John Wayne Couldn't Stand These 5 People
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- If you ever walked in on a movie that your grandparents were watching, chances are John Wayne would be in it. Wayne was so famous for his portrayals as a cowboy that he basically became a piece of Americana himself! But while The Duke may have been one of the most beloved actors, he himself was not opposed to petty spats, rivalries and outright hatred for those around him. In fact he even had pretty public beef with actors who are still working today!
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My best friend's sister had cancer in her leg, losing her lower limb. She said Wayne was at the cancer treatment center in Boston, in the late seventies, himself being diagnosed with lung cancer. She said he was such a nice guy, traveling from bed to bed, checking in on everyone personally as part of his daily routine there, such a sweet, caring gentleman!
One of my best friends sister was a nun at that hospital at the time and spent a lot of time with the Duke. They had hours long conversations about death and dying and God.
Great story thanks for sharing.A HERO of the silver screen who how i always imagined him to be off screen ,NO ego and making time for his public .
Wayne was the first big star to come with the fact he had cancer and it was that coined the phrase the Big C. And he took ownership of his own part in contracting it. When somone tried to blame it on his role in Rhe Conqueror, Wayne responded "I smoked 3 packs a day for 50 years. that probably did more damage than 60 days in a desert"
DUKE R.I.P ❤❤❤😊
Did he check on black people? What about gay people?
How in the eff could you forget the number one person Wayne hated Jane Fonda
Bcz anyone with ANY character most hates Jane Fonda for her TREASON and Crass conduct. Evil Witch. Go read "The Spike" - Arnaud de Borchgrave and Robert Moss. Remember her first husband, Tom Hayden also when you read "The Spike". No serious disguise of the 2 of them.
What about her dope smoking, motorcycle riding, freelove and probably draft dodging brother?
Not Fonda Jane.
Alot of people didn't like Jane. She was an embarrassment to her own father.
Considering her moral character, that was hardly a surprise.
I was in Sturbridge Massachusetts once in the 70's and saw John Wayne walking down the street. He was there in connection with having his portrait painted by Norman Rockwell. I was in high school at the time. You would never realize how large John Wayne was physically unless you saw him in person, not just tall, which he was, but just large, broad I guess you'd say. He was also very friendly and accommodating when we approached him. I was six feet tall by then and he towered over me, when we shook hands his hand just swallowed mine. He really was a big guy.
Stockbridge. Sturbridge is in central Mass. Norman Rockwell lived in Stockbridge across the street from the Red Lion Inn. Most of Rockwell's clients stayed at the inn. Stockbridge is in the Berkshires.
@@dlewis9760 You're absolutely right, I mean Stockbridge. The only time I've ever been to Sturbridge was on a school fieldtrip to Sturbridge Village!
WOW..that must've been something! I actually saw John Lennon, his son Julian and his other son, Sean walk 3 feet past my pushing a three person bike on Palm Beach in February, 1980. He was talking to both of them as he past me and kinda nodded. I was sitting on a sea wall off of the road. I went down there to stay with a friend for a month and I went on the Island to help him paint a house. We were sitting there eating lunch and I said to him "wasn't that John Lennon"? we both laughed. It was him!
I think you mean Stockbridge, Mass.
John Wayne was 6'4".
I told my Grandma that John Wayne was bald and wore a hair piece she yelled at me and called me a liar, when I found a photo if him without it she refused to look at it. 😂
Grandma is loyal! LOL
Photo shopped
Back in the fall of '73, there's eight college guys playing in a chamber music group for the opening of an art museum back east. As we finish a piece, I sense a presence come up behind us and say, "You boys really add to the ambience of this event". I turned around, looked up, and there was John Wayne.
This struck me for two reasons -- first, John was gracious enough to come over and compliment us; and second, he used the word 'ambience' correctly in a sentence. Totally a class guy!
John Wayne knew about Mafia infiltration in entertainment industry. He tolerated serial rapist molester of underaged girls while the men were abroad defending Democracy during WW2 Francis SINatra's criminal past because Sinatra lied about the Mafia connections. Wayne was a Reagan gullible and Reagan was working on John Wayne to forgive scumbag Mafia fruit boy Sinatra. It's always been amazing anyone thinks Sinatra's suicidal sounds of drunk guy crying in the shower somehow is 'great music!' Thank God my ears always worked better than that!
Your story just shows what an elitist you were when young.
Oh, I thought you were going to mention a WW2 war hero.
He was an intelligent man, no need for your surprise.
@@deliawright8626 Back in '73 there were no live agencies of social media -- no Internet, no Google, only fan mags (which I didn't read). So knowing something about individuals was far more difficult than today. All we had were the images cultivated on screen, and of the many Westerns and War movies I'd seen Wayne in there was no way to anticipate a quiet-spoken, erudite man from those images.
Love BOTH John Wayne + Clint Eastwood.
Different vibes but complimentary !
The closest I came to John Wayne was the 1973 Rose Parade. He was the Grand Marshall. My family attended and we were up in the stands. As he passed, my oldest sister yelled 'John!' and he looked up our way. Yep, that's it.
Glad you didn't use his real name _ I believe it was Marion Morrison!
