10:29 I love that idea to recycle bottles to feed the cats. I don't think that idea would go so well in Western countries where they have kill shelters - easy way. I love how in Eastern Europe and Turkey cats are part of society just like in Ancient Egypt they worshipped them (but today not so sure).
The Catholics in Kotor and Boka were also the Serbs. Serbian orthodox churches are scattered all over Boka Kotorska, every village has an old one. Old Kotor itself is a small town, there was no need for more than two churches.
In 9:00 that giant flag in the center of city is Serbian flag 🇷🇸 Also Yugoslavia was founded in 1929 by Serbian king Alexander. Tito took the power in 1945
I am telling you as someone visiting Budva, and Montenegro in general, for the first time. There is no doubt that Kotor old town is more impressive, but Budva is also extremely beautiful, and what gives it special charm is that the Old City of Budva has its own beach. But you should hurry and visit it before it gets extremely crowded. Budva is like 20 minutes ride from Kotor@@GizmoAndCompany
Im surprised the tour guide didnt tell you something about the history of Montenegro, because the history of Montenegro is much longer than just the yugoslavia part, all the battles that people of Montenegro had with ottoman empire, fighting for freedom, how they formed their country and lived in those inaccessible rocky steep mountains, they were also really tall and tough, and they were called mountain people, and montenegrin people are really tall today too, you can google it, it is the tallest country in the world, or second tallest, depending on which article youre reading, anyways, Montenegro even had its own king in late 19th and early 20th century. Montenegro is a christian orthodox country by a huge majority, close to 80%, but as you said very well i the video, Kotor has been occupied and run by venician empire, and thats why most od the churches in Kotor are catholic, but theres like 2-3% catholic people in Montenegro, and about 15% muslim, because of the influence and oppression of ottomans and fighting against ottoman empire for hundreds of years. Another interesting fact is that Kotor was once conquered by Napoleon, and that clock tower you see when you walk in through the main gate was actually gifted to the city of Kotor by Napoleon himself. And yeah the cats are so friendly and usually they dont even notice people passing🤣. Kotor is definitely a very comfortable place for cats, and its very well known for that too. Loving the content guys really, amazing stuff, keep it up.
And one more thing about Tito and yugoslavia, He came in to power and established a communist yugoslavia, after the world war II and jt was all after so much bloodshed and so many warcrimes commited by the communist side, his side, but also the other sides. So yugoslavia was created on so much bloodshed, And yes its true people had some benefits, and were pretty secure, didnt have to worry about what theyll eat the next day, and housing also, you would get an apartment from the government usually, if youve worked long enough. But of course it wasn’t all perfect, its communism, for example you couldnt drive your car every day, it was decided which license plates can drive on which days, and you had problems of people not wanting to work, because “everyone was the same” and “everything was everybodies” so some people didnt want to work. But of course you still had people in power who had much more than normal people so it wasnt all true that everybody is the same. Also as you said the concentration camps for people that spoke against Tito and yugoslavia did exist, and the thing is you could literally get reported by your neighbor that he heard you speaking against tito, and just like that the next day, they would take you to the concentration camp, which was pretty insane, also nobody was able to practice any religion, and orthodoxy was banned, and all the religions as a matter of fact. Slavas that you mentioned were banned too. So yea, yugoslavia did have some good sides and it does kinda sound utopic, and it was trying to be, because that was their philosophy, the philosophy of communism, everybody is equal, and that type of stuff, but it had its problems, and some big ones.
@@BelgradeArchWhy would i need to mention serb and serbian when im talking about the country of montenegro and its history, and kotors history, if it means something to you, i consider myself a serb and so many people in montenegro do too, but serbian isnt necessarily connected to the country of serbia, montenegrin serbs like myself, mostly have no personal connection to the country of serbia. But i dobt know why i would need to mention being serbian and serbs everywhere, there was literally no need for me to mention that, i wasnt talking about that, what do you want me to do, just throw in the word serbian randomly once or twice in a sentence? why the fuck would i mention it if i am not talking about a subject that has something to do with it
There's also Sveti Stefan, a little peninsula near Budva, UNESCO stuff. I just now checked before posting this, and the entrance is 25 Euros per person. I advise you to see the online photos and ask LOCALS on whether it is 1. open and 2. worthwhile a visit (keep in mind that what is written online might not represent the situation right now.
Novi Sad is Serbian city, and it's Serbian Orthodox Christian. The whole Serbia, including northern Serbia is Orthodox Christian.These people simply didn't study history very well.
