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- So far Season of discovery without a shadow of a doubt has been one of the best things blizzard have done for a long time. It makes me for once very optimistic about the future of classic wow.
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So, very big reach on the link between gold farm and irl drug ring, it devalues the overall video. Trying to state that "they use it to start up selling drugs" is equivalent to "working at wendys" or "being a tutor", you can replace it with anything and it would hold true for most professions.
Said you wanted to clear some stuff up, made it seem like there was a sense of urgency to correct something, but you literally said the same thing everyone else did. So what were you correcting?
So in MMORPGs if the number of buyers goes down, demand goes down, price goes down. Even if there is 100 buyers, gold gets injected into circulation. Someone suggested personal loot for SoD, and while there is a lot of complications to get it to work, it would change gdkp, and seems interesting.
Fly hacking is something they can easily correct by adding boundary boxes, if player is in boundary for "x" seconds, flag account for review, rinse repeat until its verified to avoid false bans and effective enough to catch some bots.
Some said adding a box price would hinder botting, but it's a similar scenario with monthly, regional pricing. It raises the price of gold, but doesn't do much.
What blizzard needs to do is have repetitive path recognition, AI recognizing AI behavior, object routine that risk assess accounts, etc etc.
Risk assessing is easy, how often does account post message, is it guided, any friends, done unique content. Bots only have single focus, and adding layers to filter would murder farms that run major setups. Small time botters would be difficult to spot, but, they are not the massive threat yet.
I think I understand where you were trying to go, but the video fell short imo. Have a good one.
Very thankful I ended up on Wild-Growth EU, dosn't seem to be any bots here, I guess Americans buy far more gold. The sick thing is with the small number of servers in SOD it would only take one payed gm working 40 hours a week to remove almost all the bots from every server. Every private server can do it without any issue, just fly around and ban them. As a GM you very quickly learn where bots like to hang out, where they level up ect. Bizzard like to be able to say to investors we have x number of players, and they like the money they are getting from the bots. If Blizzard wanted to they could end botting tomorrow.
GDKP's thankfully are American only.
@@alistairbolden6340you are very wrong and very right at the same time.
Yes, they could end botting easily.
Yes, they care about the numbers/amount of players.
No, the players that bliz earns the least on are bots.
No, Wild Growth has PLENTY of bots (got 8 chars there).
No, GDKP's is not only an American issue, it's on your realm almost daily.
The thing is, due to how powerful classes are in SoD, it is easy to make gold, and yet, people still choose to buy it. I think the modern player has become incredibly lazy. You want gold? Buy it. You want gear? GDKP it. You want rep? Pre-made it. You don't enjoy questing? Zygor/RestedXP. You want to level faster? Buy a boost. Arena? Buy a carry. The modern player has purchased all the fun out of the game.
People playing games they dont even like by paying real money to speed run it is some peak idiocy
@@compulsive_curiosity If they just want to get BiS and beat the latest content then it makes perfect sense to just swipe the card. It's far more efficient.
“What do you mean, now we can play the game”
This is society in general
It would have been interesting if another change they made for SOD was to disable mods. Make those raid fights a little harder without an addon announcing the bomb or other mechanism you have to react to.
Thank you for the Journalism MetagGoblin
Also, absolutely LOVE the art style you're using in your edits!
Love this series dude. Keeps me coming back. Great job editing!
The best thing about playing on living flame - eu right now is that it's been locked for over a month so there's almost no bots as they can't create characters (this can be seen in the pricing). I made an alt on Lone wolf (not locked) and you can see the difference just by standing outside SFK and literally 50 rogues a minute are running out and back to reset and that's just on one layer...
True. If you /who rogues on all dungeons there are no bots at all. Economy is perfect, 10g split in bfd is also considered good lol. When they open the server im afraid we are fucked
You can still make characters on Living Flame. You just aren't able to do so if you didn't have one already. They are still here.
That is not the experience I'm having lol. I see bots everywhere in certain zones.
