Switchback Turns || MTB Cornering: Practice Like a Pro #11
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2020
- Making a fast recovery from the broken collarbone, Linnea is ready to ride again! She and Simon kick off her return to bikes with a session on switchback turns. This is a great lower-consequence skill to practice, and you won't be tempted to hop off your bike the next time you encounter one on the trail.
Key Takeaways:
1. Remember "Straight and late" - Enter on the inside of the turn; make pre-turn late
2. Commit to the pre-turn and rotate your hips using footwork
3. The pre-turn allows your bike to create an offset wheel path
4. Dip and pressure the outside foot through the final turn
Get easy access to Simon's most famous teaching points as you follow Fluidride’s @linnearooke through her learning progression, and gain insights for your own riding.
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Linnea has been racing locally in the pro category, but until this year she had almost no formal training and was held back by major gaps in her technique. While she was able to carry speed well on straight downhills and high-bermed turns, she lacked foundational cornering skills and was timid in the air. In Feb 2020, she met up with Fluidride to help with a filming trip in Baja, and was fascinated by Simon's teaching methods. Wanting to be part of this mission, she left her career in healthcare in July 2020 to officially join the Fluidride team as COO. We started filming this series to document her journey of cleaning up bad habits, adding new skills to her toolkit, and chasing her dream of riding with style.
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The reason for the pre turn finally makes sense to me now after watching this. Yay!
Agree!
Ah we're so stoked to hear this!!
its a game changer for me too right now, can't wait to go try it!! I have very steep switchback I can practice on at my local trails, always had a hard time getting through them, but the offset wheels make so much sense.
I saw Linnea smash her collarbone 1 week ago, with a new video now she's almost fully recovered. Gotta give props to you guys for managing your video output schedule. Seamless. Love your content. Keep it up guys. Winning
Aw thanks for this awesome note! We had filmed ahead several weeks, just so we weren't scrambling with editing... didn't expect to need that time because I broke myself, but it certainly paid off 🤣 -Linnea
Thanks
Appreciate you are featuring more female MTB riders in your videos. Thumbs up!
Thanks so much! We'll be featuring some other rad ladies soon too! Excited to share those videos
Women rule
Tight switchbacks are my nemesis. This information is a game changer! Thank you so much. I feel like calling-out sick from work tomorrow and going to the local trail that kicks my arse with the switchbacks and just practicing this all day. 😁
1. Great to se Linnea back at it!
2. I've been riding for years now and consider myself a decent rider, but I never thought about pre-turns in switchbacks and how they change the rear wheel path. This video is an eye opener. I'll be trying this technique next time I'm in more technical terrain!
We're so pumped to hear this! Let us know how it goes 🤘🥳
So true 👍can't believe I been going wide and cutting in for all thse years😡😡😡dam now we have access to the pro secrets 🙏🙏😍😍👍
She is a real go-getter so energetic!
Thanks Caleb!!
I 43 year old learned from your videos! Thank you. Stay hard. Subscribed!
Thanks so much for watching!!
This video was awesome for several reasons... #1 Linnea is just too cute and great to see her happy and riding after only 4 weeks (I'm 9 weeks out from my broken wrist and still don't feel good holding the bars) #2 great demo turns and it makes so much sense #3 you guys are having a lot more fun, and there's even funny moments too. Sound wasn't always good on both of you. But really good video and instruction!
Aw thanks so much John! And thanks for your wonderful support. I'm bummed about your crash - wrists are so much more challenging to recover from 😐. I hope you're not far out from feeling your normal self again. We'll see if we can work out the audio issues on the next one - that's is good to know. Sending you our best healing vibes!
Good to see Linnea in good shape again! :)
Thanks Marek! Recovery was crazy fast
So happy to see Linnea riding again !!!
Thanks for the support!
This has been an outstanding lesson to learn. The skill is not intuitive and you have made it easy. I cannot wait to try this tomorrow.
We're stoked to hear this! Let us know how it goes
Welcome back!!! Really great lesson on crazy tight corners! No one ever showed me that technique, I've seen it done but didn't realize why someone ahead of me could make the turn when I couldn't... smart!
We're pumped to hear this - so glad the visuals are helpful!