@@bucksboy20 And the surnames of the Three Stooges were "Horowitz". And Rock Hudson was originally named Roy Fitzgerald. And Marilyn Monroe was originally Jean Harlow. And Fred Astaire's name was "Austerlitz". In the old days, many performers ended up changing their names.
The racist bastard!
@@bucksboy20wimpy wimpy wimpy.
@@Alan-71351 No, Wimpy was a character in Popeye, or a burger bar, You choose,
No one can outshine Clint but John Wayne. Clint is multitalented and genius level as a director but there is only one "Duke".
John Wayne always played John Wayne regardless of what movie he was in.
He knew how to retain his brand. Lesson for AB InBev.
Yes in a way he did in many movies. However try comparing his performances in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Searchers, and The Shootist. Very different characters and very different performances in each of those films. Almost hard to believe they are the same person, other than Wayne's iconic voice.
Loved John Wayne and still love Eastwood! 2 different actors and 2 completely different styles. I can’t even imagine anyone else playing Dirty Harry than Clint and all the classic westerns and WWII movies than Wayne!
I notice when you get to dislikin someone, they ain't around for long, either.
I could not pick between the two. They both have an important place in cinema history and for their generations. One thing to consider is the tremendous contribution that Eastwood has made to cinema as a director.
I consider the contribution that John Wayne made cancer research more tremendous,
Certainly for society.@@rio-wi1el
Eastwood over time has had a broader range of characters he inhabited vs John 'Cowboy' Wayne not counting the wide range of films he directed.
My Grampa use to say “ Nothing better than a cold Coke, bowl of popcorn and a John Wayne movie!”
Always been a fan of John Wayne, love his movies… I don’t care about any petty stuff concerning John Wayne, I know several people who knew John Wayne personally he was a nice person by all accounts
So,... Wayne believed in heroism, patriotism, loyalty, wasn't pretentious and wasn't intimidated by gangsters. Sounds reasonable to me....
I heard he was totally professional as an actor. Prompt and hard working.
John Wayne was a nazi.
I worked on a movie with Clint Eastwood. I thought he was one of the best directors I had ever worked with. I go to all his movies that either acted, directed or produced. He also was a great guy. I also enjoyed John Wayne movies! I wish I had a chance to work with him. I loved his Westerns and his world war two movies. They both did some outstanding movies.
Fairly consistent Men.
Loved them both! Both excellent actors and I feel fortunate to be raised watching both
It is also important to note that John Wayne was schooled partially by none
Other than the one and only Wyatt Earp who showed Wayne how to walk, talk and act like a law man in the west which I believe is why he was so protective of the western genre
Years ago, I saw an interview in which Harry Carey Jr. said that Paull Fix, who was his father-in-law, had advised John Wayne on developing his distinctive walking style in order to make himself more noticeable. He said that the trick was to aim the toes in rather a straight line,
No way to choose between Wayne and Eastwood. They had totally different styles of movies and storylines. They're both great performers in their own Right.😊
I totally agree with you they were both great, but it's okay to say which is your favorite. It doesn't matter who you choose there is mo wrong answer, it's an opinion. Me, I love them both, but hands down my favorite is THE DUKE!
@@thewolfmann9492 When it comes to traditional westerns, I agree. But when it comes to the grittier side of the western saga, Clint wins out. They both made westerners, but two different western genres. They're like comparing an apple to an orange, with acting styles and roles. Since I have always loved both styles, I see them as equal in their roles.
Amen
I agree. I love both actors but every actor has their technique.
I will take Eastwood every time. Wayne was a lie from start to finish and still is, even his name is fake!
Met John wayne in 73. He came by my Uncles to ask if he was up to go get Lemon Meringue pie. His favorite pie just happened to be made at a Mom and Pop cafe near Yuma Arizona, my uncle lived in Canoga Park, California.
One of the best stories about John Wayne was when Mel Brooks gave him the script to Blazing saddles and asked him to play the part of the Waco kid.
John Wayne took the script home and read it and said he couldn't stop laughing out loud. There's no way he could be in such a movie nobody would ever take him seriously again.
But if Mel Brooks actually made the movie he would be one of the first people in line to watch It.
I saw it back in the day, and it WAS hilarious for it's time and subject matter.
John partied just as hard as Frank. But I'm guessing John may have been a day drinker. And Frank was a night owl.
Most People in Australia and Europe Couldn't Even Stand John Wayne. Every one Cheered for the Indians in cowboy and Indian movies with John Wayne.👌
Funny you mention that because I liked to watch him onscreen but I still cheered for the "bad" guys.
There were no Indians in the Quiet Man - I did spot a few local cowboys, though…
@@davekeating. Did you know that the character portrayed by John Wayne in the American movie Green Beret was inspired by a real-life Nazi Lauri Torni. Later adopted the name Larry Thorne and he was a Waffen-SS captain during WW2 and served the Eastern Front under the alias Larry Lane. In the late 1940s immigrated with many other Nazis to the U.S. and joined the U.S. Army in 1954 in 1963 he was a member of the Special Forces A-734 and fought in Vietnam, he went missing during a mission in 1965 and was declared MIA After searching he remains were discovered in 1999 and officially identified in 2003 he is buried in Arlington Nation Cemetery.