@@runemichaeljensen only see some herb bot druids at hillsbrad and thats it tbh. Any other server has hundreds of rogues in dungeons etc
where? i got 4x25 chars and play alot, and i think i have only seen 1 bot. The prices on AH are way more normal. Thunderbrow ring is like 30g, on lone wolf it's 150+ @@runemichaeljensen
Love your work man. You're the only person on the internet reporting this kind of stuff that I'm aware of. The journalistic approach to these videos is really spectacular.
Preach has done a few videos fairly recently on RMT and gold-buying. IIRC, he made a series of it where he actually interviewed a gold-seller. Bellular has also done a series on gold-selling within the last year.
I'm not replying with this to "You're wrong!" you, just letting you know there's other (large) channels out there doing deep dives into this problem as well should you wish to read/watch more about it.
There are actually thousands of videos about this, there's not really something new in this one.
Sounds good. Like I said "that I'm aware of". Will check this other stuff out homie.@@TheRealCeeJai
Also he's the only hypocrite guy who using bots and is an user in every single bot discords and use them .
This is a great video. Can really tell the time you put into creating it!
I appreciate you man. Thanks for your hard work your videos are super easy to watch
A good message, on deaf ears. 2019 classic release was a wake up for me. The players give no Flux about anyone but themselves. The normalization of gold buying, hacking, and cheating is done. The amount of cheaters FAR out numbers the legit...by a long shot, sadly. It is true in all of gaming these days.
I've ran BFD lockout probably 125+ times across 6 alts. All pugged, all random people every time.
I've ran into way more humans playing the game normally than I have botters or "cheaters."
@@MorrowProduction so none of those people have dirty gold from GDKPs or gold buying? How would you even know or why would they tell you the truth?
@@landon7974there’s far more pug groups being advertised then gdkp runs for starters. Your delusional if you think there’s more cheaters then casual players
Thank you for raising awareness towards this MetaGoblin. This is is good work
Awesome vid and awesome editing! I really hope a lot of people see this
he stopped wearing his hawaiian shirts..
went from vice city to vice
@@dflowers6771 lmao
Never did GDKP because of exactly this. Good Video, well done.
Keep up the great work man 👍 loving this series and the miami vice vibe it has. 😎
I really feel like becoming a gold seller at this point. Seems like a great side job.
I do it. Get into the GDKP communities; very low risk, same buyers
It’s a mafia. I’d be careful. They will send you viruses and ddos you.
Yeah bro, seems like “the game” is to make some cash selling gold lol
Dam my comment on gold sellers got shadow banned.
Sounds like you could outsource it. Pay a bot farm in a poor country $20/day/account to run as many accounts as your budget can afford. The broker then uses whatever means they have to drum up accounts at a cost of, say, $10/day and then you are wired the proceeds in Crypto and they pocket $10/day/account. Say an account lasts 20 days on average and you buy 10 of them. You invest $200/day and they return you $300 to $400 per day, costing you $4k after those 20 days but realizing $6k to $8k, or 2 to 4k profit in 20 days. Of course this would require immense trust in your broker, but the formula seems to be there.
great video! thanks for making this one. It truely is a huge issue.
This is your best content by far. Keep up the hard work.
This was the best video ive watched about SOD gold buying and bots period. Real journalism and hard facts. You sir are a legend! Keep up the good work!!!
The logic most golf buyers use is
1) I don’t find farming gold fun
2) I can make $100 in a day easily but could never farm 800 gold even if I play 24 hours straight.
3) I spend 1 day working extra and now I get to enjoy the game (raid & pvp) without ever having to farm.
Some extend this to „I don’t want to do the same raid 10x“ and a GDKP buyer is born
I personally never bought gold but I can follow the logic
Yeah farming gold is annoying, I have never ever bought gold, but farming it is very boring and when you play Classic wow you need sooo many consumes that at some point you have to farm gold. That is why my Best expansion is the Legion. SOD is fun at some point but if it becomes this GDKP bullsh... I will quit the game.
