I cleaned / contact-sprayed it and bent a little copper-thing. And presto... damn, it worked again. Saved me about 1500 Euro's.
@@RealButcherSend everything to Cuba, I've heard those guys are masters at repairs.
This is why I still drive a 25yo car. The risk/cost ratio makes no sense for anything new. Thanks for keeping up the fight Louis 🙌
How do you maintain it?
Unfortunately my 22yo rust bucket is falling to shambles. My rear subframe is gone, literally rusted gone. My trunk could fall off at any time.
And I need a newer 2014.
@@nikolasscheeks tbh I lucked out, only had 90k miles on it when I got it last year, and a reliable car. I've done all maintenance myself since getting it: brakes, new muffler, oil etc.
@@andrewvirtue5048 I feel you bro, living in the rust belt sucks. I keep a winter and a summer vehicle for that reason. Undercoating your vehicle helps a lot in the long run though.
Fully agree with the older car... I was worried about my now 23yr old car which although has many electronic components, but compared to todays cars, it's quite simple AND has been reliable. Over 22yrs of ownership (from new), the yearly cost has been minimal. Custom electronic components are the downfall of most repairs these days.
Hi Louis! New sub here from CO! Great video! Just wanted to ask if you could put a light weight screen over your pond? Maybe make it rectangular so you can stake the long end down in your grass? Also, I'm not sure if Oreo is an indoor/outdoor cat, but please don't let Oreo out anymore. That fox could be motherless and may need help, which is fine, but now I'm worried about Oreo.
You are perfectly right, we should repair much more than we do now. And its sad that our ingenuity is blocked because we are not allowed to repair. Let’s hope everyone will support the “right to repair”
People do care about fixing the problem. They just don't know until it affects them.
Thank you Sir!
I don't personally dare work on a car for anything that doesn't just require a quick unplug and pour; but I know a couple repair yards in the area that will do what actually needs done and the difference between what they want and the big name repair places is insane. I did get sick of this sort of issue in prebuilt computers where things weren't swapable so one small hardware issue was basically a death sentence for the system so i took the time and learned to build and maintain my own pc from parts and have had a smooth time for my last 3 pcs (well after the initial adjustments that can be a pain)
I remember when Apple tried to claim that using their phones below freezing temperatures was not covered under warranty. That backfired spectacularly as that would mean a phone that is usable only few months every year.
"Actually trying to solve problems rather than just replacing entire assemblies and giving up is what actually makes the world green"
Man is spitting facts.
Besides, who tf will make a car that cannot drive under the heavy rain?
A California-based Company. Smartphone Screens are useless in humid Weather too, and Google Maps really shows that it was made in a Place with few Roundabouts, no Public Transport and absolutely hostile to Pedestrians. It constantly tells me to turn left in a Roundabout instead of taking the 3rd Exit, to walk on a Highway while ignoring a Pedestrian Path right next to it and is utterly useless for finding Public Transport Routes. I guess that's due to Google Maps being made by People who barely know about the Existence of these Things.
100%. People are always forgetting that Reduce and Reuse come before Recycle.
It seems that it wasn't even driven in heavy rain, just that heavy rain happened while it was parked, and Scotland just got a whole lot more rain.
@@Genius_at_Workthats not been my experience with Google Maps. i get pretty good bike routes and bus routes from Google maps all the time.
@@benwu7980 Yeah, to the point that "heavy rain" turned into "significant flooding". Teslas are actually known for being pretty water-resistant compared to combustion-engine cars if they aren't lemons off the factory floor. This one may well have been, but it'll be hard to prove.
I feel this. My washing machine started to leak. I bought it used and have had it for 6 months. My dad said "it might be time to buy a new one" and I sat there like "Hell no, I've had this thing for 6 months. No way in hell am I getting rid of it yet." Diagnose the issue, it's a bad pump. 1 new pump later, works good as when I bought the thing.
We got a fancy machine with our home. Fancier than I would have bought myself, but you can be certain I'm going to try to fix it before i replace it.
I could never afford this model... thankfully, it's dead simple to work on so far, despite all the digital stuff. Just took learning the 50 step code to reset the error XD
Our dishwasher, a good Bosch, needed two new relays on the main PCB. Good as new (well, better than many new ones).
Our Maytag dishwasher had a button fall out
Not enough to get lost, but enough that pressing the button did nothing
A screwdriver, a few drops of glue, and about an hour, and i somehow managed to save my aunt and uncle a few hundred
I personally fixed several washing machines which all were 10-15 years old.