So, yeah: Waffen -SS members buried in Arlington Nation Cemetery next to American soldiers.
@@thespartan8476 Many years ago I read a photo journal type book about WWII post D-Day. A German born US Army Officer enters a particular house in a village in Germany. He comes out with one or two men in US uniforms. It was his parents house. He had swapped the German uniforms of his teenage brother(s) for American ones, and they continued their march on Berlin.
John Wayne my daughter was born on the day that He passed away. Always John Wayne
I like westerns I grew up on them. To me John Wayne was one of the best. He was a true cowboy. He didn't have to show all that violence, just the right amount of what was needed. It seems like the more the violence and sometimes unnessessary violence has become popular over the years. John Wayne will always be my number one favorite cowboys.
Yep, he would hit a person if it was needed. czcams.com/video/o3343LUHNb4/video.html
John Wayne's characters never had to resort to graphic violence to get his point across. A great scene from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence was the diner scene where Lee Marvin (Valence) was humiliating Jimmy Stewart's (Ransom Stoddard) by making Stoddard drop a plate with a steak on it. When it fell to the dirty floor, Tom Doniphon (Wayne) intervened telling Valence that was his (Doniphon's) steak and that Valence HAD to pick it up himself. It was one of the most intense scenes in the movie. Valence, who with his two henchmen, terrified everyone in the town but, would not dare to pick a fight with Doniphon and there was a crucial stand off between the two. Finally Stoddard, angry with the whole situation picked the steak off the floor in an attempt to quell the standoff which would have had deadly consequences. For me, that's all it took to cement The Duke's reputation as the man that would NEVER back down. No matter how ruthless and threatening the antagonist appeared.
Randolph Scott.
@@garc0113.....Since Blazing Saddles I have that visual of the townfolks reaction to the name Randolph Scott.
@@timford3599.......LOL at JW shooting and/or fighting isn't 'graphic violence'??? Remember, in his earlier movies they couldn't even show blood because it was deemed by the censors to be 'too graphic' for moviegoers. So was showing a married couple sleeping in the same bed, but I digress. Standards change, I reckon.
I would wear that as a badge of honor...Wayne was such a patriot that he never fought for his country yet felt qualified to lecture others on patriotism
I saw on an "old West" channel a video claiming that a young John Wayne became friends with an old Wyatt Earp, who was a consultant on Western movies in Hollywood. Supposedly, Wayne was impressed by Earp and based his movie cowboy persona on Wyatt Earp. I tried to find audio or video of Wyatt Earp speaking on the internet to compare to Wayne, but I could not find any.
I wish we were still the good guys beating the bad guys.
We never were.
@@gunman11only if you believe what your communist teachers taught you.
the so called good guys have become the bad guys.....
We never were. California state paid $100 for every Indian scalp brought in by savage white settlers. And the South depended on Slave labor. Not to mention the fact that the US Cavalry carried out genocide campaign against Native Americans. Read “Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee” by Chief Joseph, I cried my eyes out when I read that book.
@@gunman11I feel that the US has lost its aspirations to being great. That is a shame because while there is a lot of bad history: there is also a lot of greatness there. The US is made up of such a diverse group of cultures, has led the way with big projects and big ideas. So when we look at you from the outside its sad that you seem to be imploding. I regret that, its something I wish would reverse and see the US achieve unity and focus. Right now big companies, a few overly rich parasitic persons and bad tribal politics are robbing the ordinary US people of their country and their birthright. This is my view - but I do not think its unique.
My dad met John Wayne through a mutual friend in Mexico many years ago. Dad, being totally starstruck, called him Mr. Wayne. JW smiled at him and said, "Call me Duke." WOW!
Wow only his friends called him Duke !
I would call him a coward/draft dodger. Ford knew it, and said so.
@@TheDesertwalker Source?
Gable lot better actor then the Duke ever.. was
@@TheDesertwalker Wayne was too old to serve in the military. Sorry Charlie.
Lol, it's funny hearing the narrator call John Wayne, "John." He went by the Duke.
Worked with a guy in the 80's who had a friend once who was an Driver in the Army at a base on the west coast where the Duke was. He got to be the Duke's driver that day, and said that at one of the stops on base, Duke left him with the Jeep and left his jacket or coat behind with him. He couldn't resist trying it on, and while he was fairly good sized himself, the jacket fit him like a Tent!
One of my favorite things about Wayne is he absolutely hated communism. So do I!
That makes at least 3 of US.
We’re up to 4 of us.
@@johnlovett651 LOL, You just made my week,
IF I had not gotten Set up by a Weapons Store owner. I would have added you and the other 2 to my missing Arsenal.
Have to keep NY safe, Marxist pussies are every where, or so I found out after the fact.
You stay safe and when the ball drops look for the Nut in a Hospitaller Shirt.
Democrats could be offended? 😂
I am one more communist hater. Add socialism on there too.
John Wayne is my favorite actor in westerns.
I understand, but, I'm really impressed by the actors in Tombstone. All of them.