These styles of videos are great. 👍
of course the players are to blame, they are to blame for everything, from the fact that you require 350 gear score to even enter a level up raid to botters ruining the economy
There's an obvious way to fight it though, organize. Make guilds that do not do GDKP nor requires every consumable an WB imaginable
GDKPs not only ruin the economy
But also make insane huge gatekeeping for WoW
imagine being preraid BIS for a raid but 100% unable to join a raid becuase you dont have enough gold to put in the pot for gear and they invite someone with 10k gold but gray items over you
OR you need to be a "carry" with already near BIS raid gear
thats the longterms effect of GDKPs : 2months as a preraid ICC BIS mage looked everywhere for just 1 run but cant find one for 2months that dont require me to be already BIS gear OR having like +50k gold
and to get that gold : i cant becuase of botters / hackers
the game is legit locked if you dont buy gold with how much GDKP is the meta so everyone only do GDKP runs : why i just cant make my own since non joins that run
Also to blame for all the success with that logic
Form your own raids
Farm ur prebises and ur good to go. But i have to admit lately I have seen some bear naked green geared guys joining without even a single prebis. If you are like that ofc ppl won t take you
I occasionally buy gold in retail. As I’ve gotten older I just have way way way less time to play. I can buy 300k for like $11. Which means a couple of extra hours at work saves me hours and hours of in game gold farm time.
Great video metagoblin thank you
daamn its soo easy ? thanks for info , i had no idea how easy it is to start , thanks for ur video , i think u helped a lot of us getin started
Awesome Vid!! Incredibly work bro!
thank you!
you hit the nail on the head about the seed! too bad not many people like to admit it
Nice job on the video! Keep it up!
Another banger in wow journalism. Thank you
As much as gold farming/buying is ruining the community, it doesn't help that the other side of the coin is when people running raids ask for "LF1M DPS, must have 7/7 experience. Checking parses" so that new kid is like..."how do I get the experience if no one lets me in their raid without experience and what is a parse?"
the Drive reference for the intro, that gets my like ALONE
I don't understand that there are actually people who pays money for gold and to "manipulate the RNG" play GDKP and because they bought gold, they have an "unfair advantage"...
Don't play GDKP?
@@hiiipowerbass2337 I don't quite understand what you're asking but, no I don't play gdkp. My notion of endgame fun is not selling an hour of my time each reset for gold
'dont play gdkp' that doesnt make sense@@hiiipowerbass2337
You cant understand why people have money and buy stuff they want ? Farming 500g and compete with players and bots takes time, buying 500g takes 5 min. Buying is 100% worth your time and money
@@majkelo81 I don't understand why people take a videogame, and raiding of all things and treat it like a competition or proffesional job. It's just a game. Why throw away your money to people who obviously disregard the rules and obtain the gold illegitimately? The fact that those players exist in the mmo makes me not want to play it
I took your instructions and clipped it up and put it on my channels shorts feed linking to this video. I hope blizzard can get it under wraps.
If you are within a raid and under lockout you shouldn’t be able to trade large amounts of gold. Extend that for two hours after you leave the instance as well and bam no more gdkp raids.
they probably have to buy in advance 1 or 2 days for the specific ID and get their share back later. How about not being able to trade gold in general? Would fk up proffs like enchanting tho, maybe limit to 1g/hour
I thought about that too but I don’t think players trust each other enough to do that. Too many people would ninja the gold.
GDKPs are fine. I see them as gold making after u get BiS, of that phase. The issue is paying/charging so much for fake BiS gear lol. Idk why ppl even buy gear. Takes away so much of the fun that classic is built on.
@shiro2400 major mana pots are 45 gold on Era. The game is unplayable unless your swiping a credit card or acting as a carry for people who are swiping.
This would only harm legit people. Many gdkps just mail you the gold a day later anyway.
I'm convinced this bloke is a gold seller himself, it's all he talks about
@@koreanzombie6697 don't be cringe ya little fool
As long as people play 16h per day, i will buy gold to surpass them in level/gear progress, with pocket money from a highly successful career :) The social benefits per month for the regular neckbeard is like a one days pay for us real gamers with careers. Im glad gold sellers are there for the people who dont sit on social benefits to play a video game 16/h day
Precisely.