Most of them just got leaky connections fixable with $3-5 parts.
The last thing which broke was caused by a drum wear, called in a technician who fixed it in half an hour and charged $60.
These things are quite durable.
I have a dryer 30 years old just a few dollar part and a new 80$ motor and works just as good as new. I have a refrigerator that's probably close to 40 or more I redid the whole auto defrost circuit, the fridge in general may be in efficient now but it still works. I'll try to fix everything I own.
Every word is on the righ place! Great video!
Same thing with "SMART" BMW engineers and "lifetime" fluid in automatic gearbox...
I remember listening to Jean Shepherd on WOR-710 AM radio in NYC back in the 1970s when he said that someday your car would be sealed so you couldn’t repair anything yourself. You would need to replace major parts of the car like the entire engine or transmission when something went wrong. We are almost there now.
Louis is correct. I am an electrical engineer (Aerospace) and it generally makes sense to check the item's repairablity -- often there is a simple problem that saves time and cost, and it's truly a "green" approach.
Considering entropy, the lowest cost solution is the greenest and least impacting to the environment.
Funny that you mentioned “entropy”, because I firmly believe that entropy will ultimately be the downfall of eternally profit-seeking corporations: every attempt to earn a profit will have diminishing returns and eventually become economically unviable.
You're spot on. Large component failure is usually not the problem when I make my hvac repairs. 90% of the time, I'm swapping out capacitors.
Seems in great part like the masses now have just enough to waste on fully replacing a item....unlike in years past there wasn't enough average income to that, folks were forced to self repair.....now a days, as there is less desperation, those people revert to the natural lazy tendencies of the masses; The wealthy and/or poorly financially responsible now have enough money to waste on a vehicle that costs 1 full year's wage of the average American's income. Businesses are just pushing the profit boundaries as far as the average Joe will let them. Louis is here trying to promote the masses from being lazy short-sighted fools that are getting taken advantage of by the peddlers of materialistic goods. Louis is a beacon fighting the good fight. But year after year people as a societal whole (from an anthropological standpoint), are their own worst enemy. It's people like us and Louis that have to continually pull crayons of these idiots noses.
If they admit there’s issues than that opens them up for lawsuits and forceful recalls. Tesla is the greatest example we’ve seen of automakers dodging issues in decades.
Did you forget about dieselgate? (will kill hundreds due to carcinogens)
Kia cheaping out on a $50 immobilizer so that 2022 saw 5000% increase in kias stolen and crashed in one year? insurance companies wont insure them? theyre worth scrap now because no one will buy them used?
Ford Pinto design flaw that ford shipped having a paper where 180 "burn deaths" would occur but it would be cheaper to pay for the lawsuit?
GM out-of-spec $2 plastic ignition that killed 132 people?
Tesla is the greatest example??? Wow. I must have missed what happened
I was waiting for him to say this!!!!
Yea. My friend bought a KIA advertised as having 7 year warranty. Within the first year is started to behaving strangely (misfiring, losing power), he took it to the dealership and they quoted him for an engine replacement. Turns out the catalytic converter has crumbled and the dust somehow was sucked into the engine destroying the cylinder lining. In a brand new car, clearly a manufacturing defect but he still has to fight them in court.
@@ClassicGOD
Wow, I had a kia and my engine went in 7 years. They fixed it no questions asked. I guess I got really lucky.
I remember buying used motorbikes in the 1990s and going out and buying a Haynes manual so I could fix most mechanical issues.
I don't think anyone does this anymore.
It used to be normal to do home maintenance and to have access to a lot of educational material and generic products to go out and fix your old car or bike, but sadly this is no more. Even if you want to do home maintenance, it is often impossible with silly things like bolts on car engines which are situated in such a way that it requires the engine to be removed from the car (which is not possible for the home DIY enthusiast!), if you want to work on the car and expansive LED lights which cannot have a bulb replaced but rather requires a whole unit to be replaced for a few hundred dollars.
the heron segue was so smooth *chef's kiss*
Louis & Linus hammering this point home are a big part of why I have started to repair just about anything I can when it breaks instead of replacing it.
One of the best things LTT has ever done.
Never mind rain, now you must worry about washing the car too? Pretty insane. There needs to be strong class action lawsuits against this type of bullshit. Absolutely right in saying that if one company gets away with it, others will follow suit.
