The DARK Truth Why Star Trek Discovery is ENDING After Season 5
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- Uncover the shocking truth behind the end of "Star Trek: Discovery" after Season 5! Join us as we delve into the dark reasons behind this unexpected decision, exploring the financial challenges facing streaming services and the impact on the Star Trek universe. Executive producers and cast members share their heartfelt reactions, shedding light on the bittersweet conclusion to this groundbreaking series.
From the show's groundbreaking diversity and representation to the legacy it leaves behind, this video explores the highs and lows of Discovery's journey. Plus, get an exclusive sneak peek at what's to come in the final season, including Captain Burnham's epic quest for an ancient power.
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Oh, please. Really, ST:Discovery was just plain bad, filled with self-absorbed characters who were more worried about their "feelings" than about the job that needed to be done.
Like the writers.
I seriously can't articulate my feelings, but brother dam str8. Virtue signaling chick fest of fifis and bs. I'm honestly surprised they didn't bring up roe v wade in this Sh💩!t. 😂
@@PleaseE777vidmax The Roe v Wade reference was planned for season six.
Excellent point
@@CODY-- Like thats relevant in 2075 or whatever.
‘Dark truth?’ Click bait!
Burnham was the dark truth.
Star Trek Discovery got infected with the message(lgbtq) & blackns .too much of anything is not good
ST-D is what happens when you replace good writing, good storytelling and good acting with a focus on THE MESSAGE. The Original Series very often presented controversial stories, but they always provided 2 sides, and ultimately let the *viewer* decide. ST-D grabs you by the throat, forces their ideology down your neck, and TELLS you HOW to think. Entertainment has been hijacked by Activism.
No it hasn’t. Besides maybe people who liked the show liked it because they were sick and tired of seeing the same old, same old, spouting the same old ideals and opinions that have been around for centuries. After all, the show was set in the 23rd snd 32nd centuries. You believe people would have brought all the current prejudices, biases, discriminations and bigotry that far into the future? And yet claim they want to explore new worlds and meet new species. It would be a huge contradiction.
@@Oxygen257Yes, it has.
Star trek has ALWAYS had THE MESSAGE from the very beginning in the 1960s.
Litterally no old star trek spouted ideals stupid. "OH A LORCA! It's sentient"
Oh a gorn kirk make a gun!"
"We're fighting Mark Leonard who is also Spock's dad"
Discovery "Message. Message. Message.
(10 mins later)-
Message" if you enjoy getting preached at then by all means. 😅
@@shadowone01x99The Clint Howard episode, yeah the message was to out smart your enemy. By bluffing them out. Not what pronouns he used.
As a big Star Trek fan, I've forced myself to watch Discovery as the storylines for each season has been the worst in Star Trek history! This season has the chance to add some sorely needed storytelling to Discovery! But I find myself watching interpersonal relationship storylines that take up 80% of the episodes with 10% for a big chase or fight scenes, leaving only 10% for storytelling. They have turned it into a Soap Opera set in space.
I stopped watching STD at Season 2, that "Red Queen" thing at the end was laughable.
Totally agree! I keep wanting to like it but it’s just so bad. They spend too much time and money on big action scenes and forget Trek is really about the exploration of the human condition. First the crew was at each other’s throats and now they are saccharine sweet They can’t get the tone right. Every shot is overly dramatic, and hardly any episode explores deep subjects like every Trek series that came before and what makes the franchise great. Glad to see this show wrapping up.
Well stated. The interpersonal relationship .. often whispering, weeping .. got old. Critical Drinker was right: storytelling in so many t.v. shows and movies ... has been drastically lacking. I come back to the 'formula': KISS (At least Strange New Worlds is coming back. Like it better.)
Same here, I am a big Trekkie but each season of Discovery is awful. Even the physics on the scenes frustrate me, and with each season the bigger the risk and bigger the enemy ships become
Love the way she arrived from the past
And tells people (mostly men) they need to change because times are different now?? wtf
Radical leftist WOKE nonsense included!
Wait…. Kate Mcgrew I think had the first groundbreaking female lead role in Star Trek. Am I mistaken?
Mulgrew. Yes. But they said first black female lead.
@@gaileverett didn’t Nichelle Nichols have the first black female lead in TOS?
@@iathax1338she wasn’t a lead. Kate Mulgrew is the first female lead. Race dont matter. What’s next, “first amputee lead”, first lead actor with a finger missing”, “first lead actor who doesn’t like spaghettis”. It’s all crap from Racist America once again who has to segregate everything by race.
Nobody challenge that you, Kate Mulgrew/Janeway, has been one of the best rolls in Star Trek sagas.
That stated, the point from my side, is that in Discovery the forced many situations which, in my case that grew up with James T. Kirk (I'm 66 yo), I´d not interest at all.
TV 's Enterprise Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer. Movies 6 Kirk, 4 Picard and 3 New Kirk (Great roll of Chis
Pine, top brass selection). Stream Discovery Lorca/Pike/Saru/Burnham (never seen so many in same ship), ST Picard, New Words/Short Treks Pike. I saw them all several times and realize that in almost all of them the premise was (around), give or take, 50% Adventure/Action/Specs-Effects, 20% Fun, 30% Drama/Personal issues. Besides, I know for sure, that some episodes have/must be included, and that they do not do the essence of all series and are soft/irrelevant/light-hearted. And I understand that must be like this.
What I do not understand is why Discovery has been 35% Action/Specs-Effects, 5% Fun and 60% (Sixty percent!) Dramas/Philosophical Dramas/Interracial Dramas/Non-Binary Dramas. In fact, almost All episodes of Discovery are Half Soap Operas, with endlessly crying dialogues and that’s not the spirt of STAR TREK.