Kind of surprised no one has made a bot catching bot.. seems simple enough to program on the surface.
Friend complained to me today that he had to buy gold again cuz everything got so expensive 😂 they dont even realize whos the problem
When things are expensive is the best time to make gold hahaha
Report them. Cheating hurts everyone.
ohh i remember the good old days of Honorbuddy i was making 1 mechano hog every 2 days, never sold gold tho.
I don't necessarily see GDKPs as a problem but a symptom of the problem. I participate in them myself with a group that's set up specifically for them that vets players to weed out actual RMTers (although there's a lot of memes about it) and I do it for the same reason most others I've run it with do: You make money.
Look at it from the perspective of the casual gamer or the dedicated but not sweaty gamer. You spend time grinding for consumes and buffs for a raid so you do well because like it or not parses/logging are here to stay and are now a litmus for whether or not you're "good", you get into a BFD maybe it's a guild run or a pug and it's a MS>OS or some other traditional run. You spend 30-60 minutes in the raid in addition to the time you spent prepping, and you lose the rolls on gear upgrades or someone ninjas and sours the experience or the group fucks up and wipes enough times that they disband and you're stuck with a partial clear lockout. You just spent all that time for nothing. Maybe you lost your buffs and/or had to use more consumes than you should have had to (a run taking an hour to reach aku or a single death means you have to burn a 3rd 30+ silver firepower pot for example).
Conversely, a GDKP. Yeah, there's absolutely the chance that you've got a real money trader in the group if the organisers don't care or aren't paying attention. And yeah there's still the chance you don't get any upgrades or loot because you don't have enough money to outbid someone that has deeper pockets, or you're a priest or a warlock and you're bidding against a mage who Farms. But, when it's all said and done, you have three things going for GDKPs that really appeal to players: because of the nature of them, the groups running them tend to be more competent and care more so company are better and you clear faster with fewer/no deaths, ninjaing is super rare because GDKP organizers make gold doing it and ninjaing ruins their reputation, and even if you don't get gear you get a payout at the end. I would rather spend 30 minutes in BFD and walk away with 10-25g for that 30min than nothing.
I did a single GDKP run on my pala tank, got paid 50g flat at the end of the raid.
didnt need any items, but the 50g were a nice boost for me :) - but that system is not for me , glad they banned it now! even more excited for phase 2
Dude I love your channel, but I need to call out that parking job in the bmw… brah, white line was miles to the left 😂
Anytime someone advertises GDKP in trade chat I immediately block them
I cant imagine why you would byy gold... Im a fairly casual player and have made about 40g on each of my 3 max level chars just from questing, which has been more then enough to buy anything i needed. Also prices are going down and have beem for a while, at least on the consumables and quest items ive bought. Sure there are insane 15g greens on the ah, but you literally have no reason to buy it. People have like, brain worms or something making them do this weird stuff for like 1 extra stat on a ring
i buy gold so i dont have to do quests at max level or any farming for consumables to raid or enchantes, also to level my professions. if i couldnt do this, i wouldnt play the game at all. I have about 4 hours i can play a week, and im not gonna waste a second of it farming.
so you ruin the game you are trying to enjoy for 4 hours? Brother you need an intellect buff @@MrXiphix
Also there was a bot that played for me called PQR rotation bot. Player just need to move to targets. Top dps or healing meter in raids easily and in arenas to auto cc´s etc etc etc
Just throwing this out there at 12:55 - some guy is running through 1k needles with his alts on follow, tabs to one to move it to the left and start hearthing then continues to run, if you look at it it is quite obviously individual key strokes and the guy reports him for "botting"
We are seeing an incline in player stupidity and willful ignorance - that is not botting, and they likely truly think it is and will continue to do so.
Oh wow, looked closer and realized it was YOU that reported them lmfao. If you'd like me to explain how that isn't botting let me know - think its a little misinformative on your part but I really loved the rest of the video
Bots generally drive down gold costs of consumes as there too many being posted for a few people to buy and control the market. We saw this in classic wow vanilla with devilsaur on Skeram. One guild farmed it out and killed anyone who tried to kill them. They drove the price of the leather up.