Another great demo from Simon and Linnea! Great to see Linnea back on the bike. I too had seen riders do pre-turning but not explained (had an old dirt school video by Chris Ball (uk) where I could see him do pre-turns but never mentioned why). Keep up these excellent vid!
Thanks for the awesome comment, Simon! We're stoked to hear that the content is helpful. Lots more coming ✨
I am glad I found this because switchbacks are my #1 nemesis!
Let us know if this helps! Switchbacks are great because they can be a low-consequence skill to add to your toolkit
Yes this is incredible! Congratulations on the healing and fantastic video once again. Stay safe.
Thanks for the support Marcel!
I am completely hooked on these videos, they are just awesome, things really start to fall in place when you guys explain them that well THANKS!!
We're glad you like them Megan and happy to hear that you're learning a few things along the way! - Coach Kagen
Man, this surgeon who does the rods is pretty impressive. Great to see you back on your bike shredding again Linnea.
this is one of the best subtle tips ive seen on youtube! never seen someone explain the reason for the scandi-flick like that, makes so much sense
This isn't a scandi flick, a scandi flick is when you use the pre turn to make the back wheel follow a wider path than the front. This is the opposite.
@@Slipperygecko390 even better, thanks Tobias!
Ah we'll have to do a video on the scandi flick too!
I Definitely learned something, you just earned a new subscriber! 😀
Wow ! What a great video...super informative! Thanks !
good follow-up drills.
Awesome stuff!
Iam Glad to see her back in business ✌️
Thanks Tony!!
So glad to see you back!!!
Thanks for the support, Jax!
really enjoying these tips guys ,,, Ive been mntn biking since 1987 and we didnt have this sort of resource back then so I`m unlearning a lot of my riding now at my tender age of **yrs ... your annalysyis really helps ... love it :-)
Dang this actually is so good. You guys seriously solved a 10 year long riding problem for me in a two hour session tonight after work. Helped me turn a major weakness into a point of confidence. Can't wait to practice this more. Cheers!
Awesome!! So glad it helped! Happy trails Tobias - Simon
This is an awesome video. For the first time I think I get it 😀. And I think I know exactly where those trails are at Duthie to try it out.
I also tried it with my truck on a switchback - same principle
welcome back
Thanks Bo!
I can't get enough of these videos 😍dam soo good now it's raining out have to wait a day to kill this technique 🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍the wait is gonna kill me
Impressive how fast Linnea has recovered and is riding out of fear. On the other side, this video will give me nice tips for sure, I'm very bad at tight turns. Keep doing please!
We're stoked about the recovery! Way better than we expected even. Thanks for the awesome feedback - lots more content dropping soon
Awesome thanks... this very similar to the scandinavian flick for mtbs without the drift. This is the first time I’ve see this taught.
Greetings lynea Wow that was a quick recovery, how good that you are back on track. Blessings!!!
Thanks for the support, Enrique! Recovery is going so well!
Great tutorials, among the best!
Thanks for the note Jon!
Helpful thank you. The annotations on screen are most helpful. Amazing vid quality with that camera too
This is the best you have ever show back foot/front foot and the "why" of it.
Thanks for this awesome feedback Chris!
Hm, what a bit front wheel load, it looked like you were a bit light there… :) And: in Switzerland and France, where you guys like to ride, this turns are normal curves and no switchbacks. And to make it more interesting they are a) steeper and b) rocky, so you are afraid of locking your front wheel… Switchbacks are here when you need to lift and move your rear wheel… :) Great videos guys, like your vibes! 😊
You are an amazing human. Great recovery.
Thanks for all your support Eric! -Linnea
Hey Linnea, well done with the super fast recovery. So confident on the bike.
Excellent tips Simon - I've always been overwhelmed by Switchback turns. I'll be putting that into practice for sure ';~}
Hope you do cover the Scandi flick soon guys. It seems just impossible to practice that one.
Nice to hear Simon say that he's not been able to do the Cuss Hollow climb - I don't feel so bad about failing so many times!
It's so hidden... really cool that you know about this trail!
@@Fluidride Ha! I know about it because Simon recommended it - after doing the Advanced Adult 2 day with him and Chris last year, he suggested we give it a try!
She's a cool girl and tough.. back at it ! Nice job and I love the technique. I will be using it.
