The Future of Gaming
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- In this video I discuss how I see the future of video game distribution and accessibility, with Gamepass and Netflix effectively setting things in motion. We will likely own nothing other than a digital internet game box.
What do you think? With Microsoft making some strange decisions, I could be wrong.
Let’s see! - Hry
People don't realize how dangerous a digital only future is. But that's another discussion, for me ... physical media only.
Yeah, I’d imagine to be a lot to say on that side of things!
@@RetroRangerReviews88 I live in a first world north western European country and we're much closer to a digital only social credit system than Russia will be in 50 years.
All under the guise of safety and convinience ...
Boy, where did I hear these words before 😂
Every day, retro gaming makes more and more sense.
I take comfort in the knowledge that even if the games industry does go fully digital and/or down the subscription route, the retro market will still be physical.
Not just the security of owning a physical copy. But the enjoyment of going to a real place and buying it, with cash. Whether it's a dedicated retro games store, a pawn shop, or a yard sale.
Picking up games at yard sales is honestly honestly one of my favourite things to do ever!
Fortunately Game Pass isn't growing as much as Microsoft would want and now Xbox is has been killed. Microsoft is ESG compliant so good riddance billy boy
It’s going to be very interesting to see how it all plays out!
Finally someone who really understands what’s going on. Keep getting your voice out there and participating in the discourse.
@@J86237 If you're into the discourse I can recommend a few people on CZcams for you. Griffin Gaming, Ptolemy, Disillusioned Player & last Synthethic Man. If you're involved with Gamer Gate 2 and the Blackrock discourse, you will likely enjoy these 4 CZcamsrs.
The problem with physical media in the last 2 generation was that by the time the physical media was printed the game was not in a really playable state.
Pretty much every game requires a day one patch in order to start propperly.
I remember when Doom 2016 was ported to Switch and the physical copy contained all the single player elements and the patch was the multiplayer. This made perfect sense. That is how it should be done. But than there is the devil in carnage Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 (2023). This game has a physical edition with just 70MB on the blu ray disc. The full game is around 180GB. I recently listened to a podcast in which the host complained how he tried to install the game and it said download 80GB. These 80GB were just parts of the multiplayer. Than he had to watch a fullscren add for whatever was in the battlepass at the time. Than he could select campaign and the game started to download 50GB. Than you probally think the game started. Wrong. The game told him he needed the second part of the campaign so another 50GB had to be downloaded. Then of course he had to watch another 3 separate adds for multiplayer content before he could start the campaign, which was only 3 hours long and every mission took place on a multiplayer level cutout, was boring and had next to no presentation worh mentioning.
Why can't the game ask me at the start what part I want to download? Why does the physical disk have no playable content at all?
And who thought this garbage was worth full prize?
The problem you mentioned how services like Netflix don't keep shows around and remove them from their library with no intent to ever put them back is scary. The same thing can happen to every gaming service. They can be like "we made all the money we can make with this game we will not renew our license for this". I have 0 faith that companies like EA and Ubisoft will keep track of their stuff. EA stated multiple times that they don't want you to play their old games. Play our new stuff as we don't make money from our old stuff at all.
There are services that offer an actual attempt at game preservation like Antstream Arcade with over 1000 retro games available from the ZX Spectrum al the way to the PS1. And they stated that they make sure if a license expires to renew it if possible. That is a service I can get behind. Stuff like EA play and whatever Ubisoft is offering is pathetic. The selection is pretty much nothing worth an anual fee and you don't get access to the newer stuff they release making it not worth buying. I know the quote from one of the Ubisoft executives has been taken out of context alot. When he was asked what would need to happen to make cloudgaming and gaming subscrition services the norm he awnserd "gamer would need to get comfortable not owning their games. They have gotten used to this with movies and music already." I fully understand what he ment and I find it wrong how people remove this out of context.
My main problem is that every company out there is asking for an anual fee and offers next to no content at all. Why would I pay 4,99 a month for the access to 14 games, when I can just buy 1 or 2 games I actually want?