Last, but not least, is the fact of Leadership and Team. Even each Captain is THE principal roll, in almost all episodes of different Star Trek they move as a solid group. In case of Discovery I’ve noticed that all is around Burnham and perhaps she’s the same character of “Sasha” in The Walking Dead, which Burnham called (Quote) “A team player on the Outside, but a loner on the Inside” (Unquote). And before some clueless delusional treated me as a phobic of some kind, I’m born in Argentina and raised by my Immigrant Grandparents and Parents with great open minds. For me is the same White/Black/Yellow/Pink/Green or whatever colour/race see or interact with.
Now I’ll purchase "The animates series", "Lower Decks" and "Prodigy" for my grandsons. Need them to start thinking a little more than our local schools use to teach.
@@iathax1338 I wish she had been incorporated as part of 'lead'.
“Boldly go where no they\them has gone before.”
🤣🤣🤣
Love the captain, hate how bad the writing has gotten. The burn caused by tantrum boy?! 😢 So dumb. Season 5 is painful to watch. The chase is boring and they plucked the villain lady Mal out of Farscape. The characters are hyper one dimensional. For example, I would have loved to have seen good storylines with characters that just happened to be trans, but they're too busy with bashing me with being trans that it's painful to watch. The writing is just awful and not entertaining.
The burn caused by tantrum boy?! YES! The new writers think we're stupid childs... or THEY are poor stupids, without talent at all.
Yes tantrum boy killed millions but got a cuddle instead of being locked up and he’s like 100+ years old now! He should be behind a force field and put on trial but nope, it was feelings so it’s okay, I wonder how the millions of family members that lost people because of his feelings feel about him?
This was the worst Syfy show I ever seen. This was not Star Trek at all. I am surprised that they are even releasing season 5. STD needs to be done and forgotten. Nobody wanted a 5th season
It has some bad and just okay seasons. I have seen FAAAAR WORSE scifi. For example Beacon 23.😂😂
@@shadowone01x99 Star Trek used to be the standard from intelligence the provoking writing with believable science. Now it's just a cheesey soup opera. Teachers professors students and principals used episodes to teach you all sorts of things. Do you think they are use nu Trek for anything like that. You don't have to answer that question ❓
@@cliffordterrell5524 Indeed and i agree.
Startrek has never had any problem being DEI or woke. It was everything u said which made it brilliant including its DEI/ wokeness.
This Nu-Trek is even LESS woke than the brilliant classics but has much MUCH WORSE WRITING, TERRIBLE IMPLEMENTATION and mostly lacklustre plots.
@@cliffordterrell5524Yes they are. CRT and other woke 🐝S
@@shadowone01x99 Beacon 23 didn't require a GENDER to define it or Preference in mating, Touched by an Uncle The purple Generation is what STD should've been called.
STD arguably managed to check off a large bucket list of "groundbreaking DEI" achievements while wrapped in the candy-coated veneer of a beloved classic TV show. Too bad it forgot to prioritize being a sci-fi series actually worth watching at the same time. I feel sorry for the next show Kurtzman's going to hijack in order to continue delivering "The Message" as opposed to entertaining its audience with relevant storytelling.
3:20 Sisko IS the First black captain in a leading roll.
I believe he said female captain.
You need to listen fully my friend 👍
Cisco was a commander not a captian
@@jerrysebastien1974 He became a captain on Season 3, Episode 26, "The Adversary"
Yes, he is. And he's a far better leader than this toxic clown. And Janeway was the first female captain in a series lead. There was a black female captain and admiral in ST:TNG.
The "dark truth" is that it's a terrible show.
I think it’s great! Some people do like it
Your opinion is acceptable but however it is incompatible with accepted reality.
That show should never had gone 5 seasons in the first place! It is NOT real Trek, it is NOT canon. The show is absolute SH*T
It actually is canon
@@Maddenpro-1981 nope
It's a romance show. Completely off star trek style.
Star trek is a great sci-fi show NOT romance and especially not a constant LGBT show, I really don't care who does who but I like star trek for the ships the science the ideals of what humanity could achieve and do.
The quality was wasted also on the idea that these ships can travel between planets but catch fire and sparks whenever anything happens constantly even on the bridge of all places.
Don't mince words, Bones. Tell me what you really think...lol...
I AGREE WITH YOU!
@@Maddenpro-1981 no it actually isn't....
"DISCOVER" started off really bad and got worse! Never felt like REAL Star Trek
Brief redeeming moment with Captain Pike in Season 2
@@Bran_Redmaw Agreed. Take the money from Discovery and make more Strange New Worlds episodes
Yep. Ditched Netflix and, soon, Prime. Give me reruns ofTOS-Enterprise (and perhaps some of STW characters).
Star Trek is the only reason I have a paramount+ subscription.
🤣🤣👍👍 Yup 100% Me Too !!!
I read this exact comment on another channel. To be honest I feel the same way.
And me!!!!
Then you shouldn't have a paramount+ subscription.
@@Christobanistan 🤣🤣🤡🤡
It should have been cancelled 5 seasons earlier. Star Trek has always been about finding solutions that are not war - Discovery gives us a horrible racist main character who starts a war because "It's the only language Klingons understand" and goes unpunished and gets universally praised. I can't believe this is so rarely called out. A present day equivalent would be a rogue military person dropping a nuke on an African country because "It's the only language the n*****s understand". This is just not acceptable.
Star Trek has always been somewhat believable - but Discovery gives us the magic mushrooms that instantly transport from any point to any other point (and yet we're supposed to believe the Federation was destroyed because all Dilithium crystals exploded - so why not just use the magic mushrooms instead? Or duplicate Romulan warp technology which for sure would have been known?)