Glad to see you are back on your feet again! And great job to both of you for the tutorials! Have been off the bike myself due to shoulder injury and just got back in it after 4 weeks... Been a while since having so much fun! Keep up the good work!
Aw dang - really sorry to hear about your crash 😐. 4 weeks is a fast recovery though! Thanks for watching the videos too 🥳
Anyone else see that guy crash at 5:27?
The one down vote is from the guy that crashed.
HAH thank you for pointing that out, cracked me up.
🤣🤣🤣 such a good eye. We truly did not even notice this 🤣
Lol..hope he is ok..it seems he had a front wheel washed out.
Probably shocked to see Linnea back on a bike already !
Would have loved to see you do the traditional wide cornering approach back to back with this pre-turn so that we can appreciate the difference. But we could always try to do these in real life. But still, again , would have loved tobsee you do it.
Ah good call - thanks Jak!
Awesome video, one of my local trails has some pretty tight switch backs that I can never carry speed through (end up in a terrible track stand and creep through them). Can’t wait to try this straight and late approach!
Ah we can't wait to hear how it goes! It can help to review video of yourself too!
This seems to be a good way to go where it is very hard, or even Impossible to lift the rear wheel or do a Scandinavian Flick. Plus it is easier to learn.
Gonne try this on my next ride.
Great series! You're a damn good teacher. And Linnea is awesome!✌🏻😎🤘🏻
Yeah, this will get you around most turns Jurgen. When they are impossibly tight, we can sometimes use a nose pivot, but it's rare. We do discuss that move in our online school at fluidrideonline.com. Happy trails!
@@Fluidride Thanx.👍🏻
When the trail is steep, do you prefer nose-pivoting, or the pre-turn?
Best regards from Germany 🙂
Lots of switchbacks here in KY and I lose so much momentum so I'm sure going to be practicing the pre-turn. Thanks!!!
Awesome - thanks for watching and let us know how it goes!
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Wow, this is such an insightful tutorial! If you push this into an extreme, would that make it a Scandinavian Flick?
I broke my right clavicle two weeks ago similar to yours doing a double and over shoot the landing which I went over the handlebar. Fortunately doctor recommended no surgery but I’m missing MTB. Great video BTW
Oh man, that sounds like a big crash! Nice to not need surgery. Especially because the hardware usually means two surgeries... one to also remove it. Wishing you a fast and full recovery
Duluth MN has some tight and little to no berm switchbacks. May have to try some of these techniques!
We’ve heard Duluth has some great riding!
Dam such great stuff glad I am still young enough to use these tips🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏👍👍👍
Wow, i just found your channel and 2 weeks ago into a wet rooty corner my front tire washed out and laded on my right collar bone breaking it. Now i’m in my 60’s so healing may be a tad slower than you. I can’t wait to get back on the bike. Now never broke anything many years of MTS lots of cuts and bruises.
Ahh we are so sorry to hear about your collarbone - that is always such a disappointment... and they're so easy to break. We hope you're well on your way to healing!!
I learn a lot from these videos just by watching. Still struggling to follow the lingo--front foot turn, back foot turn....but I get it by watching. Actually used some of the training from the riding loose video. Wish I was closer to take advantage of some of your clinics/training ops.
Thanks. Keep filming, please. It's making a difference.
It can be confusing to understand to start. We believe in teaching riders to ride the way pros do and it's not always super simple. If you want an in depth breakdown, there is a LOT more (25 hours of content) available at fluidrideonline.com., which is our online school. The tutorials there are longer and go into a lot more depth. The site is free for 14 days, so you could study up on this and bail if you aren't sold on the rest - which I hope you will be:). The site is less than $10/month, and we've had amazing results with riders who use the site and train with our system remotely. Thanks for checking in, and keep practicing. We'll keep the free content coming even if you don't check us out at fludirideonline!
I'm curious your thoughts on endo turns, especially when switchbacks get impossibly tight.. definitely a bit advanced, but it'd be cool to see a video on that someday.
We have a tutorial on that method at www.fluidrideonline.com. The site is free for 14 days, so you could check that out and anything else you want at no cost. If you stay on, it's less than $10/month. Our students on the site are making incredible progress. Check it out if you can!