I used to read bid requests where government agencies put out requests for bids on software applications to solve a problem like city service management, city college on-line class registration, or handling mundane tasks like issuing payroll checks to tens of thousands of people, etc. I remember that some places had a provision that said the vendor is required to certify the software has no means to remotely disable it. They've probably either heard of it being done or had it done to them. What a world we live in.
100% agree - thanks to my grandfather he taught me to use my hands (and my brain) to fix stuff - and funny enough I love doing it. I must have repaired untold things in and around the house. Sadly my kids have very little interest in doing the same 😕
You’ve been a huge inspiration to me for getting into repair. I recently was shown how to solder and (with someone’s help) was able to reattach the charging port to the motherboard of a 1st gen amazon kindle. Now it works and I’m so happy. Later, I’m going to swap two Iphone 5s screens to try to revitalize my cousin’s old phone.
I’ve had my iphone 6s repaired 3-4 times now because I refuse to unnecessarily upgrade to receive less hardware and worse features.
Your repair advocacy has stretched into other parts of my life too. A while back my mom wanted to spend a couple hundred dollars to have someone come and repair our dryer. After convincing her, we were able to fix it. The problem? A sock, stuck in the lint area.
These are just some recent examples, I have many more. Your message is powerful and resonates with more people than you might think :)
i didnt have the tools to repair my headset but i figured out how to do it and payed 12$ to a service guy that did it. The headset still works fine today
Your channel has inspired me and my son in electronics repair. I'm a prior mechanic who was always nervous about the electrical side of repair. You've been inspirational in our lives. I really appreciate your hard work on this channel.
Go for it. Electronics are going to be inter graded into all life they are making smart cities. Look up iota crypto learn how to code too. It will be profitable and something u can pass down to your kids
I spent 43 years as a designer for aircraft manufacturers and airlines. We spent lots of effort designing to facilitate repair. In 1970 we designed to repair on the aircraft as much as possible, but in the late 70's, the Air Force contracts were written for 3 levels of repair, on aircraft, off aircraft shop repair, and depot (overhaul) repair. That was logical, but now the commercial market has almost completely hampered on vehicle repair, and eliminated shop repairs and overhaul repair. Now, when it breaks down, just throw it away! That is NOT sustainable.
Ty
I have a degree in environmental sciences and Louis is 100% on the money with greenwashing BS. What we need is to stop throwing literally everything away because it can't be fixed!
Yeah, what DO we do with things that manufacturer refuses to fix, and doesn't ALLOW others to fix? Doesn't matter if it's refusal to sell spare parts or refusal to sell diagnostic tools. A guy that WOULD be able to fix it for you - can't. Just keep the broken item forever?
There is hope. The EU is taking measures to ban greenwashing such as carbon offshoring, and thus in the future, the label "climate neutral" will ACTUALLY mean something in that region.
Greenwashing greatly aggravates me and is actively making the problem worse.
@darksidegryphon5393 Most of the time, all companies do is move the carbon-heavy parts of production to other countries with more lax regulations on carbon emissions.
I remember a few years back my country (the Netherlands) had a "scrap subsidy" where you could turn in your old car and get several thousand € discount on a new one, but on the condition that the old one would get scrapped immediately, and never be re-sold. Because "oLd cARs arE dIrTIer ThaN NeW caRs" ...what ACTUALLY happened though was that people turned in cheap, small, economy cars like Smart ForTwo's, Fiat Panda's and Suzuki Alto's and bought big, heavy, green-washed "hybrid-in-name-only" SUV's they couldn't normally afford without the subsidies. Meanwhile, ACTUALLY poor people driving ACTUAL rust buckets who couldn't afford a new car before still couldn't, even with the subsidies. Scrapyards were horrified that they were legally required to destroy perfectly good compact cars, some of them only a few years old.
My late father was a fix-it guy. Whether plumbing, electrical, mechanical, carpentry he called himself “Jack of all trades, Master of none.” If he couldn’t fix something, then and only then, he and mom would buy new. He did work for friends and neighbors too…Let’s get Joe to fix it…😊 P. S. He also designed and built his own garage…he did everything except pour the concrete floor. He put so much rebar down, the floor never cracked, even after 50 years.
Hey, he was oftentimes better than a master of one 🙂
Same as my late father. It'd have been his birthday today, he's tinkering in Heaven.
yeah, same here.
He designed and built a whole garage? Well that is amazing... oh wait no it isn't.
@@thomgizziz hehe, well he did not say how it turned out. But most people do not build the whole thing themselves, and if not educated as a builder, they dare not even try.