Make GDLP illigal = ban all who does it
Hire a handful of GM's to look for ppl who cheat and bots = WOW SAVED.
(But i know Blizzard will not listen)
Rly good video Metagoblin, keep them coming!
incredibile, questo è un vero e proprio documentario su questi "abusi" in game, bellissimo video, veramente complimenti per tutte le descrizioi dettagliate, ma sei italiano? ciao sento sempre xD
im on Mankrik, ive been around sc. 2007. If my memory is to be believed, the prices of things on the AH are about the same as they were back then.
I'm on lone wolf and In a 10 minute span I seen at least 300 + bots run into SFK
Love the "Drive" reference
the real problem is the inflation and its a death spiral.
sooo many people buy gold and the inflation goes up because of this more people think about buying gold...
i guess it's not helping either that the player audience is generally speaking guys 30+ which would rather job an hour and spend their money buying gold instead of farming ingame hours and hours.
Start banning people buying the gold and youll solve your issue
People need to start taking accountability for the community problem of gold buying. It’s their fault not the gold sellers. Good sellers don’t exist without the market.
Baneto has made me a lot of gold, I would recommend you make your own profiles for it though.
The way to deter bots is to employ some GM's. Like the clip of Xaryu looking at the flying bots. A GM could see that and go "BAN! BAN! BAN! BAN! BAN!!!" and just like that GM's go around banning people SO easy.
Your accent had a funny consequence in your last statement since I can’t really distinguish whether you said “stop” or “start buying gold”. Lol.
Good video. I feel like gold buying is way too accepted by the general populace considering it literally ruins the longevity of the game for everyone. I know many don’t care about the games’ longevity, but if you do, don’t accept that behavior from people around you.
Great educational piece. But greed is overwhelming humanity everywhere..😢
Been saying this since Classic, but GDKP really does need to be banned. It only encourages and exacerbates the situation with people buying gold.
It seems strange that Blizzard controls the servers, the clients, has all the account information, activity logs, auction house logs, records of all player trades, in-game emails, chat logs, etc. and still allows their system to be corrupted. They know which parties are selling GDKP runs, they know which players are buying GDKP runs, they know which players have activity that doesn't match a human player and more importantly gold amounts that don't match regular activity. Even looking at in-game emails and player trades of gold amounts of say 1000 or possibly as low as 100 in a short period of time and flagging the players to look at other activities would make it pretty clear who is buying and selling gold. They aren't even trying.
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Another thing that people don’t consider is that when you are downloading these “bots” or hacks for any game in general, you are always opening yourself up to malicious actors installing malware on your machines.
I do not support booting in any means but if you unless you are spinning up VMs in the cloud, you should never download any software(booting and other game hacks included) that you don’t trust the developer of.
If the developer makes bots for gold farming, it’s only a few steps removed from adding some lines of code which can side load malware onto your computer!
I am so beyond frustrated, irritated, annoyed, and fuming mad that this is still an issue in any version of WoW. That creators and influencers and regular players have had to devote so much time to discussing this issue, complaining about it, workshopping solutions for a billion dollar company, and just wasting their time in general with this problem sickens me.
I truly believe gold-selling corrupts the game and it's world(s) more than any other dubious practice does. It has given rise to the "buy gold or kick bricks" gdkp runs: players buying power in what should be a more "pure" (for lack of a better term) version of WoW. This should be an easy problem to fix and the fact that Blizzard hasn't poured every resource at their disposal into combatting this problem and ending it once and for all is mind-boggling. That instead, on retail at least, they have given run-sellers (who are intrinsically linked with gold-sellers) their own official in-game chat channel to set up deals (that end up being RMT ones once outside of game, but I digress) is one of the worst and most depressing changes they've ever made.
It's time for Blizzard to ban selling runs again - for gold or for real money. It all leads to the same place, and there is no place for it in an MMO, like WoW, that strives for some balance.
