The difference between Caesar and Octavian's Triumph Caesar looked like a god, a human form of jupiter or mars himself which lead to others suspecting that be wanted to be king which lead to his downfall. He never cared about the suspicions of his rivals because he had the people and the army on his back, which would be his downfall. Octavian kept his ears everywhere, and became very vigilant and careful. He satisfied the mob, kept the senate in check and somewhat contented and the army in good condition. He appeared like an approachable man with great accomplishments and learned that appearing kingly would get him killed.
I mean that's kind of true, but by that metric every triumphant general resembled Jupiter. Appearing as a king was only one contributing factor to Caesar's death. It could be argued that the only reason people felt confident enough to strike against Caesar was because of his adamant clemency towards Roman opponents. This meant that by the end of his Spanish campaign the senate again contained a sizeable faction of Pompeians which would continue to grow as he pardoned men. Octavian Caesar didn't fully learn from his father's mistake of appearing as a king, and if anything flaunted power more absolute than Julius had dreamt of. The main lesson he learned was to have all his political opponents proscribed and killed, a measure Caesar had not taken so as not to draw comparisons with Sulla. Young Octavian Caesar couldn't afford to be so honourable and so purged Rome of all rivals.
2:31 If you told me during season 1 that I'd ever feel bad for Atia I would never have believed you, but... goddamn. I spent so much of the series waiting for her to get her just deserts, but once she did it was just ashes in my mouth. This wonderful, _horrible_ character, performed so brilliantly by Polly Walker, injected so much life and drama into the show, and now she was just... empty. And I felt a little empty too.
Atia was a Roman matron of no real intelligence. She intrigued in the belief that she could play a political role. To this end, she prostituted herself to Antony to stay at the top of the social pyramid. Octavian was right to outvote her when he proposed Octavia to Antony. She forgot that she had duties, the first of which was to believe in her son and to serve him as soon as possible in the interests of the Julies' family. A vindictive fool who lost. That's Life
Atia was nothing at all in the political game. She was a proud Karen. She had Octavia's boyfriend murdered for no reason. She prostituted herself to Mark Antony to stay on top of the social ladder and underestimated Octavian by playing against him. She was not an exemplary matron. So I don't care about her sadness.
Atia was nothing at all in the political game. She was a proud Karen. She had Octavia's boyfriend murdered for no reason. She prostituted herself to Mark Antony to stay on top of the social ladder and underestimated Octavian by playing against him. She was not an exemplary matron. So I don't care about her sadness.
"I know who you are. You're swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember, far better women than you have sworn to do the same. Go look for them now." Atia ♥️
Even tho it's a cool dialogue, I never understood why they wrote that scene. Livia was one of the most powerful women in the history of Rome if not the most powerful one
There is no evidence that Atia Balba and Marc Antony had any relationship at all. Octavia Minor (sister to Octavian, daughter of Atia) married Marc Antony after Atia's death. So they were never in laws while she was alive. Unfortunately Atia's presence in that scene, and in fact her presence in season 2 in any capacity is entirely anachronistic. Atia died in 43 B.C, 13 years before Marc Antony's death.
@@devdixit2440 and Gnaeus Pompeius was not killed by Marc Anthony and managed to conquer Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica (also South Greece) later, but it is just TV series.
@@nevidomuy3640 Gnaeus Pompey isn't killed by Marc Antony in this TV series, he's killed by a soldier of the Ptolemies when he lands in Egypt, whilst his wife and children watch, this is actually how he died. This is the link to his death in this TV show: czcams.com/video/k3buhlYVLOs/video.html It's pretty much accurate. I think you're confused with Quintus Pompey, the son of Pompey according to this show, who was killed by Marc Antony in the show. But that's because Pompey didn't have a son called Quintus, his son was called Sextus and was killed by Miletus. They cut out Pompey's other exploits due to time constraints.