Definitely John Wayne's fan. Liked him as an actor and share his beliefs. He was no nonsense. May he rest in peace.🙏🏻
And what beliefs are those? The ones that had made him sit out WW2 while other actors like Lee Marvin, Mel Brooks, Charles Bronson, Jimmy Stewart and so many others served while he made "Singing Sandy" movies?
@@danpaesano2429 Marion Wayne was not a nice person.
@@danpaesano2429 He was old and considered unfit for military service. Sorry Charlie.
@@kiwihib Rather contradicts a lot of testimony I hear from posters here.
@@bigverybadtom Plenty of world war 2 soldiers were older. Jimmy Stewart was 33 and served from 1941-01947. John Wayne could have joined too. Sorry Charlie
I been big John Wayne since little boy grew up watching movies all . The sad when John Wayne died on my birthday my mom told me my hero pass way 😢. I was sad little boy. I have most movies on dvd. But I won't forget my hero John Wayne still watch movies until today. From Green Beret, Stagecoach, Donovan Reef and McClintock was funny movie.
Definitely a Clint Eastwood fan but I loved John Wayne also
I agree
A lot of people couldn't stand him, either....
Not everybody loves Abraham Lincoln either.
@@bigverybadtomwhat about Andrew Johnson? Everybody love him? No? Groucho Marx? Anthony Zerbe? Kim Kardashian? There's gotta be SOMEBODY?!🤣
So what?
John Wayne is and will always be the greatest of them all. God bless him for all the joy he gave us.
John Wayne has been gone a number of years, allow him to rest in Peace.
Hatred is forever for many in todays politics and we know who they are
As for your question, I'm totally a John Wayne fan. Met him in 1977, when I was 6 years old. WONDERFUL fellow!!
Wwyne was a coward refusing to serve his country! Read my comments!
@@guycastonguay9633 So you feel the same way about Cassius Clay, er, Mohammad Ali?
@@StevieRayLou Apples and oranges!
@@guycastonguay9633 Don't you mean Whites and Blacks?
The John Wayne school of acting : Walk slow, talk slow , and don't say too dam much .
Worked Everytime! Smart man!
" and never wear suede shoes ".
Like the wise old owl. He knew a lot but keaped he mouth closed.
@@michaelpower4372 ... kept* (!) his* (!) mouth closed ...
Something special about John Wayne and I love his strength of character. ❤
"Strength of character"? Like finessing the draft board at the outset of WW2 while every other good man was volunteering for service? Then calling Vietnam War draft resisters "communists" for doing the same damn thing he did?
@gigimitchell6987 Strength of character you say? Wayne was a coward, refusing to serve his country giving a lame excuses about his having a wife and four kids to support! He was filthy rich and they would have been just fine! He actually said that serving his country would interfere with his career! He was a racist, hating Indians saying they were selfish because they did not want to share their land with the whites! The whites stole the land from the Indians! Andrew Jackson when president had a bill passed ' the Indian removal act where in some 60 thousand Indians were forced at gun point from their lands to walk over a thousand miles to Oklahoma where the land was poor for growing crops, Along the way 16 thousand Indians died! Go o line and see TRAIL OF TEARS for details !Shame on Wayne and Jackson!
Yes even the name John Wayne gives you goosebumps. Not Clint Eastwood's name
@@michaelpower4372 Do all poseurs give you "goosebumps"? BTW. It was a made-up name.
@@MrShobarNo your's doesn't. 😊 any more questions you want to ask?. John Wayne in Eldorado.
I lived with my Dad's Parents for a few years and my Granddad introduced me to John Wayne and the one I remember was me and him going to see The Alamo back then. And when it came out we also went and saw The War Wagon with Kirk Douglas as Lomax.
I am equally a Clint and Wayne fan. Can't have enough of their movies
Sterling Hayden was a better bad ass than both of them.
Clint is somewhat of a 'mixed bag' imo. Wayne's criticism of how Clint transformed Westerns is a legitimate black mark on Clint's resume, but I do respect Clint in a lot ways. His treatment of Sondra Locke is disgraceful (from what seems to be public knowledge, I could be wrong) so, I will never equate Clint & Wayne on equal terms. Everyone is flawed but Sondra's mistreatment by Clint seems to be disgraceful for any Western man to ever do. A lot of stuff that Sondra alleged only God will know but there seems to quite a lot (including the 2 kids Clint fathered to another woman while with Sondra. Tragic figure).
John Ford over Clint anyday
@@anthonycaruso8443 Agreed, except for Unforgiven. Clints best western.
I Believe they both share the Iconic figure of american Cowboy. No Doubt.
HUGE John Wayne fan.
Always a John Wayne fan and I’ll be a John Wayne fan Forever.
Fact is, Marion was a racist creep as well as a mysoginist. As well, the tough guy war hero was all just an act. As in that is what actors do. They act. Marion...
Agreed 💯
donnie: I bet you think donal Drumpf is the real American President! LOL.
@@wesleypepple7525 You both support donal Drumpf! LOL!
@@stephencurry8552 yawn
He represented an era in this country. A time of patriotism above all. He said and did things that now would be totally outrageous. He was a good actor and much beloved. Leave it at that.
I can’t pick. For me both actors are iconic. I can’t get enough of either one.
thats my view. sad they didnt get along, they couldve made movies that could stilll be shown in theaters today.