You can quote me on this. If you think you can justify an anual fee for a subscription you have to offer loads of content with consitant updates and more games added. If you continue to refuse to do this you have to get comfortable with not seeing a single penny from me.
What you said about the internet outage hit home pretty hard for me. I recently played through the first Golden Sun on GBA through my Nintendo Switch Online service. This service is supposed to give me access for retrogames as long as I connect to the internet at least once per week. Turns out this once per week is always friday for me. So when I had an internet outage from friday to sunday I couldn't play Golden Sun at all. This frustrated me. I had decided to play Golden Sun via NSO because I wanted Nintendo to see that people like me are still interested in these 20 year old games. I have the game digitally on my Wii U and that gives me permanent access to game after it's downloaded. This is why physical media is so important to me. I want access to these games as reliable as possible. My current favorite method is to download the rom on an everdrive and playing the game like that. It's getting really difficult to trust these companies.
I really like your breakdown of my video and how it’s actually applying to the experiences you’ve had! As far as I’m concerned if I hand money to somebody in exchange for something I should be able to access it under any condition. The fact that I’m paying money for something that requires a constant Internet connection is a joke. 😐
Hey dude, awesome channel. I just found your channel and i feel the same way about some of these stuff. I am from Brazil and here it's pretty common to still find people playing the ps2 and x360 everyday. But i see so many younger people that cant have fun with simpler games. I have 3 kids, and i am introducing them to older games (snes, ps1 and others). When we play newer games its mostly indies or retro themed. I have saw way too many kids their age that cant play these stuff to risk rising my own not playing the classic gems.
Hello Brazil! Wow it’s incredible how my content has reached people from all over the world! I agree, my son doesn’t care for the newest thing. I could put on a ps1 game and he’ll still want to play it!
@@RetroRangerReviews88 keep doing this good work and you will reach many more. Brazil is big in retro gaming, especially in the 35+ age. I am 26 but I was raised in a rural (countryside? I don't know the proper term) small city, and technology took a while to get here, my first console was a SNES. Brazil used to be 5 years behind but in many small cities it could be 10+ years behind.
This has been happening in the TV and movie space for years now, as well as the music industry, but the difference is that there are sizeable niche audiences there that still buy physical releases. For gaming, especially for PC, that isn’t even an option. If I want a game, I pretty much have to get it digitally.
It’s pretty bloody concerning!
If they can't put a game on the disc why don't they give us 2 discs with the game they did that with the 360
I have no idea 😐
Likely production cost and how many discs would be needed. CoD would need like 10 discs☠️
Also isn't conducive to the live service model in the case of multiplayer, I guess
Let's not forget about data caps. Not everyone has unlimited internet access.
Just another reason why I'm not interested in modern gaming.
It’ll be interesting to see if my prediction is correct 🤔
Excellent channel. I just stumbled across it and I've been going through your content. I've been primarily a PC player which unfortunately means digital only from the 2010s onwards for the most part. However, whenever I buy console games I prefer them physical. Between games being delisted or licensed content being stripped out after a contract ends, I just want a physical item that contains the game as it was released.
Also, what's the game that you're playing at the start of the video? Thanks!
Thanks mate! That’s Wanted Weapons of Fate 🙂
I think PC ditched physical media quite some time ago. It started with them making cases without drive bays. While you can get external, I think most just found it easier to download. As for steam library share thing, as long as a person isn't playing a game (they can be online) the game share works, example - im online not playing any game but I've got steam open and I've shared my library with you. You can play any of my games (that allow it, not all do) until I launched a game it would boot you out.
I've had quite a number of games on steam that have been removed and never came back to store. I can still play/download said games, same with ps3/ps vita in my case, however I believe there isn't anything stopping them from removing content from your account, it's quite possible and people don't like the idea of that being a possible outcome (and I agree) and also I have bought a few discs (2011) of games and yeah...the disc saved you from needing the internet to download the steam game, other than that it was useless (and outdated).