I am going to try it. Even though I don't get the reasoning.
Pre turn will create an offset wheel path? The offset wheel path is always there when you make a slow turn with lots of steering input and less tilt.
When the back wheel is more on the inside, it will roll slower.
This stuff is pretty contra intuitive and I am not sure about the reasoning.
The scandi flick movement looks dope though, will give it a try.
It's a shame that there is no such thing in Europe, especially in Germany like you. I love your Pro Practical series. I am learning so many new things. It's just a shame that nobody looks at it later to make improvements. Keep it up. Absolutely recommendable. LG Britta :)
Thank you so much Britta, for your comment and for watching! We're stoked to hear that you're learning some new things along the way! 🥳 - Coach Kagen
And, we are now filming in Europe as in yesterday, today and this week. We are in the Alps! You will see content you might recognize soon! -Simon
@@Fluidride Oh yes, I see it today. Amazing
Not reeeeeealy sure she should be riding 4 weeks after such a nasty break but good to see her back. Just hope she doesn’t fall on it 🤞🏻
Yeah we were amazed how fast the recovery was going! She was cleared to ride carefully though, and wasn't in any pain. Will be great to get the rod out soon cause you're definitely right... don't want to fall on it 😬
That Santa Cruz Tallboy is beautiful. What's your experience with it?
Love the videos. But.... whoever is doing the sound.... please balance out the mics! We have one crazy loud and one super quiet. It would make the videos so much more enjoyable.
Thanks for the feedback! We'll pass this along 👍
@@Fluidride 👌 thanks!
Great videos. Separated my shoulder last year and almost tossed cookies looking at Linea's x-rays. Glad she's back out. Question: How do you handle braking in the switchbacks? Thanks!
Thanks Tom! Linnea is back and charging! You can brake with both brakes up to the beginning of a switchback then let off the front brake. It's okay to use the back brake a bit as it will help bring the back wheel around in some turns. I think of the middle of the U as the place where I get off the front brake. Hope this helps! -Simon
On most illegal euro trail you'll find tighter switchbacks but with few big rocks in the middle, off camber and with a -20% slope :')
Can you describe how you tackle these then? Endo?
Interesting, will give these a try. Looks like a slower version of the scandi flick. Thnx
Yes indeed. Add some speed and let off the front brake in the pre-turn and you have a Scandi! -Simon
@@Fluidride I finally understand that `opposite wheel path` that you were talking about. The back wheel is so close to the inside of the turn, it has more time to complete the turn. And I thought the sole purpose of scandi flicks are to just look steezy (which is my goal in life 😊) but now that I saw your explanation, I think it will actually help you. Like the rally cars... Can't wait to try this!
@@bauke-LV426 Exactly! Yes, the Scandi actually has a purpose. Now it's rally time! -Simon
8:16 “Linnea, she can ride it!”
While not always possible what do you think about throwing a pedal stroke in so your turns are always back foot turns regardless of direction? I find without a dropper on my XC bike it isn’t always easy to get hips rotated on foot forward turns. Just wondering
Thanks for your tips, it really helps. What about uphill switchback turns? any difference?
They are different since you are pedaling when climbing. There is a super helpful trick though! Make a 90 degree turn at the beginning of the turn, and then pedal hard and aim at the bank with the front wheel. Let the wheel ping off the bank to make the last 90 and complete the turn. This makes climbing difficult switchbacks a breeze. -Simon
Fluidride, what vids should I watch to get a better handle on the basic footwork you're using here?
Such a great question! Here are some that will be helpful: #1. Flatland Turns Drill: czcams.com/video/OGfTHN_e9WU/video.html #2. Slalom Drill: czcams.com/video/aftI8GJB3Rk/video.html #3. Bike-Body separation review: czcams.com/video/iAoo2phuDO0/video.html #4. Slalom Drill in the series: czcams.com/video/775zYPZvOvk/video.html #5. Pre-Turns in the series: czcams.com/video/7dVRTvk6Wac/video.html I hope some of these will help!
What? She is back!?
Yeah!! We had filmed ahead so that bought us some extra recovery time 🤪
When do you break?