Impressed that Frank Sinatra and his wife spent time with the DUKE when he was in the HOSPITAL at the end!
Just remember who flew on B-17s over Europe and who stayed in Hollywood making movies. I know Wayne had kids and medical problems but Gable flew several missions. He even was a Major when he resigned in 1947.
And we can't stand the hypocrisy of Wayne.
Can you imagine how great it would have been to see John Wayne and Clint Eastwood in a film or five together ? Westerns, cop movies, war movies. Mel Brooke originally wanted Richard Pryor to play Black Bart and John Wayne to play the Waco Kid in the 1974 western parody, Blazing Daddles. Instead, Brooks was able to get Cleavon Little and Gene Wilder to play those parts and Blazing Saddles turned out to be one of the greatest films of all time.
They couldn't stand each other
rumors and hearsay is most of this piece. It's like a video version of the National Enquirer.
The only movie Wayne acted in was True Grit, in which he performed well. Raised on a diet of John Wayne movies I was off him quickly.
I have heard of his genuine and kind personality and for that he has my respect. There will never be another like him, that is for sure.
I'm a huge fan of the Duke. Eastwood has some great movies too but 've watched the Duke since I was a kid riding my bike to the theater for a Saturday matinee featuring John Wayne. If I wasd lucky there'd be a double feature. :0)
I love that John Wayne backhanded the bodyguard. He was a big guy himself, and he didn't let people push him around.
I took the speaker saying He slept well....because the 4 Knocked Him Out
@@MichaelThorpeNJ Probably why Frank was at his side with the Cancer, Knew he was a man to be respected and relied on.
Say what you mean and do as you say.
I guess nobody talks to John Wayne that way either.
@@MichaelThorpeNJ Hahaha...yeah, I don't think so. Why would Frank's room go quiet if John had been knocked out?
if you believe that story you are even dumber than john wayne..who was one stupid man
Am I more of a John Wayne fan or a Clint Eastwood fan? That's easy. YES.
Marion Morrison refused to serve his country when America was fighting for her survival. Clark Gable flew combat missions in B-17s, Jimmy Stewart did as well. For all of John Wayne's bluster about patriotism and love of America, when Amarica needed him to suit up, he stayed on the bench.
there you have it wayne as complete a coward, as he was a phony.
My pop had me watch angel and the bad man, when i was 15. Ive been hooked on wayne ever since. Every character he portrays, is the badass hero, cant help but love the characters he has played. Am actually proud to say my daughter knows some of his stuff, impressed her history teacher by knowing who he even was, extra proud, she knows because of me😂
John...#1. John and Clint kind of patched things up, before he passed, so I've read.
Eastwood and Wayne were totally different actors, and in some ways, eras. I like them both, Wayne's movies seemed more "wholesome" but Eastwood had more potential as an actor. His portrayal in Grand Torino was amazing.
Respect to Both.!!!
Agreed. Wayne didnt like ambiguous chracters, but that was the Hollywood storytelling he came up with. Eastwood didnt mind. That was part of John Wayne's dissatisfaction with Eastwood. Great actors both, and fun to watch. I miss John Wayne's presence and will feel the same when Clint is gone. Sad to think about but we have some damn fine movies to reflect on!
Clint Eastwood's character in "Grand Torino," Walt Kowalski is one of my very favorite that he portrayed. Even still Kowalski was a very flawed man and hard to like. As always Clint played the Anti-Hero with Walt, who by the end of the movie had not only redeemed himself but was "A Great American Hero" so that you left the theater being in total awe of him!
And his variety of movie roles! Honky-tonk Man, Any which way but Loose, Beguiled, Bridges of Madison County, Bronco Billy, Clint the director is drawn to the story. Clint has his own production company (Malpaso), Clint the actor is So Much More than his western movies.
Wayne is forever thought of as a cowboy. I think he was great in Sands of Iwo Jima to give him his due
Read my comments!
Clint Eastwood, Steven Spielberg, Clark Gable, Frank Sinatra: that makes four! Who's the fifth???
The Draft Dodger 😂
Been a fan of both actors; Wayne & Eastwood since my early days watching Rawhide weekly and seeing Rio Bravo in a theater. Wayne made more classics than any other actor I know of, but most of Eastwoods films are good. The Good, Bad and Ugly, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Unforgiven and Dirty Harry are also modern classics. But Wayne still comes out on top: She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Red River, The Quiet Man, Stagecoach, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, True Grit, The Searchers, Hondo & The Shootist. Not to mention his first film roll as the lead actor, The Big Trail, which in itself is a classic. And there are more, but why go on as both Clint Eastwood and John Wayne are American icons.
still a hard decision for me but growing up in the 70s and 80s i guess its natural to like eastwood
Clark Gable was the "king" of Hollywood. When he died they wanted John Wayne to take the title. John Wayne said, "I'll stay the Duke."
Another bullshit Fairytale about that famous unknown person called "They"!!! At least that's what THEY told Me!!!
id say that was a good decision
gable was the real hero than wayne
@@user-wr9xj7fr2d Yes Gable served in WWII and did not have to. Wayne just a coward
@@user-wr9xj7fr2dJames Stewart was also a war hero.