P.S. - Yes, I think Blizz needs to nuke the token as well. I think they've seen it hasn't worked out how they thought it would, and it's just given gold-sellers and RMT merchants a different avenue to get paid. The recent "you must have bought something within X months to buy a token rule" speaks volumes to this.
Thank you for this Meta. Please, people, share this stuff.
It's so freaking lame. Gold buying sucks. Period.
Especially in SOD when items are relatively easy and not as time consuming to get -- you really don't need to arbitrarily buy gold.
I do hope Blizz invests a tiny amount in manual review. If there are choke points where farming is evident and abundant, why not place a person there every few hours that looks for evident bot behavior and does massive waves of bans?
Another method they could explore would be to track huge gold increases in accounts and investigate those and possibly reduce the gold to zero in those people's accounts.
If you buy a grey item on the neutral AH that is vendor trash for 400g maybe that should be investigated lmao. You have no benefit of giving up 400g or buying that item in the first place.
Or just track when someone's profit goes up arbitrarily.
gg metagoblin like every video, btw i actual stop all my farming profession and start doing quest at level 25, the ah price of stuff is low than the vendor of stormwind, cuz i have exalted and sergeant, is a shame :(
1. Get more talented coders for anti-cheats.
2. Implement non-kiting systems in dungeons like they did in SoM.
3. Disable trading/mailing gold for all players in a raid for as long as loot items are still tradable (and change the raid loot trade timer to real time instead of in-game time).
No
Great video !
Bots aren't just being used to farm gold, there are guilds using them to farm resources. Lets see if any of them will come clean about it.
Also a lot that's in this video was covered at Def Con over 10 years ago!
The modern gamer just wants the best of the best with no in game effort. They aren’t worried about the journey getting there. Just want the nice shiney things so they can show how good they are at the game.
I think it is the other way around. Those games are already too old and the player base is already deepened too much.
So for modern gamers who joined later or returned after a long gap, they cannot catch up those old ones anymore. And WoW always needs a raid leader to invite those newcomers as its system.
So, they have no choice but to use a shortcut method to catch up.
I think WoW should have been wiped out for WoW 2. But nope... Cashcow is so ludicrous.
Compared to newcomers, the old ones already have interstellar numeric stuff and want to keep it that way.
12:11 I sometimes I banned bot accounts manually due to player reports or for fun and found some that were running for 3-5 days straight. That 16 hour self imposed limit of botters is just to extend the life time of an account as they know that it's one metric that is looked at by Blizzard, but there still needs to be a ban wave for the metric to be looked at, which could take months in retail or Wrath. So some botters would farm 24/7 to maximize gold yield, knowing that they would get caught anyway due some other metric. Others who were more confident in staying under the radar adn thus remained under the 16h played per day. I don't know the current status, but I would assume hunting bots is not a priority currently with the Microsoft restructuring, since even before that hunting bots was just a side quest for Blizzard. I reckon with 1900 employees fired the other day, some of them were from the risk analyst team and lots of GMs that would ban bots as a fun time activity at work.
great video!
it sucks to see that the player is taking their own fun out of the game by buying gold, but I'm not surprised.
I even saw a discussion in world chat the other night, two people were arguing, and one of them said "the economy is fucked, you HAVE to buy gold" which...simply isn't true. It's very easy to get gold in SoD right now without botting for gold farming. 25s for a shadow protection pot isn't exactly expensive. However, it WILL get to a point where you have to buy gold, if everyone continues to buy gold and fuck the economy. its a self fulfilling prophecy. buying gold in the long run means that you'll probably have to buy more gold in order to sustain everything, as the economy will only get worse.
It's frustrating. It really feels like the people who are too lazy to work for the gear, (and it really doesn't require much work in SoD) has fucked the game for the rest of the player base who don't want to or can't play several hours a day.
Liked and shared, because thanks to publicity Blizz acttualy started to do something!
Only way you will be able to stop gdkps is personal loot with no trade ability with random players ie a full guild run can allow trading of loot even then that can become a gdkp.