Discovery, like the horrible reboot movies, lives on special effects only (and I admit they're well done). But its writing is horrible. I watch a show fornthe writing.
Agreed in all terms!
Perhaps they think we´re all OLD mindless trekies and they´re trying to mold millenials minds like F...k...g DISNEY.
As a veteran, "mutiny" is a really ugly word. Junior ranks are expected to show initiative, but they also have to be proven right if they buck command. Mutineer Mikey Spock started a whole fucking war "just because" she had feelings, her thesis of "the only way" was never adequately shown, never mind proven. She should have been drummed out of the fleet, but of course her Mary Sue familial connections are invoked (hey, how about _"nepotism is bad"_ for a message to promote?!) to not only keep her in, but land her the Captain's Chair?
More click bait from this guy. Twice now I've been fooled into watching, but literally zero substance today's videos and no new information. Best thing to do I think is block him so I don't get caught out again
Next time I get his video in the feed it'll be, "Do not recommend videos from this channel"
Thats a great idea.
Exactly the main point!
Everything that you site as a virtue of this show is exactly what made it so damned awful and hard to watch. Previous shows had diverse crews and Captains but didn’t make it the cornerstone of each and every show like this one did. The sooner they pull the plug on this abomination the sooner it will rightly be forgotten.
@ROB M . AMEN BROTHER,
I could not have said it better myself!!!. 🖖
Thanks for the shit eating InCel perspective! Now crawl back into your grandmother's basement.
It is a WOKE conduit.
Paramount cannot support too many shows. Strange New Worlds is getting very high reviews and Discovery has very low critical reviews on Rotten Tomatoes with audience reviews very low on average, while critic reviews are higher. Season 5 of Discovery going episodic stories like SNW is likely to be better than the overly long full season story arches that drag on a lot. Possibly Discovery has just run its course to mixed reviews while SNW has solid reviews.
Do you know who is in charge of SNW. Alex Kurtzman who is the franchise killer. Each season of SNW is getting worse. Nobody is bothering to talk about it but nobody cares about the Alex Kurtzman version of Star Trek.
Even SNW is total garbage. They literally gave us one pretty good first episode, then switched back to STD style crap since then.
@@Christobanistan cry more or grow up. SNW is one of the best shows out there.
@@koynov333 Says no one.
Better show by far
The fact that Star Trek Discovery has to market itself with identity politics, instead of story or character is why its finally ended. Star Trek has been garbage since its post JJ Abrams revival.
None of these shows can match TNG or original.
Agreed on the JJ Abrams part. They tried hard to give this show the same visual aesthetic, but shouldn’t have. Abrams was not a Trekkie and ruined it. Why copy him? That’s why The Orville is more true to Trek than Discovery. The writing is FAR superior!
What's TNG
The only ground this show, "broke", was ensuring straight white males could only play the villains. Pike and Spock were the exceptions that proved the rule, but weren't in it for long anyway. Name one straight white male on the Discovery crew, who has been in it since the first episode. You can't.
In the original TOS pilot, Captain Pike commented on not being used to having women on the bridge. Strange New Worlds overcompensated by making the Enterprise a primarily female crew. I still enjoy these shows, but let's not pretend they're not feminist and LGBTQIA+ non-canon fan fiction, which are less inclusive than the previous Trek shows, all of which DID break social ground. Whether it's the first interracial kiss on TV, men wearing dresses as uniforms or having a more diverse group of captains than any other show, ever made.
I'm all for more inclusive shows, but this was hardly that.
This was propaganda pure and simple.
I don't watch Fox or CNN either.
STD is expensive trash. If it had not be named Star Trek it would not have lasted one season.
I agree with you if it wasn't named Star Trek it probably wouldn't have lost but, if it had no connections to Star Trek at all no connections to Starfleet or Star Trek in any way if it was its own entity it wouldn't be that bad of a show. But as a Star Trek show it sucks.
@@dannyhughes9299 Nah, the storytelling is bad --- with the Star Trek name or not.
Yes it made history but not in the way they're saying. It was a badly written show that pretty much crapped on 5o years of television history and Canon. It was a stain on a legendary. series. Filled with unlikable characters. Alex Kurtzman has been failing upward for years. Every thing he touches dies.
.."groundbreaking" "historical"? I think I've tried to watch your notube posts before and again a misleading title, waste of time and you sound like you work for kurtzman himself. More like hysterical for noscovery was NOT true Gene Roddenberry Trek. Ok, here we go again..cbs decided it wanted to get into the streaming business so it thought, let's take a piece of it's new studio it bought which was called star trek that will have millions and millions of an already built in fan base that no matter if it's trek they will subscribe instantly, no questions asked. But their mistake to go totally opposite of GR, give it to a guy who wrote bad scifi, threw in words like federation and warp drive, slapped the name trek on it yet used it to spew his progressive liberal socialist "woke" propaganda in the face of those fans who were not as stupid as he thought for they respected how Roddenberry presented real trek with ideas and let his audience decide on their own, not push it down their throats. Cost is the reason? Yep, because it will probably take the 5 seasons just to maybe break even. At least Lower Decks and a couple or strange old worlds is worth a try, but let's not mention the failure that was picacard and the last minute cheap marketing ploy that was the 3rd season to bring back the once great next gen cast with a story that could've been told in a two hour movie..bless there hearts, they looked bored. One day hopefully we will get real star trek back on tv but not as long as it's "kurtzman's trek"! Heck, we'll take Berman at this point
End of season 2 together with season 3 is one of the craziest things I saw on TV, in a good way
anytime a corporations wants to start layoffs,
they always start with people color & a certain age bracket.