Some times writers do not do the full diligence in story telling. Case in point Marion M. Morrison, "John Wayne" did not answer to John. Those who know, knew he went by Duke, which is a nice story in it self. John Wayne was the character and name created for him when he starred in his first big budget film "The Big Trail", another interesting story. His autographs were John Wayne with a special way to make the "o", but all his legal papers were signed as Marion Michael Morrison.
Jon Wayne--will we ever see another like him?? A star from the early 1930's, and then one of the biggest stars ever, and a big DRINKER, who hasn't gotten a few drinks under their belts and then said something rude or off color? And Wayne was such a star that it could easily be said he didn't care who he pissed-off anyway--he still got paid. He was a great character!
John Wayne. By far.
These Millennial re-write history folks ...Always gotta dump on John Wayne!
I agree I don't like all this made up crap about Wayne
@@donjohn2695 ...not to mention that Director John Ford AND primarily John Wayne ALWAYS took care of the neighboring INDIANS that were involved in ANY Western movies. He never gets ANY praise for the GOOD he did without seeking ANY praise from strangers. Same for Frank Sinatra.
@@stuartkidney3257 Duke and Ford were one of the first film makers to use real Native Americans instead of White men in makeup.
@@KeithSpinneyMusic exactly...Wayne embraced the hispanic community and the indian community throughout his adult life. His last wife, Pilar in particular was a stout woman who enabled him to truly succeed in acting. John had a terrific relationship with multiple cultures thru his career, truly a wonderful example for ANYONE to follow or investigate imo.
Even the commentators said Wayne and Sinatra made up. Hardly his most hated celebrity
GodBLESS OUR JOHN WAYNE
No doubt in my mind, I’m a total John Wayne fan!!
No matter what film John Wayne starred in he was always John Wayne.
Oh hell yeah, that's what made his movies good.
Couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag.
@@marissa9347 One Academy Award for Best Actor and another nomination for Best Actor.
@@marissa9347 He was only given roles that mirrored his persona and played them all the same. Terrible actor.
@@BigScud1nd what the fuck did they know?
I'll take a Duke movie over anyone else's anyday, that's why I have collected so many of his
I always liked John Wayne's movie I like watching his movies he made the Green Berets that was a good one and the Western shows I enjoy them
" I don't hate John Wayne because he is a fascist. I hate him because he talks like a baby." This is what Orson Welles had to say about John Wayne.😅
Didn't know babys could talk. That's a new one.
And that statement says a lot about Orson Welles…
Who's how do you spell it. orson welles.
My brother still watch John Wayne because he got some of John Wayne dvd and may god bless his family and friends and fans
I've seen clips of John Wayne on interview shows.
He had a sense of humor and didn't take himself too seriously.
I remember watching an interview and someone mocked his fake hair. John took offense and replied that it wasn’t fake hair but real hair. He said it wasn’t his but it was real hair.
@@jimarcher5255
hahaha
John Wayne was a hateful man.
He would almost always accept an invitation to shows where he could play himself. But the most surprising to me was wearing a bunny costume on Laugh In
John Wayne's delusional perception of the Wild West would have been shattered if he had actually lived in those times.
Thank you for sharing the story between Frank Sinatra and John Wayne.
Wayne was popular in the thirties and forties first, he was one of the first movie cowboys, did his own riding and stunts, Clint came on in the fifties. Wayne made scores of patriotic movies during ww 2, no you can't compare these men. Both special in their own way things changed a lot from the thirties to the fifties.
Wayne was a B actor working 'poverty row' studios. in the thirties. The fifties and sixties were his best decades. Eastwood was a bit player in movies until 1965. Up until then his only success was as a second-billed cowboy on Rawhide, which was but one of dozens of TV westerns. Their stardom periods over-lapped in the late-sixties to wayne's death.
Yep that's right Wayne made movies during WW 2
Did not serve.
John Wayne was and always will be one of my favorites along with Jimmy Stewart.
Stewart was a combat veteran of WWII Wayne just a COWARD. Never served a day
@@jhonyermowtf does that have to do with his acting? Damn You're salty .
@@jhonyermoyou need to do your research. John Wayne was a conscientious objector, true..but he was also refused by the military citing he was equivalent to a national treasure. In other words he could be a target by the enemy to bring down American morale. It’s an issue that JW didn’t publicize or brag about.
I lost all respect for him when he tried to physically stop a Native American woman from speaking at the Oscars when Brando willingly ceded his speech time to her, and even then she was only allowed a minute or two.
It's not his award, it's not his event, and it wasn't his right to shut someone up because he said so. My understanding is that he had to be physically restrained from attacking her to that end. Can't say he was a coward, but he was a bigot and a Karen, in that regard. I have no opinion about her message, but that doesn't matter when it comes to assholes and censors. That's also something he didn't brag about or publicize, but his beef with Gable's criticisms confirms his lack of concern for those he looked down on.
Oh, my director treated "unimportant" poorly while filming? Don't you dare criticize the director who treated them poorly, he's my friend! Shut up, Gable! Zero compassion, and I lean Right, if anything. I would never be associated with him, and he's a stain on what my Party was, before they stained themselves too much to bear. Fuck his memory, tell the facts.