As much as I pray SoD will be different, I see it being the exact same XD
I've always thought GDKPs were lame af haha, even when I played a lot more than I do now....I never understood paying gold for gear I just earned a chance at by killing the boss lol.
The bidding is fun. I do a lot of GDKP's and don't buy gold. I usually alternate between getting paid one run and then using that gold for gear the next.
@@orion6742 you accept gold bought from a gold buyer you are part of the problem. No matter how often you say I don't buy gold.
doesnt matter, gdkp is not the problem
the problem is RMT sites and the company's inability to go after them
@@biyao9465 cool story, kiddo.
@@biyao9465 lol cry more
Thanks for the guide mate, why shouldnt i do bots? i just did it now.
At 5:01 and 8:54 in your video, you use video clip from the streamer "moorevariety" did you ask to use it or do you credit him in end credits txt later?
No but does it matter Karen?
I remember friends using bots on private servers and fly hack was working there and then around Pandaria times fly hack was detecable right away on retail offico servers and straight banned other bots was working fine for them (fishing,lvling,dungeons leveling,profession etc) but now in SOD times fly hacks work again?!
2:15 Nice Park job LOL
Haha that hogward express made me laugh😂
Glad you called out GDKPs as well. That's definitely a big part of the reason there even is a market.
Big fact it's a circle.
I think instead of banning them they should randomly flag a bunch and turn off their ability to loot to their bags so that way they run the bots for hours and then realize their bags are just bricked or they can no longer trade or mail but wont be banned immediately. Mages bots could still work but once flagged turn off looting and exp for anyone in their group instance. I think instances should need a human passcode to reset things like this could deter and make it way more annoying. They could also limit actions of brand new accounts for 2 weeks. It would suck for brand new players but it would make botters wait longer before new accounts can be used and disrupt the flow of income. It would also become harder to manage the accounts because once they are flagged they can still log in and run the bot but cant get any items being banned is too predictable and like you say they just buy it at lowest available cost worldwide
Blizzard still gains the sub fee - even if it was stolen by the botter.... still Blizzard makes money
It's not just the botting accounts that Blizzard wants. It's the 2 or 3 players who would quit the game otherwise.
@@SirKanti1 there is no straight correlation, especially when there exist players that buy gold and still play wow..
If you want to stop bots, gold sellers, GDKP and anything else that becomes purchacable in game then you need to take drastic measures. Players will have to sacrifice part of their freedom. This means locking trade, the AH and mailbox down. No more trading. AH prices are set by blizzard and can not be altered. No more sending money and items through the mail to other players. (can still send it between your characters on your account). The only tradeable (direct player to player trades) stuff would be class produced items like healthstones or mage water.
You want to stop the gold farming/selling then you need to prevent them from even being able to trade gold or laundry it through the AH. If you can't trade gold then players can't buy it from the farmers. Meaning bot gold farming is pointless. Make everyone self sufficent and gold sellers won't be able to function.
Blizzard is actively fighting against this. Players who buy gold are being banned, and or having their gold and items they bought with the gold removed from their accounts. Which might be better at stopping the bots since the coders always evolve. If they severely punish every single player who buys the gold it may be a good enough to deter others, which would then hopefully kill the market for gold and drive the bots out of the game. Hopium!
No theyre not. Theyre not punishing anyone. Bots are literally running rampant!
@@MikeyPaper yes they are. Just had one of the guys in my guild get banned for 2 weeks and had all his gold and items stripped because the dude bought gold. He was on our raid roster now he's fucked.
@@Complication84 I really doubt this. If he did get banned, I'm going to guess there's more to the story. Blizzard has been extremely lenient toward gold buyers historically. If someone gets banned and gets their stuff taken, they're very likely to end their sub. Blizzard doesn't like losing money. SoD may be different, but I really doubt they're going to choose right now to take a hard stance when they're in the position they've been moving towards for years.
@@Numl0k Doubt all you want. He posted the screenshot of the email they sent him in discord when we asked him if he was lying, and or got caught using a hack or something. It directly stats in the email he was in trouble for BUYING GOLD, and stated his gold and items bought with it were removed from his account. If he returns after it ends we will have to see how severely it set him back. He may not come back though lol.