People will turn to piracy (most) if they start deleting content (I believe months/last year ago Sony did this with TV series or something that people had paid for). But that's another whole can of worms...they leaves open more chances of hackers/virus makers to infect/get more people. I was a bit of a pirate back in my day due to no gaming stores or money and while you could get viruses and such back then, you just used a bit of common sense and you'd be fine. These days I'm out of the game for the most part and I feel lost and more so I've gotten a few nasty things from said download lol and overall its a little bit harder (perhaps because I stopped for years).
I have xbox pass myself for the free games, but I barley touch it...I got it for MS Flight sim 2020 as I wanted to try it but I'm not a plane guy so wasn't interested in buying/pirating it. To some very light degree, these online passes (game wise) is like today's version of "demos" for games that don't have a demo option (which is annoying af). I think if companies started taking away digital but we only had the option for digital games, we'd have the power in the end if everyone worked together and stopped buying digital, play older gen stuff...the studios and such would lose profits. Unless there becomes a law that they cannot remove digital games if purchased, it's the only way I'd see people (most) would feel more comfortable with buying digital. I'm happy for multiple options even if it doesn't effect me. I think there should be both physical and digital.
Ultimately in the end if we are happy with gameplay experiences being the product that we pay for and not the physical tangible thing, Then we will all be happy. What concerns me is the fact that true ownership is becoming a thing of the past. and it’s not just in the video game industry as it seems many different industries are finding ways to sell you something you don’t actually own.
As someone who values physical media, meaning media with the entire product on it, the principles of these current and future products don’t align with my own.
I am only in my mid 30s but maybe I am just an old man yelling at the clouds 😂
@@RetroRangerReviews88no it's a 100% valid what you're saying. Smart cars are next on the list unless people step up.
PC but most definitely Microsoft are the main cause regarding gaming.
Og xbox removed memory cards and normalized HDD's (no more control over your save games) and enforced paid online gaming for consoles.
Xbox one enforced ONLINE console DRM. Wich Sony does too now with the PS5 slim. And started the trent with physical media just being download keys instead of containing the full game aaaand game pass.
There are more examples but we get the picture?
Microsoft has definitely been actively destroying gaming in a very sneaky way.
@@ItstruethoughXD thanks mate! Let’s see how it pans out 🤔
I think ill just stick to the consoles i have if condoles go pure digital, becsuse quite frankly, my backlog is huge and ever growing with games!
Same here! Lol
I wanted to point out how much your channel has improved. Now there is a background drum theme (which is really nice), an outro , the video is segmented and each segment has its kind of intro thing with its title showing up (it really cool).
But I should say that your speech requires more grinding. I still don't feel the full potential of your charisma, Im sure you have it tho.
Just keep doing what you do. You'll be better at speaking in the videos with time.
Really good work honestly. Keep up!
Thanks mate. This is the first video in a while I spoke without a script, but it’ll be the last as well. It’ll also be the last video I do on the future of gaming as I will be focusing on old games and consoles from now on.
As I said in the video, deadlines kill quality and that is literally the case here.
I can, and will, do MUCH better.
There's also a precedent the digital/streaming future sets in terms of standards and quality. It happened with Netflix etc, most content there is designed to be consumed once then disposed of. They're not made to stand the test of time. Nothing that has a substance and impact that will be memoried or replicated in generations to come. I think it's already happening in gaming, with these weak modern games, gamepass, mobile gaming... but most ironically in the form of the live service concept, which on the surface suggests 'longevity' but in truth usually means the core game isn't good enough to stand on its own and is on constant life support.
The new standard becomes a 'fast food' industry, where gamers become dependent on the next 5 second fix, to try and fill the gaping hole left from a lack of true quality product. The classics never needed constant updates because they were already endless fun. Good video.
Thank you so much! You did a great breakdown here. I’m starting to feel like games and movies are shipped as beautiful looking containers with no substance. If that makes any sense!