@@bookman7409 Oh God, not that fake news story again. You obviously lost all your brains too.
John Wayne is remembered by many Americans as the tough all American, straight talking, cigarette smokin’, whiskey drinkin’ hero who loved his country and the service men. Of course reality is he dodged the ww2 draft after not enlisting and became a big star because his competition were all off in Europe or the Pacific.
I reserve the right to like both of these gentlemen. They have given me many, many hours of enjoyment.
I like both of them. They have many great movies and it's hard to say I like one more than the other.
Why do you have to pick one over the other? They are both phenomenal actors whose values and choices in movie roles were different, that's all!! Love them both!
We don't, this guy exaggerated the Wayne-Eastwood "feud" to get attention. Click bait.
"actors" u say, actors. Neither of them had an ounce of acting talent in their veins.
WTF …..neither of them could act to save their lives. They could only play cowboys who didn’t talk much….l loved to have seen either of them playing say Abe Lincoln or Grant, then you,d see that they just cannot act.
I don’t they are both absolutely wooden as actors…….the man with no dialogue and the man with ladies underwear hahaha. You yanks have got to stop believing Hollywood fantasies while your country rots from within.
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John Wayne was right every time. I'd side with him because of his character and integrity. And man did he love America. Every inch of her.
Clint Eastwood fan.... But, I appreciate people and actors like the Duke. So you'll find me watching BOTH Clint Eastwood AND John Wayne movies. I like them both! I agree with John Wayne's opinion about ethics about movies. After John Wayne passed away..... little by little society has gotten worst.
We have our heros.
Clint Walker was another one of my heroes, too.
John Wayne is my favorite actor. He had his faults but so does everyone else.
In retrospect what we see as faults today were virtues in their times.
Who knows what we're going to think in the future but people like John will be useful characters to reflect on for insightful perspectives of our changing culture.
Heroes are being undermined in modern story telling but these things will no doubt turn around as the consequences of the modern zeitgeist manefests over time.
Hero's will no doubt be elevated again at some point and both John Wayne and Clint Eastwood deserve their time in the sun. I'm greatful to both of them for their art...
We've all done and said stupid things but when you hear the audio of what JW thought of "the selfish red man" it gets creepy. Doesn't mean I'm tossing out my DVD True Grit but "it was a different time" argument doesn't hold up.
I've got lots of extra faults, anybody need a few extra on their plate? I'm giving the away.😂
@@dicksonfranssen The American Indians were far from saintly. They were brutal savages and owned slaves, including black ones. Not all of us believe revisionist history like "Dances With Wolves", which drew ridicule even from real Indians.
@@dicksonfranssen the red man( which I share some bloodline with) should be grateful that the western europeans got to America before the Asians did, or it would've been a real extinction event.
Different styles. I could listen to John Wayne's voice all day long. He portrayed an all-American hero. Clint Eastwood had a rough harsh mean look and was rather serious, a man that would even the score. If you enjoyed Westerns that had Indians, Wagon Trains, Old West, Cavalry, rescuing the lady, and saving the day, it was definitely John Wayne. Now, Clint Eastwood played more like a gunslinger and could survive anything, track you down like a detective, and bring justice. Another difference is the use of slang, profanity, or foul language. Wayne kept it clean. Eastwood was a bit more assertive or implied. Both made great movies. Wayne may have made a few more movies. War movies what can you say, both are outstanding in their own way. A shame Wayne died too soon in 1979 age of 72. Eastwood went on to become a director and produced a couple award-winning movies. Show business can be hectic and to have a long career is just challenging. The bottom line is how the public views you and if able to handle life being in the public eye. Not sure why, but if I had to pick the type of character I wanted to be like in a movie would be John Wayne, maybe because I watched many of his movies first or was it the generational gap.
John Wayne had over 200 films
Age 72 isn't exactly young. Erroll Flynn died at age 50, but he was beset by severe health problems all his life.
Whenever there is a john wayne film on TCM, I turn to another channel.
@@johnlegg8559 ...and he got killed on some of them!
John Wayne played a deep-sea diver in Reap the Wild Wind (1942), and died saving the other diver!
@@smtpgirl- So do I.
Wayne when I was a kid. Eastwood as I got older. But both hold a special place in my heart.
I could never quite understand how John Wayne became the symbol of American masculinity and the tough guy, yet carefully avoided any kind of direct involvement in the military services he so often represented in film.
@colddiesel... That was by design, the studios made sure that his pictures had USA patriotism themes, so his audience would probably forget his skipping military service. The biggest flag waver on the silver screen!
Because he was a movie star and he played a role. How hard is that to understand? Is is absurd to believe because an actor plays a role very well, and becomes successful in that role means that is who they are in real life. Bryan Cranston was great in Breaking Bad, but that is not who he is. Clint Eastwood is mean and tough in his movies, but in real life he is very shy, laid back, and sensitive. The complete opposite of what he portrays.
From what I read once, John Ford made sure the “Duke” didn’t go to war.