Ok I have this following case : a very tight singletrack, the very tight switchback approaches it's almost flat, pre-turn is impossible because of tightness, and the switchback goes very steep. How do you ride that? Cut before in the grass with rear "handbrake" rally style? Only ride bike park?
This can be done on SUPER narrow trails. The key is to go into the weeds a bit on the pre-turn to the inside of the trail and then 'high mark' up in the ferns or whatever is there with the actual turn. This is actually an especially helpful tool on narrow and steep trails like we ride it the Alps each summer. I hope this helps! -Simon
Your cattle dog is camera shy..nice one, you can ride now..
That's Ryder 🤣 Yeah back on the bike - feels so good!
Is it the same technique going up?
Did she recover already from that broken collarbone?
Yes! Cleared to ride. We had been filming ahead for editing time, so that gave her extra time to recover. She was riding with full strength and no pain in 3 1/2 weeks. We didn't want to keep everyone waiting when we had more content to share 🤪
Linnea, how long between your fall and your surgery?
I'll answer for her. Was 7 days. You have to wait for swelling to go down. We were SO lucky to literally be ale to get the best surgeon for this surgery as he invented it. He was excited to see it badly broken so he could have a challenge. Linnea seemed to actually enjoy the whole experience. I'll just say I was humbled by the whole thing. -Simon
@@Fluidride definitely lucky! I just had this happen in October - I had to wait 10 days for surgery, mine was broken in three also. BUT, I am at 6 weeks and still am not cleared to lift anything! I had a plate and 11 screws. It's been super frustrating, but it was also super swollen and painful up until last week. I'm just getting range of motion back. I'm jealous she is healing so fast! (I'm also probably 20 years older than she, so.... haha!)
What bikes are you both riding?
I'm on an Evil Insurgent LB and Simon I believe is on a Santa Cruz Hightower! -Linnea
never really did a preturn but when the season comes back i am down to give it a try
Rad - let us know how it goes!
Wondering if someone can explain exactly what he means when he talks about foot work, and front foot, back foot? I ride with my right foot forward if that matters. Thank you.
It's the interplay between the legs which is how a bike is correctly steered - from the lower body. Just as when we walk, the right leg turns us left and the left leg turns us right. So if you are right foot forward, you would press your front foot to turn left and your back foot to turn right. There is a LOT about this on this channel in other videos. It's really the key to riding a bike well. I hope this helps! -Simon
Thankyou. So am I correct in saying that with the right foot forward you would pedal forward slightly to turn left, and pedal your back left foot backwards to turn right?
@@voges14 Correct! I noticed you are looking at switchback turns, so there are actually two footwork movements per turn in a switchback because there is a 'pre-turn'. When done properly, this means dipping once for the pre-turn and once for the turn when done perfectly. Switchbacks are much more advanced since the pre-turn is done so close to the turn, so just practice basic footwork when riding, then add in switchback practice once you are feeling natural with your footwork. Happy trails!
One week to recover from broken collarbone? Ummm. Hmmm. Anyway, love this series.
Magic of using a content release schedule
Yeah we film ahead for editing time, so this actually gave us a great buffer for this unexpected crash! At the start of the video we mention this is filmed 4 weeks post surgery... and we'll be doing this for the next several videos so people know where we're at in the recovery process 🤪 You're totally right - 1 week is simply *not* realistic. Glad you're enjoying the videos 🥳
First commebt. Great to see you back Linnea.
Thanks for the support!
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No idea what you mean by back foot or front foot turn? A little explanation would have helped.
There is heap of information around this on this page. It's a big question, but basically we press the right foot to turn left and left to turn right. If you are left foot forward (about 60% of riders), to turn left you would press the back foot and to turn right you would press the front (left foot). If you are right foot forward on the bike (about 40% of riders) the inverse is true. This is really the key to riding the way pros ride. Hope this helps. -Simon
But in a really narrow single track switchbacks there is no room to make a pre-turn.
Yeah that's true! We'll bring out some other techniques for that 🤘 In the PNW, we don't get many tight switchbacks but they're definitely more common in other parts of the country and the world!
wouldn't u just want to skadi flick
So essentially, go slow but do it fast.
5:26 but someone in the background doesn't seem to be awesome
🤣🤣🤣 I had to go back at watch this. Good eye! -Linnea
Those aren’t even tight