He is lying, they don't ban gold buyers unless the buyer is dumb and only getting gold and not an item to come along with it. You buy gold and never get it from a person directly, gold comes by mail and never take only gold from mail unless it comes with an item. No ban since 2003.
Bro the intro video is killing me lmaooo
Watching before the Asmon reaction video.
Great video!
holup ave u not hit the "do not recommend this channel" button when his videos pop in the feed?
What’s funny to me is saying that buying gold makes the game worse for casual players. Yet most of the people I know that buy gold (if not all) are casual gamers. And they always say the same thing. “Well I want to play endgame I just don’t have the time to farm”. And to be fair.. it’s true. If I spend most of the day in working and I only have a few hours to play I wouldn’t want to spend that precious time farming gold. I will agree that blizzard should take a hard stance on gdkps though.
The absolute crap of a playerbase who buys gold, boosts and carries with a game company that does absolutely nothing to stop these activities deserve each other.
Incredible video and research man, I appreciate you putting this all together.
I haven’t had this much fun playing WoW since 2019 re-release and I really do not want SoD to suffer anymore from the disease that is botting, gold buying and GDKPs.
Your journalism like this is a huge help to combating the problem, so thank you brother !
Finally, actual investigative journalism
I fucking despise GDKP but its grown so much now seems impossible to get rid off. I hope Blizzard banning gdkp in SoD is a success so they may look to implement it into Cata classic I PRAY!
I’m in this video at 12:00 but
1.) I don’t sell gold I just make content ❤️
2.) I can only play about 6-8 hours a day cause I get GF Aggro 😂 but thanks for using my clip!
you mean u run a bot application to make content? Secondly u play 8hrs a day and u have a GF? you are one of a kind sir...
@@diogenesalbuquerque7366I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not
@@diogenesalbuquerque7366 Ive raided with him and live watched him 1 pull RFC
Unless Blizzard does something about GDKPs soon, SoD will be ruined before level 60
It won't be ruined lol it's so easy to make a normal raid
it's not really that prevailant though, and tbh i just ignore those and play with my own guild
@@tyhyhh It is for now. Its a snowball effect. Look at classic era. Elixirs going for hundreds of gold. Your raid pots will cost 1000g/week unless you make an alchemist. Then you can't afford sappers, etc.
@@Mattykek what are you even on about? It is so easy to make gold in SoD. The GDKPs are totally within ToS and are not the problem. Keep crying, peasant.
@@Mattykek Buying consumables and getting 300 buffs for baby content is the real joke. I don't feel bad for the people who buy all these sweaty unnecessary things to beat a raid toddlers could do.
Blizzard has made it crystal clear that they care very little about the economy of the game.
I hate GDKP, my guild knows it, everyone I talk to knows it. You know why I still host 1-2 GDKP’s a week? Because the game is so damn expensive to play. I have to pay to play, so I can play to pay for consumes. If there was alternate means of making decent gold, I would. Nothing beats the gold-per-hour of GDKP’s.
12:45 That's called prisoners dilemma. Shifting blame to players is not gonna change a thing
When I see people wearing a super expensive pre raid bis item I laugh
It's a litmus test for who you should invite to your raid/guild.
If some dumb fuck is willing to spend 60-80g on Humberts Helm they have willingly marked themsleves as lazy idiots.
(gotten leather set hood on 4/4 of my leather wearing alts)
a game design tip I've heard before is to not go against human nature
where is the sub only video with the description?
I never bought gold until the WoW Token got added. Then I said fuck it, if Blizzard doesn't care about the integrity of their game then why should I.
Once again, as usual, the player base are to blame for ruining the game.
thats not fair thats like saying spciety is ruined because of people
@@dflowers6771 that's exactly how that works lol
@@dflowers6771 I can't tell if you're joking or just that precious of a child.
@@dflowers6771 In this case it's literally the players. If people didn't buy gold and do other dumb shit like GDKP, which is OBVIOUSLY facilitated but buying gold, this wouldn't be an issue.