the dark truth is, the show is trying to be Buffy more than Star Trek. It also didnt help that it seems every season the show is backpaddling and desperately trying to appeal to different people. it doesnt really have a vision. And most of the characters are simply not interesting or likable (for lack of meaningful things to do). I m sure the writers have their strengths, but they simply can t write good Star Trek. Where is the allegorical storytelling, the philosophical depth, the emcoumter with the strange and alien? Star Trek wasnt doing that in every episode and also not always well, but it was doing it most of the time and they were trying to do it well. Discovery doesnt know what it wants to do or be and was always bumbling around and sadly never really found its voice - in my opinion.
last but not least, anyone who does like the show and to whom this show means something isnt wrong and I like that you get something out of it, but I just dont t see it…
They are desperate to pretend they are more successful than Enterprise because they have an extra season. Yet enterprise has more episodes. Not sure how the total minutes on each add up.
The executive producers look exactly how I envisioned them.
After 4 seasons I have not had the desire to rewatch any of it. Completely contrary to how I feel about TNG -- which still holds its own over 30 years later. This is how I can tell that Star Trek Disco is complete garbage.
What's TNG
Love Star Trek. Never watched Discovery but once, and that was enough.
Watch it again... I was like WTF also... but now it's just EPIC !!!
@@justachipn3039epic shit
After the unholy mess that was the pilot episodes, I suffered the show for the rest of the first season. I couldn't take anymore after that. Then I found about the remaining seasons, and I'm so glad I quit when I did. It only got worse.
@@Hylanvahr 🤣🤣
Ha ha ha ha ha! Discovery isn't for everyone. It's definitely not for pussy douches.
Kate Mulgrew/Janeway, has been one of the best rolls in Star Trek sagas.
That stated, the point from my side, is that in Discovery they forced many situations which, in my case that grew up with James T. Kirk (I'm 66 yo), I´d not interest at all.
TV 's Enterprise Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer. Movies 6 Kirk, 4 Picard and 3 New Kirk (Great roll of Chis Pine, top brass selection). Stream Discovery Lorca/Pike/Saru/Burnham (never seen so many in same ship), ST Picard, New Words/Short Treks Pike. I saw them all several times and realize that in almost all of them the premise was (around), give or take, 50% Adventure/Action/Specs-Effects, 20% Fun, 30% Drama/Personal issues. Besides, I know for sure, that some episodes have/must be included, and that they do not do the essence of all series and are soft/irrelevant/light-hearted. And I understand that must be like this.
What I do not understand is why Discovery has been 35% Action/Specs-Effects, 5% Fun and 60% (Sixty percent!) Dramas/Philosophical Dramas/Interracial Dramas/Non-Binary Dramas. In fact, almost All episodes of Discovery are Half Soap Operas, with endlessly crying dialogues and that’s not the spirt of STAR TREK.
Last, but not least, is the fact of Leadership and Team. Even each Captain is THE principal roll, in almost all episodes of different Star Trek they move as a solid group. In case of Discovery I’ve noticed that all is around Burnham and perhaps she’s the same character of “Sasha” in The Walking Dead, which Burnham called (Quote) “A team player on the Outside, but a loner on the Inside” (Unquote). And before some clueless delusional treated me as a phobic of some kind, I’m born in Argentina and raised by my Immigrant Grandparents and Parents with great open minds. For me is the same White/Black/Yellow/Pink/Green or whatever colour/race see or interact with.
Now I’ll purchase "The animates series", "Lower Decks" and "Prodigy" for my grandsons. Need them to start thinking a little more than the Argentine schools use to teach.
DEI has turned this series to crap. Season was particularly tedious. Glad its coming to an end.
Startrek series had DEI right from the first Startrek TOS series in the 1960s. 😂
Strange that a ST fan isn't aware that DEI is the cornerstone of TOS. It is central to the purpose of the original series. HOW did you miss it. Also it wouldn't be relevant if ot ignored todays awakenings. It HAS to expand because a federation that will have so many species from all over the universe would HAVE to forever be reshaping itself to accomodate newness.
HOW and WHY are you even a fan?????
I'm watching this series because I am an actual fan. I watched TOS when it first hit television. Diversity of characters was a given part of the series. It was never THE FOCUS. It was just there as part of the reality. There was no story in seasons 3 and 4 just a race to see how many tropes from the left could be crammed into 40 minutes. The series was good (not great) for season 1 and 2. Seasons 3 and 4 were absolute garbage, They focused on being gay and of course transgenderism not on adventure or even good story lines. Season 5 has now begun, watching episodes 1 and 2 gave me hope that the final season would be good. Hopes were dashed by episode 3 were the focus was back to the season 4 focus. Take a look at some of the critiques here. No one is saying it was the focus on DEI that made this series terrible but you can read between the lines. They are saying the series is bad, and it is. An example of much better is Strange New Worlds. Let me say one more thing that I am sure will trigger you too. SOME of the cast will continue to have long, decent or even stellar acting careers. Yeoh, Green, Jones, Fehr and Cruz will obviously be in demand for a long time. Other characters who are the focus of this series will never work consistently in larger productions again. They are one dimensional actors whose only function was to check off a box on the series writer's left wing bonifides score card.
Good ol Rick Dees and telling us what's happening with Discovery
Ironically enough, it was “Star Trek Transformers” or “Star Wars Trek” (the style of discovery’s storytelling which is visceral, overly loud and under-cerebral) that ensure I will never rewatch this anomalous blip in the storytelling style of Star Trek.