Just for your information 99% of people there dont like name "Montenegro" because its stupid italian colonial name. Crna Gora(Black mountain) is real name. And must mention like someone who is from North of Crna Gora that more than 70% of people there consider themselves Serbs. This Slava custom you talk about is pure ans only Serbian thing. All the best.
@@JustineTX375 Well people on the "West" for long time are on lets say bad influence so I have understanding,plus I know she did not mean nothing bad 😉
It's not true that 70% of people in the north consider themselves Serbs... Maybe im Pljevlja, Plužine, don't know where else. But it's true that a lot of them identify as Serbs nowadays (and before Yugoslav period even more I guess), many more then in the south. Slava is especially celebrated among Serbs, but it is also practiced by Gorans and some Albanians...
@@withoutshadowww Gorans are albanized Serbs if you dont know! And if someone who call himself albanian celebrate Slava he is also Serb who was albanized during Enver Hodža dictator-maoist rule!Because none in whole world except Serbs have Slava END! And 80% of people in Crna Gora is pure Serbs,what communist did after WW2 with inventing "montenegrins" is other story...
@@tiosavdarivalic3662The Gorans are not albanised Serbs, but the Serbs who changed their religious denomination for muslim last. They consider themselves to be Serbs.
You are wrong about Budva, check double times when thinking going there nice beaches, old town is smaller but very nice and preserved, beautifull surrounding, beach walk path 7-12km long all along to Kamenovo beach and already said in previous videos comment there is also near by Sveti Stefan town and royal palace park which possibly is most beautifull place in montenegro. There is also 12th century monastery Praskvica up above the hill few hundreds of meters from Saint Stefan. By the way whole coast is ruined by investors not only Budva, in Kotor is least visible maybe because least interest of mass summer swimming and beach tourism. Also Budva Riviera has the most beautifull beaches in montenegro,
@@JustineTX375 i doubt its that, it can also depend on who led them and showing them arround. They are atheists already said in belgrade videos, maybe attached to catholic/protestant aestetics as canadians but thats all. They just should meet right people for tours and reading commends and recomendations.
We only summarized what we heard from the tour, we would still like to visit Budva to form our own opinion. I'm sure it's lovely there, but it's also interesting to learn the significance of UNESCO protecting Kotor! :)
Cats in this city have better meals than people in some areas of planet😮 Also don't worry about the shirt😅 , i also overpaid the shirt one time in that country, but its good quality
-Facts about Montenegro This is why a lot of former Yugoslavs have nostalgic feelings about the communist days. They all had paid for holidays. Many spent those holidays on the Adriatic coast. -Yugoslavs are big nudists… almost as much as Germans. This is well before other parts of Europe (Spain/France) had it. Many people in the former Yugoslavia said Dalamatians & Montenegrins were very laid back (or lazy). As an example I had a cousin (Canadian) who worked at the American Embassy in Belgrade. She stayed at a good hotel on the coast in Montenegro. Every day she asked the waiter for a green salad in her hotel. Every day the waiter brought her a tomato salad. After a week she finally put her foot down and said to the waiter… why can’t you bring me a green salad, like I asked for? She said the waiter looked at her… then her salad, then her again and said “eat it and be happy!” She said to me privately she couldn’t stop laughing. She said Montenegrins have this very laid back attitude towards life and she just had to laugh at this reply. She said it summed-up all that it was to be a citizen of Montenegro. -I have an old film reel from 1967… where I was holding my grandmother’s hand in Sveti Stefan, walking the street of this historic sea side town. It looks very much like Le Mont-Saint-Michel, in Normandy France. A town connected to the mainland by a thin strip of a land bridge to a historic old town surrounded by the sea. It’s a must-see! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveti_Stefan
Always has been? Not true for the first period after the 11th century Christian schism, if we are talking about southern Montenegro. Predominantly Orthodox and for most of its history? Absolutely.
I'm Protestant and in some ways the style of Eastern Orthodox reminds me of Catholicism but probably just because we Protestants don't invest as much into the Saints. I really want to see the St Sava church.
A historical Serbian territory. That's a Serbian flag in your video. The majority of churches and historical houses are Serbian. I'm a foreigner too, but I know history very well. And no, the people didn't support Tito's communist regime. There was no democracy in Yugoslavia. No free elections! You are misinterpreting the history. Slava is exclusively Serbian tradition! Slava is UNESCO list element of culture and heredity of Serbia.
I like your channel but there are things you said in this video that are not true at all. First of all, the language spoken in Kotor is nothing like Italian.. It's pure Serbian or Serbo-Croatian, the same language spoken in Belgrade, for example with a different dialect. Second of all,, Kotor is not mainly Catholic, it's Orthodox just like the rest of Montenegro with a certain number of Catholics of course. Then, there were no concentration camps in Yugoslavia. Who told you that? There was a prison island for political opponents of Tito and supporters of the USSR and Soviets... And Budva is nice and has it's old city just like Kotor..but it's not Catholic and maybe that's why you refuse to visit it but it's your loss!