It's why I'm sticking to 2014 era vehicles. I've got tools to fix the mechanical, the OS tools are now cheap to buy and the lights are individual, because I learned under UK Law, I can't replace an LED light, I have to replace the Headlight unit.... Which also costs £1500 vs a £30-£50 light I can fit.
I agree 100%. The manufacturers need to know what the root cause of the issue so that they can modify the design to prevent future occurences.
They've done a great job of convincing me to not get a Tesla. If it can't handle rain then the car is more of a fancy decoration than an actual vehicle.
Like, *I* can handle being rained on! They made a car that is less durable than me 😂
Elon Musk said they are toys not meant to be the only car
@@pollypurree1834lol which is literally what most people were saying when he was saying they are cars...
Washing the car is a big no no also.
My next vehicle will be a 90’s Jeep. I’m embracing an identity as a Luddite.
I doubt that would fly in the US. You would call a lemon law lawyer, and he'd take care of it and Tesla would at his fee.
I will absolutely put my hands up and say that for most of my life, I very much was the too-cautious type who always assumed I had zero chance of being able to repair or improve my own property. Thankfully, channels like yours have started me on the path to slowly changing that, but it's taking time, and I definitely agree that not getting people into that habit at an early age is a terrible idea
By age eight I was breaking everything in the house mechanical to see how they work. By age ten, I was putting them back together again. By age 12 I was building my own electronically controlled toys.
Kids today.... we are doomed.
I have always looked at how likely I am to screw up and the total cost of screwing up as the two main aspects of whether or not I will work on something myself or have someone else work on whatever it is. For example, I am NOT working on the boiler I have in my house. The cost of screwing that up is huge and in that case, also risky. That is something I will leave to professionals. But installing a new blower on my dryer, that was something which I had never even thought about doing before having to do it. There wasn't a big chance of really screwing that up all that badly and even if I did, it would have likely simply meant I needed to buy another blower fan and get a professional to actually stick it in the machine.
The trick is simply to be ok with the fact that sometimes you will mess up and sometimes you will open something up and see that you really cannot do anything to it with what you know or the tools you have. Once you are ok with that (and know that those "warranty void if removed" stickers are complete BS and nothing more than scare tactics, at least in the US), open stuff up, see what is inside. Even a person with less than average intelligence can see simple problems or ways to improve stuff in many things that someone who is afraid of opening it up will simply trust to a repairman or get a new one.
Just remember the ludicrous amount of information available at the literal press of a few buttons. Even if you don't know where to start on something, someone on the internet does know. These days it is easier than ever to find such resources.
caveat: It is _my_ house, so work on the boiler is up to me. Also I had zero experience working on things like dryers prior to that.
If you do any soldering, use leaded solder it’s much easier to work with.
I grew up really poor. Most of the nice things I had as a teenager I had because other people discarded them and I figured out how to fix them. None of my friends had their own TV, but I had one rescued from a dumpster that worked good.
@@hohenzollern6025In fairness, there are still plenty of kids who take things apart and tinker, especially with so much info on the Internets. Sure, there are a lot of people who are afraid to try, but at least where I live, there are still plenty of whiz kids. The hacker mindset is still thriving.
I wonder why my new 2023 Chevy Bolt has heavy duty rubber mats inside on the cars floor in fron and in the rear. Is it to stop melted snow from our shoes getting into the bottom battery pack?
👏👏👏👏👏 great video
You hit the nail right on its head. Please keep fighting for the right to repair.
Rossman, you are the one who gives me a sliver of hope for humanity.
Agree. Video was a bit too long, but the take away message should be as follows:
We all need to start shifting back to...
(1) designing products that last a little longer,
(2) are a little easier to open up,
(3) are a little simpler to repair,
(4) are a little easier to find repair manuals & spare parts for,
(5) and crucially... slowly move towards a more circular economy, easing the burden on the planet, and our wallets.
I've had an issue with my car where the rear proximity sensors stopped working because some humidity from inside the car got into them. On the next day they dried up and started working, but if I went to official service probably would have had to replace all of the sensors.
As an automotive technician with HV certification, i personally think that no average joe without actual training in handling/repairing these systems and components should even be allowed to be responsible for fixing them, nor should the components be accessible to those people. It is simply too dangerous. There's a reason technicians like me are forced to wear high-voltage certified and tested electrical ppe to even touch those components, and be rigorously trained to handle them. Something as visually unseeming as an AC compressor or an inverter can (and likely will) carry lethal voltages even after all the HV cables are disconnected, and opening/disconnecting a HV battery or cable can lead to someone's death without warning, multiple deaths if rescue attempts are done the wrong way. Yes you will get shocked too if you so much as touch your buddy who just turned his body into a bridge between a hv battery and the literal ground. Yes you will die if you touch anything inside an EV's inverter. Yes you will die if you do not know how to properly disconnect a HV battery. Those are not exaggerations.