It's pretty scary how much power the biggest companies seem to have, and of course that doesn't just apply to the gaming world. I'm personally ok with buying digitally as long as I get to actually keep the product (and the price is reasonable!), but I can't see myself signing up for something like gamepass anytime soon, it's too expensive and I want to actually keep the games I've been paying however much for each month.
Imagine if you get all your games through subscriptions, but then have to cancel due to going through a rough patch...All of a sudden you've got nothing to play! Saving up and buying outright seems way better to me
You make some awesome points here! I’m not entirely against digital games either but what really bothers me is whether we truly own those games or not. I should be able to take my console to the middle of nowhere and still play the games I’ve paid for whether I’m renting them or I’ve bought them digitally.
@@RetroRangerReviews88 Agreed, you ought to be put in full control of the game after you buy it. I imagine at least part of the limitations started from concerns about piracy, but once you start trying so hard to avoid piracy that it harms your customers, you start giving them a genuine reason to pirate the games. I don't know exactly where the middle ground is, but it shouldn't cut you off from your games just because you don't have internet
I'm fine with digital because I rather have shelf space space for my records and books.
That’s okay! It’s not necessarily a bad thing. I just like owning things I pay for 🙂
It's not concerning IMO. It failed horribly as we saw. And I hope that anything like it fails also.
We don't need bloody subscriptions to play games. We already don't own them when we buy 'em digital.
Also, Video games are soo replayable. You buy a game and keep coming back to it after years and eventually spend hundreds of hours playing it, So owning the game is way much more adequate especially for people who play high replayability games.
I also wish physical games stick around for much longer but It seems like we are in the end of their life and soon will be left with only digital options and who knows how the hell will these damn companies exploit that which scares me.
The future of gaming is dark honestly.
I agree. Looking forward brings me no joy anymore. The past is where it’s at!
i think alot ofppl forget that when netflix furst launched and for years afterwards, they also had a dvd by mail option that was far far more robust than their actual streaming service, i was subbed to netflix for years but didnt touch the streaming service as it had nothing that interested me…perhaps gamepass’s lack of an equavilant plays a role in this as well
Wow, you could be right here, mate! What do you think of other streaming services? Too many of them now?
@@RetroRangerReviews88 i’m not a big fan of streaming services personally, but they are inevitable, if gamepass doesn’t work out, it will not be becuase it was a bad idea, “the first one through the wall always gets bloody”, one of these days someone will align the jigsaw puzzles into something the masses will adopt
It's just the same as cash, everything used to be cash, but now our money is just some numbers on a screen. I also think I remember hearing something about Ubisoft taking down the first Crew game, everyone that bought it can't play it anymore despite paying for it. We're going into an age where we don't actually own our games, we just pay our $100 to have access to it for a little while.
The massive downside to “online only.” 😐
I can see why people want to buy digital products but there’s nothing like owning the physical game. Great video! ☺️
I like having 100% of what I paid for! 🥰
@@RetroRangerReviews88facts. I really like my small humble but awesome physical games collection.
I agree the future of gaming and were its quality will go is concerning. It sure is a good thing My gaming preferences revolve around 1991 to 2014 lol
An excellent gaming era! Thanks for watching!
@@RetroRangerReviews88 I listen to these as podcasts. So it's not exactly watching lol. Luckily for me the video is you have going on throughout the videos it's just background fodder.
(I just finished this video while sitting in traffic)
@@Gator159 I “listen” to CZcams videos too! Thankfully a lot of what I watch isn’t visually based 🙂
Also, pardon the typos. I speak out all of these comments via Google voice and sometimes I'm just too lazy to edit
@@Gator159 I use voice to text!
Track goes hard tho
What track?
@@RetroRangerReviews88 lol wrong comment section
I doubt they're going to pull out from the gaming industry entirely. Their gaming division is on par with Windows in terms of money coming in. And they want Game Pass to be the biggest source of recurring revenue. And the way they do that is acquire massive publishers / IP and price increase the service over time when they hit certain milestones. Like 50 million subscribers which I think they will hit once Activision's full catalogue is on Game Pass.