A monster? Augustus was by far the greatest Roman there was! What he did with Rome was make it the most powerfull and wealthy empire the world had ever seen. The guy was a genius. Look up what he did for Rome and how he perfected trade and economy. No one was his equal by intelligence and logic.
This is the full version It’s exactly what played in the last few minutes of the show. There is a variation, Caesar‘a triumph, where it plays when the city was preparing for the triumph, before Pullo is rejected from participating in uniform This version is for the finale, where Octavian celebrates his victory against cleopatra and her slave, Marc Antony
The difference between Caesar and Octavian's Triumph
Caesar looked like a god, a human form of jupiter or mars himself which lead to others suspecting that be wanted to be king which lead to his downfall. He never cared about the suspicions of his rivals because he had the people and the army on his back, which would be his downfall.
Octavian kept his ears everywhere, and became very vigilant and careful. He satisfied the mob, kept the senate in check and somewhat contented and the army in good condition. He appeared like an approachable man with great accomplishments and learned that appearing kingly would get him killed.
“Not king, merely first citizen”
Not true the people loved Caesar and never were in fear of him. Caesar treated the citizens of Rome very well.
@@caiuspostumiusturrinus1024he was a split figure
@@jtgd When he was assassinated it sent the populace into an uprising against the government...
I mean that's kind of true, but by that metric every triumphant general resembled Jupiter. Appearing as a king was only one contributing factor to Caesar's death. It could be argued that the only reason people felt confident enough to strike against Caesar was because of his adamant clemency towards Roman opponents. This meant that by the end of his Spanish campaign the senate again contained a sizeable faction of Pompeians which would continue to grow as he pardoned men. Octavian Caesar didn't fully learn from his father's mistake of appearing as a king, and if anything flaunted power more absolute than Julius had dreamt of. The main lesson he learned was to have all his political opponents proscribed and killed, a measure Caesar had not taken so as not to draw comparisons with Sulla. Young Octavian Caesar couldn't afford to be so honourable and so purged Rome of all rivals.
2:31 If you told me during season 1 that I'd ever feel bad for Atia I would never have believed you, but... goddamn. I spent so much of the series waiting for her to get her just deserts, but once she did it was just ashes in my mouth. This wonderful, _horrible_ character, performed so brilliantly by Polly Walker, injected so much life and drama into the show, and now she was just... empty. And I felt a little empty too.
Why does she feel sorry for a man who abandoend her, cheated on her and wanted her son dead???
@@luiousy7329 She’s Roman 😂
Atia was a Roman matron of no real intelligence. She intrigued in the belief that she could play a political role. To this end, she prostituted herself to Antony to stay at the top of the social pyramid. Octavian was right to outvote her when he proposed Octavia to Antony. She forgot that she had duties, the first of which was to believe in her son and to serve him as soon as possible in the interests of the Julies' family. A vindictive fool who lost. That's Life
Atia was nothing at all in the political game. She was a proud Karen. She had Octavia's boyfriend murdered for no reason. She prostituted herself to Mark Antony to stay on top of the social ladder and underestimated Octavian by playing against him. She was not an exemplary matron. So I don't care about her sadness.
Atia was nothing at all in the political game. She was a proud Karen. She had Octavia's boyfriend murdered for no reason. She prostituted herself to Mark Antony to stay on top of the social ladder and underestimated Octavian by playing against him. She was not an exemplary matron. So I don't care about her sadness.
Those violen . Those violen. Beautiful. Haunting.
This soundtrack sums up history so well, it is magnificent and beautiful, omnious and tense, and then tragic and heartbreaking
2:07 the Roman Empire is BORN!!!
@Guilherme M - what?
The dearh if The Republic, the death of the real Rome.
@Guilherme the Byzantine empire is the Roman empire reborn and improved upon - because it has Jesus.
@@Emy-fv5ny The real Rome was and always will be the Empire. Not the corrupted Republic.
@@valentineradushev1473🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I know who you are. You're swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember, far better women than you have sworn to do the same. Go look for them now."