1. its true that catholics lived in old town during venetians rule, but orthodox majoritu lived all arround. So basicaly every hill arround has an old orthodox church or many monastires. 2. there are for sure a lot of italianisms in local language and accent definitely is influenced by italian like in whole dalmatia, but still its fully serbian language. 3. true, they heard about Goli Otok but they understood literally as conc.camp.
It says in Wikipedia: Until the 19th century the main language of Kotor was Italian.[20] During the 19th century, the use of Italian began to decline in favour of Serbian. They may have some Italian words, but they are not talking about all of Montenegro. In any case, Serbian is a beautiful and rich language :)
@@frostflower5555 the "main language of Kotor" could mean official or dominant alongside of Serbian (more acurately would be from 15th to 19th century). The Italian influence on the language is still negligible.
8:32 Standing there and mentioning Roman Influences over the years but not mentioning influences and Empires from the people that live now there is kind of disrespectful.
OMG the Cat Garden! And the little kitten you had! 🥰🐈 love it!!
10:29 I love that idea to recycle bottles to feed the cats. I don't think that idea would go so well in Western countries where they have kill shelters - easy way. I love how in Eastern Europe and Turkey cats are part of society just like in Ancient Egypt they worshipped them (but today not so sure).
You can never have enough clean shirts. A plain shirt goes with everything.
The Catholics in Kotor and Boka were also the Serbs.
Serbian orthodox churches are scattered all over Boka Kotorska, every village has an old one.
Old Kotor itself is a small town, there was no need for more than two churches.
"Only two orthodox churches" is a weird way to put it, that is more per inhabitant than most other predominantly orthodox towns.
Don't take Gizmo to cat park . He may want to stay there forever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In 9:00 that giant flag in the center of city is Serbian flag 🇷🇸
Also Yugoslavia was founded in 1929 by Serbian king Alexander.
Tito took the power in 1945
Well, she deliberately didn't mention it was Serbian flag which she was well aware of . .but she said Kotor was '' Catholic''!
The whole Adriatic coastline from Slovenia to Montenegro has a sensitive history. lol
Budva is very well worth visiting! And taking the walk to the St. Stefan along the seaside too.
We've heard conflicting points of view, but I guess the only way to form an opinion would be to visit and see for ourselves! :)
I am telling you as someone visiting Budva, and Montenegro in general, for the first time. There is no doubt that Kotor old town is more impressive, but Budva is also extremely beautiful, and what gives it special charm is that the Old City of Budva has its own beach. But you should hurry and visit it before it gets extremely crowded. Budva is like 20 minutes ride from Kotor@@GizmoAndCompany
Im surprised the tour guide didnt tell you something about the history of Montenegro, because the history of Montenegro is much longer than just the yugoslavia part, all the battles that people of Montenegro had with ottoman empire, fighting for freedom, how they formed their country and lived in those inaccessible rocky steep mountains, they were also really tall and tough, and they were called mountain people, and montenegrin people are really tall today too, you can google it, it is the tallest country in the world, or second tallest, depending on which article youre reading, anyways, Montenegro even had its own king in late 19th and early 20th century. Montenegro is a christian orthodox country by a huge majority, close to 80%, but as you said very well i the video, Kotor has been occupied and run by venician empire, and thats why most od the churches in Kotor are catholic, but theres like 2-3% catholic people in Montenegro, and about 15% muslim, because of the influence and oppression of ottomans and fighting against ottoman empire for hundreds of years. Another interesting fact is that Kotor was once conquered by Napoleon, and that clock tower you see when you walk in through the main gate was actually gifted to the city of Kotor by Napoleon himself. And yeah the cats are so friendly and usually they dont even notice people passing🤣. Kotor is definitely a very comfortable place for cats, and its very well known for that too. Loving the content guys really, amazing stuff, keep it up.