Absolutely a draft dodger
Lol. What a stupid remark .. you have to drafted first before you can dodge it . Wayne was never drafted
I'm a massive John Wayne Fan Because he's my favorite actor and Favorite Cowboy
Mr Wayne. The Duke will remain part of this country as long as I live and breath.
I'll never forget the day we met John Wayne.
My wife's friend who lives 500 miles to the west of us and who we just happened to be visiting owned a mountain goat that was tethered to a post in the middle of her back yard. This goat had free reign of all the grass in the yard and would walk in a clockwise circle all day eating the grass but at the end of the day the goat had to be walked anticlockwise to free it up, goats really are stupid.
Anyways, this goat was so stupid it had strangled itself on the rope and the rope had opened up a wound on its neck so we put it in the pickup and rushed it to the vet but unfortunately the town vet was closed due to a rabid dog was running wild inside and the area had been sectioned off by the Police, so we headed for the farmers vet who lived in the next town just 40 miles south.
When we arrived we were told he was in the barn at the back , so we headed round the back and there the vet was vetting a sick goat and we were amazed that when both goats eyes met they fell in love that day and now they are married and have three lovely kids.
You may ask, what has this got to do with John Wayne, well nothing really, except the vet was called John Vane and this sounded like John Wayne and you folks like a long story.
One of the things I know about him was he loved to play war heros but was ever brave enough to offer to serve. He let others suffer and die on his behalf. People love the myth he and others created around him but that fiction wasn’t really him
No one ever claimed that fiction was really him. John Wayne was a movie star, and he played a specific type of role as did most actors of that time. He never pretended to be cowboy in real life or a soldier, he was just himself in all interviews and appearances outside of his acting. People just love to punch him because they hate his politics. That is the only reason. Wayne did try to join the naval academy when he was younger and was rejected and his life took a different direction.
Some people may dislike him because of his politics but a lot of people truly despise him because he was a hypocrite. He was very critical of people that avoided the Vietnam war but he never had the guts to serve himself. Many actors placed themselves in harms way during his time but he never had the guts to and the idea he “tried” is nonsense
You are talking about a guy that NEVER tried to enlist but DID apply and get a deferment when many of his contemporaries went out to serve.
@@dansardo5274 So what? I'm not going to justify whatever decision he made, but I'm not going to villianize him for it either.
@@dansardo5274 People dislike him because of his politics.....period. He's an easy punching bag because of his not serving in WWII, so there you go. He did indeed apply to the naval academy when he was young, that's not nonsense. He did register for the draft, hardly the action of someone trying to dodge it. He was right at the cut off age when WWII began. Later during the war it was Republic Studios that tried to get him deferred. Not to mention Wayne would probably not have passed the physical. He suffered many injuries in college causing him to lose his football scholarship and one of the reasons he fell into acting. The injuries, plus his age, probably would have prevented him from serving no matter what.
John Wayne, actor comes from a different generation. When you respected your elders, you were polite, around women you were a gentleman, and you were silent on matters not concerning you. Simple maybe but, that was John Wayne.
That's why every boy should watch John Wayne movies with his dad.
He was none of those things. He was racist, was anti New Deal, didn't serve in ANY branch of the military other than in a film crew, was rude to co-workers who didn't "earn his respect" by indulging in his preferred vices, and often spoke about things he understood virtually NOTHING about. Why don't you look at all the cigarette ads he did? His aggressive foreign policies which encouraged nuclear testing are probably what ultimately doomed him with cancer shooting "The Conquerer" where he plays of all people, Genghis Khan. Yeah. It bombed and he got a nice case of fallout from it.
John Wayne is not an ideal. He's a fossil of a bygone age. You can look at him and admire him for what he was in his time, but that time has passed.
Yes, quiet resolution, action in the face of dangerous odds, manners and countenance all matter. But those aren't really the qualities that are valued today, are they? Greed, deception, taking all you can get your hands on, getting what YOU want (Remember when the Reagan era was referred to as the "ME" era? I do.) taking what you can, while you can are more valuable commodities than loyalty, devotion or service.
Reagan broke the social contract between the obligation employers and employees. He created the McJob. A position that doesn't pay enough to live on. If every contract worker in the country were paid for their labor and forced to provide benefits to them, a LOT of people would be able to breath easier.
A gentleman around women??? He cheated on his wife repeatedly.
I prefer Wayne and his films over the Clint spaghetti films and the violent, mindless ones.
Well, he did shoot Liberty Valence from a safe distance, which is sorta cowardly in old west terms.
The movie "1941" came out in the era when I went to movies fairly regularly. I never saw it, because it seemed silly and even stupid. Wayne was right to pass on that movie.
It was a drug-addled POS.
That was pretty ballsy of Frank Sinatra's body guards thinking the could push John Wayne around. I guess they found out the hard way they couldn't! 🤣🤣🤣
All five people have grown in my eyes. Was never a John Wayne fan as a human being. He was a racist but nevertheless was a great actor up to a point.
Style is something that comes easy for some. Class, now that's another story.
I appreciate and love them both!
My mom hated John Wayne. She said when he would visit troops they would turn their backs on him for ducking military service.
Two outstanding stars and patriotic Americans. I tend to believe they would have a lot in common.