Atia ♥️
Even tho it's a cool dialogue, I never understood why they wrote that scene. Livia was one of the most powerful women in the history of Rome if not the most powerful one
@@randomuser6175Julia Domna and Theodora might have a thing or two to say about that. Not very far from the truth though
@@VicāriusHispāniārum thank you for the confirmation I am relieved
@@randomuser6175 you are welcome
Love the scene, when Atia look at the Anthony`s corpse
There is no evidence that Atia Balba and Marc Antony had any relationship at all. Octavia Minor (sister to Octavian, daughter of Atia) married Marc Antony after Atia's death. So they were never in laws while she was alive.
Unfortunately Atia's presence in that scene, and in fact her presence in season 2 in any capacity is entirely anachronistic. Atia died in 43 B.C, 13 years before Marc Antony's death.
@@devdixit2440 and Gnaeus Pompeius was not killed by Marc Anthony and managed to conquer Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica (also South Greece) later, but it is just TV series.
@@nevidomuy3640 Gnaeus Pompey isn't killed by Marc Antony in this TV series, he's killed by a soldier of the Ptolemies when he lands in Egypt, whilst his wife and children watch, this is actually how he died.
This is the link to his death in this TV show:
czcams.com/video/k3buhlYVLOs/video.html
It's pretty much accurate.
I think you're confused with Quintus Pompey, the son of Pompey according to this show, who was killed by Marc Antony in the show. But that's because Pompey didn't have a son called Quintus, his son was called Sextus and was killed by Miletus.
They cut out Pompey's other exploits due to time constraints.
@@devdixit2440 yeah, I confused Gnaeus Pompeus with his son Sextus, who later was pretty successful in war campaigns.
@@devdixit2440 pretty bad show ended too fast(
Rome's first citizen.
And King
@@raosikander3210 Emperor, romans had kings before the republic
@@raosikander3210 no king, merely first Citizen... - Octavian.
@@raosikander3210 the first emperor to be a 'king' was Diocletianus, who had the official title of 'Dominus' instead of 'princeps'
@@gertvandenberghe5914 Thanks for letting me know 😊
2:07 The Fire Rises
7spooky and the Roman Empire is BORN!
7spooky - I love this comment 😂🤘🏼
Gloria as Romana
The last part is heartbreaking.
Soundtrack gets so sad when it shows Marc Anthony's body in the chariot
Abel Braga and Atia’s stare of despair
Salve, Caesar Augustus!
No one close to the fictional Octavian has much stomach for the new world order that he has devised with his cold, calculating genius.
No one close to the real Octavian, that opposed him, had any sort of functional organ left - including a stomach - by the time Pax Romana came to be.
Oh, Livia had the stomach for it...
Badass!
If that isn’t, I don’t know what is. Lol 0:53
does it have a full version? i love the hook. the real power
"Triumph" is the full thing
Who is Octavian? He is Caesar. Gaius Julius Caesar Divi Filius Augustus
the roman empire was born at 2:06
2:04
Caesar!!!!
Seeing Anthony’s body and Atia looking away you realize a monster was made:
A monster? Augustus was by far the greatest Roman there was! What he did with Rome was make it the most powerfull and wealthy empire the world had ever seen. The guy was a genius. Look up what he did for Rome and how he perfected trade and economy. No one was his equal by intelligence and logic.
salve lucio voreno
Kinda reminds me of the song Blood Smile from the Joker movie.
Rome Fighting Gauls
is Caesar's Triumph
imagine feeling to trick an much older people to get power...
le sexe le sang le pouvoir
The full version is deleted?
This is the full version
It’s exactly what played in the last few minutes of the show.
There is a variation, Caesar‘a triumph, where it plays when the city was preparing for the triumph, before Pullo is rejected from participating in uniform
This version is for the finale, where Octavian celebrates his victory against cleopatra and her slave, Marc Antony