It often feels like Kurtzman et al tried to turn the JJ Abram’s-verse into the “Marvel cinematic universe, Star Trek edition”
Huge turn off for people who want to hear about the scientific aspects of Star Trek, who love the thought provoking stories that challenge your conceptions of normality and reality.
This discovery experiment was essentially the marvel cinematic universe hydraulically pressed ontop of the Star trek brand.
It’s almost sad that the ambitious leaps in representation were grafted onto such a “meathead cinematic universe” type of series. It cheapens the real representational victories.
Star Trek Legacy should be re-named and unroll the lore of the 25th to 26th century Milky Way, it should show the evolution of war to transwarp and slipstream travel, the dynamics of the newly peaceful founder’s empire in the gamma quadrant with explorations of the higher evolved species and travel to other galaxies with careful scientifically advised storylines about the likely physical phenomena expected of such travels.
We should learn about giant and hypergiant stars, the black hole in the middle of our Milky Way and the intensely hot and hostile environment of the galactic core.
These and many more lines of narrative treasure await a renaissance-evolution of the berman-era Star Trek realities.
Leave transformers, the marvel comics and iron man style fantasy to those franchises to cater to visceral meat head audiences.
You can still have representation of minorities in the golden age storytelling style of Star Trek.
Apparently, you have never watched TOS !!. There has allways been diversity and representation in STAR TREK
the only thing is THEY NEVER FORCED IT DOWN OUR THROATS !!!!!. OH! ,we were told that STD was a prequel ?.
The only problem is , was , the ships and technology that they had was more advanced than the TNG .......Basically STD was , is a crappie sci-fi tv show with the name STAR TREK slapped onto it !!!!
🖖
Lol..
Old school Startrek series literally had MANY HARDCORE wokeness plots in several episodes. The woke-meter plot-wise in ST-D is LOW Compared to earlier star treks.
it's a matter of focus. In TOS there were morality tales, but they were never 'extreme left' garbage and a total absorption in THE MESSAGE, everyone's neurosis, and political correctness just gone ridiculous. All these things in Kurtzman Trek are to the total exclusion of the STORY.
The writers are clearly entirely concerned with modern day hyperpolitical messaging than decent writing.
So much bait.
The answers are obvious because there is not just one as there are multiple reasons.
Show cost. Keeping doug Jones alone has to be a hefty sum because of his name recognition. The cast also kept growing and STD was the show with the most effects, live and computer generated as well as the most prosthetics. Thats a LOT of expenses.
However thats not the ONLY aspect of cost. You have to understand that Paramount is in a tough financial spot right now. They are shedding less profitable shows weighed against their production cost vs total views. Ultimately this puts trek at high cost lower ROI when compared to other LA productions like Yellowstone and 10k spinoffs. Cause horses and open air sets on location are comparatively cheap to CGI, sets and pyro.
All of this because Paramount is not making its ends meet. Theyve been eyeing merger/acquisition/partnership with groups like Warnerbros amazon and netflix. THis is a common measure seen before these types of agreements.
Ultimately the truth is that out of all this gen of trek shows, STD was the worst received. That is not the same as like/dislike. From the word Go STD has generated no end of disdain because of some illogical reasons (its to dark, its not real trek) to genuine and legitimate complaints (like its seasonal "course corrections", to its very subversively hateful agenda and damage being done to establish canon). STD has by far the most baggage of any of this gen of trek. It has the lowest engagement levels from legacy trek fans. While it did bring in some new fans, (predominantly LGBT) it also ran off far more original and TNG era fans. While not really making a dent in the core demo they were seeking which is youth age demographics because to kids , YA, trek seems antiquated and the weight of 900 hours plus 13 films worth of homework just to get fuly up to speed is a huge investment young audiences are not likely to invest into.
Add to this the number of products they produced to sell but because of piss poor marketing of them, few people were buying them resulting in bleeding money from nerd cultures biggest cash cow
So when you have a show not living up to expectations, Has some of the highest costs of any of this gen of trek, Not showing a clear cut fanbase supporting it, A lack of word of mouth through things like meme creation It was definitely time to bring out the axe and effectively reboot the STD team toward the Academy project which will take much of the STD visual aesthetics, scale down the cast for young up and comers in the business, massively scaling back the LGBT pandering cause they look at Academy as a vehicle to hopefully lean on that YA demographic through CW style sex in casting and similar to SNW more episodic nature allows viewers to more readily drop in/drop out which will alos allow them to effectively accomplish much of what fans want for a Legacy show, only it will be from the angle of teaching the history of this new massive lost era.
Now, that said, this is also helping to bring this "phase" of nu trek to a close with the absolutely premature cancellation of beloved Lower Decks, and offloading of the final season of Prodigy to netflix (cause the likelihood of paramount allowing another company lease out canon rights is incredibly slim)
So there are a LOT of variables in this equation but it is very clear that they are either looking to get out of trek and shelf it for another generation (cause this gen is already up to 7 years and 250+ episodes compared to the TNG legacy era of 25 seasons across 18 years and almost 250 episodes. We did not realize but we are in a golden age of trek and it is beginning to at the very least slow down to a more realistic level which will make it easier to shop for networks due to less baggage and trek is a trunk full of baggage to say the least.
Discovery pushed the boundaries in literally every sense. If it made you feel uncomfortable then you need to prepare yourself for the future.
I also struggle to get into this show. Too much angst and contemplation, speaking in hushed tones, a ship full of damaged people trying to cope with their place in humanity. Its just so suffocating.
The gay couple and non-binary and trans characters, drove people away, then they got rid of them and showed less of gay couples relationships clips, many came back. They should not have brought in those characters at all. It had *NOTHING* to do with Star Trek or it's various missions. I like Stemits and Culber as who they were, I didn't like their being gay. Both actors are great! I especially LOVED Tig's character Jett Reno! Her banter with everyone was *HILARIOUS!!!* Notice, her character was gay, but there was no new relationship or clips of a new relationship.