That is why the brands producing these vehicles should 100% be responsible for fixing them, thus preventing harm to their consumers.
Tesla being Tesla yet again isn't that big a surprise to begin with, and their predatory practices are the foremost reason everyone should stay away from them as a company. Just like how Apple charges hundreds of dollars to replace components that cost cents in production and Ford fucks over loyal customers again with every new model truck they produce, Tesla has always been a greedy shitshow of a company.
*EVs as a product are inherently anti-repair in some way or another.* That's just the sad reality. Sure you can get hot engine oil poured over your arms doing an oil and filter change on a 1999 Falcon, but at least you won't kill yourself. EVs are not, and have never been, the technology of the future. Whether that changes remains to be seen when batteries can finally be produced without relying on human exploitation and water pollution, which is unlikely however, considering we live in a greed-ridden corporate hellscape.
The "buy a new one" era is coming to an end. It existed primarily because as China industrialized low labor costs and cheap shipping made it cheap to manufacture overseas and ship to the US. Labor costs and shipping costs are rising, to say nothing of rising protectionism. People will soon have to try to fix things because there will not be replacements at the pricepoint people are used to.
@@512TheWolf512But the parts to do the repairs not there. Places stopped stocking certain parts because the replacements break while in warranty & they gotta keep taking the hit.
No it isn't it's alive and well working as intended with planned obsolescence is never going away until something fundamentally huge happens to how our economy works, money makes the world go round.
Nope, you’re wrong. Ownership will become too expensive and they will expect us to rent or service everything. It’s by design.
As if...😂😂😂. They all figured out they can erect impossibly high barriers to entry using our broken patent and copyright laws.
This... This is what I would call the worst timeline
When I was a young adult working on our various vehicles, it was a point of admiration to know how to fix your items. The more knowledge you acquired, the better. You did what you could up to and until a repair became beyond your ability/knowledge (whatever it was) and *then* took it to the mechanic. Same with house repairs, or simply fixing the electric can opener. What happened to that? I learned a lot more about how life works just by fixing that simple can opener. It's crazy
I know how to do a number of maintenance and repair tasks for my car, but I still take it to a trusted shop instead. 1. My free time is limited. 2. I don't have to buy all the tools and equipment needed only to use them once in a blue moon. 3. My diagnosis of the problem could be wrong, and they may find something else I didn't notice while poking around in there.
There's nothing wrong with paying people to do work they specialize in so your amatuer self doesn't have to muddle through it. That's the primary benefit of our current economic system.
@@chancekahle2214 Back in my motor head days, vehicles weren't like they are now, no tech, just moving parts. Learning how things work benefited me beyond motor repair. I wouldn't even dream of working on a car of today minus basic maintenance.
A big problem with DIY repairs is also part availibility, i currently have a slightly loose shifter in my car, it works fine it just has some of sideways slack.
You CAN take the shifter out, disassemble the assembly and the culprit seems to be a small "cup" bushing that the shifter pivots on.
My Toyota uses it and i found out some Hondas use the same piece, problem is that there is literally 0 acknowledgement ANYWHERE that that piece even exists, if you want to fix the thing, you need a whole new shifter assembly that's probably gonna have the same problem in a few years.
There are some similar pieces that are incompatible with my shifter, and after searching A LOT i haven't seen a single image of the piece or it even being referenced anywhere, not even in official Toyota dealership catalogues.
In 1999 at a small electronics shop I learned TV manufacturers switched from "Module vs Component" design every few years. Now I'm guessing it's all module design. Easier to diagnose but WAY more expensive.
doesn't the UK, and Europe in general, have better consumer protection laws? How did Musky manage to get away with such shenanigans over there?
We have the consumer protection act which means goods must be fit for purpose. I think driving a car when it rains should qualify.
The laws exist but if they don't sue Tesla, they get away with the shenanigans.
They’d win that in court. Just hard to take on a billion dollars company without them trying to out money you in court
Not sure about UK laws, but they left the EU, so none of the EU laws are in effect anymore.
Also Ireland is still in the EU. They're not apart of the UK. It's quite surprisingly a common misunderstanding.
Money.