And one more thing about Tito and yugoslavia, He came in to power and established a communist yugoslavia, after the world war II and jt was all after so much bloodshed and so many warcrimes commited by the communist side, his side, but also the other sides. So yugoslavia was created on so much bloodshed, And yes its true people had some benefits, and were pretty secure, didnt have to worry about what theyll eat the next day, and housing also, you would get an apartment from the government usually, if youve worked long enough. But of course it wasn’t all perfect, its communism, for example you couldnt drive your car every day, it was decided which license plates can drive on which days, and you had problems of people not wanting to work, because “everyone was the same” and “everything was everybodies” so some people didnt want to work. But of course you still had people in power who had much more than normal people so it wasnt all true that everybody is the same. Also as you said the concentration camps for people that spoke against Tito and yugoslavia did exist, and the thing is you could literally get reported by your neighbor that he heard you speaking against tito, and just like that the next day, they would take you to the concentration camp, which was pretty insane, also nobody was able to practice any religion, and orthodoxy was banned, and all the religions as a matter of fact. Slavas that you mentioned were banned too. So yea, yugoslavia did have some good sides and it does kinda sound utopic, and it was trying to be, because that was their philosophy, the philosophy of communism, everybody is equal, and that type of stuff, but it had its problems, and some big ones.
Congrats! You wrote so much and were able not to mention Serb/Serbian even once. Which is so telling.
@@BelgradeArch What? what does that mean, is this supposed to be sarcastic or what, how did you connect this to anything i said, please explain lmao
@@BelgradeArchWhy would i need to mention serb and serbian when im talking about the country of montenegro and its history, and kotors history, if it means something to you, i consider myself a serb and so many people in montenegro do too, but serbian isnt necessarily connected to the country of serbia, montenegrin serbs like myself, mostly have no personal connection to the country of serbia. But i dobt know why i would need to mention being serbian and serbs everywhere, there was literally no need for me to mention that, i wasnt talking about that, what do you want me to do, just throw in the word serbian randomly once or twice in a sentence? why the fuck would i mention it if i am not talking about a subject that has something to do with it
Budva is beautiful but it's more like party city,maybe even more expansive then Kotor
Yes and it's more Orthodox which is not so appealing to them, I guess. They said that Novi Sad was more Catholic which is not true at all.
There's also Sveti Stefan, a little peninsula near Budva, UNESCO stuff. I just now checked before posting this, and the entrance is 25 Euros per person. I advise you to see the online photos and ask LOCALS on whether it is 1. open and 2. worthwhile a visit (keep in mind that what is written online might not represent the situation right now.
Budva has Stari Grad too.. and it's beautiful as well. ..
Novi Sad is Serbian city, and it's Serbian Orthodox Christian. The whole Serbia, including northern Serbia is Orthodox Christian.These people simply didn't study history very well.
Just for your information 99% of people there dont like name "Montenegro" because its stupid italian colonial name. Crna Gora(Black mountain) is real name. And must mention like someone who is from North of Crna Gora that more than 70% of people there consider themselves Serbs. This Slava custom you talk about is pure ans only Serbian thing. All the best.
She said Slava is silly or funny.. something like that ...
@@JustineTX375 Well people on the "West" for long time are on lets say bad influence so I have understanding,plus I know she did not mean nothing bad 😉
It's not true that 70% of people in the north consider themselves Serbs... Maybe im Pljevlja, Plužine, don't know where else. But it's true that a lot of them identify as Serbs nowadays (and before Yugoslav period even more I guess), many more then in the south.
Slava is especially celebrated among Serbs, but it is also practiced by Gorans and some Albanians...
@@withoutshadowww Gorans are albanized Serbs if you dont know! And if someone who call himself albanian celebrate Slava he is also Serb who was albanized during Enver Hodža dictator-maoist rule!Because none in whole world except Serbs have Slava END! And 80% of people in Crna Gora is pure Serbs,what communist did after WW2 with inventing "montenegrins" is other story...
@@tiosavdarivalic3662The Gorans are not albanised Serbs, but the Serbs who changed their religious denomination for muslim last. They consider themselves to be Serbs.
Dont forget Herceg Novi, guys! When you are already all three over there!
It's definitely on our list to visit, thanks for the recommendation!
You are wrong about Budva, check double times when thinking going there nice beaches, old town is smaller but very nice and preserved, beautifull surrounding, beach walk path 7-12km long all along to Kamenovo beach and already said in previous videos comment there is also near by Sveti Stefan town and royal palace park which possibly is most beautifull place in montenegro. There is also 12th century monastery Praskvica up above the hill few hundreds of meters from Saint Stefan. By the way whole coast is ruined by investors not only Budva, in Kotor is least visible maybe because least interest of mass summer swimming and beach tourism. Also Budva Riviera has the most beautifull beaches in montenegro,
They have no idea ... it's not Catholic and that's why they don't want to go there. I'm so disappointed in them ...
@@JustineTX375 i doubt its that, it can also depend on who led them and showing them arround. They are atheists already said in belgrade videos, maybe attached to catholic/protestant aestetics as canadians but thats all. They just should meet right people for tours and reading commends and recomendations.