That makes sense, Matt. I can’t see a corporate giant like Microsoft resigning from the market that easily 🤔
For me the replacement for physical isn't whatever these corporations want me to buy into. But piracy is!
I really don't want to pirate. But they are forcing me. I even buy physical copies of PS2 games second hand despite my console not reading discs. So I have softmodded it and run the games as ISO's from a USB stick. Might as well just download the ROM's, but I don't mind paying and I like having them physical. So money or the willingness to buy is not the issue for me. The issue is the service or product being provided in its current form not being worth the asking price.
That’s why I say if you’re going to pay money for something, you should be getting the best version of it! You shouldn’t be able to get better visual Fidelity and mods for free when they are asking for money!
I've been thinking about building a pc with parts from 2007 and collecting all of those classic pc games like crysis and half life
You can build a modern pc so you can play crysis at 4K finally 😂
@@RetroRangerReviews88 that's true. But I do like the novelty of building an old PC lol
I don't believe the #s they release for digital sales. I believe they're including dlc, microtransactions, games that don't have a physical release AND they're NOT including 2cnd hand sales; specifically to make digital sales look much bigger than they are to get people to just give up & go all digital. But people are WIDELY reporting games being delisted, servers being shut down, games not available in many countries & the fact that even if you buy a game digitally you are only buying a license to play the game you don't own the game & it can be taken away from you at any time for any reason & no refund. Hopefully people are paying attention & will buy physical.
This is my fear exactly!
@@RetroRangerReviews88 Yup. They're literally trying to brainwash an entire generation of consumers to give up ownership of what they pay for. It's that simple. & subscription services are the worst of the worst.
What is the game that’s showing?
Wanted weapons of fate, call of duty modern warfare, pure, and crash day!
True sadly
Yep 😐
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I think what they're saying is just rubbish...
No way that, IMHO you're going to see them disappear without more turbulent waters
Not denying it could happen but the fact they would say that is kinda bizarre...
That being said, I think it comes from the past of Xbox like even the first console... and beyond
(for sure Microsoft had no idea how long it would take to REALLY make a profit, like MS was hoping it would...)
Yeah, things would need to become more dire for them to pull the plug!
I hope Microsoft leave gaming industry. I hope they just leave altogether. Shit company with terrible operating systems and products that never work properly! Very unstable.
I will never pay for a streaming service whether it be movies or games.
Plenty of means to obtain them 😊
Plenty of creative ways to acquire them 😂
I get the sneaking suspicion that the reason why MIcrosoft is actually closing down the XBOX 360 store, is because they want to force gamers to buy their newer consoles, which will be all digital only. That's just scrummy and not a very good buisness practice.
If you watch one of my later videos, I actually explain why I think that is going to be the future 😐
Streaming and subscriptions is inevitable. This was predicted by futurist Kevin Kelly in his book, The Inevitable, back in 2016 👀
Hid predictions are definitely coming true! 😮
Xbox has been wasting their time and money on these mediocre games for the past decade. Clearly they don’t have their hearts in it anymore. I think they should just ditch the game development altogether and just make hardware for more disabled people and open up the Xbox platform so people can do whatever they want with it. It’s like the hardware team is the only one that hasn’t been asleep for the past decade and they’re the only ones who good work consistently enough at Microsoft.
Elite controller is a good idea with the swappable buttons and the back pads, or putting little grips on the back of their controllers for series x so they don’t slip off your hands as much. If they made Xbox into more of a hardware brand then that’d be so much better than this current crappy plan, because at least they’d be doing something useful that they clearly care about and I wouldn’t have any expectations to be let down for bad or mediocre games.
I just wish we had the details of why they shut down the studios they bought. It feels like there are 3 exclusive games to Xbox and they aren’t truely exclusive anymore 🤔