That wasn't what did it for me. It was the "make it at least 25% different" mandate (something to do with CBS copyrights vs Paramount copyrights i think). This didn't fit between ENT and TOS in any way. The Klingons were a travesty! There was no reason to make Burnham Spock's sister other than to try to boost her popularity with generations-long fans who saw nothing familiar in this series. Add to that the pay-wall of having to subscribe to their channel for that one series alone (averaging only 13 episodes per year). But the straw that broke the sehlat's back for me - their utterly slanderous re-interpretation of Tellarites!
Agreed. Doesn't make the spirit of Star Trek. No problem w/ gays, non-binary, etc., because theyé part of humaniti.
My problem were the long-lasting crying dramas btwn them an others.
I´m Trekie fron first J.T.Kirk and know thar sad dramas dialogs were present in low persent, but in ST Disco, ALL EPISODES are 50% somthing and 50% Soup Opera.
OMG !! You're telling me they got to season 5? I gave up half way through season 2.
the starting scene of season 5 is cringy af with M. Burnham cowboying on top of starship is totally annoying. I'm really starting to hate Black actors now, their acting is just pure annoying these days
First 2 seasons were awesome after they jumped to the future it got bad
BS on all of this, First Black lead character on Star trek was Cisco from DS9, first black Captain, Sisco's love interest Gates, DS9. That said, Star Trek Discovery was just a rip off, of a great many others literary and artistic works.
I didn't even bother to watch season 4, in fact, I clung to Discovery for WAY too long.
We're in a fierce battle, infiltrating a breen giant deathship! Let's talk about our feelings.
I just cancelled Paramount streaming since Star Trek Discovery finale and show cancellation. It's not the best Star Trek but still a Star Trek show and was getting better
I may be out of the loop but I've just realised how appropriate the acronym is. I mean STD!!??! Really. I guess because it's painful and hard to get rid of. A monstrosity that tarnishes the franchise
stop calling this crap star trek
It absolutely IS trek. Its got some problems but its trek down to its DNA. But they are working to fix those problems in earnest
I believe the real reason is because of Captain Burnham is why it's being canceled look at some of the comments in here self-absorb these are fictional people that follow a storyline and they act like these people making up their lines as they go That's just absolutely insane in itself
I have been a (Gay) die hard trekkie since the early eighties. I have found all the spin offs of the original series had some issues but they all kept me enthusiastic and wanting more. How Discovery made it to season five is beyond me. I stopped watching after season three holding out hope it would drastically change. Sadly Discovery will go down in history as the series that killed Star Trek! I loved Picard and bought all three seasons!
I'm not the only one who is going to be happy to see STD gone. I'm not the only one who well say that Star Trek is going to be better after Discovery ends.
Wow! Was this a paid ad for Disco? Fluffy positive promotion of a show that has 21% Audience approval on Rotten Tomato's for S5! The reason is BAD RATINGS! S5E6 "R2D2 Speak" I think they should have gotten Stacey Abrams again as "President of United Earth" and had her and Tilly run that race. Would have been more realistic. What? 🤔🤔🤷🏻♂🤷🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂😂😂
First Star trek I actually dont want to continue watching.
No way as good as star trek the next gen in stories
Disco is an inversion of the original Star Trek. Considering the times we live in why am I not surprised.
Star Trek Discovery was nice in the first season, after that become OMEGA drama, which the point of Star Trek get lost. It become a successs of pain to watch.
It's a romance show. Completely off star trek style.
Star trek is a great sci-fi show NOT romance and especially not a constant LGBT show, I really don't care who does who but I like star trek for the ships the science the ideals of what humanity could achieve and do.
The quality was wasted also on the idea that these ships can travel between planets but catch fire and sparks whenever anything happens constantly even on the bridge of all places.
Discovery has elements of star trek. However its attempt to rebrand for "modern audiences" has only shown us, that CBS is unable to manage this IP.
It would be better to sell it, before the franchise dies. CBS is doing what Disney has done to star wars. Amazon to lord of the Rings, netflix to the Witcher et al.
Thankyou Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street. Your forceful push of DEI on the studios - has effectively neutered them.
The only thing "groudbreaking" about this show was how much it sucked. But, I have a feeling that the writing could get even worse with the other shows under Kurtzman's guidance.
Voyager was worse. Much. Much. Worse. I say that as a person who HATES Discovery. It hurts as a Black woman to see Burnham be both so stupid that she became dangerous.
@@Oonagh72 Voyager, was great, not as good as TNG but compared to discovery who isnt even star trek or even a good show it is a masterpiece.
I disagree I love all the live-action shows, all have their ups and downs but I hate the fact that they get cancelled often before they reach their full potential -like enterprise. They all should get 7 seasons like the TNG ear shows. SNW is currently the best out at the moment and I hope it gets the seasons it deserves - in fact, if it goes for more than 4 seasons it may just become my new favourite. I started with TOS as a child but I don't rate it anymore as it looks too dated and it's very cheesy. I know that may get men hate but I don't care. TV is entirely subjective and each to their own. It's fun to discuss our subjective views though. Peace and long life!
@@DaveTheProducer1978 i never liked or watched tos. TNG, Voyager and Enterprise were great. DS9 had some good moments. The current shows aren't even star trek lmao
@@Wedontknoweachotherr TOS was great when that was all there was, but it's not very watchable now, but yeah like I said I like the new shows but each to their own
How is this crew still alive? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This show should have been called Star Trek WTF? 😃 👍
The real surprise is that the show lasted for 5 seasons, despite being bad bad bad.