We only summarized what we heard from the tour, we would still like to visit Budva to form our own opinion. I'm sure it's lovely there, but it's also interesting to learn the significance of UNESCO protecting Kotor! :)
Cats in this city have better meals than people in some areas of planet😮 Also don't worry about the shirt😅 , i also overpaid the shirt one time in that country, but its good quality
Cat paradise 😊
-Facts about Montenegro
This is why a lot of former Yugoslavs have nostalgic feelings about the communist days. They all had paid for holidays. Many spent those holidays on the Adriatic coast.
-Yugoslavs are big nudists… almost as much as Germans. This is well before other parts of Europe (Spain/France) had it.
Many people in the former Yugoslavia said Dalamatians & Montenegrins were very laid back (or lazy). As an example I had a cousin (Canadian) who worked at the American Embassy in Belgrade. She stayed at a good hotel on the coast in Montenegro. Every day she asked the waiter for a green salad in her hotel. Every day the waiter brought her a tomato salad. After a week she finally put her foot down and said to the waiter… why can’t you bring me a green salad, like I asked for? She said the waiter looked at her… then her salad, then her again and said “eat it and be happy!”
She said to me privately she couldn’t stop laughing. She said Montenegrins have this very laid back attitude towards life and she just had to laugh at this reply. She said it summed-up all that it was to be a citizen of Montenegro.
-I have an old film reel from 1967… where I was holding my grandmother’s hand in Sveti Stefan, walking the street of this historic sea side town.
It looks very much like Le Mont-Saint-Michel, in Normandy France. A town connected to the mainland by a thin strip of a land bridge to a historic old town surrounded by the sea. It’s a must-see!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveti_Stefan
We've definitely noticed the laid-back attitude here, and we love it!! Thanks for the info and recommendation!
Central to Byzantine Empire was its Orthodox Christianity, not Catholic, and Montenegro is and has predominantly always been an Orthodox Country,
Always has been? Not true for the first period after the 11th century Christian schism, if we are talking about southern Montenegro. Predominantly Orthodox and for most of its history? Absolutely.
I'm Protestant and in some ways the style of Eastern Orthodox reminds me of Catholicism but probably just because we Protestants don't invest as much into the Saints. I really want to see the St Sava church.
A historical Serbian territory. That's a Serbian flag in your video. The majority of churches and historical houses are Serbian. I'm a foreigner too, but I know history very well. And no, the people didn't support Tito's communist regime. There was no democracy in Yugoslavia. No free elections! You are misinterpreting the history. Slava is exclusively Serbian tradition! Slava is UNESCO list element of culture and heredity of Serbia.
I like your channel but there are things you said in this video that are not true at all. First of all, the language spoken in Kotor is nothing like Italian.. It's pure Serbian or Serbo-Croatian, the same language spoken in Belgrade, for example with a different dialect. Second of all,, Kotor is not mainly Catholic, it's Orthodox just like the rest of Montenegro with a certain number of Catholics of course. Then, there were no concentration camps in Yugoslavia. Who told you that? There was a prison island for political opponents of Tito and supporters of the USSR and Soviets... And Budva is nice and has it's old city just like Kotor..but it's not Catholic and maybe that's why you refuse to visit it but it's your loss!
1. its true that catholics lived in old town during venetians rule, but orthodox majoritu lived all arround. So basicaly every hill arround has an old orthodox church or many monastires.
2. there are for sure a lot of italianisms in local language and accent definitely is influenced by italian like in whole dalmatia, but still its fully serbian language.
3. true, they heard about Goli Otok but they understood literally as conc.camp.
They did not claim Kotor is mainly Catholic now, they said it used to be so long time ago.
Stickers on the drain pipes in a cultural heritage place ...
There is no Balkan language, it is Serbian with a number of italian borrowings.
The language is not a mix of "Balkan" and Italian, Italian influence is negligible.
It says in Wikipedia: Until the 19th century the main language of Kotor was Italian.[20] During the 19th century, the use of Italian began to decline in favour of Serbian. They may have some Italian words, but they are not talking about all of Montenegro. In any case, Serbian is a beautiful and rich language :)
@@frostflower5555 the "main language of Kotor" could mean official or dominant alongside of Serbian (more acurately would be from 15th to 19th century). The Italian influence on the language is still negligible.
Love your videos but some of your comments in this video are historically incorrect.
We tried our best to summarize what we learned on the tour, we are definitely not historians so please forgive us if we make a couple mistakes :)
8:32 Standing there and mentioning Roman Influences over the years but not mentioning influences and Empires from the people that live now there is kind of disrespectful.