DEI Politics has kept it around.
I can tell you why in six words. 'Star Trek Discovery Sucks Donkey Balls'.
Star Trek discovery is a wasted opportunity and a lot of wasted money. I have tried to find something to like about Discovery I like the show production values and the design of the ships even the look of the show is intriguing. My biggest issue is that the writing is so abysmal unfortunately and it just takes me right out of the story.
Damn shame. The star trek series.
I recall when we here in Australia had to wait until after screening on BBC , that would 've been around 4:20am on the ABC iView. So now even those in Britain having to stay up 'till midnight despite it being a BBC program . We've all be sold out to Disney. Since even the dvd's aren't available to be purchased anywhere except from Britain whilst Disney owns streaming rights.
Star Trek, even the god awful STD and all of New Trek, is American. CBS to be specific. Not BBC.
No dark secret here. The sci-fi fans watch what they want to watch. Apparently a minority of people wanted to see what that show was offering.
What exactly?
Exactly
I thought ST-D was the best yet. That anyone finds it hard to "suspend belief" watching science fiction is not just Duh ironic, but laughable. The multi seasonal singular plotline worked (and that's all it had to do was "work") and takes better than average writing than just "Oh, we're going somewhere else this episode" That you are distracted Michael Burnham is a Black woman, ST's first Black female lead and Starfleet captain - That's a you problem. Sonequa Martin-Green ROCKED IT! Arguably the best lead & Captain ever. You're cheating yourself missing her portrayal
Michelle Yeoh's Georgiou damn near stole the whole series. Tilly, ROCKED IT! Tig Notaro stole every scene she in even if she only had one line. Special Effects- Best yet. Best advances, best fights, best ships, best flying Off the chain. And the LGBTQ stuff can be distracting, but as a hetero male Star Trek fan, I can't think of one time when it took away from plot or action. Adira's entire sxuality arc is in one line "Call me they" That's it. There's not a single story line about anyone being gay, Black, Green, Vulcan, lactose intolerant or otherwise. The diverse inclusion is obvious, and if that bothered you - what Star Treks have you been watching? The only storyline about what anyone "is" is Saru and the Kelpians. Other than that, everyone else just "was" what they are. And considering Startrek has played around with non normative/non binary sxualities before, it simply being in Discovery must have struck a personal prejudice. I wonder if some felt the females were too prominent, but Lt Stamets, Saru, space cowboy Captain "Big Pimpin" Pike, and Book are some of the coolest astronauts in the game. I still say best Trek thus far If you're a phobe, don't watch it
Well said.
😮 i don't understand why people like star trek discovery 😒
These are people who never watched any of the new generation Star Trek and have no clue what it was about and how you write good stories. Most of them are brainwashed millennials who don't grew up in an era of out of control political correctness.
They didn't. Viewership numbers were extremely low.
oh My, let me guess. Terrible season 4, too may woke actors, way too much crying, Bad story lines, Inconsistent details, WAY too many female ...hmmm Hero's, are they really hero's??? Advertisers seeing that based on TOS this show's only connection, is the title. I am seeing hundreds of thousands of young girls rushing back to the original Barbie so they can get a real job where no matter how many promotions you get you don't have to cry, complain, connive or back stab every other person in your realm to get the job done. Despite the film already used, shot and in the books? maybe just cancelling it before it airs would be the best thing to happen to Star Trek the Franchise. This comes from a 60 year veteran of Star Trek , who's one and only letter to Hollywood was to not cancel the original series. Long live "good STAR TREK" not this mmm crap.
I decide for myself whether something is wasting my time, I don't need a CZcams video blog for that. No matter what the reviews say here, I'm totally excited about the new Star Trek Discovery season and I feel the same way about the new season of Strange new Worlds. In other words, I don't give a damn fuck about Star Trek reviews. People listen far too much to bullshit reviews instead of making up their own minds.
Exactly. I agree
Then you have no taste.
Curious. Why did you post your opinion? If you think people should avoid reviews and make up their own mind...
@@thunderwalker5827 I have not seen the review, but only read the comments.
So strange the world is coming up on his foot 34th season so in the fifth season it should be getting canceled too because its unsustainable
Let's just see how that works out right
Season 4 got extremely bad with shoving the woke down our throats. Star Trek has always pushed the discussion about social issues and that was a good thing. At the same time, they allowed the audience to form their own thoughts on what was discussed. Star Trek Discovery shoves it down your throat and gives the unspoken directive that you must comply.
I stopped watching in season 4 when the ship computer started having feelings and they had to talk it into doing its job because it was afraid during a life and death situation. WTH?
I wanted to love it, but eventually fast forwarded through half the show due to over emotional scenes and wokeness.
Why does Discovery keep presenting references to past Star Trek series? It's almost as if the series can't stand on its own and has to refer to something bigger and better. It can't compete with those other shows. I know other Star Trek series has referenced others but nowhere near as much as Discovery. Star Trek Discovery is a mere shadow of every other series. I gave it a chance but it failed miserably.
It is lucky to even have been on TV ... It is SO awesome to see it leave!
The comment section makes me feel there is hope for humanity.
Are there no positive comments or did you simply not include them? I loved this show, and if they had a 6th season, my family and I would be watching it. I came to the show late. Found it by accident. Was it perfect, no, but remember that the original Star Trek did not last long. Just as Star Trek tried to show that there are ways to get along on the ship and in the world, Star Trek Discovery did the same. There seem to be a bunch of haters out there.
Season 1/2 were great, last 3 have been terrible, but I still watched, and I knew he was gonna be daniels!
Season 1 and a little of 2
I saw the first episode of season 5, and is as bad as the other seasons!! Mr.Roddenberry please forgive them for not knowing what they are doing!
I didn't hate it. It wasn't as good as TNG but it was better than Voyager. The effects and 4K were nice even if the storytelling was a bit weak at times. Yes the wokeness was uncomfortable, but for me it's because it didn't flow and felt forced (I think some of the loudest in the comments are fighting demons). Yes I resumed watching it because I ran out of other good shows, but it is a good show. Would have enjoyed a season 6 and 7. I think more people would watch if they just leased it to Netflix or Hulu instead of trying to make Paramount+ a thing. Maybe they should ask pirate hosts for the actual numbers.
Not sure if it's dark or not -- but this show is terrible. Embarrassingly bad for the franchise on so many fronts.
The only surprise is how this steaming pile didn’t get canned after just 1season let alone 5. Good riddance to objectively bad trash
STD has a young-adult, unprofessional, too-woke, emotionally immature, annoyingly toddler-based set of characters. In each and every episode they constantly start to jabber on the semi-wise choices we all must make to become the Huey, Dewey, and Louie they all want to be. Even in extreme time-critical situations, they start to tell eachother how much they appreciate their friendship. It's more than unbelievable; it's unconvincing how a crew can function when every moment they start to sob and exchange pubescent wisdom. The word disappointing doesn't cover it - it's an affront to each and every serious sci-fi series ever made. The eye-candy is nice, but the characters, conversations, decisions, plots & plot twists, and relationships are shameful to any self-respecting writer in this genre.
So, the "DARK Truth" Why Star Trek Discovery is ENDING After Season 5 IS... it costs too much?!?
"Great" writing as usual.
Barely got through the first season and never watched anything after that. I just couldn’t get past the abomination of what they did to the Klingons 😂 and all the ridiculous liberties they took with continuity. I’m VERY glad I missed out on all the woke DEI crap and message and diversity that no one in their right mind gives a single shit about.
Put Terry in charge and give us legacy
apparently already denied, they are likely going with Tilly and the space hogwarts STar trek academy. On the plus side as Paramount+ implodes Kurtzmann trek is likely done and gone for good
That be good if it does none of it worth watching except Picard season 3. Maybe lower decks.
I also love how this "woke" captain seems to know everything while these "unwoke" men in the future know nothing I'm so happy it's over
Disco should had been cancelled after season 1! It's problem is and always has been is that it's too gay. Over-representation of that does not represent what we are today. Plus they make up the story to fit the agenda. Spock has a sister? And she's black? Where in Star Trek has that ever been true. It's totally stupid! And to keep pounding their message speaks of an agenda. So please don't tell me how great it is when there's true Trek fans that think it's nothing but agenda fillled garbage!
Michael Burnham was adopted by Spock’s parents, Sarek & Amanda, when her parents were (seemingly) murdered by the Klingons.
Her and Spock were never presented as being biologically related.
😂😂 adoption. I used the fast forward button for the rainbow people. It was too much.
Never had the chance to watch it
This video is almost as bad as Star Trek Discovery.
Star Trek discoveries biggest flaw. You have a too emotional Captain I mean when you think about itI mean The captain's too busy crying about her boyfriend, instead of worrying about the whole crew.
That should NEVER have been a role that was played in any Star Trek franchise That's the TV show's biggest flaw. They tried catering to a bunch of people that weren't even gender aware of themself. So of course the show got lost real quick.
she's not the first black female captain actually
I really liked her as Captain =/ we're so bad for you
Not ground breaking 😊
Look, I also hated the first seasons as mush as the next Trekkie. STD started loud, cynical, despicable and disrespectful towards everything Star Trek stoods for - a feat even JJ Abrahams didn't allow himself doing with the reboot movies. I am not even gonna mention the corporate mandated obvious woke activism inserted in it. However I have to admit they tried to course correct at some point in Season 4 and 5. Yeah, it looks and feels clumsy, pathetic and obviously not very adored by the activist showrunners, but there was an attempt and I gotta respect that. Not that it made the show really good and worthy of the Star Trek name, not at all, but at least it stopped pisseing me off everytime looking at each new episode and made me actually care a bit about the characters and the future of The Federation. I just started Season 5 out of pure curiosity and so far it looks watchable, albeit obviously nostalgia baiting and recycling ideas from far superior TNG episodes. If the showrunners resist their inherent urge to disrespect Picard yet again and actually use his legacy for something useful as an overall plot device to wrap the whole season my time might not be wasted after all.
I got 20 minutes into Ep 1 Season 1. That was all it took. Same, apparently for my friend Richard Arnold (Gene Roddenberry's archivist & consultant on TNG). He sat down to watch STD with his legal pad (as he did with all new Trek), and after 20 minutes he had 4 pages of notes, then gave up.
If you don't like something don't watch it....SIMPLE NO!!! There's obviously a fan base so if you turn it over who cares who else is watching it?
A bunch of children in military uniforms having emotional crises that determine the fate of the universe. That's the premise of this awful show. It's gross.
It’s No Secret Why…It’s because Star Trek Discovery has always blew MAJOR CHUNKS 🤮 It’s a miracle it lasted this long…talk about a waste of resources 💸
Discovery gave us all kinds of things we never wanted, just like an STD.
What's STD
@@user-hk5ie3lw3j sexually transmitted disease
Star Trek Diversity - The Captain Burnham Show
Could it be… Kurtzman?
Star trek discovery is possibly the worst. It had everything needed to be successful but we were served a plate of melodramatic spaghetti’Os instead with lots of crying, feelings and emotions. I watched it by skipping a lot just to know the story since it’s canon. Glad it’s over.